Here now.

Woo and Hoo! Finally got the fourth Planetary book. (Can't really call it a Graphic Novel but can you call it a TPB when it's a hardback?)

Lostinamerica,

Thank you, but neonate may not have done so. I think he comes closest with "...a stitch this time..."

"This" and not "in."

I sense something covert going on here. *g*


WG

lostinamerica I can't believe just how poorly Jeff and Jordan do on the race. It's like they've never been outside of the BB house or something.

wolfguard--I think you have to use it all at once:

The operating room team worked furiously in an attempt to stop the bleeding. Blood slowly dripped from the table onto the tile floor as the surgeon quickly and confidently stitched the artery, the nurse stuffing gauze anywhere she could as he did so. After a few moments the surgeon tied off his work and handed his instruments to the harried nurse.

The little group of residents who had been watching the procedure ventured forward for a better look. Clearly impressed by the surgeon's skill, they waited for him to speak.

The surgeon turned. "Yes, well, as you can see even the most routine procedure can quickly become life-threatening. The important thing is to always remain calm. You know what they say, 'A stitch in time saves nine'." He chuckled.

Some of the students smiled behind their masks. Then, as the surgeon turned to finish the job the artery burst open, splattering him and several of the students. They involuntarily recoiled as the surgeon began barking orders to his nurse.

"Guess you're gonna need those nine other stiches," she replied gruffly as she began handing him new instruments.


Algerina--I don't know which chipmunk it was. I didn't get to hear it speak before the cat nabbed him ;)

As for The Amazing Race--that's why I was wondering earlier if the couples this season are a little slower. I think it's just two couples in particular that are a little slower ;)

valMichael I'll be rooting for both of your teams! How many more games left?

Whew, break time.

Happy Birthday bbob, TheShawn, Toiletduck, & willNxand !

lostinamerica I think the problem is when they do two flavors in on cracker, just a bit too much.

Tea Time - is some soothing peppermint tea. This morning went rather smoothly, relatively speaking and I don't have to do this again until Friday, the other two sessions I was schedule for has been cancelled. Yay!

The Birthday Gnome Umm, I'm not seeing a "Mercedes McNab as Harmony" in your lists for the past 48 hours . . . .

Arggghhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!

Drive-By


Algerina,

"They said they liked horses because they didn't have to peddle them"

LOL



Adri,

I'm not certain of how you want us to use today's prompt phrase. Are we to use the individual words, the phrase as a whole in the piece, or the phrase as a theme for the piece?


WG

NCAA Basketball Tournement Both my teams, the Houston Cougars, and the Florida Gators, made it to the tournament!


GO COURARS! GO GATORS!

I just hope they both win at least one game. Florida(10th seed) plays BYU(7th seed), so they've got a good shot. But Houston(13th seed) plays Maryland(4th seed) who are actually superb having finished 2nd in the ACC just behind powerhouse Duke. :(

Sunnydale Trivia

Catagory: Literature

Question Who said "Beware the Ides of March?"

Answer: soothslayer

Bonus question: When is the ides of September?

Sept the 14th

Super soothslayers - notsoShyGirl, OldManFan,

Endangered Emperors - Leather Jacket

Today is Monday, March 15, 2010 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!

bbob
TheShawn
Toiletduck
willNxand

Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
¡ bbob, TheShawn, Toiletduck, & willNxand !

If you want on the list, E-mail Birthdays and use Subject: Bronze Birthday.

Late again, as usual on Mondays

Yay ¡ genevieves lucie!

Trivia Girl the soothsayer in Julius Caesar by William Shakespeare.
The ides of September were the 13th.
2053 years ago today, Julius Gaius Caesar was murdered on the steps of the Roman Senate.

Leather Jacket medusacascade I've heard that the Dutch and the Swiss have systems using mandatory private insurance that work fairly well.

Yay genieveve lucie!

Trivia Girl - the soothsayer

Leather Jacket - Yeah, that Wilde. Who, for me at least, is amongst the greatest authors of all time.

And I agree. I think healthcare is a great thing, but required insurance... not quite so much. I think it would be a good time for us to look at Britain or France.

Adri's prompt:

Prompt Phrase "A stitch in time"

A stitch in my side. It's been happening all the time lately, when I try to run. I stopped, but still I can't hardly breathe. I've got to realize I'm not as young as I used to be.

Did I stop in time? That stitch just won't go away. I feel like--like someone's sitting on me. Right on my chest. It doesn't hurt it's justI can hardly stand. And here I am, on a back trail, in the cold and the rain. No one out here with me. Pretty sure it's not just a stitch this time. If only I could breathe, if only it'd let up.

Hey, somebody's there. I see someone. "Hey," I try to call, can't hardly get the words out, before I double over. "Hey, over here," I call again.

Don't hear any footsteps. But there's somebody there, by my side. I can't hardly lift my head. "Ma, is that you?"

"I always told you about your heart. Youve got a weak one, just like that worthless father of yours. You should have lost that weight when they told you. You should have had that procedure done. You know what I always saida stitch in time. But you, always too busy--even to come to your own mother's funeral."

Yea, thanks ma

Algerina - what about Alvin, Simon, & Theodore?

OMF

LostinAmerica
Chip or Dale?

TAR - The couple that went home had gotten too cocky served them right. As for the other couple if you can't read a map why are you in a land race? I still like the cowboys. They said they liked horses because they didn't have to peddle them" LOL

Trivia Girl : Who said, "Beware the Ides of March"? That whacky College Basketball announcer guy.
When is the Ides of September? October 5th.

Another week, another T-shirt derby. I hope people who can will consider voting for my submissions for "Band Names Reimagined":
Little River Band
Nine Inch Nails

lostinamerica : I think there was a time when critics and the general public were closer in their opinions of movies. I believe part of this is that the general public has dumbed down (how else can you explain the entire Will Farrell ouvre?) but in part, critics have become much more picky. I have my doubts that The Adventures of Robin Hood with Erol Flynn would have passed muster with today's critics, being an action movie and all.

Menomegirl : Apparently, I broke the board by not barfing up a snake, never mind all the other people who didn't barf up a snake.

medusacascade : The first thing politicians have to realize is that almost everyone would like to have health care, but some are forced to choose between paying for food and paying for heat. Mandating that people buy insurance is not the answer. The next is that the biggest cost in medical care is for doctors paying malpractice insurance. They need to overhaul the entire malpractice process, because as it is, everyone is being punished --- except the lawyers and the insurance companies.
/soapbox

Beldin : Have you ever tried to barf up a snake? It's not as easy as it looks.

Pi Day was Cherry for me. I had it pretty close to 1:59:26, but I can't say it was exactly then.

medusacascade, Beldin : Wilde? As in Oscar Wilde? As in The Picture of Dorian Gray? Barf! ... okay, that was eloquent.

Adri : Is it really that I didn't hug you? Or is it all the stories you hear about the people I did hug?
Flash Fic
"Sit down," Alex said as he rounded back behind the mahogany desk.
David walked into the large office, shut the door behind him and took a leather-bound seat. He glanced over Alex' shoulder at the large gold community-service award plaque and the old sports trophies that sat on the shelf.
"You know business has been off lately, and while no one likes to do this..." Alex swallowed.
David noted that Alex wasn't looking at him. Instead, he was gazing off through the large plate glass window overlooking the city. David also swallowed, though his throat was dry.
"... we're going to have to start some cost-cutting measures," Alex continued. "A stitch in time, as they say." He laughed awkwardly. It was more an expulsion of air.
David resisted the urge to climb over that expensive mahogany desk and slug him.
"I know you're single..."
David seethed. This guy had no business poking into his personal life. 'Single', 'gay', he was not about to be sharing his private details with this... And just because he wasn't married didn't mean he didn't need the job.
"... and you have a house? That's impressive. Unfortunately, I can't let people's lifestyles influence who we can keep on."
David continued to stay silent. As angry as he might be, he was going to need this guy's reference.
"But we do need to stay in business, so I'm going to need you to stay on. I hope you will."
"Excuse me?" David blinked.
"We need to make some budget cuts here, but we're going to need to stay in business. I need you to help me with this."
"You called me in here to not-fire me?"
"Well, I need a bit more than just that." Alex sighed deeply. "I'm going to need to cut costs and I'm hoping you can help me identify who we can afford to lose."
"Wait..." David's mind raced. "Can I speak freely?"
"I wish you would."

Finish the Limerick

Thanks to the folks who played over the weekend:
Made me laugh: Old One, buffyrat
Creatively done: Algerina

Today's Limerick
There once was a cross-country skier
Who wanted to not disappear

Edited only to fix tags.

valMichael wolfguard That's why I put the word "Right" in quotes.

Christopher Marlowe Well, actually yes; the fact that soem of the intepretations by soem of the people might be silly or absurd or contradictory is one of the costs associated with free thought.

lostinamerica well, I had intended to sue spoiler font, I jusdt frogot which command was which.

medusascascade A student teacher read us "The statue and the Swallow" in 6th-grade English; a memory I could do without.
I tried reading Teh Protrait of Dorian Gray a couple years ago; I got almost to the last chapter before I gave up and skipped ahead.

I did see Vincent PRice doing Diversiosn and Del;ights back in the 70s but don't remember it tooo well.

Trivia Girl - the soothsayer. Ides of September - the 13th until Julius Caesar added a day to Sept., then it became the 14th.

OMF

A neighbor's cat has just backed its head out of a chipmunk hole with a chipmunk in its mouth--good kitty!

now take it to the neighbor's back door, not mine!

Christopher Marlowe--I can't think of one flavored cracker I like--the ones I've tried were too salty and garlicky.

And how's about last night's Amazing Race? What a smart move by the detectives! And could those other two teams be any more clueless?


DaddyCatALSO--"Tell your girlfriend her earrings are fake?" I'm shocked! Bad, bad DaddyCatALSO ;)


Leather Jacket--That's all true. I'm wondering how often the critics and general public agree on whether a movie is good or not. How many blockbusters were also critical favorites? Because it seems like many times we common folk don't know what's good, according the the movie critics ;)

I think I'll be taking my youngest son to see The Blind Side today, sigh--I'm still expecting a feel-good sports movie.


Yay! Genevieve's Lucie!

Trivia Stand In Girl
The soothsayer, to Julius Caesar

Sunnydale Trivia

Catagory: Literature

Question Who said "Beware the Ides of March?"

Bonus question: When is the ides of September?

Off to the Board of Equalization meetings. I doubt I'll have net access, so the earliest I can post again might be noonish!

Happy Birthday Buffyenta, SherBear, & Tiamat

Adri's challenge

Darn darn darn" she mumbled under breath.

"Cinderella! I heard that" her stepmother called from the dining room.

She was tempted to say more in language much stronger but the all hearing ears would pick that up too. So she sat silently in her corner, matching socks and darning the least visible tear her stepmother's rule echoing in her head. "A stitch in time saves nine"

KAM Tea is is so versatile, isn't it?

I'll have three different jobs today, the Board of Equalization this morning, my part-time job this afternoon and the council meeting this evening. Almost think I should get paid extra.

Yay Genevieve's Lucie

Good Morning Everyone,

YAY GENEVIEVE'S LUCIE

lostinamerica: Thanks!

Christopher Marlowe: I haven't tried the Iced tea yet, but I generally like it, and have had the hot-brewed, cooled and iced versions, so I am guessing I will like this too.

KAM
Ty King Fan

Comma Every President has led us into something bad. I think. Doesn't look like Obama is much different.

Yay Genevieve's Lucie!

Didn't want Monday to come, but it came anyways.

let's hear a great big bronze cheer for genevieve's lucie!

yay genevieve's lucie!


Goodbye Blue Monday!

Funny Wolfguard!

Yes, it seems like just yesterday that President Reagan led us out of the mess that Carter left us. Johnny Cash was still releasing songs, and showing up on TV, and Bob Hope was still doing shows for the troops and TV specials.

Now we have Obama and there is no cash and no hope!

Comma

Flash Fic 3: Prompt Phrase "A
stitch in time"

Clotho, Lachesis, and Atropos
huddled together staring at the
rent in the weft and warp of their
fine weaving. Sure, occasionally
there were snags and snarls but
never before had something like
this happened. But they always
knew it was possible. In fact, it
was inevitable because humans could
never just leave damned well enough
alone.

Atropos said with disgust, "Time
traveling idiots poked a hole
straight through the spacetime
continuum. Pshaw. You know, the
whales are as smart as the humans
or smarter. They just don't feel
the need to brag. or to meddle
with time travel. We never have
trouble like this from the whales."

Lachesis injected drily, "That's
not quite fair. The whales don't
have opposable thumbs. Who knows
what mischief they might have
gotten into if only they had
developed opposable thumbs?"

Clotho rolled her eyes and then
sighed. "We can try to repair it
but it will never be as good as it
was originally. More, you know
they'll do it again just because
they can and it's too late to undo
the free will thing."

The three paused to survey the
damage a moment more before
preparing to set a stitch in time.

wolfguard ROFLMAO!

wolfguard - lol.



Time for me to head out. Good night and have a pleasant tomorrow.

Drive-By


A friend emailed me the following tonight.

The economy is so bad that ....

...I got a pre-declined credit card in the mail.

...I ordered a burger at McDonald's and the kid behind the counter asked, "Can you afford fries with that?"

... CEO's are now playing miniature golf.

... If the bank returns your check marked "Insufficient Funds," you call them and ask if they meant you or them.

... Hot Wheels and Matchbox stocks are trading higher than GM..

... McDonald's is selling the 1/4 ouncer.

... Parents in Beverly Hills fired their nannies and learned their children's names.

... A truckload of Americans was caught sneaking into Mexico .

... Dick Cheney took his stockbroker hunting.

... Motel Six won't leave the light on anymore.

... The Mafia is laying off judges.

... Exxon-Mobil laid off 25 Congressmen.

... Congress says they are looking into the Bernard Madoff scandal. Oh Great!!
The guy who made $50 Billion disappear is being investigated by the people who made
$1.5 Trillion disappear!

And, finally...

I was so depressed last night thinking about the economy, wars, jobs, my savings, Social Security, retirement funds, etc., I called the Suicide Lifeline. I got a call center in Pakistan , and when I told them I was suicidal, they got all excited, and asked if I could drive a truck.



*g*


WG

Beldin: Too weird. I hope FB
fixes that soon.

valMichael - You are correct in what Wilde meant—we value things more when they cost us. I think, however, you misinterpreted Chesterton. He didn't say, "We can be thankful we're not Oscar Wilde." He said not being Oscar Wilde is a price we pay for finding the value in sunsets. Now, I know zip about Oscar Wilde, whether being him is something that would fall in the plus or minus category. Chesterton seems to consider it a plus. If I had to guess, I'd say he meant being Wilde in intellect and aesthetic, not actually being him. I may be wrong.

Adri - Same thing. Can't comment on your post; no box for me to post to your wall. The same thing happened to me on Fenric's wall when I tried to wish him a happy birthday a week or so ago.

Beldin Assuming that Chesterson got the statement he quotes from O. Wilde correct, he's misintreprets what is said; since GKC was such an intelligent and deliberate man, I think it's misinterpreted delibertly. Oscar Wilde does NOT say "I do not value sunseta." He's speaking in genearlities about how people value things, and one of those things people do not really value, in particular, is sunsets. He's making the point that if people had to pay for things that are free and ubiquitous, they might just value them more.

While there are many reasons to be thankful that we are not Oscar Wilde, this deliberate misinterpretation of what he is saying is not one of them. :)

eta
Christopher Marlowe I did indeed! Even read part of a journal article on conic sections based on a hyperboloid of revolution. I'm now listening to "Pipe Dream", a radio show of classical organ music and drinking a hot coffee mocha (my way).

Christopher Marlowe: eewwwww!
ok, ok, just give the puppy its eyes
back! sheesh!

eta: Beldin: Can you try FB again and let me know if you still have
trouble? Thanks!

Adri I understood you alright before I wrote the fic. I was hoping the rule could be bent a little.

*puppy eyes*

valMichael I hope you enjoyed Pi day!

Happy Birthday Buffyenta, SherBear, & Tiamat

Beldin: huh, weird about FB.

Christopher Marlowe: My bad
for not explaining well. The prompt
phrase has to be used as a phrase (as
opposed to the prompt words which can
be used in any order and separately).
Next time :)

Christopher Marlowe-Very well-done.

Today is Sunday, March 14, 2010 C.E.

Happy PI (Π) Day!

We have Three (3) Birthdays!

Buffyenta
SherBear
Tiamat

Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
¡ Buffyenta, SherBear, & Tiamat !

If you want on the list, E-mail Birthdays and use Subject: Bronze Birthday.

Late, so very late

Christopher Marlowe - Liked your flash fic. Not gonna tell you which prompt word you left out. lol.

Mrs.Beasley - We're in the Central Time Zone. You had another hour.

Adri - LOL at your "stinkin' daylight" post on Fb. Fb won't let me comment on it.

Beldin, Algerina, The more you know!

Adri A stitch in time


Sura accidentally pricked her finger with the needle. She immediately stuck in her mouth to keep any drops from landing on the the robe she was working on. She started it at the beginning of the year and she needed it done in time. A stitch in time saves nine, you know. The thread was so fine and delicate and the needle so thin. But she knew with propert sewing and stitching the garment would will be perfect.

After all, Father Time deserves the best.

Flash Fic 3. Same as before, 8
minutes, any genre, any subject, must
use all prompt words or prompt
phrase. "A stitch in time"

Beldin-I wasn't aware of that either.

Adriana-I was at my daughter's all day. I've been catching up on emails, doing modly stuff for a livejournal community and now I'm reading a Ethan/Wesley fic at Male Slash Minis.

42 minutes left to say this.

Happy Pi Day, valMichael!

Beldin: I did not know that
either.

Menomegirl: Absolutely no
good Not much. Me=boring. What
have you been up to?

I did not know Peter Graves and James Arness were brothers.

Beldin-Hee!

Adri-Hihihihihi! Whatca been doing?

Menomegirl: hihihi!

Leather Jacket: uh huh.
First you wouldn't hug me, then
this... ;)

Beldin - That is incredible. I love his work - he's best known for the Portrait of Dorian Gray, but he was a playwright, and a poet, and he wrote incredibly dark fairy tales as well. I just love him.

Christopher Marlowe - Yeah, he's always remarkably clever. I think if I had a time machine, the first thing I would change is stop Oscar Wilde from being imprisoned. After he was, he refused to write, (except for one poem) because he said the joy of creation had left him.

Beldin That's what I like most about the series, that twist.

medusacascade I just keep being impressed by his wit in his plays.

medusacascade - The Oscar Wilde Society of America

Don't know where the rest of my name went. I'm B, of course. Don't tell Faith she got it wrong.


medusacascade - I don't think I've read any Oscar Wilde. Chesterton does mention him in the book I'm reading. In the chapter I was quoting from, in fact. He was talking about accepting limits to have or achieve something good; paying for our blessings...

"Oscar Wilde said that sunsets were not valued because we could not pay for sunsets. But Oscar Wilde was wrong; we can pay for sunsets. We can pay for them by not being Oscar Wilde."

Menomegirl - No snakes in my throat.

Christopher Marlowe - I like it a lot. Third disc. That has the story about the wings, doesn't it. Remember me saying they took something generally considered a good thing (wings, desire for freedom) and turned it upside down into something bad? I thought that was a clever story. It's told differently in the manga.

Beldin, Christopher Marlowe - I really hope there's a Wilde society. As far as I'm concerned, he's the epitome of a perfect writer.

Beldin I didn't know there was a Chesterson Society. Groupies for everybody, I guess.

Finished the third XXXHolic dvd and it is still a fascinating series.

Did Beldin barf up a snake and break the Bronze? ETA: Nope. Looks like it was Leather Jacket who did.

Christopher Marlowe - Thanks. I didn't know there was such a thing. Not that I'm going to join. I like him but I don't like him *that* much. I mainly started reading his books because he was a main influence on C.S. Lewis. And you can tell. A lot of Lewis' arguments and examples sound like Chesterton's.

wolfguard - Truth be told, I'm rather unsure. It's just a random thing I learned for debate, but I think fairly far back.
*checks book* Yeah, even with Shotoku Taishi (574-622 AD), there was no true concept of individual rights, simply of humanity, and the individual who pursues individual goals at community expense is considered evil. So it seems there's always been a community-focus other than an individual one.

wolfguard, Christopher Marlowe - I actually read pride and prejudice and zombies. I have to say, I preferred it more than the original, but I was never an Austen fan. It did manage not to sound too ridiculous or corny, however, which is nice.

Leather Jacket - Hmm, that's interesting. Yeah, if I remember correctly, in the Qu'ran different languages are as another test to see if we can work together, and to teach to get past differences. At least in what I remember reading, although I haven't read the full Qu'ran, and only a translation - I'm not good enough in Arabic to read it in the original form.

And I wish. I'm for universal healthcare in which I think that it should be done... I just don't think we have the right method yet. And I'd prefer we worry about our educational system first.

Beldin I hope valMichael does, because it is Pi Day!

In light of the excerpts from Chesterson..

Chesterson tv

Leather Jacket - Maybe if you *could* barf up a snake it would take care of your throat problems.

Christopher Marlowe - Wonder how long it'll take the others to figure it out.

Whew...the beta is back!

Hallelujah!!!

Remember folks

Daylight Savings Time

[h]SPRING FORWARD, FALL BACK![/H3]

lostinamerica : There were several movies this year that "everyone" was talking about, including at least two that were up for best picture: Avatar and The Blind Side. Thing is, sometimes everyone is talking about a movie because it's rubbish. Somtimes, everyone is talking about a movie that's overrated.
(I'm not saying either of these things about either of these movies because I have not seen them.)

Adri : Well, I might have barfed up a snake, but my throat has been giving me problems.

medusacascade : In the bible, the different languages (at least) come about because God wants to prevent people from working together (and thus "reaching heaven" on their own power).

wolfguard, Christopher Marlowe : I know I read War and Remembrance, so I'm pretty sure I read Winds of War. Wouk wrote brilliantly.

Beldin : I don't believe wolfguard was talking about baths (wherein indoor plumbing would be a technological advancement) but of people's attitudes about baths (wherein superstition was replaced with scientific understanding).
Note that you can still get disease from bathing in a public bathhouse if you're not careful. It's likely that when the English thought that bathing would give you "the flux" that it actually would (due to the unsanitary water being used).

medusacascade 2 : It's possible that a person could create a system of universal health care that would allow the individuals free will ... as long as that person isn't a politician ... or a medical professional.

Safarigirl : If the people on your facebook friends list don't sound like adults ... :-p
I prefer this forum format, mostly because I can figure out whether I "like" someone (want to be friends with them) by reading their posts, and because all posts are open to everyone. I use both because there are people here I'll only see here and there are people there I'll only see there.
Also, the conversations here are more fluid. Sometimes, I have to go back through several earlier posts on facebook to find a comment someone made to a post (i.e. status) much more recently. Other times, I won't bother commenting on a post because I figure no one is going to go back that far to find it.

woflguard I do believe there will be a movie adaptation of that, as well as for Pride and Prejudice and Zombies.

Drive-By


Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter (Amazon)

Oh, how I wish I'd thought of this idea. *g*


medusacascade,

How old? *g* Oscar Wilde said ~ the trouble with Chinese history is there's too much of it. *g*


Beldin,

You're right, I misunderstood what he was saying. If I understand now, he was saying the dead get to 'vote' when the living attend to tradition? I've no problem with this, though one wonders what stake the dead have in the issues of the living. That said, I do not believe tradition should be lightly disregarded. OTOH, I do not think the thoughts, feelings and practices of the dead should have a veto over the decisions of the living.

Returning to abortion ...

((I suspect those Westerners who support abortion/pro-choice, but are repelled by Chinese aborting delivered babies¹ feel this way for one or more of three reasons:

1. Society is telling the individual Chinese woman what to do (though a given individual Chinese woman might agree with the abortion).

2. Baby girls are aborted/killed for being girls.

3. In the reported case, the child was tossed in the slop bucket immediately after being delivered. The vast majority of abortions in this country are done during the first 12 weeks.² Many people do not see or believe a fetus 0-12 weeks old is equivalent to baby just delivered. In saying this, I'm not expressing a personal belief, but stating what I believe to be true of the Americans whose reactions you find inconsistent.

¹ Abortion, as a word, suggest a process is stopped before its completion. When we use 'abortion,' we're talking about aborting the process that begins with fertilization and ends with delivery. Once a child is delivered from the mother, then tossing the child in the trash is not abortion, it's killing. If one is against abortion, this is sophistic distinction. Aborting a pregnancy is killing a child; however, many people do feel there's a difference between aborting a three-week fetus and a nine-month child (neonate?). We often hear people say abortion is not a good thing, but it's a woman's right to make the decision for themselves. To me, this suggest people are trying to resolve conflicting thoughts and feelings and it makes some uncomfortable.

² I'd not be surprised if most Chinese abortions were also conducted earlier in the pregnancy.))



Night All

WG

Christopher Marlowe - It's fun. And, sometimes, you can find some great stuff.

Happy Birthday wishes to Jenny68, Lone Star Chemist, Manx, Opus, & Potters76

SafariGirl
We are intelligent adults of many opinions and many tolerances even those of us who can't spell. We love the talk and enjoy the silences. Face book is not for me

meduscacascade, Beldin You guys make me want to go to a used bookstore tomorrow!

medusacascade Thank you! I'm reading a manga Titled 'Gestalt', but I didnt' know why they called it that. It makes a teensy more sense now.

I do play some facebook games, mostly Farmville by myself or Lexulous with a friend. But I 'talk' daily with folks here on the baord.

DaddyCatALSO - Yes, sadly, I am talking about Joyce, whose Portrait I love, but is giving me a headache now.

I think, as far as interpretation goes, a novel shouldn't be clear cut - which is one thing I have against Ayn Rand - but the author's view should be relatively accessable with analysis, although some things ought to differ through interpretation. After all, it's a work of art, not an essay.

Safarigirl - I'd have to agree with Marlowe. I have a facebook that I frequent, but I don't talk to half the people on there. The advantage of an open forum, like the beta is that you can actually talk to everyone. Also, less annoying Twilight fan girls.

wolguard - I was thinking more old China.

Christopher Marlowe - In German, it means "essence or shape of an entity's complete form."

Beldin - I practically live at used book stores. I hit up a half price books pretty much every weekend (my goal is to own my own, rather large, private library before I die)

Hmm, what does Gestalt mean?

Safarigirl-I don't have a Facebook, nor do I intend to get one. I don't do anything with my myspace; I do have Twitter, though and I find it both amusing and annoying by turns. I like it here and second what Christopher Marlowe said.

Safarigirl I don't post much in facebook. The chat feature is nice when I want to talk to folks who don't post at the beta much.


Facebook isn't so much socializing as acquiring associations and keeping in touch with people. I can have a real conversation on the beta but not on facebook.

Safarigirl - This is so far ahead of Facebook that you can't see it for the dust.

wandering by...

Godd Evening, all!

I have a question to throw out there for anyone to answer who feels like it:

Which do you like better, a forum like the Bronze or a multi-faceted social network site like Facebook?

I've been Facebooking for a year now, and I have to say that I find the Bronze infinitely more restful. There's less chance of making a giant social blunder that can ruin my IRL. Plus, people here sound more like adults.

Old One: I envy you your afternoon in Victoria. I was out there this summer for a conference and I loved it.

Christopher Marlowe & Adri-Top!

Beldin I just got my XXXholic dvd from Netflix.

It sounds like Zebraman 2 will be about as chaotic as the first. Sounds like a kitchen sink approach to moviemaking.

Christopher Marlowe - Just finished Takashi Miike's Zebraman. I don't know just how to describe it. I thought it dull in the beginning and started to turn it off. I'm glad I didn't. Parts were dull; parts were gross; parts were funny; parts were heroic; parts were absurd. One just never knows what you'll get with him.

DaddyCatALSO I'll agree with Beldin on the funniness of that joke!


Adri SIDEWAYS!

Front!!!

Back!!!

The mother of all movie trailer spoofs?

'Eagles are turning People into Horses' (Youtube)



WG

DaddyCatALSO,

Akaka Bill (Honolulu Star Bulletin online)


WG

Drive-By


Beldin,

Noted and will reply, probably later tonight.


DaddyCatALSO,

I second valMichael on 'natural rights.' Unless one's beliefs include divine supernatural beings who grant humans rights, then all rights are the creation of societies and polities.


medusacascade,

I'm not sure what you're referring to as the 'East.' Before its demise, the USSR and its allies were sometimes referred to as the East. The USSR use to say political rights meant nothing without economic rights, e.g. food, housing and healthcare. OTOH, the USSR has been in the ashbin of history for close to twenty years. East Asia sometimes likes to applaud its form of authoritarian capitalism. I imagine there also people who view and judge economies in the light of some eastern worldviews, e.g. Buddhism. Are any of these the 'East' you speak of? Something else?


WG

DaddyCatALSO - Not.

Happy Birthday to Jenny68, Lone Star Chemist, Manx, Opus & Potters76!


Christopher Marlowe-Homemade muffins?

DaddyCatALSO-Not.

Well,

A college junior had suddenly developed a strange, green rash on the insides of her thighs and went to the Student Health Center.

The doctor examined her and asked, "Miss, are you a lesbian?"

"Yes," she answered.

The doctor said, "Tell your girlfriend her earrings are fake."

Is this funny, or not?

Beldin I haven't bought books from a used book store in a while. That is a great deal you got there! I don't usually hit used book stores that often. I'm afraid I would wind up getting more books than I would have space for. *g* But the two for one deal is a good idea.

Christopher Marlowe- I went to our library today and updated my card. But I didn't get anything. I forgot my PDA with the titles of the books I wanted to look for. I stopped by the used paperback bookstore and bought five books: two of C.S. Lewis' Narnia series—Prince Caspian and The Horse and His Boy; Spider Robinson's Callahan's Lady; Ngaio Marsh's Scales of Justice; and Ann Perry's Resurrection Row. This is a bookstore where you can take in old books for two-for-one exchanges by price and keep a credit balance if you don't buy as much as you take in. I haven't been there in more years than I can remember. I think they were still using index cards to keep the balance. Now they are computerized and I still had a balance on record of five dollars. So I got these books for a little over seven dollars.

Happy Birthday to
Jenny68, Lone Star Chemist, Manx, Opus, & Potters76 !

DaddyCatALSO So folks can take whatever meaning they find in any work?

Today is Saturday, March 13, 2010 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!

Jenny68
Lone Star Chemist
Manx
Opus
Potters76

Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
¡ Jenny68, Lone Star Chemist, Manx, Opus, & Potters76 !

If you want on the list, E-mail Birthdays and use Subject: Bronze Birthday.

DaddyCatALSO nobody has a "right" to intrepret a story the way they want to, one simply does so or not. "Rights" have nothing to do with it. Rights are those functions that can be guaranteed or removed by some other agency such as government. It's the same with "Natural Rights". There is no such thing. Who or what will guarantee or enforce any socalled natural right for anyone? Nobody! A "right" that can't be enforced is meaningless.

DaddyCatALSO - D'oh. You must be correct. The title of the book I was talking about is not Ulysses. It's The Odyssy.

AlgerinaThanks but I'm full from the hard salami and processed cheese food on whole wheat I had when I got up.

Beldin I'm pretty sure medusascascade is referring to James Joyce's novel, about which I know little. Are you talking about that or about The Odyessey?

Christopher Marlowe Joy in modest things; I agree it can be taken 2 ways. But it's much to be preferred to anhedonia, which can be dangerous.

medusascascade Fromw aht I've ehard of the vvarious aspects of postmodernism, I'm not fond of many of them, but I'm thinking I should look into reader-response theory. (A cyber friend who posts on some other sites is quite fond of it.)
I came up with a similar idea only I called it "readers' rights." For example a person who is a Christian and supports free enterprise has a "rioght" to find support for his worldview in Max Weber, who was a Socialist, or Ayn Rand, a non-beleiver.

One thing I think is an example of this; for twenty years critics cited the original I nvasion fo the Body-Snatchers as one more of dramatic criticism of the Red Scare of the late 40s-50s. Finally the director said it was actually made to support the anti-Communist efforts. Which seems kinda obvious when you really think about the movie; the menace in the film was, after all, real.

Beldin I vaguely remember that. They were pretty awesome with the special guests on that show.

Christopher Marlowe - Frye was dating a robot version of Lucy Liu.

Beldin Farnsworth. That seems so familiar....

Hah! You quoted Futurama!

Beldin I'm doing a bit of reading this morning. Should be able to return all of the books later today. I'm not planning on doing to much other than the usual and meeting with my women's group.

Algerina - Don't really have an agenda. Probably some dishwashing and some carpet vacuuming unless something I want to do more comes along.

Good morning, Christopher Marlowe.

"Oh, dear! She's stuck in an infinite loop and he's an idiot. Oh, well. That's love for you." – Prof. Hubert J. Farnsworth

Good morning Algerina, Beldin!

Mufffins with honey. Yum!

Beldin
I went with the cheese, tomato and mushroom myself

What is on your agenda today?

Here now.

Algerina - Mmmm. Sounds good. I'll have the garden omelet and coffee, please.

Good Morning Beta!

Pease join me at the bar for Saturday morning breakfast

We have eggs, omlettes made to order. Sausage, bacon, ham sorry no kippers. toast, muffins, honey and jam. Juice coffee and teas. And for the strong of spirits. Bloodly Marys

for the extreme eaters there are breakfast pizzas and burritos

Eat up

you need your strength to set all your clocks ahead tonight

Time for me to head out. Good night and have a pleasant tomorrow.

Beldin Yes, I did catch the drift quite well!

Christopher Marlowe - Agreeage. And I also am afraid that childhood imagination is being stunted. There's no need to imagine a box is a race car when your parents buy one with an electric motor.


Bad example, maybe, but you get my drift.

medusacascade - "Remember, no matter where you go, there you are."

Beldin - I can definitely see the validity of some that in certain aspects. Not regarding tech, but in politics and art... well, the farther you go, there you are.

As far as reader response theory goes, I buy into it in some regards. I mean, you can't say that Animal Farm is pro-communism. But when it comes down to vaguer, more specific and unexplained imagery, that the author never reveals, that's when I think reader response theory is valid.

wolfguard, Beldin - One of the things I find interesting about East vs. West society is that typically the Eastern view of freedom means having equal oppurtunity, while the Western view means having absolute free will. That is, you can't be free in the East if you don't have universal healthcare, and you can't be free in the west if you do.

Since all the cool kids are doing it tonight. *g*

Many children today are greatly to be pitied because too much is done for them and dictated to them and they are deprived of the learning processes. We seem to have dropped into an age of entertaining, a breathless going from one sensation to another, whether it be mechanical toys for the five-year-old or moving-picture plays for the sixteen-year-old. It not only destroys their power to think, but also makes happiness, contentment, and resourcefulness impossible. At seventeen, life is spoken of as so dull if there is not something doing every waking hour.?

By Prof. Mark Liberman (Language Log), from Gail Harrison, Modern Psychology in its Relation to Discipline, 53 Journal of Proceedings and Lectures 658 (1915).

Happy birthday, Android, BuBBles, Cordy101, Poki, Rakshasa, Serina, Terra!

Leather Jacket's Limerick

There once was man named VanCamp
Whose cellar was just a bit damp
while installing a sub pump
he discovered a strange bump
the body of Rosemary DeCamp

LostinAmerica
that is a horror. Healthy peeps!

medusacascade - Opinions, yes; convictions, no. And I've never held to the reader response theory. The intent of the author is trump for me.

And, you and wolfguard both missed the intent of the original Chesterton quote.

"It is obvious that tradition is only democracy extended through time...Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who merely happen to be walking about. All democrats object to men being disqualified by the accident of birth; tradition objects to their being disqualified by the accident of death"

Democracy – everyone having equal voice. He is not saying count the voices of the dead (tradition) as something superior; he is saying don't discount it because it is in the past. "Tradition" is not a dirty word. *g*

ETA:

wolfguard - That still doesn't explain why the Chinese version generates such condemnation.

Yay Wiccachick!


Happy Birthday SweePer!




Christopher Marlowe,

I believe it is practiced in those countries.



medusacascade,

I'm not a fan of literary theory when academics proclaim they know what the writer really meant. *g* I do believe stories can be like inkblot tests, what people take from them often comes from within. That said, if there is a truth to a story, it's what the writer says is the truth. *g*

Beldin,

It's true, though I do think there's a difference which reflects the different traditions.

((Morals and feelings aside, preindustrial agrarian societies tend to prefer boys before girls. In a societies where famine is always a possibility and where there is no social safety net, boys are more valuable. Traditions reflect it.

In the modern West, abortion is not seen as a social necessity, but an individual right. The West values the individual. This was not always true. Once upon a time, an individual's value depended on his or her social role. With the coming of Christianity - and it s roots in Judaism - this began to change. Since God created and valued each individual equally, so should society.))



Good Night to All

WG

medusacascade - I read Ulysses years ago. It *was* an effort to read but I liked the action when he finally got home. What I remember most was saying that he was like Buffy—always whining that the gods were against him. I like Tennyson's poem of that poem much better – but maybe because I knew the story behind it.


wolfguard - I have one question that I hesitate to post. It just strikes me as curious...The tradition you mention is worse than abortion, in which gender is not an issue, how? The results and motives are the same. We have the same tradition and yet the Chinese are observed with horror and condemnation.

wolfguard I don't think the problem is confined to China. I thought India or Pakistan have a similar problem. I think the gender ratio there is already skewed and will probably worsen.

Beldin, wolfguard - I think in certain matters (such as especially philosphy) your opinion really can change from half past three to half past four. One of the most interesting things in English, for me, is reader response theory - basically, any interpretation is controlled by the reader, not necessarily by the author, so they're all different but valid - and the problem with philosphy, or tradition, is that it simply isn't factual. So I think in a certain way that giving any authority to philosphy or tradition is a little absurd. Newer methods of thinking may appeal to us more, but after a point, we're all just saying the same thing in different language. I suppose what I'm trying to say is that in and out of itself, tradition may simply be a more antiquated way of saying or viewing what we believe in, simply in a different manner. Or, basically: People and their ideas don't really change, they're just variants on a limited amount of themes.

DaddyCatALSO - Yeah, I usually start something and never finish it. I've heard it's a nice experience to finish, though, so I'm trying...

Has anyone read Ulysses? I'm currently fighting my way through it and it's become more of an uphill battle than a book - is it worth it?

Beldin,

The following account is of infanticide. It's text from The Economist, March 6, 2010. I originally heard it on the BBC.

((XIANRAN XUE, a Chinese writer, describes visiting a peasant family in the Yimeng area of Shandong province. The wife was giving birth. 'We had scarcely sat down in the kitchen', she writes, 'when we heard a moan of pain from the bedroom next door ... the cries from the inner room grew louder - and abruptly stopped. There was a loud sob, and then a man's gruff voice said accusingly: 'Useless thing!'

'Suddenly, I thought, I heard a slight movement in the slops pail behind me,' Miss Xinran remembers. 'To my absolute horror, I saw a tiny foot poking out of the pail. The midwife must have dropped that tiny baby alive into the slops pail! I nearly threw myself at it, but two policemen (who had accompanied me) held my shoulders in a firm grip. 'Don't move, you can't save it, it's too late.'

'But that's ... murder ... and you're the police!' The little foot was still now. The policemen held on to me for a few more minutes. 'Doing a baby girl is not a big thing around here, (an) older woman said comfortingly. 'That's a living child,' I said in a shaking voice pointing at the slops pail. 'It's not a child,' she corrected me. 'It's a girl baby, and we can't keep it. Around these parts, you can't get by without a son. Girl babies don't count.'[/i]))

Now, some might say this reflects the Chinese government's 'One Child' policy, and it does to an extent. OTOH, the practice predates the policy and the 1949 Revolution. I've read a memoir of a European who visited China in the 1800s and spoke of signs being put beside ponds saying ~ No Drowning Girl Babies Here.

So, there's a Chinese tradition accepting the killing of girl babies.

Female Infanticide (BBC)


ETA I wrote and posted the above before seeing and reading your latest post.

WG

wolfguard - From the next chapter:

"An imbecile habit has arisen in modern controversy of saying that such and such a creed can be held in one age but cannot be held in another. Some dogma, we are told, was credible in the twelfth century, but is not credible in the twentieth. You might as well say that a certain philosophy can be believed on Mondays, but cannot be believed on Tuesdays. You might as well say of a view of the cosmos that it was suitable to half-past three, but not suitable to half-past four. What a man can believe depends upon his philosophy, not upon the clock or the century. If a man believes in unalterable natural law, he cannot believe in any miracle in any age. If a man believes in a will behind law, he can believe in any miracle in any age. Suppose, for the sake of argument, we are concerned with a case of thaumaturgic healing. A materialist of the twelfth century could not believe it any more than a materialist of the twentieth century. But a Christian Scientist of the twentieth century can believe it as much as a Christian of the twelfth century. It is simply a matter of a man's theory of things. Therefore in dealing with any historical answer, the point is not whether it was given in our time, but whether it was given in answer to our question."

*g*


Christopher Marlowe - No, your life is pretty fantastic if an envelope can excite you.

Yay wiccachick!

Happy Birthday to Android, BuBBles, Cordy101, Poki, Rakshasa, Serina, SweePer & Terra!

Did I see someone mention chocolate-covered Peeps? I just wanted to say....Ewwwwwwwwww, YUCK.

Beldin It spiced up the day for sure. The envelope the letter was of a kind I've never run across, very fancy and felt like it was interwoven with fabric.

My life is pretty dull if an envelope can excite me. *g*

Beldin,

Maybe it's the wolf being guarded against? *g*

"It is obvious that tradition is only democracy extended through time"

Once one moves past simple hunter-gatherer groups, there isn't much democracy to be seen for a very long time.

Scholars, some, like to point to the Magna Carta as one of the first documents on freedom, but it essentially was a document through which nobles informed the king what were the limits of his powers. Various groups got their say on political decisions, i.e. democratic voice, when what they were or did became too important to TPTB to be ignored or put down. This usually happens in stages and as a society becomes more complex.

I had an economics professor who told how village 'democracy' worked in the village in India where he had worked (c. 1960s). The contending groups would meet in the village square and stake out different corners. Next everyone counted the number of men - note men - in each group. Finally, they factored in which group had the biggest sticks. *g*


WG

Yay, wiccachick!

Happy birthday, SweePer!


Happy birthday, Android, BuBBles, Cordy101, Poki, Rakshasa, Serina, Terra!

Christopher Marlowe - You've mentioned that sister city before but I'd forgotten it. That's so cool.

Beldin I did get one cool thing today. A letter postmarked from Japan. Rapid City has a Sister City in Nikko City, Japan. The letter writer is some political science student who wanted to know how the city and city councilmembers worked. It looks like he sent similar letters to my fellow councilmembers.

wolfguard - *g* I didn't say it, he did. You'll have to deal with his argument there, not mine. ETA: "It is obvious that tradition is only democracy extended through time"

ETA: You can guard the wold as well as the wolf. Or the wolf can guard the wold. Whichever way you want to take it.

Beldin,

Democracy does not have deep roots in social tradition.


ETA That should be, 'wolfguard.' *g*


WG

Beldin This morning I had my Green Cities meeting, which was at 8 am. I was pretty much unprepared for it so after the meeting I had to come home and scramble to get some stuff done before the Monday deadline.

I went to work at noon and they were doing sort of a St Pats day celebration. Green stuff everywhere and folks got a green drink, which wasn't very good.

Work went pretty smoothly and I got some free nachos during break time.

I swung by and got some groceries to last me the weekend. I called my mom up to see if she returned from her week's trip to Montana. She has and she enjoyed it.

I'm at Netflix now, doing some adding, subtracting and reshuffling of queue numbers. A lot of math involved.

I have no Netflix dvds at the moment, but I do have a dvd of XXXholic coming.

Another one from the same source, same chapter:

  "Any one can see it who will simply read Grimms Fairy Tales or the fine collections of Mr. Andrew Lang. For the pleasure of pedantry I will call it the Doctrine of Conditional Joy. Touchstone talked of much virtue in an if; according to elfin ethics all virtue is in an if. The note of the fairy utterance always is, You may live in a palace of gold and sapphire, if you do not say the word cow; or You may live happily with the Kings daughter, if you do not show her an onion. The vision always hangs upon a veto. All the dizzy and colossal things conceded depend upon one small thing withheld. All the wild and whirling things that are let loose depend upon one thing that is forbidden. Mr. W. B. Yeats, in his exquisite and piercing elfin poetry, describes the elves as lawless; they plunge in innocent anarchy on the unbridled horses of the air

Ride on the crest of the dishevelled tide,
And dance upon the mountains like a flame.

  It is a dreadful thing to say that Mr. W. B. Yeats does not understand fairyland. But I do say it. He is an ironical Irishman, full of intellectual reactions. He is not stupid enough to understand fairyland. Fairies prefer people of the yokel type like myself; people who gape and grin and do as they are told. Mr. Yeats reads into elfland all the righteous insurrection of his own race. But the lawlessness of Ireland is a Christian lawlessness, rounded on reason and justice. The Fenian is rebelling against something he understands only too well; but the true citizen of fairyland is obeying something that he does not understand at all. In the fairy tale an incomprehensible happiness rests upon an incomprehensible condition. A box is opened, and all evils fly out. A word is forgotten, and cities perish. A lamp is lit, and love flies away. A flower is plucked, and human lives are forfeited. An apple is eaten, and the hope of God is gone.
  This is the tone of fairy tales, and it is certainly not lawlessness or even liberty, though men under a mean modern tyranny may think it liberty by comparison. People out of Portland Gaol might think Fleet Street free; but closer study will prove that both fairies and journalists are the slaves of duty. Fairy godmothers seem at least as strict as other godmothers. Cinderella received a coach out of Wonderland and a coachman out of nowhere, but she received a command which might have come out of Brixtonthat she should be back by twelve. Also, she had a glass slipper; and it cannot be a coincidence that glass is so common a substance in folk-lore. This princess lives in a glass castle, that princess on a glass hill; this one sees all things in a mirror; they may all live in glass houses if they will not throw stones. For this thin glitter of glass everywhere is the expression of the fact that the happiness is bright but brittle, like the substance most easily smashed by a housemaid or a cat....
  Remember, however, that to be breakable is not the same as to be perishable. Strike a glass, and it will not endure an instant; simply do not strike it, and it will endure a thousand years. Such, it seemed, was the joy of man, either in elfland or on earth; the happiness depended on NOT DOING SOMETHING which you could at any moment do and which, very often, it was not obvious why you should not do. Now, the point here is that to ME this did not seem unjust. If the millers third son said to the fairy, Explain why I must not stand on my head in the fairy palace, the other might fairly reply, Well, if it comes to that, explain the fairy palace. If Cinderella says, How is it that I must leave the ball at twelve? her godmother might answer, How is it that you are going there till twelve? If I leave a man in my will ten talking elephants and a hundred winged horses, he cannot complain if the conditions partake of the slight eccentricity of the gift. He must not look a winged horse in the mouth. And it seemed to me that existence was itself so very eccentric a legacy that I could not complain of not understanding the limitations of the vision when I did not understand the vision they limited. The frame was no stranger than the picture. The veto might well be as wild as the vision; it might be as startling as the sun, as elusive as the waters, as fantastic and terrible as the towering trees." – G.K. Chesterton

Christopher Marlowe - Got the last disc of Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy and Miike's Zebraman in the mail today.

Christopher Marlowe - About 30 minutes. I was beat today. Came in, sat down and got warm and went to sleep.

I had a very aggravating day. How was yours?

Beldin Get home from work early?

Here now. Just woke up in my chair to find everything dark.

wolfguard - Your car example doesn't fit the subject. Of course technology changes. In fact, both of your examples were of the physical. Chesterton was talking about abstract ideas like democracy – not cars and baths.


medusacascade - Don't think I've read The Napoleon of Notting Hill. I've read several Father Brown short stories (from Project Gutenberg) and most of Everlasting Man.

"but as time goes on, what we believe and what's true seem to get farther and farther apart, and newer minds appear that may be no more accurate, but that speak to us better than the traditional ones"   So what we believe, and what we're told, doesn't have to be true as long as it appeals to us?

Tried to come up with a fitting HHGttG quote but couldn't.

lostinamerica Chocolate covered peeps? Not sure about that. I got a box of wheat thins, parmesan and basil flavor. Not very good.

Algerina--My husband brought home some dark chocolate-covered Peeps. Can we no longer enjoy a simple Peep without having to cover it in dark chocolate in a misguided attempt to make it healthier ;)

*sigh* They weren't very good either.


Leather Jacket--Many times there is a movie that everyone is talking about, so even if I wasn't planning on seeing it I will. That's what I meant by making an impression on people. Was there one movie this past year that generated a lot of buzz that kept building as more and more people saw it? I think Avatar would qualify since so darn many people saw it, but I guess I'm looking for a movie that generated a lot of buzz with the regular folk which the critics also liked.


Yay! wiccachick!


Happy Birthday SweePer!


Happy Belated Birthday KAM! Sorry I missed it!

wolfguard Thank you! Finally heading home! It has been a wacky afternoon.

Christopher Marlowe,

Winds of War is set in the few years leading up to the US' entry into WWII. It actually ends shortly after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. The rest of the story is told in War and Rememberance.

(ETA I've just read Wikipedia's article on the two novels and the two mini-series. The first novel begins a month or three before the German invasion of Poland in September 1939 and not a 'few years' as I have above. Also, interesting cast note. A minor role, the wife of one of Pug Henry's sons, was played by Sharon Stone.)

Herman Wouk, the author, provided historical context by using excerpts of a history of WW2 as seen through the eyes of a fictional German general.¹

Wouk served as US Naval officer in WWII.


¹ "Pug" Henry, the main protagonist, is assigned as a military attache to the US embassy in Berlin, prior to the war, and it was there that he met the German general. After the war, the general wrote the 'history' and Pug bought the translation rights. Pug adds his own commentary to the general's, so the reader gets two fictional characters' points of view of the war, one German and one American.

WG

wolfguard It's been ages since I've heard the Winds of War. I think that would be a better book to read than the fantasy book I'm reading now, which has puns to the Nth power in it.

Tea Time is a green punch. I don't know what's in it, but it isn't all that good.

medusacascade Thanks, I've heard of NaNoRiMo. Since I was 17 I've been coming up with lots of excuses for startign writing projects and not finsihing them; I'm 54 now and still doing it.

Yay wiccachick!

Happy Birthday SweePer!

*Kinda hurt that no one bothered to barf up a snake but at least Leather Jacket inquired. and if anyone's interested, still deaded9*

Christopher Marlowe - Yeah... I don't know. I have a partial bet on the Merlin, and I'm still debating who'll get the Sword.

Also, in idiocy of the United States: In 1965, the Supreme Court had to overturn a law stating that a married couple couldn't use contraceptives. In 2004, a law making sodomy illegal (only in Texas...)

Book Friday

The Virgin Suicide, by Eugenides

Drive-By

Old One,

Thank you. I will take a look.


Wow - just heard the theme from the TV mini-series The Winds of War from 1983. It's been that long? And I've read the novel. *g*


Looking at an article by AARP¹ on politics and health care. It list some of the special-interest groups' donations ...

1. The largest contribution from a single organization: $144.5 million from the US Chamber of Commerce. They opposed mandating employer provided health care and closing the business tax break for health expenses.

2. Hospitals and doctors donated $200 million to 'block' expanding Medicare to those between 55 and 65.

3. Trial lawyers donated $63 million to block limits on medical malpractice lawsuits.

4. The Insurance industry spent $166.4 million to oppose a single-payer system and minimized cuts in Medicare Advantage.

My favorite - The food and beverage industry spent $30 million to stop a 3 cent per bottle excise tax on soft drinks. The tax was an effort to cut down on obesity by increasing the cost of drinking sugar carbonated water.

Eye-balling the expenditures, it's a total of around $625 million dollars. How does this amount compare to various federal expenditures? How does it compare to the revenues and profits of the various organizations?


¹ Someone tore out the article, so can't cite it. The bottom of the page says March 2010 bulletin. The article notes AARP does not contribute to political campaigns, but did spend $21 million on federal lobbying.


"The world has grown old. The rainfall and sun's warmth are both diminishing, the metals are nearly exhausted..." - Cyprian, 250 AD

Quoted in The End by Marq de Villiers



WG

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: Money
Question: Where does the US keep it's supply of silver?
Answer: West Point Mint

Trivia Goldfingers: DaddyCatALSO,
Trivia Sticky Fingers: notsoShyGirl, Algerina, Leather Jacket, Mrs.Beasley, valMichael, Old One (LOL)

notsoShyGirl you were darned close as it was once called the Fort Knox of Silver

Book Friday - Air Apparent by Piers Anthony Piffles of puns.

Four and Twenty Blackbirbs by Cherie Priest looks to be a better book.

Book Friday

William Stevenson - Spymistress

Martha Grimes - Hotel Paradise

Leather Jacket's Limerick

There once was man named VanCamp
Whose cellar was just a bit damp
So his vampire coffin
was gettin' all soggin'
To another hole he must decamp

High-speed zoom through

Christopher Marlowe Sorry I missed you last night. I was packing my horses & watching F4: Rise of the Silver Surfer. Kinda lost track of time.

I borrowed one of Mom's huge totes & got all but 3 of my OFs into it. Packed all the rest into one of the 20 gallon totes, got my sales horses & books into the 10...and then realized I missed a model! So now I have to use the other 20 gallon, 'cause there's no room in the 10.

Off to shower & dress, then pack my clothes & repack the sales tote. Then I'm ready to go. Taking 61 (Was going to be 62, but Chaos Theory has a cracked leg. And not even the one that was broken when I sent him to be painted.) and hoping to buy Kathleen's new stallion there. I have a tag (Daesilme - Elvish for "moonlight shadow") and a breed card (Iberian Sporthorse - cross between a Morgan & an Andalusian) made out for him.

Book Friday

"Traitor to the Blood" - book 4 of the Noble Dead series by Barb & JC Hendee

Soon: "Cat's Claw," book 2 of the Calliope Reaper-Jones trilogy by our own Amber Benson

Zoom, zoom

Algerina I had no idea the US stored silver, but it makes sense, since we mint coins.

medusacascade It could be anyone, I think. I would really like to know more about the Asian vampires that was mentioned in passing in one book.

Happy Birthday Android, BuBBles, Cordy101, Poki, Rakshasa, Serina, SweePer, & Terra !

Yay wiccachick!

Happy Birthday wishes to Android, BuBBles, Cordy101, Poki, Rakshasa, Serina, SweePer, & Terra

Trivia Girl - Silverado

Leather Jacket's Limericks

There once was a man named VanCamp
Whose basement was just a bit damp
In the middle of the night
He turned on the light
And saw it had turned into a swamp.. (ok ok, it doesn't really rhyme... ) ;0)

wolfguard - I've been watching a fascinating series on our CBC network (available on line at cbc.ca) called Love, Hate, Propaganda, about how propaganda was used in the Second World war by all sides. Excellent so far.

Christopher Marlowe, imemerald - I love the Dresden Files. I got to meet Jim Butcher two years ago, which was utterly amazing. Who do you think is on the Black Council?

Beldin - I'd love to read Chesterton's arguments - he's always clever, and pretty convincing.

Leather Jacket - Yeah, I'm counting the comics, since Joss is exec-producing it.

DaddyCatALSO - I love the New Earth idea. I think in the Bible (at least in the Qu'ran), God's explanation for all the different tribes and cultures is to make us work together. Obviously, we're doing a great job. /sarcasm

But that sounds really interesting. Have you ever heard of NaNo? It might give you a chance to just hammer a novel out, at the very least (even though they never end up any good), and I'd love to read it if you do.

Yay wiccachick!

Today is Friday, March 12, 2010 C.E.

We have EIGHT (8) Birthdays!

Android
BuBBles
Cordy101
Poki
Rakshasa
Serina
SweePer
Terra

Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
¡ Android, BuBBles, Cordy101, Poki, Rakshasa, Serina, SweePer, & Terra !

If you want on the list, E-mail Birthdays and use Subject: Bronze Birthday.

Yay ¡ Wiccachick !

Trivia Girl the US Mint stores it somewhere.

Sees Adri fall over deaded.
Whose turn is it to barf up the snake?

Thanks for the yays yesterday: wolfguard, imemerald, buffyrat, Menomegirl, notsoShyGirl, Adri, valMichael, Christopher Marlowe, Octoquad, Algerina, Old One, neonate, KAM, lostinamerica, and of course YayOfTheDay

buffyrat : I think you have me confused with someone else, like someone with talent.

Trivia Girl : At the Bellagio, in Las Vegas, NV.

valMichael : Well, if he's dead, why would he be making me a roast?
(cc Algerina)

medusacascade : Buffy did end, unless you count the comic books.

Finish the Limerick

Thanks to the folks who played yesterday:
Beautifully done: valMichael
Cleverly done: OldManFan, buffyrat, neonate (twice)
Made me chuckle: Algerina, OldManFan
Nicely done: neonate

Today's Limerick
There once was a man named VanCamp
Whose basement was just a bit damp

medusacascade Japheth or Japhet is the son of Noah in Genesis whose children populated basically the area of what's now Iran. Jamshid is, sort of, the Noah of ancient Persian myth.
You're a bit recent here for this but I used to often talk about solving all kinds of problems by wishing us all to "New Earth," where basically every contending tribe would have its own country, environmental problems would be reversed, etc. And I played around with ideas for fiction set there, still do.
Starting there, I figured a much more flexible idea would be not taking the current world and "fixing" it but instead starting over with a single world of mixed hsitories and so on. That way, I could split up the continets to my own choosing, put any languages or religions or technologies I wanted where I wanted, etc.

So I decidied I'd separate Europe from Asia, split Africa into 3 smaller continents* and Asia into 5 or 6+, sort of following the "paleocontinents" that geologists have figured existed at variosu times in the past, maybe a bit bigger.

For example, Arabia (Including Syria and iRAQ) used to be a separate land mass, so I decided to call that Shem. Then, back in the Paleozoic there was contient the scientists call Cimmeria, which stretched over Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan, and Tibet, plus some other pieces. That name, for variosu reasons, didn't suit me so I figured I'd pick another one, and those were my preferred choices. Just wasn't sure which one sounded best. cc Christopher Marlowe

* Africa Major , Minor, and Crescens,

+ Angara in Siberia/Central Asia, Nangkuo in south China, India, Shem, and Japheth/Jamshid.

Trivia Girl
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits
Silver is kept in the Lone Ranger exhibit at the Texas Ranger Hall of Fame and Museum in Waco, TX ;-D

Trivia girl: In China, with the rest of its wealth.

Late limericocity:

There once was a woman named Blaire
Whose face was unusually fair
So she was not fowl,
Even when changing w for a vowel
But was she poulty? Trivia girl has the answer there.


There once was a woman named Blaire
Whose face was unusually fair.
Since guys want more than looks,
And go for smart gals who read books,
Blaire would flash her War and Peace around with flair.


There once was a woman named Blaire
Whose face was unusually fair.
Well-endowed as an artist, to boot,
She painted a still life of an Anjou.
Guys would always stop by to comment on her pear.

Algerina As slippery as Joss's mind is, he probably toyed with a Newhartesque ending for one of his shows. I came up with one for BtVS with a dark-haired Sarah and Rudolph Martin in the Suzanne Pleshette role. Our wolfguard said if that had really happened he would have thrown away all his tapes.

ETATrivia Girl West Point. Gotta love that Army for security.

Good Morning Everyone,

YAY WICCACHICK

Trivia Girl
The US Mint at DEnver I think. this answer was not goggled

BOOK FRIDAY
The Virgin and The Vampire by K Sparks

Trivia Girl
Ft. Knox

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: Money
Question: Where does the US keep it's supply of silver?

KAM Lemon Twist sounds very good. A Twinings Iced Tea? Not much of a fan of the iced tea, I would have to grow into it like I do with the regular teas.

Good Morning Everyone,

YAY WICCACHICK

Birthday Thanks to: valMichael, neonate, Algerina, notsoShygirl, Christoper Marlowe, Wolfguard, Beldin, Adri, Menomegirl, and IMemerald.

IMemerald: Wow, nice to see you back! Hope you are doing well.
For anyone who might not know, Emerald was in the first group of Bronzers I ever met in person. A group of about half a dozen of us met in Chicago at Borders Bookstore the day after Thanksgiving in 97.

Christopher Marlowe: I got a load of Tea yesterday. Some stock of my normal teas (Lady Grey, Irish Breakfast Tea), but also a new "Lemon Twist" (not bad) and two Teas made specifically for cold-brew, for Iced Teas.
I am very stocked up right now.

KAM
Ty King Fan

TJIM!

The week went by so fast, where did it go?

Good morning beta

Yay wiccachick!

let's hear a great big bronze cheer for wiccachick!

yay wiccachick!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday Day!

notsoShyGirl: *falls over
deaded*

Menomegirl I heard that as well. Not that he'll no longer be involved in Supernatural, but it will allow him to develop new stuff.

Hi imemerald! Wow, I haven't seen you posting in like ages.

Christopher Marlowe-I think SPN did get renewed. I read somewhere that Kripke stepped down as showrunner? But I'm not 100% on that.

Yay Leather Jacket!



Happy Birthday KAM!


Happy Birthday Mark Metcalf!



Good Night to All

WG

imemerald I'm a big fan of the Dresden Files, and loved the tv series. Never got into the audio books, despite James Marsters narrating them.

Not into the Twilight books, but I will be interested to see how they manage to do Breaking Dawn if that gets greenlit.

I think Supernatural is coming back next year, but I don't know if that is official.

I watched Daybreakers at a film festival last year. Not the best movie Iv'e seen, but a VERY intriguing concept that was very well done.

I fell off watching LOST but I'm back to watching it again because it is the final season. I wanna see how it ends.

I haven't had much time to read books these days. I read more comics and manga, maybe because they aren't quite as time consuming. *g*

Christopher Marlowe
How are you? Hmm, besides raising my children I've been reading a lot. I wasn't able to for quite awhile
due to health, but I'm almost back to my old self now *S* The latest book I'm reading is by Kim Harrison in
"The Hollows" series; I really enjoy her books, I also like Lynn Veihl's "Darkyn series". I've also started the
Jim Butcher books, "The Dresden Files" I used to like that very short lived series, the books are
read by James Marsters, so a plus there! And, yes, I'd be reading the Twilight Books, but I've already read
them all ;-) First Twilight movie wasn't great, second movie was better, looking forward to the third, and
hoping they don't screw up the final movie ;-). There's not very many good TV shows on, I enjoy
Supernatural, but that's getting cancelled, I watch Lost but again it's in it's final season. Just saw
Daybreakers, and liked it; looking forward to seeing Alice this weekend. How about yourself? What do you
enjoy? LOL, you got me to ramble ;-) It's been awhile since I rambled ;-)

-Imemerald
;-)

imemerald What have you been up to these days? Any current tv shows you like? Books you have read? Movies you have seen?

Beldin,

On the ~ who decides when things must change ~

Now and then over the three decades (?!), I've read in magazines, such as Popular Mechanics, articles reviewing 'myths' on car mechanics and driving. The myths were based on reasons once solid, but no longer applicable, because of new technologies.¹ So a dad who had grown-up with auto technology of the 50s-60s would past on traditions to his son who would past on the traditions to his son of the 80s-90s ... but these kids might realize things had changed. Time for new traditions.


WG

I missed that they were here. SO to
Menomegirl and white wings!! Hey long lost
PBers! I literally just stopped to see if this
place was still around. Maybe we can get some
of the others to come back, as well. Good luck
weathering your thunderstorm; its been raing
by me for days! Snow and rain = Hate it!

I'll be lurking for a bit..

medusacascade Shoot me an email..

Beldin A quote is a dangerous thing to quote. *g*

wolfguard, medusacascade - Grrr. Arrgh. I wish I'd taken debate in school. I find it hard arguing a position I don't necessarily hold. And if you read the Chesterton chapter, you'll see his subject matter was more limited. In any case, I have to bail because there's a thunderstorm coming up fast. I'll try to do better next time.

ETA:

imemerald - It has been a long while. But three missing members—Menomegirl, white wings and you—showing up within 24 hours of each other is a good sign.

HEY Beldin

Good to see you, been quite awhile!

Christopher Marlowe - I love indie, so that's good. Also, considering we never got to see it on Angel, I would really love to see Marsters in a dress.

Something that made my day: At the local bookstore, there's a 65 year old cashier that's always there, who always comments on whatever you're buying (he usually knows that book). So I went there to buy Predators and Prey, and he went into a ramble about how the WB screwed Joss Whedon over on Angel and how he had a crush on Willow. :)

medusacascade Its' a good movie, although slightly confusing. It's been awhile since I've re-watched it. Definitely an indie movie, although it doesn't have that cheap look some indie movies have.

I might be poignant to watch now, as the late Andy Hallett has a part in it.

Beldin,

Once upon a time, in Europe, people thought it was a poor idea to bathe. They believed it opened the pores letting in bad stuff. OTOH, some also believed linen would absorb bad stuff from the body, so if one could afford linen, buy and wear linen.¹ And then there was the health profession's fondness for bleeding people.

And who are all these people of the past? Did the Chinese of the past believe as did the Greeks or the Mayans or the Celts?

¹ It may have been silk rather than linen.


WG

imemerald - Greetings.

Beldin - I think my favorite work by Chesterton is the Napoleon of Notting Hill. I think, though, that in general, tradition has to be discarded for there to be progress. Tradition's often used as an excuse; we do things this way because we've always done them this way. While history is always valuable, it should be listened to, but not necessarily obeyed. After all, we will always consult the thoughts of those in the past as long as they haven't been disproven - Locke is still the first philospher any debater turns to for the Social Contract - but as time goes on, what we believe and what's true seem to get farther and farther apart, and newer minds appear that may be no more accurate, but that speak to us better than the traditional ones. Also, "Humans are not proud of their ancestors, and rarely invite them round to dinner."

DaddyCatAlSO - I like Japheth. What type of continent is it?

Christopher Marlowe - Is Chance any good? I've been thinking about getting it for a while now...

immemerald! Now you're a blast from the past!

DaddyCatALSO Jamshid, I think. The others look too much like biblical names.

wolfguard - Who determines what conditions must change, and when they are sufficiently changed, to trump the wisdom of the people of the past? It's not like fields of science where we have better instrumentation than scientists of the past. What makes the thoughts of a few people today more cogent that those of many people of the past?

Christopher Marlowe - Orthodoxy. The link with the quote takes you to chapter four, the location of the quote. This link takes you to the title page.

I liked the sentence: "Tradition refuses to submit to the small and arrogant oligarchy of those who merely happen to be walking about."

He spends time in this chapter talking about Jack and the Beanstalk, Beauty and the Beast, Cinderella, and others. Some of what he says here sounds a bit nonsensical to me (odd, when he says it's the epitome of reason) and I'll have to ponder it some.

Algerina,

I saw a few seasons of West Wing in syndication, but never saw the series finale. I detested the series ending of the second Bob Newhart show and will not speak of that psychiatrist episode again. *g*


Beldin,

I think Chesterton is erring on an extreme view of why tradition is valuable. What works under the conditions of one time and place may not work so well if the conditions change. The idea of 'the wisdom of the crowd' has been popular of late, but dig beneath the buzz phrase and the crowd's 'wisdom' depends on the relevant knowledge and experience of the crowd's members with respect to the given issue.

WG

Sorry, I missed some people, but I still hope Happy Birthdays are in tow for
hunter, Janna, Jen15,
Mark Metcalf, Megan, MojoDiva, & Old Married
Guy!

YAY to LEATHER JACKET!!!!

Quick fly by to say
Hey KAM!!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!


Miss all my old PB buddies!!!

wolfguard
I agree with you on NYPD Blue. I thought West Wing had a good real ending. But I think my favorite ending may be Bob Newhart show. Never saw that coming. Cheers nice too.

What would be a better anme for an imagianry continent; Japheth, Japet, or Jamshid?

Beldin What book is that from?

DaddyCatALSO I have the Chance dvd. Shoot me an email.

Beldin Thank you. I am particularly struck by his comment on legends.

Hmm, from what I'm reading of AMazon-on-Demand, it's not something I cna sue via a work or library computer. So if I want to see Chance I guess I'll have to buy the $82.00 publcity picture to get it.

Christopher Marlowe,

I know of them. I believe the Van Daniken's of the world think the lines were some sort of airfields for UFOs. So instead, they might be messages to send water. And what do we get, V! *g*


Returning to series' endings. Of the shows I've seen, the most realistic ending was NYPD (or 'NYPD Blue'?) where the lead detective got promoted and the last scene showed him doing latenight paperwork. The best realistic epic ending was M.A.S.H.. The war ended and the unit disbanded. But the most creative ending, BtVS. *g*


WG

DaddyCatALSO I had almost forgotten who Merlin Olsen was, thank you for mentioning it on the board. I have nothing good thoughts of him.

wolfguard Thank you. I just read an equally fascinating article at National Geographic magazine website about Nasca lines, large figures etched in the deserts of Chile.

Nasca Lines

The prevailing theory is that these enormous geoglyphs were made to help with the lack of water in the region in ancient times.

YAY LEATHER JACKET:
RING-LEADER of RHYME
LORD of the LIMERICK
HIGH PRIEST of POETRY


Leather Jacket's Limerick

There once was a woman named Blaire
Whose face was unusually fair
If she tried to tell lies
her cheeks would oblige
with a redness intense as a flare

Oostvaardersplassen (Photos of animals)

This is a wildlife preserve in the Netherlands. I first read about it in a recent Discover magazine. As I remember the article, Osstvaardersplassen (OVS) was land reclaimed from the ocean with the intent of building an industrial park (c. 1970s?). The financing fell through and the land lay unused. Ecologist predicted there'd be a succession of plant life, beginning with grasses and eventually ending in a hardwood forest. Didn't happen. First came waterfowl, tens of thousands. They ate the ground bare (and then either died-off or decamped). One or more biologists/ecologists convinced the Dutch government to establish a preserve and stock it with animals thought to have been prevalent a few thousand years ago. Some of the species are now so extinct, so approximate equivalent existing species were substituted (Red deer, Konick horses, Heck cattle).

According to article, there's no management of the flora or fauna. Nature takes its course. Since there are no large predators, a large percentage of the ungulates die each year - but enough survive that most of the park is grassland. The article writer described one area as being like a golf fairway. His host, ~ a park ranger, said the land had not been mowed in ~ thirty years.

Wikipedia Article



WG

wolfguard Then I will have to agree with you. I generally have a dim view of killing off characters just for the sake of proving something, like you're being artistic or daring or something.

Back! After two hours, I have darker, but not too dark, hair. I rather like it.

Looky there – I brought both Menomegirl and white wings out of the woodwork last night. Must talk about them more.


white wings - Good to see you. TexasWook is in Austin, as was Laurence in the beginning, I think. Alicat and SarahNicole are in Bryan/College Station, but I don't think SN started out there. moppety, banana, Sarah W. and some others I can't remember were/are in Houston. Hate that you're still having trouble with the knee. Knee problems are so limiting and seem to be hard to resolve. And I'm sorry I missed your yay.

Yay, white wings!

Yay, Leather Jacket!

Happy birthday, KAM!

Happy birthday, hunter, Janna, Jen15, Megan, MojoDiva and Old Married Guy!

Here now.

Happy Birthday to hunter, Janna, Jen15, KAM, Mark Metcalf, Megan, MojoDiva, & Old Married Guy !

Yay! Leather Jacket!

Christopher Marlowe,

No.

WG

RIP Merlin Olsen

Happy Birthday hunter, Janna, Jen15, KAM, Mark Metcalf, Megan, MojoDiva, & Old Married Guy !


Off to the hair appointment!

Yay Leather Jacket!

Happy happy birthday KAM!

Adri
*poke*

Late Tea Time

Is a small hazelnut latte. For lunch I had soup, chicken alfredo with tortellini(?). Very good although it was only a cup. So I am hungry again.

However, I won't have much chance to eat, as after this EEOC presentation, I have a hair coloring appointment.

A rather sedate afternoon. Which is nice.

OldManFan Smart man! I don't think I've seen a character as complex as Ben Linus since Wesley on Angel.

Christopher Marlowe - I probably would have been a candidate, but when Jacob approached me when I was young, I told him I wasn't supposed to talk to strangers.

OMF

OldManFan You wouldn't happen to be a LOST candidate would you?

Just chilling at the EEOC presentation. Thank goodness this building has wifi.

wolfguard Is that comment about a specific show or book?

Leather Jacket's Finish The Limerick

There once was a woman named Blaire
Whose face was unusually fair
She was quite the fox
All curves and blond locks
And naughty, if any, underwear

OMF

Drive-By

A writer who kills off her main character shows lack of imagination. :)

WG

Happy Birthday to
hunter, Janna, Jen15, KAM, Mark Metcalf, Megan, MojoDiva, & Old Married Guy !

Leather Jacket's Finish The Limerick

There once was a woman named Blaire
Whose face was unusually fair
but it was a lie
best money could buy
next she would dye her long hair

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: History
Question:What U.S. president advised: "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen"?
Answer: Harry Truman

Trivia Presidents: wolfguard, notsoShyGirl, Algerina

Trivia Vices: Leather Jacket

Leather Jacket's Finish The Limerick

There once was a woman named Blaire
Whose face was unusually fair
All became smitten
By the love bug bitten
But she did not notice or care

OMF

Today is Thursday, March 11, 2010 C.E.

We have EIGHT (8) Birthdays!

hunter
Janna
Jen15
KAM
Mark Metcalf as the Master vampire
Megan
MojoDiva
Old Married Guy

Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
¡ hunter, Janna, Jen15, KAM, Mark Metcalf, Megan, MojoDiva, & Old Married Guy !

If you want on the list, E-mail Birthdays and use Subject: Bronze Birthday.

Yay ¡ Leather Jacket !

Trivia Girl attributed to Harry S. Truman

Finish the Limerick by Leather Jacket
There once was a woman named Blaire
Whose face was unusually fair
Her eyes were bright blue
And a great body too,
All topped by golden blonde hair!

Leather Jacket Buddy Hackett isn't a good cook any more. He died in 2003. :)

Yay Leather Jacket!

KAM I'm doing reports this morning, and most of them are pretty useless ones, but I have to go through them anyways.

Trivia Girl
Harry Truman

Christopher Marlowe - Oh yeah, and they wonder why we have the highest teen pregnancy rate?

Leather Jacket - Well, except she didn't. And we all knew she wouldn't. I love Buffy, but sometimes I think it just needs to end.

Yay Leather Jacket!

Beldin - Congrats to your niece!

Trivia Girl
Harry Truman

Trivia Girl : Wait. We haven't had a female president yet. Unless you count Nancy Reagan Eleanor Roosevelt.

neonate : Well, let me end the suspense: it can't. *g*

Algerina : Is Buddy Hacket a good cook?

neonate 2 : lostinamerica is correct. Believe me. She always successfully hides her trips to Las Vegas.

lostinamerica : Define "impression". Attack of the Killer Tomatoes made an impression, but I wouldn't go awarding it an Oscar.
You know, it's very difficult to judge whether movies deserve an Oscar when you haven't seen them (Attack of the Killer Tomatoes notwithstanding), which makes it difficult for me to say whether any of the movies nominated did or did not deserve it.

medusacascade : Well, I am all for the whole "the dead should stay dead" rule that comic books ignore. but I think the way they ended the series did a better job of giving us closure (Buffy can now have the option of living a normal life because she's not the One Girl In All The World anymore) than killing Buffy a third time would.

Finish the Limerick

Thanks to the folks who played yesterday:
Creatively done: OldManFan, Old One, buffyrat
Made me laugh: neonate, Algerina
Buffily done: neonate
Rebelliously done: neonate

Today's Limerick
There once was a woman named Blaire
Whose face was unusually fair

Drive-By


Trivia Girl,

Question:What U.S. president advised: "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen"?

I suspect Truman, but I'm not sure. I do believe, strongly, that it was a president before the age of the microwave.

I hope that narrows down the number of choices for others contemplating this question. *g*


WG

Happy Birthday, KAM!

Hope you are all doing well! :)

Little Willow

YAY! Leather Jacket! YAY!

Happy Birthday to all Celebrants!

That is all...

84

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: History
Question:What U.S. president advised: "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen"?

YAY LEATHER JACKET!

A Yay day for Leather Jacket
Set off quite a loud Bronze racket.
Limerick's Johnny Appleseed
posts daily to feed our need
deserves a roast by Buddy Hacket

Ah, a worthy inspiration for more poultry in motion:

A Yay day for Leather Jacket
Set off quite a loud Bronze racket.
When Bronzers chimed their Yays in
LJ tried to suppress a wide grin--
He wasnt sure his face could hack it.

Good Morning Everyone,

YAY LEATHER JACKET!

KAM
Ty King Fan

Leather Jacket--And Yay! you!

Leather Jacket--Yes, the 10-movie format could have diluted the votes. But doesn't that mean there wasn't one movie that made a huge impression on people? I couldn't wait to see Avatar, at least until I starting hearing people's comments about it--O.K. story, lots of special effects. My kids saw it, and even they thought The Hurt Locker was better. I didn't see The Blind Side because it seemed like another heartwarming sports story--bo-ring! Been there, done that. I really want to see Up because I've heard great things about it and there have been animated pictures that I thought deserved Best Picture--Toy Story comes to mind, what an original story! And so cleverly done! I saw parts of District 9 and I didn't bother to sit down and watch the rest of it, so I guess it didn't wow me. Like Aliens, now there was a well-crafted horror movie and scary as hell (Silence of the Lambs was scary as hell too, didn't it win Best Picture?). I haven't seen An Education, Precious or A Serious Man, but I've heard good things about them. They're very serious movies you know and I know I'm supposed to want to see very serious movies but for some reason I'm not in the least bit interested in doing so. I'm not a big fan of George Clooney, so I'm not interested in seeing Up in the Air either, but it's also supposed to be good. I did see Inglourious Basterds, and while I thought Christoph Waltz totally deserved his Oscar the rest of the movie was way over-the-top for me (which is what Tarantino does, actually).

I will have to say that over the last couple of years I've been very selective about what movies I'm taking the time out or paying to see and so if the trailer doesn't grab me I just won't bother. So I may be missing a lot of good movies. But again, if there had been one movie that everyone was talking about like in years past, something like that would have moved me to go. That's why I'm wondering if any of the 10 movies nominated was a must-see.


neonate--Uh, I hate to break this to you but none of my kids have played soccer for the last two years, now that the youngest has discovered lacrosse and the next oldest track and field. If I were you I'd really be looking into the Bellagio thing. And would I really be interested in someone who couldn't successfully hide a trip to Vegas? *rolls eyes*


Thanks for the birthday wishes Menomegirl and Adri!


Belated Yay! white wings! I didn't realize you were in Austin--my oldest daughter is finishing up grad school there at the University of Texas. She didn't get in to any of the Phd programs she applied for and so will be trying to find a real job :(

Did I forget to yay white wings?

Yay white wings!

let's hear a great big bronze cheer for leather jacket!

yay leather jacket!


Happy CD Thursday!

I thought my ears were burning

Happy Birthday BTVS!

Algerina, valMichael, Adri, Menomegirl, wolfguard - Thanks for the yays! I may return but seldom these days, but it is still a great joy to be remembered.

Beldin - We had someone in or near Big Springs, and for a while there were two people in College Station. Where was TexasWookie? He was a Longhorn, so Im guessing Austin as well.

And to play catch-up, there's still nothing exciting going on. I'm beginning to feel that I'm recovering from 2008. I am still working two whole days a week for the State. The knee that I tore up rushing to the hospital late 2008 is still problematic, but it's doing better since I got an MRI and a second opinion that it is not a torn meniscus cartilage. It could be that I feel more free to use the knee now. I spend one day a week making sure my late parents' house is in good working order, as the family likes to gather there and I'm still the nearest sibling. Besides, it is a higher standard of living than my own house in town. Other people do the actual maintenance out there, I had to draw the line at doing more housework. The old rose bed that was abandoned as not safe for my mother is now replanted with old garden roses. In 5 or 6 years it should be spectacular. I spend time in San Saba visiting the friend that Ive kept horses with since college. We may not be riding, but I'm still hauling feed. I've lost another aunt and uncle in the last few months, and of the remaining two, one has advanced Alzheimer's and the other is becoming more fragile, but is still feisty.

I saw that they were running Buffy again on MTV and Logo, and I've managed to catch some of S2 and S3. Good times.

Stay well, everyone.

Beldin Glad to hear that. I fit comfortably in my jeans, but only because I got a different style of them.

Time for me to head out. Good night and have a pleasant tomorrow.

Christopher Marlowe - No tux for me. But I did fit comfortably in my suit.

Yay White Wings!


Christopher Marlowe,

A code of ethics provides a goal, a guide, and a shield for behavior. A code also tsk-tsk those who might say, "I didn't know!"


Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question

Which season of BtVS or Angel would you call epic (or the most epic - which doesn't necessarily coincide with the 'best')?

BtVS 7th Season



Good Night to All

WG

Beldin-Oh that sounds lovely.

Beldin I've been doing some shuffling myself. Got a Dark Shadows dvd today. I might get to that Friday.

ETA

Were you able to fit into a tux?

Menomegirl - "Busy and depressing" Yeah, I can identify with that. Bright side, I had a niece get married Saturday. Beautiful outdoor wedding near Ben Wheeler, about 10 minutes west of Tyler.

Beldin-Busy and depressing, hence the non-postyness. How about you?

Menomegirl - I did; I did. How are things in your world?

Beldin-Hey back. Bet you did a double-take when you saw my post. *g*

Christopher Marlowe - My Netflix queue is down to 90. I've just been doing some shuffling.

Menomegirl - Speak of the devil... Hey there.

drive-by

Happy birthday to JoAnne, LadyVamp, lostinamerica, NTMT, Sam Hain, thatcrazytara, Buffy-Addict, Buffy'sTB, Kallie, Nicholas King, No Surprises, Puckles, Rachel, Skyler, Anwyn-na-gig & Piper Angel (Angelique's childe)

Yay! white wings!

Yay! MtVA!

Yay! Bossy the Cow!


memorial buffy tuesday question-I have to agree with KAM & Algerina. It would need to be the Buffy/Angel arc. *facepalm*

deadguy memorial angel wednesday question-For Btvs, I'd say it's a tie between seasons 2 & 3. Angel is a harder choice for me (especially since I love S2 the most) but, I'd have to say season 4 was the most epic.


RIP Corey Haim.