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wolfguard says:
(Wed Aug 22 02:46:29 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

I like the characters. A question is how many of the original characters are
needed to make it work. For the movie, they used everyone they could gather.
Another question is do they begin where the movie ended - a cliffhanger.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Aug 22 02:22:23 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard So will I. *g* I think it is still 'current' enough that it will get interest.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Aug 22 00:47:49 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

That said, I will be watching. *g*

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Aug 22 00:15:03 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Who is the audience for a thirty-something detective? It can't be about the
trials and tribulations of high school or even college.

WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Aug 21 23:26:47 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: In what episode did the First Evil make its first appearance?
Answer: Amends

Trivia Directors: notsoShyGirl, wolfguard

Trivia newbie: Agent Cooper



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Aug 21 23:04:03 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue Aug 21 23:04:22 2018
wolfguard Veronica Mars revival? Revival



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Aug 21 19:46:39 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard That is interesting spec, if the First appeared in some fashion prior to Amends!

Agent Cooper I will keep my fingers crossed for you too.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Aug 21 18:23:50 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Chris Marlowe: Wife's car is paid off, it's about 8 years old. But it's in good shape and has very low miles on it. So we should get a decent amount of cash to put down on a new car if they total it.


Still, we're really hoping it can be repaired. Problem is, the side curtain airbags went off. I'm told that's a bad sign, because airbags are expensive to replace, even if the rest of the damage is minor. The deployed airbags drive up the repair cost quite a bit and makes the insurance company more likely to total the car.

I'd really, REALLY like to have them fix it and not total it. The repair would be completely covered. We had collision on the car and they're going after the other driver's insurance for the deductible. We just have no budget for a new car right now. And even if we did, it's just a hassle buying a new car. Such an annoying process.

Haven't heard anything yet, still have fingers crossed.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Aug 21 17:56:34 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl,

The first time we learn of the First Evil is in Amends; however, we
cannot be sure FE did not make a cameo in earlier episodes. :) Also, this made
we wonder if some of Darla's appearances in AtS were not the First Evil. Yes,
I know if one could touch a person, then that person was not the First Evil,
but that doesn't discount scenes where Darla appeared, but was not touched.
That's right, there were two Darla's running about AtS. One was Darla
resurrected and one was First Darla. *g*


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Aug 21 17:15:43 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper Too bad about the car! My nephew got in an accident few years ago and his car was declared totaled, but the money he got didn't cover the amount he still owed on it. Not a great situation.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Aug 21 16:38:46 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Buffy VS Dracula


Was busy yesterday. Had to take day off from whup. Wife Cooper was in car accident. She's fine but car not so much. Spent day picking up rental car, talking to insurance, signing stuff at tow yard. Now waiting for whether car is totaled or if they can fix it. I really, really want them to just fix it. Don't really want to go through buying a new car at this time.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Aug 21 14:54:50 2018 206.124.19.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Season 3, Amends



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Aug 21 14:44:19 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today TuesdayAugust 21st 2018 C.E.

We have EIGHT (8) Birthdays!


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Todd McIntosh - the makeup supervisor
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Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to bhd, clmtplr, isolde, jodie, mintmist, RD, Todd McIntosh, Wolfen Moondaughter


Giles: Helping out with the dishes makes me feel useful. Dawn: Wanna clean out the garage with us Saturday? You could feel indispensable. 'Intervention''''

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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Aug 21 14:07:07 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: In what episode did the First Evil make its first appearance?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Aug 21 13:50:04 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Good morning beta!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Aug 21 13:48:42 2018 108.17.71.129) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for the host

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Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Aug 21 06:21:57 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue Aug 21 06:22:51 2018
Just watched You're Welcome. This is the 5th season AtS episode where
Cordy returns to help Angel get back on mission. It ends with her saying good-
bye - and "you're welcome' - before Angel learns of hear death. I've not seen
this since its first airing. It hurt then and it hurts now. I can now more
appreciate DaddyCatALSO's desire to resurrect beloved characters.


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Aug 21 03:40:34 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

We know Willow and Dawn play, because they talk about it in The Real
Me
. *g* Giles fits one stereotype, but then they developed Giles beyond
the stereotype, The Dark Age, Band Candy, the singing (Remember
Willow's jaw dropping when they went to look for him and found him singing in
the coffee shop?). Angel might have taken it up after regaining his soul.

I think it would be interesting character development if Faith had learned
chess or Go in prison. Who would a fan not expect?


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Aug 21 03:09:06 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Nights appear to be slow, which is sort of why I mention it. Who would make a good chess player on Buffy/Angel?



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Aug 21 02:56:19 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Likely anyone who would want to play chess online is already doing so
elsewhere. I know valMichael did so.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Aug 21 01:26:43 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Maybe we should try playing chess on the beta?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Aug 20 23:09:32 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: TV
Question: Who occupied the central square in the opening credits to the Brady Bunch tv show?
Answer: Alice

Trivia Master: notsoShyGirl!

wolfguard LOL! We could posit who would be the best at chess. Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Aug 20 21:30:56 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl,

I remember. And the characters would be looking around at each other. But
since the correct answer had already been made, I needed a silly one and the
only thing that came to mind came off chess.

Alice to King 5. *g*

WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Aug 20 18:58:04 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard In the opening tv
credits of the 'Brady Bunch' they
show the picture of a the cast in 3
by 3 square with 9 individual
squares. Six for the kids, two for
the parents and one for Alice.



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Aug 20 17:49:50 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl,

A pawn???

WG



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Aug 20 14:31:19 2018 206.124.19.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Alice



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Aug 20 14:08:51 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: TV
Question: Who occupied the central square in the opening credits to the Brady Bunch tv show?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Aug 20 13:40:59 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today Monday, August 20th 2018 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7) Birthdays!


James Marsters - the vampire Spike
Kylia
Liddie
LouWho
Raptamama
StrangestGirl
zorrem

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to [bJames Marsters, Kylia, Liddie, LouWho
Raptamama, StrangestGirl, zorrem!



You like ships. You don't seem to be looking at the destinations. What you care about is the ships, and mine's the nicest. Kaylee, 'Serenity''''

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Aug 20 13:28:15 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Okay, I need to rustle up OldManFan.



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lostinamerica says:
(Mon Aug 20 11:59:07 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
ChristopherMarlowe--Mmmm, coconut shrimp :)


Maverick--What fun! How long has the Woodward Dream Cruise been going on?


Belated Yay! OldManFan!



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Aug 20 04:16:13 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Mon Aug 20 05:18:38 2018
Maverick,

I did not read the article ~claiming Trump borrowed from Alinsky. I just
know Trump used and uses ridicule against his opponents and doing so is one
of Akinsky's "rules". And that's the point. Probably none of Alinsky's rules
are original to him. They are tactics or techniques people have been using
for a very long time. All Alinsky did was gather such tactics, then state
and frame them in a way useful to social activists.

I know some people's reactions to the rules are echoing some conservative
"thought leader" who is mushing Alinsky-socialism-evil-this or that liberal
or Democrat together to further the fight. Alinsky would recognize the
tactic.

Returning to the rules. From Alinsky's Rules for Radicals ...

Rule 1: "Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you
have."


If you think the above rule is not used by experienced power-players of all
political persuasions, then you are naive.

ETA And I don't think you're naive. *g*


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Aug 20 02:23:37 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
A long slow day, punctuated by a busy evening and I have a box of peaches at the end of it!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Aug 19 16:23:07 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today Sunday, August 19th 2018 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


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Anne #2
Englfish1@
Pnthr44

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to angelsbb, Angelsdust, Angelus16, Anne #2
Englfish1@, Pnthr44!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Aug 19 15:20:56 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Good morning beta!



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Maverick says:
(Sun Aug 19 08:06:12 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: That's just Trump being Trump. I'm certain he is not referencing Alinsky to come up with those nicknames. And he is not really mocking them or ridiculing. He is more like labeling them. He is more serious (and more accurate.) My experience of that article claiming that Trump was borrowing Alinsky's tactics was that it was an attempt to water-down Alinksky's methodology so to make the Democrat's use of Ridicule lies seem less vindictive, resentful, and nasty than it really is. Like, "Hey, we're not being any more untruthful and hostile than Trump," but they clearly really are.


Here's a link to The Official 2018 Woodward Dream Cruise Site. I'm still looking for a Live-Cam that's operating.


Aretha Franklin will lie in state at the Charles H. Wright Museum of African-American History August 28th and 29th from 9:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Boy, that body will need some really cool temperatures to survive that long.


Maverick


Vehicle




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wolfguard says:
(Sun Aug 19 05:30:04 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick,

RULE 5: Ridicule is man's most potent weapon.

Some of Trump's nicknames for some of those than ran against him for the
nomination ...

Low Energy Jeb, Lying Ted, Little Marco.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Aug 18 22:56:03 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Home from your typical local fair.



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Maverick says:
(Sat Aug 18 19:27:59 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: Thanks for the Belated. No, I DID read the attempt to say Trump was following the Alinsky Rules, and it was just a big attempt to cover-up the Democratic methods of argumentative attack (but nice try.) Yes, I've read the Alinsky Rules and, interestingly, Dinesh D'Souza has extensively covered Alinsky, and Hillary's infatuation with him, in his movies, "America: Imagine the World Without Her" and more specifically in "Hillary's America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party." Have you read Hillary's senior thesis on Alinsky? It's online. And yes, Alinsky does provide "tools" but they are specifically suited for the Liberal/Progressive "mind." Remember Alinsky dedicated his book "Rules for Radicals" to Lucifer.


Christopher Marlowe: Is that what Your Friend told you? Time to think for yourself. If you think the GOP is that unscrupulous, you're hearing too much Fake News.


Tomorrow around Detroit is main day for the 2018 Woodward Dream Cruise. Woodward Avenue in Detroit is M-1 and is like Route 66 or Sunset Boulevard. For two or three days Detroiters bring out their (drive-able) Classic Cars and drive them up and down Woodward and people fight for lawn-chair positions along the route. It's a celebration of the car culture and people come from all over to join the parade. If there is a WebCam operational tomorrow, I will try to link to it. In the meantime here is local Channel 7's last year 2017 Coverage.


Aretha lies in state 2 days in downtown Detroit. R.I.P. Aretha Franklin


Maverick


Taxi Driver




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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Aug 18 18:57:14 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today Saturday, August 18th 2018 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7Birthdays!


ArielB
BladeGirl
David Mellow
LurkingGirl
Tech Zero
TVDictator
XandersGirl

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to @ArielB, BladeGirl, David Mellow, LurkingGirl, Tech Zero, TVDictator, XandersGirl



I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. Cheese Man, 'Restless''''

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Aug 18 14:43:23 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Good morning beta!



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Aug 18 08:01:18 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Late Night Drive-By


Yay OldManFan!!


Belated Happy Birthday Maverick!

Belated Happy Birthday IMMORTAL!




Christopher Marlowe,

Yes, I did learn something new today. *g*


Maverick,

There are Republicans and Conservatives using Alinsky's rules, because the
rules are tools, not ideological principles. There's an article describing
how Trump has used some of them. One wonders if you've even read the rules
you lambaste.

It's so amusing.


Belated Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question

What character on Angel did you dislike the most?

Billy and Skippy the Demon


Deadguy Memorial Buffy Tuesday Question

An hour opens up in your schedule today, which episode do you watch?

In the early hours of Tuesday before the DGMBTQ was posted, I watched
Graduation Day 2. A hour or so ago I watched Doomed. Both
great.


Good Night to All

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Aug 18 03:22:26 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
MAverick Intimidation, Extortion, Blackmail...sounds like it's straight out of the GOP playbook...



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Maverick says:
(Sat Aug 18 00:27:04 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Ophidios.


lostinamerica: I DID have a Caramel Malt at Dairy Queen. This, despite my Metformin prescription (a pre-diabetic med.)


Agent Cooper: Intimidation, Extortion, Blackmail. These are the "arguments" of the Left. Remember, Saul Alinsky's tutor, Frank Nitti, sold "protection" for Al Capone. BTW, what fascinates me about the Manafort trial is that there has never been an IRS audit of the circumstances of the trial allegations. An audit would at least organize the evidence (such as it is.)


Maverick


Make Me Smile




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Aug 18 00:09:08 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Learn anything new today?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Aug 17 21:08:16 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Back home from lunch with a friend in a nearby tow. The best coconut shrimp ever!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Aug 17 19:53:22 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
And the judge just denied the request, saying he himself is already getting death threats over the case and the jurors would be threatened.

But of course, they already have been threatened. That was the media's point in pulling this stunt. The message is clear. "We're going to find out who you are and out you." Sick. Just sick.

I seriously don't now what freaking country this is anymore.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Aug 17 17:45:16 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
OMG. I really can't believe this. CNN is demanding a hearing to force the court to release the names and addresses of the jurors on the Manafort trial. The trial are actively deliberating on right now.

This is outright intimidation.

I honestly don't know my own country any more.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Aug 17 17:08:07 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Lostimamerica/Chris Marlowe: Whiskey and Politics! Now there's an idea. That would either make talking politics alot more fun, or alot more risky. Perhaps both!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Aug 17 16:50:03 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
lostinamerica If it were only whisky and politics...;)



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Aug 17 15:09:15 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Lostinamerica: I figure I have to build up a pretty good resume before I apply.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Aug 17 14:05:57 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today Friday, August 17th 2018 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


Addict No.1
British Angel
Christa
Drubie
Jezebel_817
RocStar

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to @Addict No.1, British Angel, Christa
Drubie, Jezebel_817, RocStar!



Why couldn't you be dealing drugs like normal people? Snyder, 'Choices''''

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Aug 17 13:54:58 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Yay OldManFan! Who is on the road again, it seems!



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lostinamerica says:
(Fri Aug 17 03:06:29 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
ChristopherMarlowe--Pints
and politics--I think that is the
only way politics really should be
discussed ;)


Agent Cooper--"Three people
can keep a secret if two are
dead?" You have really been
showing some promise lately :)


Belated Happy Birthday
Maverick!
Did you get to do
anything fun?


Belated Happy Birthday
IMMORTAL!



Belated Yay! sassyeggs!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Aug 17 01:48:40 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Home after some pints and politics!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Aug 16 21:45:23 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Phobic pursuits

Category: Phobias
Question: What do you fear if you
have Ophidiophobia?
Answer: Snakes, on or off a plane

Trivia Snake Handlers:
notsoShyGirl
Trivia Almost bitten: wolfguard,
Agent Cooper

going offline for a fundraising
event!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Aug 16 20:39:31 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
This makes me want to watch one of my favorite court movies. And Justice for All, with Al Pacino. Best Defense Lawyer EVER!

"The DA isn't gonna get him! Cause I'M gonna get him! My client is guilty! GUILTY!"



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Aug 16 19:05:16 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: Heh. Don't they do that now? :-)



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Aug 16 18:32:24 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

I recall hearing or reading research claiming most jury members had made their
decision on guilt or innocence following the opening statements. During the
trial they listen for information confirming their decision. On the surface
this is similar to a scientific hypothesis; however, a good scientific
hypothesis is one that's reasoning can be disproved ("falsified" in the
parlance).

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Aug 16 17:59:57 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl,

It's a phobia of Ophidio.

Must I translate? *g*


Agent Cooper,

I see an opportunity for screenplay writers to expand their markets. Rather
than doing a movie after a trial, they can write a prosecutor's opening
statement to the jury ...

INTO A WORLD OF LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS, slithered this demon-spawned
psychopath out to take everything they prized and cherished. AND HE SMILED
AS HE DID IT.


LAUGHED


*g*



WG



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu Aug 16 15:19:16 2018 206.124.19.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Snakes



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Aug 16 14:45:49 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: It's the fear of oddly spelled and hard to pronounce words.

Comma: The press is angry about Brennan because he was their best source of leaks. The yammering about constitutionality is disingenuous b*****t.

It's like hollywood complaining about a border wall. They say they hate the idea because "immigration" or something but really it's because a wall would make it impossible to get cheap housekeepers and coke. :-)



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Aug 16 14:38:17 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today Thursday, August 16th 2018 C.E.

We have TWO (2) Birthdays!


Amywyn
TheName

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to @lex H, DreamingHawk, IceFire
pippistrell, Rainbow, ravynhawk!



Where'd they get CAT scan from?... I mean, did they test it on cats? Or does the machine sort of look like a cat? Dawn, 'Shadow''''

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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Aug 16 14:25:42 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Phobic pursuits

Category: Phobias
Question: What do you fear if you
have Ophidiophobia?



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Aug 16 13:50:12 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Chris Marlowe: Note that Trump or his DOJ could end the Mueller investigation at any time. Yet it's still going on.

The democrats want it to drag on through the midterms because it makes the president look bad and it fires up their voters.

The republicans want it to drag on through the midterms, because it makes the president look good and it fires up their voters.


Wolfguard/Chris Marlowe: White collar trials can be hard to prosecute. People think white collar criminals get off easy because they are usually well off and connected. Maybe that's true, but it's also because alot of white collar crimes are complicated, boring and can seem victimless to lay juries.

An abusive husband shooting his wife's lover after catching them together at a hotel is an easy crime to prosecute. It's an interesting and clear cut case. The average person on a jury can easily follow it without losing interest and will likely bring an emotional conviction.

A high level executive at a bank that's embezzling money and laundering it overseas with a complicated, intricate financial system that includes layers and layers of bureaucracy, accomplices and secret accounts that's hard to understand and deadly dry and boring to listen to is hard to prosecute.

A jury will get lost in the intricate details and won't likely be moved emotionally to convict.

Comma - Three people can keep a secret if two are dead.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Aug 16 13:41:02 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Good morning beta!



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Aug 16 02:30:50 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

I don't think a president can decide what state or local D.A.'s can do. It's
also possible he may not be able to control what the Department of Justice
decides to do (though he might influence it). It's also possible Democrats
will win the House, so they'd be able to conduct investigations.

All this may be academic, because Mueller's results will likely determine the
future of the Trump administration. If he finds nothing significant, then
Trump and the GOP will put the matter behind them with a TOLD YOU SO. If
Mueller determines Trump or members of his campaign team /administration broke
laws, then some will be indicted - though not the president. Instead, Mueller
will give his findings to Congress and let them decide how to proceed. Their
decision will not be based on another investigation.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Aug 16 02:19:11 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard The current
administration. I doubt that the
GOP or Trump would be supportive
of any future investigations, given
the level of criticism being
leveled now.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Aug 16 01:46:53 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

The burden of proof is on the government, *shrug*, *g*. What were the
charges against Manafort?


Christopher Marlowe,

What reasoning leads you to conclude further such investigations and
prosecutions would be difficult?

A couple weeks ago, I read an article exploring why white-collar fraud was
difficult to prosecute. What stood out was not any complexity, but the usual
morass of activities that had to be sifted through, organized, synthesized,
and presented to a jury. Mind-numbing. It seemed similar to trying to fact-
check some stories.


Oh-So-Secret

Personally TPTB made it ((......

REDACTED!

......
)). I could talk about Roswell, Siren Green, and the JFK Charade.
Of course, the best practice is to avoid putting a spotlight on the
mushrooms.



WG



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Comma says:
(Thu Aug 16 01:17:05 2018 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
It seems that certain TV channels are going nuts over the President removing the security clearances of certain persons. I cannot speak about why anyone would have their security clearance revoked, I can only speak about my experiences. When I left my work with nuclear weapons, when I left SF, and the NSA, my security clearance was revoked each time. I also received detailed briefings that I had to forget everything that I had ever known. When I walk away from my present employment, I will again have my security clearance revoked. I will also sign a statement that states 'I now know nothing'.


Now, saying all that, I see no reason for anyone to keep their security clearance once they depart the job. Just like us military personnel, if we take a civilian position that requires a security clearance, the civilian company or agency can then request that the person's security clearance be reinstated or upgraded. Depending on what a civilian company does, they may have to pay for the required investigation.

One other point: Just because someone has a Top Secret Clearance does not mean that they are cleared to know everything. There is also 'the need to know' requirement. The only safe secret is when only one person knows the secret.

Comma



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Aug 15 23:30:39 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What was the name of the actress who played the character of Eve?
Answer: Sarah Thompson

Trivia Master: notsoShyGirl



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Aug 15 20:16:31 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: Nope, they didn't. They rested after the prosecution presented its case. Didn't call any witnesses.

I didn't think you were conveying that, I was just remarking on what the radio guy said. I personally didn't know this was done at all. I'd never heard of a defense simply choosing not to present a case before now. It was surprising to me. I thought the strategy behind doing so was interesting.

As far as immunity, again, he's on trial for tax evasion from what I can tell. He couldn't rat anyone else out because he was the king pin of the scheme himself. At least one of his underlings already testified against him. There is no bigger fish to catch by offering him anything. If he had something to save himself with, he'd have sang by now.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Aug 15 19:56:31 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard My own thoughts
aren't much. I read about the
attempts to shift the blame to
Gates, which seemed strange to
me.

My overall thoughts is how will
these kinds of investigations be
done in the future, if at all? It
feels like uncovering and
prosecute things like this will
be very hard to do after this is
all over.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Aug 15 17:58:43 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

I did not say Manafort's attorney's did not offer a defense. I said they did
not call witnesses. Did they not offer a defense beyond questioning the
prosecution's witnesses?

I also not mean to convey it was "uncommon", or for that matter common, for
the defense not to have their own witnesses. I simply posted what I had
heard on the case and that was very little. OTOH, since yesterday I've heard
one reporter speculate Manafort may be keeping mum, because several folks
who have had dealings with Russians over the past few years have died. When
Manafort's attorneys complained about the conditions of his isolated
confinement, prison officials asked if they wanted Manafort put back into
the general population? Uh, no thank you.

Though I have very little knowledge of the case or of Mueller, beyond one
biographical article, I don't think he'd offer Manafort complete immunity. I
wouldn't, because I'd want to hold reserve leverage for future
contingencies.


WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Aug 15 16:31:40 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: I listened to a legal guy on a radio show last night for a bit talking about the Manafort trial. Suprisingly, not presenting a defense isn't as uncommon in the courtroom as you would think.

This legal expert said there are several circumstances when you might want to do this:

1. You think the prosecution has a flimsy case. The burden of proof is on them. If their case is really, really weak sometimes it's better to let them present their bad case and then shrug and wink at the jury like "Are you guys believing this baloney?" You give the impression the charges are so ridiculous they're not even worth answering. In that case, you might even hurt your own case by presenting anything. SO you just keep quiet and let the other side win your case for you. This actually happens alot in small claims court. You can see it in action on daytime TV court shows all the time. You'd never think it happens in criminal court, but now and then apparently it does.

2. You are guilty as heck and stone cold busted, and a defense won't help. In fact, it may even just irritate the judge or jury and make them even less favorable to you. This is sort of like throwing yourself on the mercy of the court in a procedural sense. Also, it be a defiant stance, IE yeah I'm guilty as sin -- prove it to the jury. Keep quiet and something could go your way anyhow: Maybe the prosecutor isn't effective or the full jury isn't convinced etc, you may get off at least some of the charges.

3. In Manafort's case, it's been speculated he may be just hoping for a pardon from the President for keeping quiet and nor implicating Trump in anything. But I don't think that's the case, as it's generally thought Manafort doesn't really have anything on Trump to hold out on. If he did he would have sold out to Mueller for immunity a long time ago. And there would have been ENORMOUS pressure on him to do so. So, not likely I think.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Aug 15 15:23:33 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today Wednesday, August 15th 2018 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Bethy
IMMORTAL
Maverick
nil8r

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to @Bethy, IMMORTAL, Maverick, nil8r!



I got stupid. The money was too good. Jayne, 'Objects In Space''''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Aug 15 14:23:27 2018 206.124.19.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Sarah Thompson



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Aug 15 14:02:15 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What was the name of the actress who played the character of Eve?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Aug 15 13:25:10 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay sassyeggs!

deadguy qod

Eve was the character I liked the least. I don't think the character was good or the actress herself.




Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Aug 15 11:24:51 2018 108.17.71.129) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for sassyeggs!

yay sassyeggs!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

the hyperion hotel - we are known for unforgettable stays

what character on angel did you dislike the most?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Aug 15 05:24:50 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

All I know about the trial ...

1. The defense did not call witnesses.

2. Manafort may not be making any deals, because he's hoping the President
will pardon him.

3. He is facing other charges.


I did read there is a CNN poll where 66% of the respondents said that Mueller
should finish his probe or investigation before the midterm election.

Your thoughts?


WG



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lostinamerica says:
(Wed Aug 15 02:56:42 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard--You gotta be cruel to be kind, ohhhhh. . .hey, that's a catchy
tune. . .

*Boris! Be a dear and add Nick Lowe's 'Cruel to be Kind' to Agent
Cooper
's rotation, will you? I know, it's nice, isn't it? Well, not over
and over again, but we ARE evil. . .*



Yay! DaddyCatALSO!


Happy Birthday StGermain!


Belated Yay! wiccachick!



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ChiristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Aug 15 01:20:11 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard any thoughts on the Manafort trial?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Aug 14 22:47:49 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Who killed Professor Walsh in season four?
Answer: Adam

Trivia Masters: notsoshygirl, wolfguard
Trivia newbie: Agent Cooper!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Aug 14 18:36:21 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl,

Her pride and joy. *g*


Agent Cooper,

Even the good ones will die. It's their destiny.

"There are old slayers and bold slayers, but no old, bold slayers."



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Aug 14 18:23:28 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Nice storm today, that will help put out that local fire. We've had a wetter than unusual summer so far.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Aug 14 15:51:56 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: A wonderful, gifted TV Writer. Who will someday be rewarded in Heaven for that.

If I had time to watch an episode of Buffy today, I think I'd pick "Inca Mummy Girl." In fact, I think I'll watch that with Daughter Cooper after work.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Aug 14 13:45:17 2018 206.124.19.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Adam



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Aug 14 13:36:58 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Who killed Professor Walsh in season four?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Aug 14 13:21:59 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today Tuesday, August 14th 2018 C.E.

We have EIGHT (8) Birthdays!


Ariadne
gangfolles
KarenT
Microphone Chick
Minnin
shadowgirl
slayersworld
StGermain

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to @Ariadne, gangfolles, KarenT, Microphone Chick, Minnin, shadowgirl, slayersworld, StGermain!



his girl at school? She told me that gelatin is made from ground-up cow's feet and that every time you eat Jell-O there's some cow out there limping around without any feet. But I told her that I'm sure the cow is dead before they cut its feet off, right? Dawn, 'Listening to Fear'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Aug 14 13:14:36 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay daddycatalso!


deadguy qod - Tough question. I will go with Once More With Feeling.


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Aug 14 13:07:34 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Chris Marlowe: I imagine there's only two kinds of Slayers. Good ones and dead ones.

CC Wolfguard



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Aug 14 12:06:56 2018 108.17.71.129) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for daddycatalso

yay daddycatalso!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

time management, sunnydale - a schedule for everything

an hour opens up in your schedule today, which episode do you watch?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Aug 14 03:32:56 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue Aug 14 03:34:37 2018
Christopher Marlowe,

As good as she needed to be for a given story. Seriously. Consider her first
fight with Sunday in The Freshman and compare it to her staff work
against the nest of vampires in Into the Woods or against the demons in
Anne. One of the most realistic fights was at the beginning of Fool
for Love
when a vampire stakes her. Spike explained it by saying how
slayers have death wishes, but he was expressing the writer's desire to go
dark. When Spike said, ~ all we - vampires - need is one good night, then he
nailed it. Murphy and Mistakes kill slayers.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Aug 14 03:19:52 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Was Buffy a good fighter?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Aug 14 01:56:14 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
I'm watching technical experts critiquing scenes from movies/tv. Pointing out what the good, bad and the ugly in the accuracy. Ie. what they are doing wrong in a particular crime scene investigation.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Aug 13 23:24:08 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Crime and PUnishment
Question: What prison is located in Ossining, New York?
Answer: Sing Sing

Trivia Singers: notsoShyGirl, Agent Cooper
Trivia In the Clink: Maverick!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Aug 13 21:38:42 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
MAverick I will pass on following your links. You pass along fake news better than Trump.



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Maverick says:
(Mon Aug 13 20:11:55 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Attica! Attica! (If you've never seen "Dog Day Afternoon" it's well worth the time.)


Christopher Marlowe: 2017 Fake News Awards


One of Obama's Best Fake Newsers Play the video, Unmute the sound and Run it full screen.


Maverick


Go All The Way




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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Mon Aug 13 19:27:38 2018 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper Whenever I hear Dannemora, I always wish the albums SOng s of Defiance and For Lifers Only were real



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Aug 13 18:19:25 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Lostinamerica,

Cruel, but truthful. That's why it hurt.

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Aug 13 15:29:18 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Sing Sing.

I lived for a short time up north, within a few miles of Dannemora prison. More formally known as Clinton Correctional Facility. But everybody just calls it Dannemora.

I only visited the town proper once, and what was striking to me was that the town is literally built next to the prison. And I mean RIGHT next to it. The town is built right up against the high walls. So people lived within a few feet of some dangerous criminals, right over the wall.

It's famous for housing some very well known criminals, and also for the invention of a variant of Solitaire. :-)



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Aug 13 14:53:20 2018 166.137.126.22) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Sing Sing



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Aug 13 14:13:43 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Mon Aug 13 14:14:36 2018
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Crime and PUnishment
Question: What prison is located in Ossining, New York?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Aug 13 13:53:08 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today Monday, August 13th 2018 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


chaos813
JS_Mill
wamdue_castle
Whisper2AScream

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to chaos813, JS_Mill,wandue_castle, Whister2AScream!



You do well to flee, townspeople! I will pillage your lands and dwellings! I will burn your crops and make merry sport with your more attractive daughters! Ha ha ha! Mark my words! Ooh! Ale! I smell delicious ale! Olaf the Troll, 'Triangle'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Aug 13 13:43:29 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay wiccachick!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Aug 13 12:45:04 2018 108.17.71.129) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for wiccachick!

yay wiccachick!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Mon Aug 13 11:51:29 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard--Ah,
Choices. . .the Mayor was
especially cruel :(



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Aug 13 05:20:37 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Sure. *g* An excerpt ...

"'Fake news' is a term that has come into common currency since the election
of Donald Trump. According to Google Trends, interest in it suddenly took a
big jump right around Election Day 2016.

Originally, fake news referred to satirical news of the sort that appeared
on The Daily Show or The Colbert Report. More
recently,President
Trump has used the term as an accusation against news organizations
reporting accurate news that he doesn't like.

Fake news is an odd term seemingly connotes two related but different
ideas. One is more akin to pseudo news - stories that are not really
newsworthy but nevertheless are presented as such. A lot of celebrity gossip
falls in this category. The other sense of fake news is the presentation of
falsehoods as if they are in fact true..."

From The Truth Matters: a citizen's guide to separating facts from lies
and stopping fake news in its tracks
by Bruce Bartlett



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Aug 13 02:02:47 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Anyone up to discuss what is or isn't 'fake news'?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Aug 12 23:25:45 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
I hope everyone had a good day today!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Aug 12 12:51:32 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today Sunday, August 12th 2018 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Minidrag33
Robin
silverclouds
Willa

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to @Minidrag33, Robin, silverclouds, Willa



Hey, don't worry about it. Nest full of vampires, you come get me, okay. Box full of puppies, that's more of a judgement call. Jonathan, 'Superstar''''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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wwolfguard says:
(Sun Aug 12 06:54:16 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Just finished watching Choices. BtVS doesn't get any better. :)

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Aug 12 01:35:14 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Humans are one species with a number of breeding populations. The amount of
interbreeding between these populations has varied over human history. For
instance, there was virtually no interbreeding between the Eurasia and the
Western Hemisphere for thousands of years.

Human brains allowed and allow people to develop differences in worldviews and
lifestyles and to sometimes see these differences as being innate rather than
cultural.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Aug 12 00:10:06 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I passed a billboard with the face of Garth Brooks, with the quote 'There is only one race and that's mankind', I'm not sure how effective that is.



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Aug 11 18:30:59 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Drive-By

~ (a) Central tenet of anthropology is race, culture, and language are
independent, but historicallyt they co-vary ~

From notes taken while reading Patrick Vinton Kirch's On the Road of the
Winds
. The book reviews the archaeological findings of the Pacific
islands before the arrival of Europeans.

In the late 1990s, the American Anthropology Association put forth a
statement summarizing what they believed was the professional consensus view
on "Race". Nutshell: Race is a cultural construct, not a biological reality.
People see racial differences, but there's not enough biological differences
between human groups to matter. Of course perception does matter, but that's
another post.

I put this up front, because Kirch listing of race says he finds it a useful
category. It maybe that there are enough differences, over time and space of
the relevant Pacific regions, that anthropologists can use those differences
to track historical populations' migrations. "Race" would be a convenient
shorthand. I'm thinking he's using it this way, because otherwise "Race"
could be folded into the culture category. That out of the way ...

Living culture and living language spring from a population. Populations,
especially horticultural ones - which the Pacific islanders were - are
relatively small. Being small, people's physical appearance would be more
similar than different. So it's not surprising that physical appearances -
Kirch's "race" - and culture and language would vary together. If some
people left Island A and settled some distance away on Island B and there
was relatively little interaction afterwards, then over time some
differences in culture and language and 'race' would arise between the two
island communities.

The less a group breeds with outside groups, the more likely physical
appearances will associate with culture and language. The more a group
breeds with outside groups, the more likely physical appearances will
diverge from culture and language. One example are "white" people. To think
because a person's skin is some shade of "white" means they see the world
alike would likely be a mistaken assumption.

OTOH, more people born and bred in Russia are likely to share a similar
worldview than they would share with people born and bred in Germany or the
UK. OTO-OH, it may not. One has to look at the specific case.


Posting content since November 1998.


WG



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Aug 11 14:52:16 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today Saturday, August 11th 2018 C.E.

We have EIGHT (8) Birthdays!


Buffman
Ergoshakes
Esther
Gray - R.I.P
Kay
Maki Maus
SpikeLVR

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to @Buffman, Ergoshakes, Esther, Kay
Maki Maus, SpikeLVR!



Hands! Hands in new places! Willow, 'Doppelgangland''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Aug 11 14:06:17 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Good morning beta!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Aug 10 23:29:43 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
off to a board meeting, not sure when I'll get back home tonight!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Aug 10 22:34:09 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper A slow day today, Maybe I should have joined you on that ride!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Aug 10 20:12:48 2018 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper Yes? I thought I used fialry clear words.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Aug 10 18:22:23 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
I'm on to Morrisey. No sign of the cat so far.

Rode the bike in to work, forecast said today was going to be beautiful. Now it looks like rain.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Aug 10 14:50:21 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
OMFG "Year of the Cat" again!

I knew it. I should have started with Elton, but I started with a Paul McCartney song instead.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Aug 10 14:33:30 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today Friday, August 10th 2018 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


dualslayers
JSG
LittleFearDemon

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to dualslayers, JSG, Little FearDemon!



A ghost? What's the deal? Is every frat on this campus haunted? And if so, why do people keep coming to these parties, cause it's not the snacks. Xander, 'Where The Wild Things Are''''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Aug 10 13:56:45 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
I still think we need some streamers or something in here. Maybe some welcome signs. For when the show reboots and all the old Bronzers come back to start posting again.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Aug 10 13:20:56 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay allyson!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Aug 10 11:48:57 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick - They're also not telling you that Sen Feinstein had a chicom spy as her assistant for like 20 years. A REAL, ACTUAL chicom operative. On the staff of a sitting congresswoman. For decades! A congresswoman who was very, very favorable, almost an outright advocate, for China during her entire career. Hmmm!

That should be the lead story on every network for the next week. But no, because it got bumped by the more riveting story about Trump sneezing out of the wrong nostril.

And of course the the Russia Collusion that didn't happen that nobody in a two year investigation can find any evidence of. Yeah...



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Aug 10 11:11:52 2018 108.17.71.129) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for allyson!

yay allyson!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Fri Aug 10 10:45:38 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper--We do, but it's
this old German guy, he's a little,
uh, off. . .

*"Is it safe? Yes, yes, it's
safe, now can you finish my teeth
cleaning? Always with the "is it
safe!"*



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Aug 10 01:38:55 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
I am hereabouts!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Aug 9 23:53:29 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Biography
Question: I Kid You Not was the bio of what well-known host?
Answer: Jack Parr

Trivia Master: NotsoshyGirl
Trivia Newbie: Agent Cooper

Maverick, google First Court Inc.



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Maverick says:
(Thu Aug 9 19:23:10 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu Aug 9 19:24:49 2018
Trivia Girl: The Cisco Kid.


Christopher Marlowe: What is a private jury type thing? It doesn't have anything to do with convicting Conservatives so they can be eliminated?


Anyone else notice that the Mainstream Media will not tell you that the man arrested in New Mexico of keeping children as captives and teaching them how to perpetrate school shootings is a Radical Muslim? Check out the CBS Video - they never explicitly say the arrested man is a Muslim.


Going to see Dinesh D'Souza's "Death of a Nation" this afternoon.


Maverick


Eternal Flame




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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Aug 9 17:19:07 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Lostinamerica: Do you guys have Dental?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Aug 9 15:20:22 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today Thursday August 9th 2018 C.E.

We have ELEVEN (11) Birthdays!


BISHOP
Catalina
hunnie
Jennifer
Natalie
NightDreamer
Rollagirl
SetzJS
Silverfox
Slayergrl99
Zeus

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to BISHOP, Catalina, hunnie, Jennifer, Natalie, NightDreamer, Rollagirl, SetzJS, Silverfox, Slayergrl99 Zeus!



Well, personally, I kind of want to slay the dragon.Angel, 'Not Fade Away'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Aug 9 15:18:03 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper--What a great
idea! Really, I didn't think you
had it in you--maybe you should come
over to the dark side ;)



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Aug 9 14:35:12 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Bill Cosby

Daddycatalso: Ummm...wut?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu Aug 9 14:30:27 2018 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Well,w hen I dialed my own calls the at-work blackouts weren;'t that big an issue except when they lasted too long. now I'm on ana utomated dialer gain.
If it this while I'm typing a comment it's abit funny, at elats if I catch it before I save the note. Like when I wanted to type "Transferred to Pay Assist for Spanish speaking rep" and instead typed "Transferred to Pay Assist for table legs."
But when it this during a call and instead of telling a customer what I'm suppose d to be telling them I instead babble some REM nonsense, it's trickier to correct.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu Aug 9 14:27:30 2018 206.124.19.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Jack Paar



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Aug 9 14:06:16 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Biography
Question: I Kid You Not was
the bio of what well-known host?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Aug 9 13:16:07 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay belmont!


Happy CD Thursday!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Aug 9 13:01:03 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Lostinamerica: Identity politics is dumb.

You can put 10 white people in a room together, and all 10 can have had vastly different life experiences, outlooks and opinions.

Obviously, the same could be true of 10 black people. Or 10 gay people. Etc.

Simple common sense tells us this.

Sorting people into imaginary cultural groups based on skin color or gender or age or whatever is dumb.


Oh, and let me guess. I won't hear Al Stewart for a bit. I'll be lulled into a false sense of security. I'll think everything is fine. Then...I'll suddenly be subjected to 4 straight hours of "Year of Cat", unable to switch videos. Then it will start playing in the car on the radio- on all the stainos. Then on my Ipod. On the elevator. In the dentist's waiting room.. Amiright?



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Aug 9 12:14:37 2018 108.17.71.129) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for belmont!

yay belmont!


Happy CD Thursday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Aug 9 12:08:21 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper--I so agree!
One of my favorite things about
BTVS that it was
believable--there really
could be a Sunnydale. And,
as ChristopherMarlowe said,
funny :) That's all I want. . .is
that so wrong?


wolfguard--Your example
brings up an important point--
Charmed has women from
three different cultures,
presumably so they can represent
those three. But isn't that
stereotypical, assuming the
Caucasian has had a "white"
experience, the Latina a "Latina"
experience and the African-
American an "African-American"
experience? America is such a
mixed society now, haven't we
moved past that?


DaddyCatALSO--I can buy the
sisters' mother dating men from
two different cultures. But
three? Don't people have types
they generally find attractive?


Agent Cooper--Oh, it's
early yet ;)


Belated Yay! neonate!



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Aug 9 06:12:36 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu Aug 9 06:13:02 2018
Christopher Marlowe,

On your topic, ~Is another civil war possible in the US? I believe it very
unlikely in the near future, because there are no issues polarizing enough
to compel enough Americans to use organized violence against one another.


Belated Yay Neonate!

Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question


Is there something to be said for having to wait... had you been able to
stream 7 seasons of BtVS, would you have loved it as much?


Probably not. Much enjoyment of BtVS was had from Bronze related activities.
Many of those activities revolved around debating the stories and
speculating on what might happen next. For this to happen there had to be
time between the tales which streaming works against.



Night All

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Aug 9 00:27:54 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
I iz hereabouts!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Aug 8 22:31:37 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: What role did Daniel Dae Kim play on Angel?
Answer: Gavin Park

Trivia Master: notsoShyGirl, and I will allow Agent Cooper's That Guy!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Aug 8 20:56:59 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Chris Marlowe - True. Maybe that's the way to think about it.

It looks to me like the Republican party is actively transforming right now. The globalist Old Guard GOP Establishment is losing ground and a more populist/nationalist faction is starting to replace them.

The Democrats are in the early stages of something similar. I think the Old Guard Establishment Democrats are now in trouble as well, and are on the way out. What replaces them is not clear to me, but it looks like a more left leaning, democratic-socialist type movement is gaining traction.

The ironic thing is that, although these changes have been bubbling under the surface for a while, the 2016 Presidential election is what really accelerated these changes on both sides, for (obviously) completely different reasons.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Aug 8 20:29:00 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper I'm not so sure. I see splintering of both parties, but I'm not sure if that will continue or if other parties will coalesce around each other.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Aug 8 18:37:16 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

I believe before making a list of the greatest this or that, one should layout
how great is defined and measured. *g* That said, here's one person's list ...

https://www.oddhistorian.com/the-10-greatest-military-leaders-of-all-time/


WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Aug 8 16:06:35 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Chris Marlowe: I don't think there will be a civil war, but who knows? I would hope not. Do I think we see more pronounced political regionalism in the future? Yes, that's more likely.

Trivia Girl: That one guy at Wolfram and Hart. The creepy yet professional (and strangely cheerful) one. That guy.

Youtube Music Update: Hmmm... it seems when I start out with Elton John, I DON'T end up with "Year of the Cat." Still testing this, but I may have found a loophole in Lostinamerica's Youtube's evil Al Stewart Algorithm.

Stay tuned! (I has Puns, heh)



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Aug 8 14:41:35 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: Sherman did engage Johnston, but really, these battles were mainly weak feints by Johnston to try and take Sherman's attention away from Georgia. Johnston didn't have the strength to do more than annoy Sherman, and they both knew it.

Lee has been considered a military genius for a long time, but was he really that great a general? It's an interesting question, considering his opposition could be fairly judged as hopelessly inept throughout most of the war.

It's hard to say really. It it noteworthy that he did not fair well when pitted against determined, capable opponents like Meade and Grant. On the other hand, he had less to work with in terms of materiel and manpower, and was forced to fight a mainly defensive war.

So, hard to say.

Related to how bad Union leadership was, one of my favorite Lincoln quotes from the time is recorded by Ozias Hatch as he rode with the President through McClellan's camp near Antietam. As they inspected the army, the exchange went like this:

Hatch Hatch, what is all this?

Why, Mr. Lincoln, this is the Army of the Potomac.

Lincoln hesitated a moment, and then, straightening up said in a louder tone: No, Hatch, no. This is General McClellans bodyguard.

Heh. Burn!



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Aug 8 14:05:41 2018 206.124.19.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Gavin Park



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Aug 8 13:53:27 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: What role did Daniel Dae Kim play on Angel?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Aug 8 13:40:38 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today Wednesday, August 8th 2018 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


@lex H
DreamingHawk
IceFire
pippistrell
Rainbow
ravynhawk

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to @lex H, DreamingHawk, IceFire
pippistrell, Rainbow, ravynhawk!



You do well to flee, townspeople! I will pillage your lands and dwellings! I will burn your crops and make merry sport with your more attractive daughters! Ha ha ha! Mark my words! Ooh! Ale! I smell delicious ale! Olaf the Troll, 'Triangle'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Aug 8 13:15:42 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay neonate!

deadguy qod

I think there is something to be said for the wait in between episodes, it becomes more a part of your life. If I could stream Buffy in only a month, it would not have had as much of an impact.


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Aug 8 11:19:00 2018 108.17.71.129) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for neonate!

yay neonate!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

queue city - we have the longest lines in the state

is there something to be said for having to wait... had you been able to stream 7 seasons of btvs, would you have loved it as much?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Aug 8 02:59:55 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed Aug 8 03:00:38 2018
ETA Somehow I double posted. *g*

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Aug 8 02:54:46 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Pondering. *g*


DaddyCatALSO,

Truth be told, I don't think I've read a one-volume book on the political
history of the US Civil War. Think what I know of it comes from its
inclusion in books on related subjects - also articles. I've only read one
overview military history of the Civil War. Of the Civil War, I've mostly
read memoirs and battle/campaign histories. Champion Hill by Timothy
Smith is said to an excellent example of how military history should be
written. I hope to read it one day. Also on my list is Hess' Civil War
Infantry Tactics
. Several times I've seen McPherson's Battle Cry of
Freedom
touted as the best one volume history of the war.



Agent Cooper,

To get to Atlanta, Sherman fought around 10 battles with Johnston. To get to
Savannah he did as you noted, ignored Confederate armies. Hood headed north
into Tennessee hoping to lure Sherman after him. Sherman said, ~ Hell if
he'll go to the Ohio River I'll give him rations, but my business is
elsewhere.

Living in Georgia, I will tell you there is a lot of land lying south of
Atlanta. A lot. Sherman's march only touched a bit of it, but his point was
made. An item of interest is Sherman cut his logistics tail and lived off
the land. As I remember he also cut his communications with Washington and
once he headed south was incommunicado till arriving in Savannah around
December.

It's true Grant used attrition against Lee, because he could and Lee could
not. This approach earned him the reputation of a butcher, no finesse. But
Grant was a master of operational war, the indirect approach, logistics,
maneuver - see the Vicksburg campaign. Lee was not in the same league.

A "what-if" question is would Lee ever had earned his reputation had Grant
overseen the Peninsula campaign of 1862 rather than McClelan. I'd wager
Richmond would have been taken. I imagine Jefferson Davis and his government
would have fled to Atlanta. Would Lee have followed or would he have felt
his duty lie in holding onto as much as Virginia as possible?


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Aug 7 23:59:13 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Is another Civil War possible in the US?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Aug 7 22:33:15 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: K Todd Freeman played what minor character on the tv show?
Answer: Mr. Trick

Trivia masters: Agent Cooper and notsoShyGirl!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Aug 7 20:26:10 2018 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Agent Cooper My views of t he Civil War are heavily derivative of Bruce Catton's *The Hallowed Ground*, a gift form my parents when I was quite young.


wolfguard lostinamerica I can see changing white to Euro-American. I mean, before 1948, Middle Easterners were considered white, and their transformation into Positionally Preferred Brown Victims did not happen overnight, in fact wasn't really a thing until after 1967. Of course, now e have the war of the Emerging World Cvilization against the Mullahcrats, which many people (both pro and con) insist is a war between the USA and Islam. That of course will have the effect of the political masochists of the Western world insisting that it is based on race.
Heck, outside of the Southwest and FLorida, Americans didn't think of Hispanic as a "Race" until t he 1960s, really.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Aug 7 19:17:41 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Daddycat: When Sherman invaded the deep south he ignored the Confederate armies around him and attacked the South itself during his March to the sea, burning everything that couldn't be carried away. He realized that to destroy the Confederacy you had to destroy the Confederacy - not chase Lee and Johnston's armies around Virginia and Tennessee for another 3 years like the last 4 or 5 guys wasted their time doing. Sherman is credited(?) as one of the people who invented the concept of total war.

Meanwhile, Grant absolutely made it his business in Virginia to destroy Lee's army. He did not necessarily care about taking Richmond or any other Confederate territory per se. His goal was only to destroy the Army of Northern Virginia, and he succeeded in this by being ruthlessly persistent and attacking constantly without pause, shrugging off appalling casualties to keep Lee constantly fighting and on the defensive - something none of his predecessors had the stomach to do. Attrition was the game and he played it, knowing the North could afford that strategy and the South could not.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Aug 7 18:18:22 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO,

I don't know, *shrugging shoulders*. Grant began the war capturing key-
points along the Mississippi and its tributaries. Now he had to defeat
armies to do so, but it was Vicksburg he wanted. Same with Chattanooga. When
he took command in the east and began the overland campaign he was headed
somewhere - Richmond. Lee interposed his forces. First battle, "The
Wilderness". Lee's given the "win", but Grant did not follow past practice
and return to Washington. Instead, Grant slipped around to the left and Lee
side-stepped, with great haste, to block him - Spotsylvania. And this
patterned continued to Cold Harbor. After that battle, Grant stole a march
on Lee by crossing the James River and attacking Petersburg (which he failed
to do, resulting in a siege).

Now one could argue the whole point of heading to Richmond was to force Lee
into those battles to bleed the South dry. Sure. OTOH, the siege of
Petersburg lasted from June 1864 till April 1865. If Grant's aim was to
destroy Confederate armies might not he have tried something to bring them
into battle elsewhere? OTO-OH, with Vicksburg and Atlanta taken, there may
have been no other cities Lee believed worth defending. OTO-O-OH, the North
could have continued putting pressure on bread-basket regions to draw out
Lee's forces. Having said that, I'm not sure how two armies come to converge
to fight over a specific corn or cotton field.

I'm not so much arguing against your point as I'm using it to think through
the matter. Chicken or egg? Did Grant head to Richmond, because capturing it
would end the war or did he head to Richmond to force Lee into battle and in
bleeding the Army of Northern Virginia, win the war? Big tangent - Would
Nazi Germany have defeated the USSR by capturing Moscow?

For what it's worth, one truth of naval warfare is that it can be hard to
find navies at sea. The Sea is a big place. If a navy doesn't want to give
battle, then it can often easily enough hide or runaway. Two of Nelson's
victories were against anchor fleets in port (The Nile and Copenhagen). One
way of fixing a fleet or squadron is to catch it when it's conducting an
amphibious invasion. This how the Japanese were able to sink some 30+ USN
ships at Okinawa. Most of the British ships lost in the Falklands were
engaged in landing troops at San Carlos.



Lostinamerica,

I know a couple that 'looks' like this ...

Woman: Both parents white.1

Man: Mother is African-American, father was Hispanic. He looks Hispanic;
however, his half-siblings all had a different father who was African-
American. All of them are dark-skinned.

The couple's son has dark black hair, blue eyes, and 'white' skin.


1 Is it time to change "white" to European? Euro-Americans (would
this be confused with the currency?). This would include folks from Spain
and Portugal, though perhaps not people whose ancestors originated in Iberia
and moved to the new world and became, presto - Hispanic.Footnote to
Footnote
Of course some people might desire more resolution so we
could return to Polish-Americans, Irish-Americans, Italian-Americans,
Albanian-Americas (Hey Eliza!), etc. I don't think anyone living in Africa
from prehistory to 1600's, considered themselves 'African'. They considered
themselves members of one of hundreds of culture groups that lived on the
continent that Europeans would name Africa. One might argue one origin of a
pan-African culture came from the efforts of people enslaved and brought to
the New World. I suspect one way of controlling enslaved people is to
separate people from the same group. This would minimize schemes to escape
or rebel. It would isolate people. But people need a community and mixtures
of people from different cultures would create a new culture based on the
cultures they had been torn from.

Anyway, Teddy Roosevelt was against hybrid Americans. We are all Americans.
Of course, that's only a bumper sticker or sound bite. What does it mean to
be American (Norte Americano *g*).


Footnote to Footnote Folks in Latin America had different names
for different mixings of Africans, Europeans, and Indigenous people. Of the
latter, they certainly didn't see themselves as being one people - they
identified with a large number of different cultures. I believe Spaniards
may have distinguished between those born in Spain and those Spaniards born
in the New World.



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
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lostinamerica I'm not much concerned about the diversity as I am that this will be a charm-free Charmed reboot. The original show had fun, this show looks too moody.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Aug 7 16:00:53 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Mr. Trick!


And....MINOR character??? He should have had his own spinoff! They probably wrote him off because they were afraid he was going to take over the show.

Lostinamerica: Politics + Art = Propaganda.

Just tell us a good story. Leave the politics for RL. People tune in to enjoy an interesting story in order to escape their RL problems for a bit. RL problems like, say..POLITICS!



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Aug 7 14:32:24 2018 206.124.19.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Mr. Trick



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Aug 7 14:06:52 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: K Todd Freeman played what minor character on the tv show?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Aug 7 13:51:08 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today Tuesday, August 7th 2018 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Missi
Missie
ScaryGodmother
Spike4evr

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Missi, Missie, ScaryGodmother, Spike4evr!



Jayne: Yeah, that was some pretty risky sittin' you did there. Wash: That's right, of course, 'cause they wouldn't arrest me if we got boarded, I'm just the pilot. I can always say I was flying the ship by accident. 'Serenity'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Aug 7 13:25:39 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay safarigirl!

deadguy qod

Hmm...I don't think so, although that would be an interesting way to do a shared universe. I never really thought of that before though, River being a slayer!


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Aug 7 13:17:49 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
I saw some plans for the Charmed reboot, and making the three half-sisters
white, Latina and African-American strains credibility to me--I can see fathers
from two different races but three? Seems like that doesn't happen very much,
and is what worries me about the BTVS reboot--being politically correct
for politically correct sake.



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Aug 7 12:10:40 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
Yay! Safarigirl!


Belated Yay! IMMORTAL!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Aug 7 11:53:15 2018 108.17.71.129) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for safarigirl

yay safarigirl!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

futuristic sunnydale - see what life will be like in 2100

there is a theory that all joss' shows take place in the same universe... is there any chance river (and the other girls in her "school") were slayers?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Aug 7 11:52:28 2018 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper wolfguard by the time Grant w as made overall Union commander, he had come tor realize (and persuaded Sherman nd McPherson) that the way to finish off the Confederacy at that point was to concentrate o n defeating the main Rebel armies, Lee's and Johnston's, instead of on capturing territory. No more sideshows like Sabine Pass or Olustee.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Aug 7 02:03:12 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

How does a private jury work?

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Aug 7 01:27:23 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Back from doing a private jury type thing.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Aug 7 00:33:26 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

When I first heard that quote attributed to Sherman it sounded out-of-time.
I did hear in on Ken Burn's "Civil War" series, c.1990, so took it as
vetted.1 I just did a quick google and found several links
discussing the squirt gun quote. One is reddit thread. Here's an excerpt of
one person's research ....

BEGIN

Here's the earliest reference to a squirt-gun I could find, in a short
article in the Boston Weekly Magazine, from 1803. In this case though, it
was used for practical purposes (more like a spray bottle, rather than as a
toy).

TO DESTROY APPLE-TREE WORMS

MAKE a strong soap-suds - break the nest of worms,

and pour these suds quite hot upon them; or force it into

the nest with a common squirt-gun.

END


1 I've since come across a few things from that series that I no
believe inaccurate. I think each resulted from Burns accepting some common
folklore about the war. For instance, a common accepted belief about the
civil war is that both sides went into the war using tactics based on
Napoleonic muskets and were slow to learn these tactics were inappropriate
against the new rifled weapons. I was taught this in the early 70's and it
was, probably still is, a staple of what's taught. By the 1990's there were
historians questioning this accepted wisdom and offering evidence and
reasoning why is was not on the mark. Men under fire are under pressure to
learn from mistakes. If soldiers seem to be doing something "stupid", there
may be a good reason for it.



WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Aug 6 23:17:52 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: TV
Question: Who was the first host of the game show 'The Match Game'?
Answer: Gene Rayburn

Trivia Master: notsoShyGirl

Trivia newbie: Agent Cooper



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Aug 6 20:37:13 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Home now! and I learned something important as a contracted employee. You can both be out of work to do and still have lots of work to do!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Aug 6 19:26:56 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: There were a few on both sides who saw the reality early on. But they were not in the majority, and not generally listened to. Until after the first few months in, that is, when it was starting to become clear the war was going to take a long time to finish.

By the way, I doubt the first quote is really Sherman's. The squirt gun wasn't even invented till the 1890s, at the earliest. Nobody in 1861 would have known what that was. :-)



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Aug 6 18:58:07 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

In the spring of 1861, Sherman said, "Why, you might as well attempt to put
out the flames of a burning house with a squirt-gun." In June he wrote, "I
still think it is to be a long war very long much longer than any
Politician thinks."

After Shiloh, Grant realized winning the war would require total conquest,
"subjugation" of the south.


WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Aug 6 16:28:14 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl - Wink Martindale. Because all game shows should be hosted by Wink Martindale.

Wolfguard: I don't think either side was trying to goad the other into war, save for a few die hards on either side. Both North and South gravely underestimated the other's resolve.

For the most part, people in the North could not conceive of any state seceding from the Union. The idea was as farfetched then as it is now. I mean, sure, the Southern state houses would huff and puff and threaten such dire consequences, but of course they would never really cross that line. It was all just a big political poker bluff to get their way. Nobody was ever really going to leave the Union. This was simply an impossibility.

For their part, folks in the South never imagined the North would raise much fuss, much less spill blood, over their leaving the Union. The sentiment was that the North had nothing but contempt for them anyway and would gladly see them off. Any talk to the contrary was just bluster. Nobody in the South could conceive of any Northerners sending their sons off to a shooting war just for some nebulous concept of Union, much less to die for a bunch of slaves. They just did not believe it would come to that. Talk of going to war over some vague, noble concept as "preserving the Union", whatever that was supposed to mean, was just that. Talk.

Neither side realized the other was, indeed, very serious about going to war until the shooting started.

This is partly why both sides also believed that any war that DID break out, however unlikely that was, would be short. Neither side thought the other had the resolve to back up their talk with real blood.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Aug 6 13:34:35 2018 206.124.19.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Gene Rayburn



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Aug 6 12:41:47 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: TV
Question: Who was the first host of the game show 'The Match Game'?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Aug 6 12:15:33 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today Monday, August 6th 2018 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


Lovecraft
Mr. Happy
TreeLady


Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Lovecraft, Mr. Happy, TreeLady!



I'm very sorry if she tipped off anyone about your cunningly concealed herd of cows. Simon, 'Safe'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Aug 6 12:03:19 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay immortal!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Aug 6 11:07:48 2018 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for immortal!

yay immortal!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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Maverick says:
(Mon Aug 6 08:49:09 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Shan: I just got back from Pennsylvania and I resent having to tell you once again that you know nothing about American history and politics. Where to Begin? Begin by learning how to look things up rather than by just repeating your incorrect preconceived notions. Yeah, the term Democracy, especially small "d" democracy, is often bandied about. Even the U.S. is often referred to as a Democracy (but it is of course, a Republic.) BUT, I've never seen any group refer to themselves as "Socialists" unless they were Lefties along the Marxism spectrum. You can't name one. And, yes, D'Souza pled guilty to making two straw donations of $10,000 each, but no one who had NOT been guilty of corruption (of getting something as a result of his contributions) had received confinement time. D'Souza had severely criticized Obama in his Book and Movie and the prosecutor Preet Bharara had recommended jail time, but the Judge had instead given him six months of overnight confinement, a fine, and community service. Trump realized this whole prosecution was vindictive and onerous and, although D'Souza had already served his sentence, Trump pardoned him.


Maverick


Jump




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wolfguard says:
(Sun Aug 5 23:35:44 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

Once the southern states left the Union, war was on. One historian argues
Lincoln took Andrew Jackson's example. During his administration South
Carolina threatened to leave over tariffs. Jackson either threaten or sent
troops to SC. South Carolina backed down. Lincoln thought a similar approach
would work again and it's why he left troops at Ft Sumter to provoke an
attack. It's also why the initial Union enlistment was only for ~ 3 months.

Would Lincoln have done the same had he knew what the war would cost? I don't
know. Would the southern states have seceded if they knew the results?
Absolutely not. They would have done better to stay in the Union and continued
their efforts to add slave states in the west. But - most countries that
initiate a war do so because they believe they'll win (and the Union did).
Wars often happen because the two parties believe the dice is loaded in their
favor. Oops.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Aug 5 22:34:15 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
I think I'll go get my art on tonight!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Sun Aug 5 15:53:47 2018 108.44.34.233) [Edit/Delete]
Wolguard - The real folly of the civil war was that
neither side thought the other was serious until the
bullets started flying. I wonder if that had been
different, if they each realized their adversary was
in deadly earnest, maybe both sides would have
worked harder to come to some peaceful
agreement. So many lives would have been saved.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Aug 5 12:12:25 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today Sunday, August 5th 2018 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7) Birthdays!


Ethan Ericson as Percy West
Jack on the Box
nails
Pagan
Servalan
Starr
viper420

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Ethan Ericson as Percy West, Jack on the Box, nails, Pagan, Servalan, Starr, viper420!



She's not just a blob of energy, she's also a 14-year-old hormone bomb. Spike, 'Blood Ties'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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Shan says:
(Sun Aug 5 11:24:06 2018 114.75.76.53) [Edit/Delete]
"Shan: Oh! You should meet Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez who is equally clueless but convinced she knows everything. Don't be afraid to look things up. Where do you think the term Nazi came from? It's short for National Socialist. Socialists are Lefties like Marxists and Communists. BTW, Fascists are also Lefties. Look it up. D'Souza did."

Wow, where to begin? I know. Let's start with the FBI website.

Dinesh DSouza Sentenced in Manhattan Federal Court to Five Years of Probation for Campaign Finance Fraud

Let's go through the key points here. Namely, he pleaded guilty. Bolded for emphasis.

He broke the law by breaking the limits of campaign finance law. He got caught because he was so brazen about it.

"During the plea proceeding, DSOUZA admitted before the Court that he caused two close associates to contribute $10,000 each to the Long Campaign with the understanding that he would reimburse them for their contributions and that he did reimburse them. DSOUZA also admitted that he knew that what he was doing was wrong and something the law forbids."

There's really no ambiguity about this. The argument that it was political because other people were breaking the law but didn't get caught really doesn't wash, certainly didn't with the judge.

Look, I wanted a Bernie Sanders for president T-Shirt but as a foreign national, I understood the limit for me was $0 and I couldn't buy one from the site. I understood the instruction to the effect of "If not a US citizen, you can't buy these.". So yes, I did seem to understand more than Mr D'Sousa in this case. Though I'm betting he understood the rules and thought he could get away with breaking them. Well, obviously not.

As for the FBI, I can't even bother with being sarcastic about pre-empting any accusations of being a hotbed of leftist activism. Because it isn't. When was the last time a confirmed Democrat ran it - go on, I'll wait. I found one acting director - who was in charge for 71 days, other than that it was all Republicans (or unknown/unconfirmed).

"Where do you think the term Nazi came from?"

I'll get to this later but this is a lazy intellectual argument, even for you. See also "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" and "German Democratic Republic". Just because people slap a label on something doesn't mean that's what it is. You know, given how much time the Nazis spent murdering actual communists, socialists, trade unionists, minorities, Jewish people, other people. This is one of those topics I find really quite abhorrent so don't. Please just don't.

Now back to Buffy for a while. So, since SMG did that Cruel Intentions pilot, you think she'd be up for some sort of contribution to this one if it gets off the ground? She didn't skip the EW 20th Anniversary, so I guess it's not like she's completely moved away from the show since it ended for starters.



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Aug 5 04:39:47 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
The End of Nights (22.21)

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Aug 4 22:25:43 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yawn...what a nice, lazy day!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Aug 4 15:38:18 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today Saturday August 4th 2018 C.E.

We have TEN (10) Birthdays!


AmberSuzy
Andy Hallett as The Host Lorne Green (RIP)
Bridget aka scotlore
Dianne
Heliotrope
Lizza Slayer
Kouros
Rikki
ruyen
Tasma

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to AmberSuzy, Bridget aka scotlore
Dianne, Heliotrope,Lizza Slayer, Kouros, Rikki, ruyen, Tasma!



Two steaming cups of chocolate goodness. Courtesy of whomever I swiped it from out of the cupboard. Ben, 'Blood Ties'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
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Good morning beta!



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Comma says:
(Sat Aug 4 01:51:34 2018 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
Talking about the major mistake that Japan made in the attack on Pearl Harbor:

In 1971, when I was an instructor at the U.S. Army Airborne School at Fort Benning, GA, I had the good luck to talk to a Sergeant Major that was a WWII veteran. In fact, he had been thrown out of West Point, in late September 1941, and had gone through Field Artillery training, Fort Sill, OK, and arrived, as a private, to Hawaii, on December 4, 1941. He was sleeping, in the Army barracks, when the attack occurred. His statement to us, as we talked about history and WWII, was, 'The main mistake of the Japs was not missing the aircraft carriers in post. It was them not making the third wave of attack.'

The Japanese allowed the US to keep their fuel resources, located in storage tanks in the hills and away from the harbors, and they failed to take out the actual docks. We were able to refloat several battleships, repair them, fuel them, and, within 65 days, we had them back into the war. The United States, if they had lost the docks, would either have to rebuild them before the repair could have started or have tried to float the battleships to Oakland, CA, or Seattle, WA. We may not have gotten into the real war until 1943.

Comma



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Aug 4 00:14:29 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

My bad on chess exposition. I did not mean to say a good chess player does
not think ahead x moves, but that the x is not a large number. In a game
between two good chess players, both are going to be thinking ahead and yet
one's thinking is going to lead to a win and one to a defeat.1

After the US froze oil shipments, Japan calculated it had around a year's
supply. Unless they were willing to submit to the US' will, they would have
to access new supplies. The Dutch East Indies beckoned south. Japan reasoned
they could quickly take the European colonies in Southeast Asia, provided
the US did not interfere. The way to preventing the US from interfering was
to destroy US warships and aircraft based at Pearl. So here was Japan's game
plan ...

(1) Destroy US naval assets at Pearl.

(2) Take European colonies in SEA.

(3) Sue for peace with the US.


Japan accomplished #2 and came close to accomplishing #1.2 Japan
failed to accomplish #3, because they misjudged how the US would react to
the attack.

The dropping of the atomic bombs may have prevented a larger nuclear war
later. If we have only seen test drops and never seen the actual results of
a nuclear attack, might one or more of the nuclear powers been quicker to
use the bomb during the Cold War?


The South started the war naive. We've left, let's now be good neighbors.
From that point, they basically played defense hoping a series of successes
would lead Britain or France to ally with them and/or the North to lose the
will to continue.3 The latter almost happened. Grant's overland
campaign in the spring of 1864 eventually lead to Peterburg coming under
siege and Richmond threatened, but at an immense loss of Union lives.
4 The November election was not looking good for Lincoln. What
appears to have swung the North's attitude was Sherman's capture of Atlanta.

Scott proposed the Anaconda Plan and it did its job. OTOH, at the beginning
the North did not see the need for spending the time when "all" that seemed
necessary was to defeat the rebels in a big battle and capture Richmond.
Much of the war in the east was fought between Washington and Richmond. Each
spring the North would head south. They'd battle. The North would lose and
go home (Bull Run, the battles of the Peninsula campaign, Fredericksburg
(December)). Meanwhile in the west, the Union first worked the Anaconda Plan
along the Mississippi then down the valley from Chattanooga to Atlanta and
points south.

1 Both players may have a strategy, but unexpected changes on the
board mean strategies will have to change over the course of the game. Chess
doesn't offer the best analogy, because it's too small to really have
multiple levels of play. I imagine if this were a chess site, someone might
soon be bapping me, but I'd debate it. *g*

2 The carriers were out at sea. Folks also note Japan failed to
do any significant damage to the infrastructure and oil tanks that were
needed to repair and maintain the Fleet.

3 Davis and Lee thought a major victory on Northern soil might
have a similar result. Twice Lee attempted it. He failed both times, first
at Antietam and second at Gettysburg.

4 I recall some historian saying Grant loss more men during the
overland campaign than Lee had in the Army of Northern Virginia.



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Aug 4 00:06:29 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
I am still hereabouts!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Aug 3 21:28:26 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper I'm not sure what the kids these days use to chat about shows, I don't think they would hit up a linear board!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Aug 3 20:41:10 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: Chess - Well, yes and no. I would disagree with you a bit on the thinking moves ahead idea, as I think a big part of playing chess effectively is doing just that - thinking several moves ahead. Gaming things out in your head, so to speak. I think everything else you say is true, but I think the anticipation of future moves is also part of that.

WWII Japan: Japan's strategy was to quickly take the US out of the war with a quick, crippling first strike. It was the smart move. The more sober military minds in Japan knew that she could not likely win a protracted war with the US, unless several other (unlikely) scenarios took place. When that failed, the strategy was to draw out the war as long as possible, in the hope that A. the US populace would lose their stomach for it and force a peace or B. The Axis powers in Europe would triumph and then be able to turn East and lend direct aid to Japan. Neither happened.

I think you're spot on with the US strategy, which pretty much played out as anticipated. But fortunately (?) at the conclusion of the Pacific Campaign, when an invasion of Japan and the appalling casualties that would entail seemed inevitable, a third option presented itself with the Atom Bomb.

CIVIL WAR - The South's win conditions were pretty simple, just stay on defense and keep the North at bay until they either tired of the war or the European powers stepped in and recognized the Confederacy as a sovereign nation. Easier said then done, as it turns out.

The North's win conditions were to basically reconquer the Southern States and force them back to the flag. They had a strategy planned out for this, called the Anaconda Plan. Basically, the idea was to blockade the south and then split it down the middle with an invasion down the Mississipi, and then crush the divided remnants. Which was really a great idea on paper. However, it took the North 4 years of costly trial and error and quite a few changes in leadership to actually implement this, and very nearly lost the war in the process. But eventually, it worked.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Aug 3 20:32:12 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
home!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Aug 3 18:49:10 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Lostinamerica,

Last night on Youtube, I came across a video clip of that piece. It is so
well done. The music haunts. And Margaery's words to the the high sparrow
coot, ~ (damn the gods) Cersei knows the consequences of her absence and yet
she's absent (so) She does not expect to pay the consequences. We must all
leave now (RUN!!!!!). The Gods paid the high sparrow for that bit of pride
he barely concealed behind his piety. *g*


Agent Cooper,

I'd have to think on your observation. There is the cultural myth that great
chess players think dozens of moves ahead. They do not. Instead they know
hundreds or thousands of patterns of play, recognize the possibilities and
opportunities and innovate. Strategy is the approach used to achieve a major
or dominant end ...

... I started on this and then realized I do not have the time now to finish
it. *g* Anyway, consider these three cases ...


World War II in the Pacific

(1) Japan

What was Japan's goal(s) and what was the strategy Japan chose to achieve
it? When did the goal(s) change? Did the strategy change?

(2) USA

Before WII started, the US had already devised a strategy for fighting and
winning a war against Japan. Nutshell: Drive across the Pacific by capturing
specific islands to use as bases and springboards for the next islands. I'm
not certain we had a specific strategy for defeating Japan once we closed
within range to hit Japan with dominant force. In the 30's, the choice was
probably between a blockage or an invasion. Once we had strategic bombing
capability that also became a tool. But all three - bombing, blockage, or
invasion were aimed at persuading Japan to surrender.


US Civil War

(1) What was the South's goal? The Confederacy claimed it a right to leave
the Union and doing so was not an act of war. Live and let live folks - but
please remove all Union forces from our territory. Lincoln removed most all
Union forces but for Fort Sumter in Charleston, SC. Eventually South
Carolina fired and captured the Fort and the North declared war. Now what
was the South's strategy to defend itself?

(2) The North's original goal for starting the war was to force the southern
states back into the Union. Lincoln says as much in his letter to Horace
Greeley.1 What was the North's strategy to achieve this end?


Capture-the-Flag

We know the goal. What are some strategies?



I actually began this to look at the question asked me the other day, ~ Is
Reign as good as Crown or Victoria. My answer was to
non-committal, so the person upped it, Game of Thrones? *g*



1 It was in "The Gettysburg Address" that Lincoln expanded the
goal to ending slavery "mission creep"! *g*



WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Aug 3 17:20:38 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Is the Bronze going to be able to handle all the new folks that come in here when the show reboots?

We should put up some welcome signs, and maybe a registration table. With glossy pamphlets. Do you think streamers are too much?



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Aug 3 13:15:00 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard - Heh. The interesting thing about Cersei is that, while she is very good at eliminating her enemies, she is also very good at creating new ones in the process. It's an endless loop for her.

She has that ruthless Lannister cunning but she doesn't think things through, the way Tywin or Tyrion would.



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lostinamerica says:
(Fri Aug 3 12:54:53 2018 173.169.89.26) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard--LOL, so true!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Aug 3 12:22:42 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today Friday, August 3rd 2018 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


Adri
Blondymu
Ccool
foreverfan
Musicbuff
sparkly_roy

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Adri, Blondymu, Ccool, foreverfan, Musicbuff, sparkly_roy!



Buffy: You tossed that vamp like he was a... little teeny vamp. Riley: You wanna go again? C'mon. I bet this place is just teeming with aerodynamic vampires.
'Out of My Mind'''


to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Aug 3 12:12:39 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay xanderella!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Aug 3 12:00:31 2018 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for xanderella!

yay xanderella!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Aug 3 11:50:24 2018 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper Yes eGG was rpolfiic, but we still enver saw hisw rtie-ups for the Cleric (Mystic), Magic-user (Savant)Thief(Mountebank) and Jester character classes



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Aug 3 06:19:56 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
"Separation of church and state, by Cersei Lannister."


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Aug 3 05:29:44 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Aug 3 05:30:01 2018
Belated Yay Polgara!

Belated Deadguy Memorial Buffy Tuesday Question


What does Buffy do more regularly (or much better) at 35 than she did at 15
or 21?


Critical thinking and office politics.


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Aug 3 03:38:53 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Aug 3 03:39:32 2018
Agent Cooper,

I do not think Parker was saying writing was hard, rather she was saying
writing can lead to unhappiness. As to writer's block, it happens. OTOH, there
are ways to work around it. I believe it usually happens to people who
approach writing linearly, "Once upon a time .... stuff happens ... The End."


WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri Aug 3 02:07:55 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: History
Question: Who was the 2001 Nobel Peace Prize winner?

Answer: what notsoShyGirl said. I actually didn't research this answer!

I do believe Chuck Norris would be capable of bring peace into this world!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Aug 3 01:42:03 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
home!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Aug 3 00:48:16 2018 108.44.34.233) [Edit/Delete]
Chris Marlowe - Always nice to have dinner on the company dime. Hopefully that's the case.

Wolfguard: Gary Gygax (who was a truly prolific writer) was very hard on folks who said writing is hard. For instance, he believed writer's block was an excuse. He said when he had so called writers block he would force himself to write anyway. He said (and I'm paraphrasing) "even if I start 20 times and toss 20 papers in the trash, I'm STILL working and writing."



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Aug 3 00:29:16 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Didn't Buffy manage some working dinners?

WG



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cmarlowe says:
(Fri Aug 3 00:04:48 2018 107.167.126.100) [Edit/Delete]
working dinner tonite!



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Aug 2 21:18:12 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
"If you have any young friends who aspire to become writers, the second-
greatest favor you can do them is to present them with copies of The
Elements of Style.
The first-greatest, of course, is to shoot them now,
while they're happy. - Dorothy Parker

*g*


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Aug 2 17:03:37 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

"...There are many hurtful stereotypes. May we come in?"


LOL!


WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Aug 2 15:40:29 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Just saw this on the web. Lulz!

"Hello! Do you have a minute to talk about Dracula?"

"No- wait, Dracula?"

"Yes!"

"You're vampires?"

"Yes. We have pamphlets."

"Vampires have missionaries?"

"Where else would new vampires come from?"

"I assumed you bit people."

"There are many hurtful stereotypes. May we come in?"



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Aug 2 14:09:34 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Chuck Norris.

Chuck is actually awarded all humanitarian awards throughout the world by default. He then donates them to someone he feels most deserving, after himself.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu Aug 2 13:25:48 2018 206.124.19.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
It was awarded jointly to the UN
(United Nations) and Kofi Aman



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Aug 2 12:48:05 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: History
Question: Who was the 2001 Nobel Peace Prize winner?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Aug 2 12:26:19 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today Thursday, August 2nd 2018 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Eiddileg
Eire
Fergusmum
olddog

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Eiddileg, Eire, Fergusmum, olddog!



Zoe: Uh huh. River, honey? He's putting the hair away now. River: It'll still be there... waiting. 'Jaynestow''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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OldManFan says:
(Thu Aug 2 12:20:40 2018 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper - trivial? Did you say trivial?

*g

OMF



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Aug 2 12:14:21 2018 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for deadguy!

yay deadguy!


Happy CD Thursday!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Aug 2 12:09:17 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper If I could get paid for posting, I'd never leave!



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Dogmeat says:
(Thu Aug 2 02:46:58 2018 108.41.58.114) [Edit/Delete]
YAy Buffy Returns



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Aug 2 02:42:36 2018 108.44.34.233) [Edit/Delete]
Chris Marlowe - We all have real world priorities. If
its a choice between holding down a job that pays
for food and rent or posting on some trivial tv show
fan site, any reasonable person knows the
responsible answer.



So....when are you giving them your two week
notice? :-)



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Aug 2 02:37:33 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
I am still hereabouts!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Aug 2 00:46:48 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper I wish I could post during the day, but the job I have does not allow for that. Its all I can do to post the birthdays/trivia in the mornings and post at night. I hope to land a job where I can have a lot more freedom to surf and post and stuff.

Patti



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Aug 2 00:39:55 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: Who was destined to Comshuk with a Grooselug?
Answer: Cordelia

Trivia master: Richard Nixon's Left Cufflink!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Aug 2 00:31:00 2018 108.44.34.233) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick - Western Civilization as we know it is in imminent danger.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Aug 1 23:23:39 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Home!



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Maverick says:
(Wed Aug 1 23:11:51 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: The Princess of Pylea


Yay, Tommy Robinson was Freed (at least temporarily but he's no longer in imminent danger.)


Maverick


Spooky




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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed Aug 1 19:21:35 2018 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Klingon Show Trial the title of the article was "Naked At 34" and I heartily approve d of Dania



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Aug 1 18:58:52 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
So, is the topic, "spooky"?

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Aug 1 17:54:39 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Hey, Guys? Anybody around? Okay if you don't want to do the puppets, fine.

Guys?

I never thought about it but it's actually kind of spooky being in here all alone. I never realized how dim this place is, even during the day. We really need to get more lighting in here, especially if we're going to have more...

*ominous creak*

Um, what was that? Hello? Who's there? Willie is that you?

Uhhh...Guys.....



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Idiosyncratic Routine says:
(Wed Aug 1 15:32:03 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
This isn't as much fun when it's just me...



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Richard Nixon's Left Cufflink says:
(Wed Aug 1 14:43:10 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Cordelia.

Comshuk is some kind of strange Pylaen ritual, which I think had something to do with Backgammon...



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Klingon Show Trial says:
(Wed Aug 1 13:02:06 2018 165.225.38.81) [Edit/Delete]
Hey! Let's do sock puppets today! It'll be fun.

Daddycatalso: I don't know what "altogethers" means, exactly.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Aug 1 12:43:31 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: Who was destined to Comshuk with a Grooselug?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Aug 1 12:17:19 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today Wednesday, August 1st 2018 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


Demonic TeddyBear
gazoo
Nad_the_Lurker
Noshferatu
Pippin
Willow Wannabe

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Demonic TeddyBear, gazoo, Nad_the_Lurker, Noshferatu, Pippin, Willow Wannabe!



Right. Piano. Because that's what we used to kill that big demon that one time. No, wait. That was a rocket launcher. Xander, 'Spiralt''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Aug 1 12:05:58 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay malista!

deadguy qod

I think there would be some comment on Trump if not by name then lots of reference to an orange demon. Probably Kardashians would come up in some capacity too!

Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Aug 1 11:21:44 2018 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for malista!

yay malista!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

the sunnydale reference book - know absolutely everything about sunnydale

btvs mentioned many cultural references in its episodes, what current tv shows, books, celebrities, or trends would most certainly be included if the show were on now?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Aug 1 02:49:27 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard it was a long setup, but worth it for the punchline. valMichael would be proud. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Aug 1 02:08:39 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

A valMichael joke!

OTOH, Thoin would bap you with her purse. *g*


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Aug 1 00:33:59 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
n infinite number of mathematicians walk into a bar.

The first mathematician orders a beer

the second orders half a beer.

"I don't serve half-beers" the bartender replies

"Excuse me?" Asks mathematician #2

"What kind of bar serves half-beers?" The bartender remarks. "That's ridiculous."

"Oh c'mon" says mathematician #1 "do you know how hard it is to collect an infinite number of us? Just play along"

"There are very strict laws on how I can serve drinks. I couldn't serve you half a beer even if I wanted to."

"But that's not a problem"

mathematician #3 chimes in "at the end of the joke you serve us a whole number of beers. You see, when you take the sum of a continuously halving function-"

"I know how limits work" interjects the bartender

"Oh, alright then. I didn't want to assume a bartender would be familiar with such advanced mathematics"

"Are you kidding me?" The bartender replies, "you learn limits in like, 9th grade! What kind of mathematician thinks limits are advanced mathematics?"

"HE'S ON TO US" mathematician #1 screeches

Simultaneously, every mathematician opens their mouth and out pours a cloud of multicolored mosquitoes. Each mathematician is bellowing insects of a different shade.

The mosquitoes form into a singular, polychromatic swarm. "FOOLS" it booms in unison, "I WILL INFECT EVERY BEING ON THIS PATHETIC PLANET WITH MALARIA"

The bartender stands fearless against the technicolor hoard.

"But wait" he interrupts, thinking fast, "if you do that, politicians will use the catastrophe as an excuse to implement free healthcare. Think of how much that will hurt the taxpayers!"

The mosquitoes fall silent for a brief moment. "My God, you're right. We didn't think about the economy! Very well, we will not attack this dimension. FOR THE TAXPAYERS!" and with that, they vanish.

A nearby barfly stumbles over to the bartender. "How did you know that that would work?"

"It's simple really" the bartender says. "I saw that the vectors formed a gradient, and therefore must be conservative."



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Aug 1 00:29:15 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed Aug 1 00:30:06 2018
Christopher Marlowe,

My first thought was networks believe when viewers find a character or
characters they like, then they want to see them each week. An anthology has
to hook viewers each week and if an episode fails, then viewers may try
something else. That said, there have been some successful anthologies. Any
with super heroes?

Here's a variation on an old theme. During the 1970's NBC had the Mystery
Movie series. It consisted of four separate series each with a main
character.1 Each series ran once a month and each episode ran an
hour and a half. Perhaps a similar approach might work for a slayer
anthology. Begin with four past slayers, different times and different
places. See which ones find an audience, keep them. Those that don't ...
well, slayers had short lives. *g*


1 As I remember the first season's series were Columbo,
McCloud, Hec Ramsey,
and MacMillan and Wife (?). In later seasons
NBC tried other characters. If a series did well it staid on the Mystery
Movie line-up.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jul 31 23:56:14 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard You know, I would rather see an anthology of prior slayers rather than a reboot or sequel to the show.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Jul 31 23:13:16 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Who possesses Angelus in the episode 'I Only Have Eyes for You'?
Answer: Grace

Trivia Masters: notsoshyGirl
trivia newbies: Agent Cooper, Maverick



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Jul 31 19:50:06 2018 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper People magazine discovered a study a few years back that age 34 is when most women a re most comfortable with t heir bodies. So they did a pictorial with Dania (Potential Caridad) Ramirez, Laura Prepon, Pink, and one other , posing in their altogethers.



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Maverick says:
(Tue Jul 31 18:40:04 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Six-pack Too-poor


Posh is, of course, one of the Spice Girls.


Maverick


Mandy



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