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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu May 23 19:24:40 2013 205.141.66.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Sports
Question: Who is the Stanley Cup named for?
Answer: Frederick Arthur Stanley

Trivia Players: OldManFan, valMichael

Trivia Pucks: Maverick!



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Maverick says:
(Thu May 23 19:08:02 2013 98.209.65.200) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Paul Stanley of Kiss who not only wears one but also wears lacy nylon stockings.


Maverick


Hockey Night In Canada




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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 23 18:09:28 2013 98.192.33.109) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO,

Lincoln once asked, ~ If you call a dog's tail a leg, then how many legs does a dog have? ~

((Lincoln's answer: Four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg. *g*))



Shan,

The few times I've dealt with the IRS they have always been friendly and helpful. Go figure. *g* OTOH, I've rarely had a problem with anyone serving customers. I smile and say, 'sir' or 'ma'am'. I don't act impatience. And often, because someone else does act angry I come across as a ray of sunshine. *g*


WG



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KAM says:
(Thu May 23 16:04:42 2013 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Hello Again,

Christopher Marlowe: I admit--I'm probably not on Customer Service without being angry, but I always do my best to be reasonable.

KAM
Ty King Fan



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu May 23 16:00:30 2013 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
KAM I don't envy customer service having to deal with angry customers, reasonable or unreasonable.



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KAM says:
(Thu May 23 15:04:39 2013 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Hello again,

Shan: I always try to state my appreciation for customer service people, because they are the front-line in dealing with problems that really aren't of their making.

KAM
Ty King Fan



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OldManFan says:
(Thu May 23 14:34:58 2013 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO - "Although someone already under oath reagrding a matter where their own conduct isn't an issue can presumably still refuse to self-incriminate" - True, but she testified to her innocence. You cannot testify to your innocence and then refuse to answer questions on cross-examination.

OMF



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Shan says:
(Thu May 23 14:31:33 2013 120.146.156.136) [Edit/Delete]
For what it's worth (not much in
relation to this issue), all the IRS
employees I've dealt with over the
phone have been nothing short of
fantastic.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu May 23 14:26:32 2013 66.246.173.34) [Edit/Delete]
KAM OldManFan valMichael Well, I see the argument in this case; the actions of the RIS office involved are what's in question and she's testifying as a worker at that office so yes, she's stretechign the right.

Although someone already under oath reagrding a matter where their own conduct isn't an issue can presumably still refuse to self-incriminate



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OldManFan says:
(Thu May 23 14:09:40 2013 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl - Jean Paul Stanley, the first hockey goalie to wear one. Or possibly, Frederick Arthur Stanley, 16th Earl of Derby (one-time Governor-General of Canada).

OMF



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valMiichael says:
(Thu May 23 14:07:38 2013 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl Lord Stanley of Preston, Governor-General of Canada in 1890s. (it's said his cup was phenomenal! ;-)



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu May 23 14:03:31 2013 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Sports
Question: Who is the Stanley Cup named for?



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KAM says:
(Thu May 23 13:51:22 2013 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Hello Again,

OldManFan: Yes, Lerner wants it both ways. To give testimony proclaiming her innocence, and then not answering questions.

Yes, they have to be dismissed from their post if they refuse to be answerable to (the Representatives of) the People. While this may seem harsh, the other alternative is that government officials are NOT answerable to the people--which is totally unacceptable.

I REALLY hope that people pay attention to things like this, because this is a very core question in regards to living in a free society. I don't think it is good to shrug and listen to the "nothing to see here" attempt to dismiss.

KAM



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OldManFan says:
(Thu May 23 13:38:40 2013 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
KAM - I agree completely. However, Lois Lerner made one mistake yesterday and, by doing so, can be compelled to testify. She testified that she did nothing wrong, broke no laws or IRS regulations... and then she invoked her 5th amendment rights. The problem is, you can't invoke your 5th amendment rights once you've begun to testify. Had she made those statements on the courthouse steps or on her blog, no problem. But she did so under oath, in front of the committee.

That being said. Any federal employee invoking their 5th amendment rights during an official investigation should be dismissed.

OMF



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valMichael says:
(Thu May 23 13:15:19 2013 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu May 23 13:17:07 2013
Happy Birthday: 4paws, Adorable Hellspawn, Closet Buffyholic, Jeanie the Tortoise Fly, Mar, minimike, and willowkitten!

YAY Thoin!

ChristopherMarlowe
Sorry about missing the birthdays for yesterday. Things got a bit weird. :) ('nuff said)
You might want to post yesterday's birthdays as belated birthdays today.



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KAM says:
(Thu May 23 13:03:05 2013 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Good Morning Everyone,

YAY THOIN

Anyone Interested in what is going on with our (USA) Government and how that might impact your liberty.
Yesterday, IRS Employee Lois Lerner exercised her 5th Amendment rights opting not to answer Congress's questions regarding her actions in her government position.
Upon hearing this, I first didn't think much about it, because--well, people can do that.
But then I started thinking about what this really means. Essentially, it means that she is claiming the power to refuse oversight WITHIN the government.
Briefly--our government is supposed to have a variety of checks and balances--with the goal of preventing improper exercise of power with, ultimately--to protect the People.
Lerner's action directly prevents this from occurring, and thus creates an issue. The Congress--in this case the House of Representatives, the most direct Representative of the People in government are being prevented from getting answers about the actions of someone who has been accused of improperly wielding government power against the People (in this case certain groups of people).

That is not acceptable. Part of the Government cannot claim immunity from its REQUIREMENT to answer to (the Representatives of) the People. As such, while I do not believe someone can be forced to testify against themselves in any case, it does NOT mean that the People should tolerate ANY member of the government claiming to be immune to the People's (Representatives) scrutiny. If this IS tolerated, then it says that Government is NOT accountable to the People, which is of course entirely contrary to our Constitution and form of government.

So, in my view, Lerner (or anyone else seeking to avoid legitimate oversight via the People's Representatives) MUST resign their position within government. The alternative, again is that Government officials are not answerable to the People--who in this case are the alleged victims of the action in question by the person in question.

To summarize and put this more simply. The Constitution is not there to protect government from its citizens, but to protect its citizens from Government, and allowing this to stand is putting the power in the hands of government to do whatever it wants and not be answerable to legitimate oversight.

This same sort of thing has occurred with Attorney General Holder, in his refusal to provide certain information regarding the Fast and Furious Program. He is currently under a charge of contempt of Congress--the end result of his inaction (not a 5th Amendment claim)

I find this quite alarming and a growing trend--one that is very dangerous to liberty and the concept of a free society with government answerable to the People.

KAM



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu May 23 12:26:11 2013 66.246.173.34) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard In Maverick's defense, he was totally upfront baout excluding the Scooby section of "Anne" from his discussion. On the third hand, that *was* part of the ep. so the decision to have a caveat at all is questionable.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu May 23 12:11:07 2013 208.107.232.155) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Thursday, May 23rd 2013 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7) Birthdays!




4paws
Adorable Hellspawn
Closet Buffyholic
Jeanie the Tortoise Fly
Mar
minimike
willowkitten



Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
4paws, Adorable Hellspawn, Closet Buffyholic, Jeanie the Tortoise Fly, Mar, minimike, willowkitten!



Don't let the space bugs bite!Kaylee, 'Objects In Space'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu May 23 12:04:43 2013 208.107.232.155) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Thoin!!!

Happy CD Thursday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu May 23 11:45:12 2013 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for thoin!

yay thoin!



Happy CD Thursday!



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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 23 03:34:11 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu May 23 03:34:30 2013
Yay Fenric!




Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question


If there were a spinoff from Angel, what would it have been?

I'm not sure what, but imagine the characters would include Spike, Illyria, Lorne and possibly Faith. Given that death is not final in the buffyverse, then perhaps Wesley?

OTOH, the producers and writers would probably like to add some new characters to the mix.


Good Night to All

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 23 03:14:53 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
White Wings,

4 in the morning? Probably a better time for brooding. *g*


Christopher Marlowe,

I meant to note that in Life Serial the Nerds were used by the writers to push Buffy towards work at DoubleMeat Palace. So many fans complained that Buffy could do better than working at a fast-food place. I believe Joss and Marti wanted Buffy to be in a dark place and they probably saw fast food as a dark place. OTOH, Buffy was a smart cookie and fast-food would not have been her first choice. The writers needed to move her quickly past the better job choices and they used the Nerds as a way to explain why Buffy wasn't able to work those sort of jobs.

If the Nerds hadn't been messing with Buffy, then she'd have been working construction or doing a sitcom with Anya, "The Crazy Girls" about life in retail magick. *g*


WG



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white wings says:
(Thu May 23 02:51:57 2013 70.114.165.144) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Fenric!

wolfguard - I sometimes record the 4am showing of Buffy or Angel. They feel more alive that way.

lostinamerica - I had almost the same thing happen with the refrigerator! First it flooded all over the laminate in the kitchen and entryway, under the cabinets, and dampened the hardwood in the living room behind the refrigerator. The day it happened, I was planning to schedule the plumber to replace the frozen valve to the water line so that I could replace the refrigerator. That happened on an emergency basis, and I replaced the refrigerator. I ran fans over the floors and pried up some baseboard and reducers and got a shop vac to suck up stuff . The hardwood dried up pretty well, but I never seemed to run out of water under the laminate. I had some other plumbers out, and they checked for leaks in addition to a few other odds and ends, and found nothing. So I kept running the shop vacs. Finally I pulled the new refrigerator all the way out, and found that the new valve was leaking, but it was such a thin film of water that it was almost invisible. It turned out a gasket was missing. Now I'm dry, but water was under the vapor barrier, so it is probably mildewing quietly. The oak in the living room was an old-timey installation, solid wood glued directly to the foundation, so now that it's dry, it should be OK.

However, I had already spent my renovation budget replacing carpet in the bedrooms with tile downstairs (where a water heater and AC coils live) and hardwood upstairs, and replacing the unusable master tub and shower. I knew about the master bath going in, although it got done more expensively and more satisfactorily than I'd planned. So the rest of my funds had to be spent renovating my old town house, which had had little improvement inside in the 34 years I'd lived there. At least I'd had it resided a few years before. I was persuaded into a high-end (appearing) renovation that involved remediating aluminum wiring, new doors, new cabinets, scraping popcorn, granite counters everywhere, painting, a travertine master shower, and a new roof. Also new glass in a lot of the windows. But I got really lucky. The location was really good, and there was low inventory in that price range, and a couple who had lost out in some bidding wars made me an offer I couldn't refuse, well over asking price.

Now I'm planning to put tile where the laminate was. It's a wood look tile that will make a nice transition between the new hardwood on the stairs and the old hardwood in the living room. And it will be waterproof. The contractor showed me the granite in his own house, and I kept stroking it lovingly, so I think I'll have the same thing.

I used to have gas, but I grew up with electric ranges, so I thought I'd tolerate the ceramic radiant cooktop easily. Wrong. It doesn't heat up that fast, and the first thing I did was boil over a pot of stock, so I learned about cleaning it. The downdraft runs, but it doesn't seem to affect steam rising to the ceiling. And after a little studying, it turns out that ceramic tops don't do well if you cook above boiling water temperatures, as you would with canning and candy. I don't can, but I make candy from time to time. Also hot sugar apparently pits the glass, if that's all the damage that it does. I'm going with induction. I've been trying a single portable induction burner with some new pots, and a metal disc to heat old pots, and I really like it. It heats quickly and cools quickly. I've ordered a single burner with an electric coil for candy making.

Now I just need to get the contractor, who is desperately trying to finish work for a 93 year old lady whose husband was just taken to the hospital. She needs her renovations sooner than I will, and it gives me more time to brood. And work on curtains. I don't actually like hemming curtains.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 23 02:37:18 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

It's also hard to write dialogue for one. Also, Jonathan's scruples provided a way for Buffy to defeat Warren in Seeing Red. No doubt the writers could have devised other ways, but they didn't have to (unless the forsaw the need in the beginning and added Jonathan for that sole reason? *g*).


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu May 23 02:19:19 2013 208.107.232.155) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard So Andrew and Jonathan were basically ways to illuminate Warren himself. Sorta like the scabby minions of Glory, a character for the big bad to react to.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 23 02:03:37 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

It was May 2003. I'm trusting Sarah's Carl on the day of the month. *g*

Your topic:

I wonder if the story arc for season six would have worked if it was just Warren, without either Jonathan or Andrew.

Did one even need Warren?

In all the other seasons if the big bad succeeded, then it would have been the end of life for many or the end of the world for all. If the Nerd Troika had succeeded, then there would have been a series of heists and Warren might have hurt some people to prove he could. And that's it.

In all the other seasons, the characters develop in the shadow of the big bad's evil doings. One or all had to make major personal decisions forced by the big bad's being.

How true is this for sixth season? What did each of the scoobies' desire?

In the beginning, all of the scoobies badly missed Buffy and four plotted to resurrect her. Once they did, they were peachy keen till she revealed she'd been in heaven. Both Dawn and Spike wanted Buffy's attention and even devotion. Anya wanted to get moving on with the life of a married couple, Xander not so much with that idea. Willow was happy being the Queen Bee of Magick until it cost her Tara, after she went hogwart-wild till she almost killed Dawn and from then it was how to be without magick.

Buffy's first desire was to return to heaven, but her need to protect Dawn prevented it. Afterwards Buffy had suffer the senses while also looking for work to support Dawn and herself. By Once More With Feeling she's needing to 'live again' and she sees a way of doing that through a sexual affair with Spike. Riley's return in As You Were gives her a moral lift and some perspective leading to her breaking up with Spike.

So, where are the places the characters are trying to go and how does the Nerd Troika help those stories?

Here's what the Nerds did in season six:

1. Life Serial: Assuming the Slayer could pose an obstacle, they experiment with ways of keeping her off balance.

2. Smashed: They steal a jewel they need for the invisible ray gun (IRG).

3. Gone: Using the IRG they accidentally shoot Buffy. Warren knows an invisible Buffy will soon be no Buffy and tries to keep that to himself. From a charcter development POV, what does being invisible say about Buffy's then feelings and thoughts?

4. Dead Things: They enslave Katrina (?) and then Warren hits and kills her. They try to frame Buffy for the death. What does Buffy's reaction to thinking she had killed Katrina say about Buffy's state of mind?

5. Normal Again: When Buffy comes to close to finding them, they release the demon that poisons her causing her to hallucinate about a better world (?). What does Buffy's hallucinations say about her state of mind?

6. Entropy: The Nerds' surveilliance system leads to both Spike and Anya's tryst and Buffy and Spike's affair being discovered. This leads to Xander stalking away from Buffy and later to Spike's visit and assault on Buffy in Seeing Red.1

7. Seeing Red: Buffy's thwarting of Warren's plan and power leads to him seeking revenge which leads to Tara's death which leads to Uber-Willow which leads to Warren's death which leads to Buffy vs. Uber Willow ...


So ... I started this thinking the Nerds basically provided some action scenes and humor, and come away realizing each of their episodes provided a window into Buffy's soul. Warren drove, but the writers needed the other two characters for Warren to play off of. Andrew and Jonathan helped create Warren's character for the viewers.

1 Why? 'Cause Dawn goes to see Spike and tells him if he wanted to hurt Buffy, then he succeeded. Spike probably thought Buffy would only feel hurt if she still loved him. So goes to see her.



WG



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ChirstopherMarlowe says:
(Thu May 23 00:52:25 2013 208.107.232.155) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard 10 years? Was it really that long ago? Wow. My life after getting hooked on Buffy was never the same!



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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 23 00:32:09 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Monday was the 10th anniversary of Chosen. Several old-timers, such as White Wings, visited. Last night was quiet. I hope to post later tonight on your topic from a few days ago.

WG



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu May 23 00:13:29 2013 69.247.134.78) [Edit/Delete]
white wings--Yes, we still have boxes too, *sigh*. I guess I should unpack the the china and crystal to see if it's still in one piece, though I packed it and therefore have no one to blame but myself if it's all in little tiny bits at the bottom of the boxes ;)

We're a long ways away from curtains, I'm jealous! Sorry about your refrigerator, we had that happen, a leaky water pipe behind the refrigerator that, of course, eventually leaked out onto the wood floor. Actually, it happened twice, because it leaked a second time since it wasn't repaired correctly, but at least we didn't have to pay to have the area refloored the second time since it wasn't our fault ;)

Yes, yes, redo the kitchen, you'll love it! I spend a lot of time in the kitchen and enjoy having one that functions well. Though there's an electric cooktop and I much prefer gas, but I doubt we'll be changing that out anytime soon.

I guess it would be a more enjoyable experience if I was a "typical" woman and enjoyed shopping, but I don't. I'm a hunter, not a gatherer ;)



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed May 22 23:56:04 2013 208.107.232.155) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Did I miss anything exciting while I was away?



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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 22 23:17:33 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick,

In each of your three candidate episodes, you've added or removed parts to your taste. You have changed the reality to meet your needs and expect the rest of us to agree with you.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed May 22 23:12:13 2013 208.107.232.155) [Edit/Delete]
Mucho Thanks to TriviaOldMan and Birthday Gnome for covering while I was gone. Things will be back to abnormal tomorrow. *g*



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Maverick says:
(Wed May 22 23:08:45 2013 98.209.65.200) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: Reading comprehension. "Question: Of the 144 episodes of BtVS, how many had no vampires in them?" How many? Requires a number. What you should be doing rather than to try to belittle me is to pull up the Buffyworld episodes our Inquisitor said contained no vampires and examine them. I think he was probably wrong (ignored a vampire drive-by or two) and that my 3 answer is probably even better.


Maverick


Reflections of My Life




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed May 22 23:04:48 2013 208.107.232.155) [Edit/Delete]
HOme!!!!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 22 22:57:36 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick,

As to the math of the matter. You pointed to three episodes in which you said there were no vampires and you were wrong in each case. You were wrong three out three times. Step away from the plate.

I estimated ~ 22 episodes did not have vampires. TriviaOldPerson's source said eight (?). If true, and I have not reason to doubt it, then I got 8 out 22 right and 14 wrong - still a better batting average than ZERO. :)

Your speculation on Buffy vs. Dracula is wrong.

Below are the excerpts of the two scenes where Buffy slayed vampires in Buffy vs. Dracula. Both are from the shooting script, courtesy of Buffyworld.com.



TEASER

INT. BUFFY'S BEDROOM - NIGHT (NIGHT ONE)

Buffy and Riley lie in bed together. Riley is sleeping soundly but Buffy is wide-eyed and restless. She looks over to Riley Makes a decision. She climbs quietly out of bed, leaving Riley undisturbed.

EXT. GRAVEYARD - NIGHT (NIGHT ONE)

CLOSE ON
A MAN'S LEGS as he RUNS as fast as he possibly can

CLOSE ON

Another set of legs, female this time, chasing after the man.

WIDEN TO SHOW
That this is Buffy, who pursues the fleeing VAMPIRE at an astounding pace. The intensity of her pursuit is wild, almost animal Like a leopard springing after it's prey
WHOMP! Buffy bounds onto a headstone, pushes off it and LEAPS onto the vampire, bringing him violently to the ground. Buffy and the vampire struggle in the mud for a few beats before she STRADDLES HIM and brings her stake down hard, dusting him.

CLOSE ON BUFFY
As she rises from the kill, breathing hard - eyes shining deadly

...

ACT 1
EXT. GRAVEYARD - NIGHT (NIGHT THREE)

CLOSE ON BUFFY
Who looks like she's enjoying her duty quite a bit. She's rolling on the ground again with another vampire. This one is a whole lot bigger than her - but, again, Buffy fights with primal, animal intensity.

ANGLE
In the shadows, a man is watching her. Dark, piercing eyes stare intently

ANGLE BUFFY
As Buffy gets the upper hand with the huge vamp. We hear her kill it in an (off camera) dust. Buffy sits up, breathing hard again



WG



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Maverick says:
(Wed May 22 22:44:06 2013 98.209.65.200) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: Reading comprehension they call it. " I know the "Anne" episode did not have any vampires but they may have monitored what the Scoobies were still doing." So I allowed for vampires in the Scooby part of the episode and merely said that in the "Anne" part of the "Anne" episode, I didn't think there were any vampires. BTW, when I congratulated you for being closer to the correct answer I was, needless to say, being sarcastic. Well, in "Buffy vs Dracula", I think Spike may have been in that episdode, so I can accept that I may have been wrong. The vampire sisters were also part of the illusion. Can you accept that 2 or 3 is closer to 8 than 22? Let's see, 8 - 3 = 5 and 22 - 8 = (square root of 9, carry the three) 14 . 5 goes into 14 = 2.8, so my answer (although wrong) was 2.8 times better than yours (which was very wrong.) I'll round that off to 3. Give me a break!


Maverick


Incense and Peppermint




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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 22 21:55:05 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Sarah's Carl,

I'm looking forward to The Crazy Ones. *g*


Maverick,

You accept that you are also wrong about there're not being a vampire in Buffy vs. Dracula?


WG



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Sarah's Carl says:
(Wed May 22 21:26:41 2013 68.45.216.85) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard, Beldin, valMichael, ChristopherMarlowe

A bit longer clip from the pilot of
The Crazy Ones
Sarah sings again :) & Kelly Clarkson too.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 22 21:12:30 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick,

Since you wrote, "...I know the "Anne" episode did not have any vampires...", thought I'd note it as another instance where what you knew not being what was so.

WG



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Maverick says:
(Wed May 22 20:42:11 2013 98.209.65.200) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: You are probably right. I didn't really look. The questions is like asking How many drawings in the Michigan Lottery, since it started, did not include a number with a 4 in it? I see the Trivia Inquisitor provided an answer list but doubt it's correct (without looking at every frame to see if some vampire perhaps wandered in front of the camera.) And, when in doubt I always answer "Dead Man's Party" as I consider it the worst Buffy episode. But I'm happy for you that your answer was so much closer to being right.


DaddyCatALSO: Yes, I remember that you once before said that Joss claimed the comics were canon. It's not that I don't believe you; I just do not believe Joss was paying attention when he answered that. I think he answered that way to NOT stop the source of cash flow that is coming from those comics. I believe if I personally asked him the question that he would relent.


Maverick


I Cannot Believe My Eyes




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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 22 20:02:24 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed May 22 20:02:55 2013
Maverick,

No vampire in Dead Mans Party?

From act 1 of the shooting script of Dead Mans Party, courtesy of Buffyworld.com


BUFFY
Didn't anyone tell you about playing
with pointy sticks? It's all fun and
games until someone loses an eye.

A stunned Xander takes in what just happened. And WHO it just happened with.


XANDER
You... shouldn't sneak up on people
like that.

Another moment. Xander loses the cool, shakes his head.


XANDER
Jeez, Buff-

He opens his arms and they move to HUG EACH OTHER. It's about to be a nice moment, but suddenly A PISSED OFF VAMPIRE TACKLES XANDER.

Xander wrestles with the vamp, almost has the upper hand... Then BUFFY BLINDSIDES THE VAMP and knocks him off Xander.

While the vamp tries to recover, BUFFY DRAWS A STAKE. Xander leaps to his feet - also with STAKE DRAWN.

The VAMP GROWLS, starts to get up. BOTH Xander and Buffy move to take him. They glance at each other.


BUFFY
Oh. Go ahead.


XANDER
No, you go.


BUFFY
No, it's-



WG



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TrivialOldMan says:
(Wed May 22 20:01:09 2013 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Today's Trivia results

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Question: Of the 144 episodes of BtVS, how many had no vampires in them?
Answer: eight... Witch, The Pack, I, Robot... You Jane, The Puppet Show, Inca Mummy Girl, Living Condition, Fear Itself and Beer Bad.

If you want to argue the answers, contact Imdb. You will notice they are mostly from seasons 1 (before Angel was a regular) and 4 (before Spike was a regular).

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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 22 19:49:32 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed May 22 20:00:11 2013
Maverick,

No vampire in Anne?

The TEASER from the shooting script of Anne, courtesy of Buffyworld.com


EXT. GRAVEYARD - NIGHT

ANGLE: A GRAVESTONE

It reads: ANDREW HOELICH, 1981-1998.

And from the ground before it, a hand digs its way out of the grave.

The hand is, duh, Andrew's, and he pulls himself slowly up from under, vampire face in a grimace of effort.

A pair of legs steps into frame before him. Girl legs. From one of her hands dangles a wicked looking stake. Nearly all the way out, Andrew looks up at the figure facing him, grins.


WILLOW
That's right, big boy . . .

PUSH IN ON: WILLOW

Facing the vamp with a slayeresque 'tude.


WILLOW
Come and get it.

Andrew rises -- and Willow takes a step back, suddenly less Slayery. Andrew is about to move forward when XANDER grabs him from behind, wrapping his arms tight around him and spinning him to the right.


XANDER
I got him! Go!

OZ steps up from the shadows with a stake -- and pulls back to thrust it at the vamp.


XANDER
Any time now . . .

But Andrew suddenly kicks both legs up, slamming Oz in the jaw and sending him flying back, Andrew's legs continuing up until he flips himself over Xander, gets behind him. Xander spins, ready to fight, as Willow rushes forward to help. Andrew throws Xander into Willow and they both go sprawling. Andrew vaults over the tombstone and starts running away.


WILLOW
He's getting away. And, ow!

Suddenly Oz steps between the other two, an intense look of cool concentration on his face.

ANGLE: THE STAKE

As he flips it, grabbing the pointy end and holding it loosely at his finger tips.

ANGLE: ANDREW

Running away, his back presenting a dwindling target.

ANGLE: OZ

As he concentrates, lining up his shot.

In a blur, he suddenly HURLS the stake like a throwing knife. It bounces uselessly off a tomb about eight feet away. Oz shrugs.


OZ
That really never works.
(turns to the others)
Are you guys all right?


WILLOW
I can't believe he got away.


XANDER
First of all, what was with the acrobatics?
How did that happen?


OZ
Wasn't Andy Hoelich on the gymnastics team?


XANDER
That's right, he was!
(calls out after Andrew)
Cheater!


WILLOW
That wasn't in the obituary. I should
have checked the school records.


XANDER
Okay, and the second problem I'm having . . .
(turns to Willow)
"Come and get it big boy"?


WILLOW
(defensively)
Well, well, the slayer always says
a pun or a witty play on words and
I think it throws vampires off and
makes them frightened that I'm
wisecracking and okay, I didn't
really have time to work on that
one but you try it every time!


OZ
If I can suggest . . . "This time it's
personal . . ."? I mean, there's a
reason why it's a classic.


XANDER
I was always amazed by the
way Buffy fought, but . . .
in a way I think we all took
her punning for granted.


WILLOW
Xander. Past Tense Rule.


XANDER
Sorry. I just meant we in the past
took it for granted and won't when
she . . . when she comes back.



WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed May 22 19:34:19 2013 66.246.173.34) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick And I really, really,really, hope you'ven't forgotten that your take on "B vs D" is not the official canon



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Maverick says:
(Wed May 22 19:19:52 2013 98.209.65.200) [Edit/Delete]
I'm taking drinking a Fifth of Old Grand Dad.


TrivialOldMan: I can't look at every frame of 7 years of Buffy so I'll just say "Dead Man's Party" and "Buffy Meets Dracula" (as he was just an illusion created by "Those Amazing Monks." I know the "Anne" episode did not have any vampires but they may have monitored what the Scoobies were still doing.


Maverick


A Summer Place




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worldguard says:
(Wed May 22 18:41:55 2013 98.192.33.109) [Edit/Delete]
Drive-By


TriviaOldPerson,

Of the 144 episodes of BtVS, how many had no vampires in them?

This is an estimate. *g*

22 (+/- 1).


If you had excluded Spike and Angel, I would not have even tried to estimate the number (especially Spike). *g*

From a skim, it looks like season three was the only one in which every episode had a vampire.



WG



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TrivialOldPerson says:
(Wed May 22 17:33:10 2013 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
ShadowQuest - no vampires at all.

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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed May 22 16:38:52 2013 66.246.173.34) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed May 22 17:38:55 2013
Deadguy Memorial Quod A dramedy with Lorne as a working partner at a more humane casino.* Could have a bunch of musical guests showing up playing versions of themselves.

ShadowQuest Knock 'em dead, lass!

* Actually, that's sort of how I use him, at a casino called the Georgic, in my fic "Never Bet the Devil Someone Else's He ad." I have Anya, after D'Hoffryn gets tired of having his friends torture her and sends her back to Earth, working down the street as a croupier at a casino claled the Calicut, run by a demon named Beltagru, who was once the Treasurer in his home demon dimension.



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ShadowQuest says:
(Wed May 22 15:56:12 2013 65.73.73.196) [Edit/Delete]
Zoom through

TrivialOldPerson Afraid you'll have to be a bit more specific. Do you mean no vampires at all, which would include Spike & Angel, or do you mean Buffy didn't fight any vampires in that particular episode?

Can't stick around for the answer - gotta get dressed & head to the job fair.

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TrivialOldPerson says:
(Wed May 22 15:35:26 2013 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Question: Of the 144 episodes of BtVS, how many had no vampires in them?

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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed May 22 14:19:34 2013 66.246.173.34) [Edit/Delete]
KAM Beldin The original Black Panther was an itneresting character, but they never seemed to know what to do with him when they tried solo strips. Same thing with Red Wolf.



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KAM says:
(Wed May 22 12:43:26 2013 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Good Morning Everyone,

YAY FENRIC

Deadguy QOD
: The Wesley/Illyria show!

Beldin: It may be a brand new character, or a revision of one as well.
Speaking of that...Black Panther...I saw a comic with him (an older neighbor kid had a collection) and thought he was the coolest...and still to this day just dig that character. I think it was the sleek all black costume that just said "awesome."

KAM
Ty King Fan



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed May 22 11:45:00 2013 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for fenric!

yay fenric!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by

the laverne & shirley awards - for t.v. spinoffs

if there were a spinoff from angel, what would it have been?

Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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Beldin says:
(Wed May 22 03:43:52 2013 64.92.34.103) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard - Thankee most kindly.


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