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wolfguard says:
(Fri Jul 25 03:10:17 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Fenric!


Belated Yay Mr. Whyt!


Happy Birthday Mr. Everdawn!


Happy Birthday Dirty Socks!


Belated Happy Birthday Charisma Carpenter!




Belated Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question


Who was the most batsh!t crazy person (creature) ever on BtVS or Angel?

Glory did alright when she was on her 'meds' and for all her creative utterances, Dru was quite functional. So, from Buffyworld.com's transcript of Graduation Day 2...

Willow: "Why do demons even come here any more? I mean, don't they know..."

Seriously, aren't the vampires, demons, and forces of darkness at least neurotic in following the same old behaviors that get them dusted and slayed? Give it a thought. *g*


When I went to pull the line, I first went to the shooting script. What I had forgotten. Here are the final lines in the shooting script ...


WILLOW
Why do demons even come here anymore?
Don't they know how bad we are?

BUFFY
I think we've done pretty much everything
we can. You guys wanna take off?

CORDELIA
I'm for it.

WILLOW
(to Buffy)
You okay?

Buffy considers the question.

BUFFY
Yeah. I'm okay. I just... I could use a
little sleep.

WILLOW
Yeah.

BUFFY
If somebody could just wake me up
when it's time to go to college, that'd
be great.

OZ
Guys. Take a moment to deal with this.
We survived.

BUFFY
It was a hell of a battle.

OZ
Not that battle. High school.

They all think about it. It IS actually kind of cool.

OZ (cont'd)
We're taking a moment.
(beat)
And we're done.

They head off. As they recede in the distance, they continue:

XANDER
You know what the best part of high
school was?

BUFFY
When we blew it up?

XANDER
Yeah! That ruled. 'Cause you know the
thing that made it so special...

BUFFY
Was that the school blew up?

XANDER
Exactly!

BUFFY
I begin to find you troubling.

XANDER
Oh, come on, you know you're all
thinking it.

BUFFY
Well...

And then, overlapping:

WILLOW
I was.

CORDELIA
Pretty much.

OZ
Uh huh.

BUFFY
Yeah.

Their chatter dies away as they grow smaller in the frame, the camera finally tilting down to find a partially burnt yearbook lying on the ground

Sunnydale, '99

The future is ours.



What happen here? Did they run out of time and have to cut? Columbine was recent and raw. Earshot had been postponed and so was Graduation Day 2. Those last lines were too close for comfort so that entire final exchange as they walked away got cut and Willow's line became the last.

Also of interest, at least to me *g*, is Oz's ~ We're taking a moment (beat) and we're done ~

In the episode, immediately following ~We're taking a moment~ Buffy and Willow get up and start walking away. Oz looks to Cordelia and ~ "We're done'

Neat

*g*


Good Night to All

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jul 25 02:07:29 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Comma You are correct! Me bad Buffy fan.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jul 25 01:58:17 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
back online!



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Comma says:
(Fri Jul 25 01:56:19 2014 71.87.174.53) [Edit/Delete]
ChristopherMarlowe: Should that be Randy and Giles?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jul 24 23:46:17 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
wolfgaurd That was perfect.
Even more hilarious was Anya and
Giles thinking they were a couple or
Spike and Giles!

offline for a bit.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jul 24 23:38:03 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

From the shooting script of Tabula Rasa
Courtesy of Buffyworld.com


ON BUFFY AND DAWN

DAWN
So you don't have a name?

BUFFY
Of course I do. I just don't happen
to know it.

DAWN
You want me to name you?

BUFFY
That's sweet, but I think I can name
myself. I'll name me.. Joan.

Dawn recoils.

DAWN
Ug!

BUFFY (hurt)
What? Why'd you 'ug' my name?

DAWN
I didn't. It's just so.. .blarg.
'Joan'?

BUFFY
I like it. I feel like a Joan.

DAWN
Fine. That's your purgative.

BUFFY
(correcting)
Prerogative.

DAWN
Whatever. 'Joan'.

BUFFY
Whatever. 'Umad'.


BUFFY
Boy you're a pain in the
neck. (simultaneously) DAWN
Boy you're bossy.

An idea strikes them both.

DAWN
Do you think we're--

BUFFY
Sisters.

It feels so true they can't deny it. They grin. And hug.




Joan the Vampire Hunter

*g*



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jul 24 22:53:25 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard The expression on everyone's faces when they encounter vampires was a classic comedy scene, made extra funny within the context of the show. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jul 24 22:47:25 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

You and valMichael are way ahead of me. I just watched Bachelor Party. I remember the villains in Hero were demons of a fascist bent who saw themselves as pure demons and were hell-bent on cleansing the world of less-than-pure demons. Essentially, Nazi Demons hunting down Jewish Demons. Is that was you did not like about them?


WG



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Comma says:
(Thu Jul 24 22:09:30 2014 71.87.174.53) [Edit/Delete]
I went back at looked at the claim, that I posted on here, that gun deaths were down 49% in the last twelve years. Remind me to read all eight pages next time. The writer was making a comparison all gun deaths, between the twelve years, 1986-1997, and the twelve years 1998-2010. What was not explained, until the last paragraph, was that the stats from those 24 years, from the five worse cities for gun deaths, were left out. He does state that with those five cities added back in the stats have almost remained the same. This ends up being someone who I think came up with the report finding and then made the stats support those findings. Even using the writers stats, and leaving out the five cities, I only come up with gun deaths being down 27%.

In conclusion, I retract the 49% statement.

Comma



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jul 24 21:27:22 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

The loan shark was a bit too campy, but it's from the teaser of one of the great comedic episodes - barring the ending - Tabula Rasa by Rebecca Kirshner. Kittens as money or chips was introduced in the earlier episode, Life Serial, written by Jane Espenson and David Fury. Ms. Kirshner was probably playing off it. I believe Clem, the demon, was also introduced in that episode though not by name.



WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Jul 24 21:06:01 2014 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Inventions
Question: What was the first commercial tv remote control by Zenith called?
Answer: Lazy Bones

Trivia controllers: OldManFan, notsoShyGirl



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Jul 24 19:35:12 2014 167.166.23.242) [Edit/Delete]
Heh. SMG tweeted recently complaining about the traffic jams created by the president's visit to LA.



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OldManFan says:
(Thu Jul 24 17:53:39 2014 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard - oops, wrong season opener.

OMF



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jul 24 17:43:48 2014 98.192.33.109) [Edit/Delete]
Drive-By

Agent Cooper,

LOL!


valMichael,

Now I understand - I believe. *g* Thank you.


OldManFan,

"...the demon bikers from Lesson"??? Perhaps Bargaining?


Lostinamerica,

I agree collecting data is part of any successful policy. This is why both the methodology and organizations tasked with it are critical. Consider 'terrorism'. What federal organization is best suited for collecting and/or analyzing the data? Before 9-11 there was a continuing debate on whether terrorism was best dealt with as a law enforcement problem or a national security (defense) problem. If terrorism is a criminal matter, then the FBI and international treaties are the tool. If terrorism is a national security matter, then CIA and drones are the tools.

I believe how a public problem or issue is defined channels what organizations are tasked with dealing with it and what existing law and potential regulations and law can be brought to bear. If the particular field of law has a lot of leeway for executive and administrative action, then the party out of power will be loathe for an important issue to be labeled such that it falls under the domain of such organizations.


Loved the SMG photos. *g*



WG



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valMichael says:
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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Jul 24 16:59:25 2014 167.166.23.242) [Edit/Delete]
Chris Marlowe: The only thing worse on the show than those stupid biker goons was that idiotic loan shark demon. Good lord, that was DUMB.

In fact, that whole ep was painful to watch, probably the nadir of the series. Playing poker for kittens? Honestly!?

Joss must have been on vacation that week. The writers really phoned that turkey in. Oy vey!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Jul 24 16:53:13 2014 167.166.23.242) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard, Chris Marlowe: Actually, I already knew all that technical stuff about the sun mirror that ValMichael posted*, I just wanted to see if he knew. Well done V!

:-P


*No. No I did not.



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valMichael says:
(Thu Jul 24 16:08:46 2014 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu Jul 24 17:21:38 2014
Happy Birthday: Alyiania, BiffyBuffy, Dirty Socks, Kalika, and Mr. EverDawn!

YAY fenric! (of the Big List!)

ChristopherMarlowe I totally agree. The Demon Nazis were terrible!

wolfguard,Christopher Marlowe The Shkadov Thruster is actually something I hadn't heard of before, so I had to look it up. The article in Wikipedia is incomplete (missing a lot), but it's actually very simple. The large spherically curved mirror is located at a point far enough from the sun so that the amount of radiation pressure on the mirror exactly equals the gravitational attraction on it from the sun. Because of this, the mirror will be stationary relative to the sun in space, and doesn't orbit the sun. The light emitted from the sun that strikes the mirror will be reflected back to the sun, creating an imbalance in the solar output in the direction of the mirror. Since light has momentum, that momentum will be transferred back to the sun, and there will be a thrust (force) in the direction of the mirror from the sun. That is, more light will leave the sun opposite the mirror than will leave the sun in the direction of the mirror. This will create a force on the sun. Since force equals mass times acceleration (F=m*a), the sun will accelerate in the direction of the mirror. Anything gravitationally bound to the sun will also feel the same acceleration, including all the solar system and also the mirror since the light pressure balances the sun's gravitational attraction on the mirror at it's location. The amount of thrust will depend on three things, the output of the sun, and the location and size of the mirror.

Interestingly, you could use a parabolic mirror that would reflect all the light over a given region of space in the same direction instead of radially back toward the sun.

"For a star such as the Sun, with luminosity 3.85x10^26 W and mass 1.99x10^30 kg, the total thrust produced by reflecting half of the solar output would be 1.28x10^18 N. After a period of one million years this would yield an imparted speed of 20 m/s, with a displacement from the original position of 0.03 light-years."1.

The acceleration of the sun in this example is 6.4x10^-13 m/s2, which is extremely small, so it's real slow process. For example, using the same acceleration to accelerate a 1.0 kg. ball so it traveled one meter across a small table would take 1,250,000 seconds or 347.22 hrs or 14.4 days. Just think of waiting 2 weeks for the ball to move across a small table. :)

PS: the physics of this is really simple. :)

1 Shakdov Thruster @ Wikipedia.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu Jul 24 14:44:55 2014 50.243.137.201) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
The Lazy Bones, developed in 1950



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OldManFan says:
(Thu Jul 24 14:43:53 2014 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl - it was, apparently, named after me... Lazybones.

OMF



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Jul 24 14:40:17 2014 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Inventions
Question: What was the first commercial tv remote control by Zenith called?



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OldManFan says:
(Thu Jul 24 14:09:07 2014 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe - possibly, but if you include Buffy the 'worst conceived and written villains of the series' would have to be the demon bikers from Lessons.

OMF



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jul 24 13:21:04 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
yay fenric!


Happy CD Thursday!


valMichael, wolfguard I watched Hero last night. The episode with the worst concieved and written villains of the series, but the story of Doyle almost makes up for it. The commercial still chokes me up every time.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Jul 24 13:03:35 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Thursday, July 24th C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!



Alyiania
BiffyBuffy
Dirty Socks
Kalika
Mr.EverDawn



Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
Alyiania, BiffyBuffy, Dirty Socks, Kalika, Mr. EverDawn!



Mal: Gotta say, doctor, your talent for alienatin' folk is near miraculous. Simon: Yes, I'm very proud. 'Safe'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Jul 24 12:24:39 2014 69.247.134.78) [Edit/Delete]
Aww, how cute, they look so happy now--I guess not being the Chosen One anymore is a relief ;)

Buffy, Giles Together Again



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KAM says:
(Thu Jul 24 12:16:29 2014 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Good Morning Everyone,

YAY FENRIC

KAM
Ty King Fan



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Jul 24 12:14:06 2014 69.247.134.78) [Edit/Delete]
Giant mirror, sun, what? *head hurts*


wolfguard--Well, according to the 2010 data firearm deaths used to be one of the top 15 causes of death in the U.S., so that makes it something worth recording. How will we know now if it keeps dropping or begins going up again?



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Jul 24 12:07:34 2014 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for fenric!

yay fenric!


Happy CD Thursday!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jul 24 04:21:16 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu Jul 24 04:22:32 2014
wolfguard, Agent Cooper


A spherical arc mirror (of semi-angle ψ) is placed such that the radiation pressure force generated by the stellar radiation field on its surface is matched by the gravitational force of the star on the mirror. Radiation impinging on the mirror is reflected back towards the star, preventing it from escaping. This force imbalance produces a thrust

ETA

Sounds a little like recoil.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jul 24 04:03:16 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

I read some of the Wikipedia article on the 'shkadov thruster'. Still do not understand how it works. To me, it seems crudely equivalent to a person standing on a skate board and throwing balls at an attached board and expecting to be pushed by the balls bouncing back. That said, I believe the guys who conceived it were/are physicists and wouldn't make such a mistake. For now, I bow to them and am baffled. Let's see what valMichael thinks of it. *g*


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jul 24 02:49:30 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

I can see how that might move the mirror, but not the Sun. I will search for article.

WG



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agent cooper says:
(Thu Jul 24 02:42:21 2014 108.4.147.40) [Edit/Delete]
cont...the theory is you erect a giant mirror close to
the sun and its energy bounces off the mirror and
moves the star in the opposite direction. kind of. i
think. ;=)



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agent cooper says:
(Thu Jul 24 02:28:35 2014 108.4.147.40) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard, I am not sure i really understand it to be
honest. I haven't figured out how to copy and
paste links from this vita yet. The story is from
Popular Mechanics site. If you are curious google
that plus shkadov thruster and you should find it.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jul 24 02:26:34 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Duly noted. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jul 24 02:14:19 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Off guns, if you kill another person and claim self-defense, beware you have also admitted to the act of homicide. If the district attorney decides to charge you with criminal homicide (or some similar crime), then you can't say you didn't do the homicide. You said you did. You have to prove to the jury that the homicide was justifiable - that the elements of legitimate self-defense existed.

Note, 'existed' is a perception. You perceived the elements as existing and you can convince the jury that any reasonable person, i.e. such as themselves, would have also perceived the situation the same way.

Disclaimer: I am not an attorney and this should not be taken as legal advice. *g*



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jul 24 01:57:56 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu Jul 24 01:59:20 2014
Agent Cooper,

How does the giant mirror work?


Lostinamerica,

The person also told me it was the Republican Congress that did it. Some years ago, the CDC announced it considered firearm deaths (and injuries?) as a condition that would fall within their mandate of study. I believe some conservatives and libertarians thought this reasoning wrong. Some also thought it was just a tactic liberals and Democrats could use to further gun control policy. This is probably why the Republicans passed legislation prohibiting further CDC research.

I've not given it much thought so don't have a position, though when I first learned the CDC labeling firearm deaths as something analogical to epidemics I did feel a bit suspicious of the move.

I used 'epidemic' beause no other better word came immediately to mind. *g*



WG



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Jul 24 01:36:46 2014 69.247.134.78) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard--That's terribly short-sighted--how can you determine which action to take if you have no data to study?

One thing I thought was interesting in the Slate article--even though suicide accounted for the majority of firearm deaths, one expert quoted in the article thought that publicizing this fact and attempting to get people to not do this would only drive more to do so.


Agent Cooper--LOL, brontosaurus burgers!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Jul 24 01:33:45 2014 108.4.147.40) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard; i read an article today about a plan to
use a giant mirror to push the sun and thus the
whole solar system toward a new star. The idea is
we discard the old sun before it burns out and
move to a new one. they are serious apparently.



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agent cooper says:
(Thu Jul 24 01:19:13 2014 108.4.147.40) [Edit/Delete]
chris marlowe-i actually just finished the hobbit
again. i want to read it to my daughter soon. im
ready to reread Dresden again-but my brother just
gave me a book, dr sleep, the sequel to the
shining. I just started it, and it is depressing and
horrible so far. may quit, but bro warned me it was
a tough read at first but gets better.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jul 24 01:10:58 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

I did. One of the comments ...

Pick mine, pick mine

*g*


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jul 24 00:57:09 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Did you catch my
deer link from last night?



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Jul 24 00:25:33 2014 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
NASA's Asteroid Redirect Mission!

This has the potential to be the beginning of Earthlings breaking free from one planet. *g*



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jul 24 00:08:47 2014 209.159.255.81) [Edit/Delete]
I think it is Angel tonight. Nothing
else on worth watching.


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