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white wings says:
(Mon Apr 23 04:31:59 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Serina

Happy Birthday Angel's Gift, Dayzee, ronia, randomx, and TheStage!

Christopher Marlowe - Conserving energy seems like a most excellent way to celebrate Earth Day. I may have conserved a lot of energy myself. ;-)



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Apr 23 03:40:12 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Work to win the House this year. OTOH, I believe the Democrats have more seats
to defend than do the Republicans. OTO-OH, since incumbents tend to have the
advantage what does that actually mean? *g*

WG



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Comma says:
(Mon Apr 23 01:56:23 2018 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
Story of Adam & Eve's Dog

Adam and Eve said, 'Lord, when we were in the garden, you walked with us every day. Now we do not see you anymore. We are lonesome here, and it is difficult for us to remember how much you love us.'

And God said, I will create a companion for you that will be with you and who will be a reflection of my love for you, so that you will love me even when you cannot see me. Regardless of how selfish or childish or unlovable you may be, this new companion will accept you as you are and will love you as I do, in spite of yourselves.

And God created a new animal to be a companion for Adam and Eve.

And it was a good animal and God was pleased.

And the new animal was pleased to be with Adam and Eve and he wagged his tail.

And Adam said, 'Lord, I have already named all the animals in the Kingdom and I cannot think of a name for this new animal.'

And God said, 'I have created this new animal to be a reflection of my love for you, his name will be a reflection of my own name, and you will call him DOG.

And Dog lived with Adam and Eve and was a companion to them and loved them.

And they were comforted.
And God was pleased.
And Dog was content and wagged his tail.

After a while, it came to pass that an angel came to the Lord and said, 'Lord, Adam and Eve have become filled with pride. They strut and preen like peacocks and they believe they are worthy of adoration. Dog has indeed taught them that they are loved, but perhaps too well.'

And God said, I will create for them a companion who will be with them and who will see them as they are. The companion will remind them of their limitations, so they will know that they are not always worthy of adoration.'

And God created CAT to be a companion to Adam and Eve.

And Cat would not obey them. And when Adam and Eve gazed into Cat's eyes, they were reminded that they were not the Supreme Beings.

And Adam and Eve learned humility.
And they were greatly improved.

And God was pleased.
And Dog was happy.

And the Cat . . .
didn't give a sh** one way or the other.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Apr 22 23:56:08 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
I would rather have any current living former president than the guy who holds the office now.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Apr 22 20:48:38 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
For this Earth Day, a little marching a little picking up trash and conserving energy by not moving from my couch.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Apr 22 17:24:28 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Sunday, April 22nd 2018 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


Angel's Gift
Dayzee
ronia
randomx
TheStage

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Angel's Gift, Dayzee, ronia, randomx, TheStage



Monty: Whaddya mean she ain't my wife? Mal: She ain't your wife... cause she's married to me. 'Trash''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Apr 22 13:11:32 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Good morning beta!



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Apr 22 04:27:28 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Ebdim9th,

I've read that Joss used his own money to make the 20 minute pilot.

WG



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Maverick says:
(Sun Apr 22 02:20:54 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Does anyone else remember when Barbara Bush got sick back in 1989 and everyone was worried as Bush took office, having beaten Dukakis. And then Barbara showed up, looking healthy, BUT her eyes were like bugged-out. I remember being really worried about her. Turns out she had Graves Disease, a thyroid condition, which caused the eye situation. Graves was always one of those Dr. House, M.D., possible conditions of patients exhibiting weird symptoms.


Does everyone know that Adolph Hitler was almost named Adolph Schicklgruber? If you don't know what happened I'll explain it to you. I wonder if he could have been the same dynamic, charismatic leader with the last name Schicklgruber?


Maverick


It Might Be You




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Apr 22 02:01:17 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Anyone hereabouts?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 21 23:35:30 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I was just watching a bit of the news coverage of Barbara Bush's funeral. Oddly enough, it seems strange to realize she is actually gone.



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des says:
(Sat Apr 21 23:04:27 2018 75.117.229.229) [Edit/Delete]
This is a test of the password renewal system. If this had been a real post, a message or comment would have been typed. This concludes this test of the password renewal system.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 21 22:58:55 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Comma That is sad to hear, I read that he was having considerable issues lately.



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Comma says:
(Sat Apr 21 21:30:46 2018 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
R.I.P. Verne Troyer.

Comma



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Apr 21 16:13:07 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Saturday, April 21st 2018 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


Angel - Angelus - Liam
Avalonlmc
Karisma


Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Angel, Avalonlmc, Karisma!



Can I mop your brow? I am at the ready with the fearsome brow-mop. Wash, 'Objects In Space'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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Ebdim9th says:
(Sat Apr 21 13:33:45 2018 64.28.52.183) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sat Apr 21 13:44:32 2018
WG that came from MIB, Tommy
Lee Jones' line....

and Trivia Girl ,too, I saw
the unaired pilot of Buffy when it
used to be on Youtube, I'm sure it's
long gone by now ....

No, it's still there and, weird, appears to really be only 25 minutes long ...

Unaired Buffy Pilot here

Personally I think SMG was channeling Julia Louis Dreyfus in that version,
something that's toned way down in the aired version.....



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 21 06:31:43 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
after midnight and I am home from a long stretch manning an event. Now i'm off straight to bed!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri Apr 20 23:36:16 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Who originally played Willow in the unaired original pilot of Buffy The Vampire Slayer?
Answer: Riff Reagan

Trivia Directors: wolfguard!
Trivia Comedian: Maverick!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 20 23:28:51 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Finally home!!! But not for long!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Apr 20 23:10:25 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
I just took the "Meghan Markle UK Citizenship Test" on CNN's website.
Twenty-five questions on British society, culture, and politics. I passed!
*g*

All the questions were multiple choice. A few of them ...

- Match the phrase, ~Play was stopped by rain, with the sport? (4 given)

- Who pays (this or that) tax?

- How often does the Prime Minister appear before Parliament for Q&A?

- A question on the law pertaining to dog owners.


One of these I got wrong. Three of them I guessed (one of which I guessed
wrong). One I knew! (Q&A)


I am now proper British. The place where they make Giles. *g*


WG



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Maverick says:
(Fri Apr 20 20:01:42 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Conchita Fruitbaskethead.


Maverick


Turn The Beat Around




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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Apr 20 19:39:58 2018 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
The almanac column in my local daily paper often surrpises me. I recently found out actors PEter Mark Richman and Allen Drury are still alive. I also found out Drury a nd Elinor Donahue are a few years younger than I thought. their pic of SMG on her b'dayw as a fairly recent one



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Apr 20 18:39:12 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Apr 20 18:39:36 2018
Drive-By


I WATCH THE UNAIRED BUFFY PILOT SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO
March 20, 2014 by girlnone in Buffy the Vampire Slayer

A couple excerpts ...

"...where Not-Willow is almost reluctantly preparing to make out with the
boy she followed there. If he looks vaguely familiar, that's because he's
pre-Spike James Marsters...

... One of my main criticisms of Whedon is that he's too concerned with
being clever, even though the rapid-fire pop culture references aren't
organic to the character. There's a lot of that here, and I see now that the
final version of the script actually shows restraint."


Source:

https://nostalgiavision.wordpress.com/2014/03/20/i-watch-the-
unaired-buffy-pilot-so-you-dont-have-to/



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Apr 20 18:27:34 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl,

Riff Reagan


WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Apr 20 14:25:51 2018 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
RIP Bruno Sammartino



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri Apr 20 13:16:54 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Who originally played Willow in the unaired original pilot of Buffy The Vampire Slayer?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Apr 20 12:51:39 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Friday, April 20th 2018 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7) Birthdays!


Boromir
Circe
CoverGirl
Nuala
Untouchable
Valeri29
Whitehorse dreams

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Boromir. Circe, CoverGirl, Nuala, Untouchable, Valeri29, Whitehorse dreams!



Spike: Or maybe Captain Forehead was feeling a little less special. Didn't like me crashing his exclusive club, another vampire with a soul in the world. Angel: You're not in the world, Casper. 'Just Rewards (2'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Apr 20 12:45:57 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay serina!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Apr 20 11:00:31 2018 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for serina!

yay serina!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Fri Apr 20 10:38:26 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
ChristopherMarlowe, wolfguard--I was surprised too, that Barbara went
first--her husband looked like he was a lot worse off. And because of that, I
doubt he'll survive much longer :(



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Apr 20 05:54:11 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Tmorel!


ANGEL
I had to sing Barry Manilow.

FAITH
You're kidding.

ANGEL
In front of people.

FAITH
And here I am talking about my petty problems.

ANGEL
Just wanted to give you a little perspective.

FAITH
Copacabana?

ANGEL
Mandy. I don't want to dwell on it.

FAITH
The road to redemption is a rocky path.

ANGEL
That it is.

FAITH
Think we might make it?

ANGEL
We might

From the last scene of Judgment AtS 2.1



On the DVD after the Grr Argh monster does his grr argh, there's a voice-
over of David/Angel doing an impression of Elvis Presley saying, "Thank you.
Thank you very much."

Following it repeats the scene of Angel singing "Mandy", but as it
progresses it becomes David singing "Many". Angel is hesitant singing. David
is never hesitant. *g*



Good Night to All

WG



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white wings says:
(Fri Apr 20 03:08:09 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Yay TMorel

Happy Birthday Cate, Dark Ivory, drdan, Imo, Mr. Drdan, and PMSDemon!

Reporting in alive. Conscious thought still eluding me. Oh [insert deity of choice], Sunday and another 8am awakening and testing are approaching.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 20 02:43:37 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard What was the popular phrase? "nevertheless she persisted", Depending on how Trumps first term serves out, I don't rate her chances much.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Apr 20 01:59:51 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

She lived long. I believe you are right in your worry about Bush senior.

Somewhere today I read or heard speculation that Hillary might run again in
2020.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 20 01:55:49 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I think it was also surprising, because in general, women appear to live longer than men.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Apr 20 00:44:18 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Apr 20 00:46:29 2018
Ebdim9th,

Where does that line come from?


Christopher Marlowe,

Her death surprised me. I'd thought he would go first. Perhaps because the
attention was on him so the cameras were on him and I could see his decline;
whereas, less attention was on her?


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 20 00:16:22 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I worry about Bush senior, when couples have been married a long time, they don't long survive each other.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Apr 19 23:44:19 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Ack!!! I complete forgot the trivia!



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Ebdim9th says:
(Thu Apr 19 22:58:16 2018 64.28.52.183) [Edit/Delete]
"Are Ya'll makin' in fun of me?"
"No ma'am, we at the FBI have no
sense of humor that I'm aware of"
(prolly not quoting that right, in
all seriousness) Agent Cooper
WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Apr 19 18:17:41 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Drive-By

Belated Yay genrefan!!

Belated Yay Andeeh!


Deadguy Memorial Buffy Tuesday Question


What new Buffy item/product would you be most likely to buy - t-shirt,
book, poster, figure, etc.?


The lost 8th season DVD set. That fantasy aside, new BtVS trade paperbacks,
not the graphic novels.


Belated Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question

Is Angel still haunting LA. or has he been moving around?

Angel's been moving around.




WG



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Apr 19 12:53:08 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Thursday, April 19th 2018 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


Cate
Dark Ivory
drdan
Imo
Mr. Drdan
PMSDemon

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Cate, Dark Ivory, drdan, Imo, Mr. Drdan
PMSDemon!



Where's the praising and extolling of my virtues? Where's the love? Host, 'There's No Place Like Plrtz Glrb'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Apr 19 12:36:18 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay tmorel!


Happy CD Thursday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Apr 19 11:54:34 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
Yay! TMorel!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Apr 19 11:42:08 2018 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for tmorel!

yay tmorel!


Happy CD Thursday!



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white wings says:
(Thu Apr 19 05:12:23 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Andeeh!

Happy Birthday Angelina, Damia, DarkLady, Faiths Follower, Irishrose, Janet
Mejia, kathypg, Kurtis, Lark, Sara the Brown, and sian!


ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzflit



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Apr 19 02:46:46 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
Irishrose--Happy Birthday,
hope you had a lovely day!


Happy Birthday DarkLady!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Apr 19 02:16:21 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Back to Barbara
Bush....*g*



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Apr 19 01:11:58 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu Apr 19 01:13:00 2018
Agent Cooper,

There are drones that are controlled from afar and drones that are not. The
former are probably easier to hack, the latter not. Consider the following
model ...

Detection - Selection - Execution


"Selection" is the thinking step, what a computer's CPU mimics. If this step
is done within the drone, then the step may be difficult to hack.
1

"Detection" requires external inputs. It's susceptible to hacking. One can
monkey with what the detector's senses. Of course, this is also true for
humans. What is camouflage but a form of hacking human senses?

It's also important to consider exactly what is being hacked. When we talk
about AI and robots we often assume "thinking" is being done by some sort of
electronic computational device. Data is represented in binary code and is
manipulated through various combinations of logic gates. Human brains
probably don't work quite this way and to the extent AI mimics human brains
it will be less vulnerable to computer hacking tactics, techniques, and
procedures. To me, the big question for military autonomous vehicles is
whether or not a human will be be in the D-S-E loop and if so, what will be
their role. We may get some idea by watching how autonomous land vehicles
fare over the next few years.

I do not think we'll see "soldier" robots, though we may see robots with
specialized military functions, e.g. laying and clearing minefields or
providing close air defense. I believe armor and artillery units will see
robots or robotic devices before the infantry.

Cyborgs exist today, but think there are very few - any any - with
artificial cognitive processes in the mix. Now and then I read about devices
which allow people to move fingers, hands, limbs through thought but that's
not generalized intelligence. I imagine computers of various sorts could be
embedded or attached to people, but isn't that just literally embracing
one's cell phone? *g*

More later


1 The situation may be similar to a computer with an air-gap
between it and the internet. OTOH, a significant number of experts think the
'air-gap' defense is not much of a defense. Stuxnet defeated the air gap.



ETA Christopher Marlowe,

At least for one side. *g*



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Apr 19 00:50:37 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper, wolfguard It's like with the drones/robots, there is an attempt to have what amounts to a bloodless war.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Apr 18 23:34:43 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit


Category: Angel
Question: What hotel room number features prominently in 'Are Your Now or Have you Ever Been'?
Answer: 217

Trivia Mogul: notsoShyGirl



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Apr 18 23:28:18 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
finally home...what a weird day.



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Irishrose says:
(Wed Apr 18 21:37:30 2018 66.230.63.148) [Edit/Delete]
comes streaking through in a
drive by


Thank you, thank you, for the
lovely birthday wishes both here
and elsewhere!



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Apr 18 14:35:16 2018 206.124.19.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
217



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Apr 18 13:35:24 2018 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: I find your reality based arguments tedious and un-fun. Both X-wing and Tie Fighters use a type of advanced ion thruster engine, which can run almost indefinitely on little or no fuel. So your argument about propellant is irrevelant.

Thppt. :-)

Seriously* though, my original point stands I think. Even today where governments are experimenting with using drones for war, there is still much caution advised. And we are in the early stages of this. I say there will be a short era where unmanned drones and robot soldiers rule the battlefield, until a war or two is lost because hackers on the other side are able to disable or co-opt the enemy's bots. Then you'll see a transition back to human soldiers and human controlled drones as it becomes too risky and near impossible to protect against this.

Or at least partly human.

From where we are now it looks like what we will see evolve are highly cyber-enhanced humans operating everything. With a Cyborg, you get the best of both worlds. The sheer computing power, speed and accuracy of a CPU mated with the judgment, creativity and adaptability of the human mind.

*Vague Disclaimer - "Seriously" is a relative term at best when it comes to Agent Cooper's posts. At best.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Apr 18 13:22:35 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What hotel room number features prominently in 'Are Your Now or Have you Ever Been'?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Apr 18 12:59:26 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Wednesday April 18th, 2018 C.E.

We have ELEVEN (11) Birthdays!


Angelina
Damia
DarkLady
Faiths Follower
Irishrose
Janet Mejia
kathypg
Kurtis
Lark
Sara the Brown
sian

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Angelina, Damia, DarkLady, Faiths Follower, Irishrose, Janet Mejia, kathypg, Kurtis, Lark, Sara the Brown, sian!



Patron: That girl is a witch. Mal: Yeah, but she's our witch. 'Safe''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Apr 18 12:40:03 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay andeeh!


deadguy qod

I think Angel has been moving around. I really can't see him sticking with LA.


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Apr 18 11:19:15 2018 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for andeeh!

yay andeeh!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

sunnydale realty - houses suddenly added to the market every day

is angel still haunting l.a. or has he been moving around?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Apr 18 04:22:48 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

I don't know enough about her and the Bush family to know. What do you think?

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Apr 18 03:04:25 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Is there a legacy
to be had with (the now late)
Barbara Bush?



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Apr 18 01:10:54 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO,

There are only three realistic roles for small-manned spacecraft in
interplanetary or interstellar war: (1) short-distance transport between
warships, (2) low planetary orbits, and (3) space/atmosphere hybrids.

Around a star all objects move in orbits. Slow-down a spacecraft and it
drops into an orbit closer to the star.1 Speed-up it up and its
orbit expands away from the star. Moving around a solar system consist of
patching together the right orbits. "Dogfights" in space burn propellant
ships don;t have to burn. By definition, small spacecraft cannot carry much
in the way of propellant, weapons, sensors, and life-support. One would be
better off launching mines or even rocks.

Launching aircraft from naval ships makes sense because by traveling in a
less dense medium the aircraft can move much faster. And because the can
move up, they can get a better view. They can carry enough fuel that
combined with the maneuvering possibilities created by air and gravity an
aircraft can range across a wider envelope. But for spaceships and small
spacecraft the medium is the same, There's no advantages in having small
fighter spacecraft.2


That said, science fiction is about speculation. Imagine space consist of
more than the four dimensions we're familiar. Imagine there's a 5th
dimension, but it's not accessible to all sized spacecraft. Imagine only
small spacecraft can travel through it - and they do so at faster speeds
than large spacecraft and/or there're 'wrinkles in time' or 'wormholes" or
"dazzlelight." Anyway, the fiction creates the logic that lets you use small
fighter spacecraft (SFS).

OTOH, once these SFS return to normal space they face the same constraints
noted above. So what advantage do they give? Imagine sensors don't penetrate
the 5th dimension. SFS' then might be used for raids and ambushes.
3 OTOOH, they have limited fuel so they're not going to have much
time on target. How might they fight? Think the video game, "Asteroid".

Choose a course than lays you alongside the target's course, then rotate the
SFS so its weapon is pointing towards the target and let it rip. Since the
target may fire back, you could decline a matching course and instead choose
a course that cut ahead or behind the target, then again rotate the SFS to
line up your weapon and again let it rip.4 As you crossed the
target's course you'd adjust your aim as needed. Eventually you'd run out
munitions or energy or range or become low on propellant, so transit back
into the 5th dimension and return home.


1 If there's a nearby planet then the spacecraft might fall into
orbit around it. It's also possible to use a planet to get a boost and/or
make a sharp change in direction.

2 Again excepting possible low -planetary orbits and craft
designed to fight across the two mediums of space and atmosphere.

3 A raid is an ambush on a stationary target. Debate.

4 If you've played "Asteroid" you probably have used this tactic.
It may be the most common tactic in the game.


WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Apr 18 00:38:33 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Who was the jock Willow tutored in Dopplegangland?
Answer: Percy West

Trivia Coaches: NotsoShyGirl!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Apr 17 18:27:09 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Lostinamericas & Agent Cooper,

I do not engage in any personal banking online. However, businesses and
governments try hard to 'nudge' me to do so. For instance, while the US
government still provides various tax forms at libraries and the like, the
state of Georgia no longer does so. One can print forms from online, but
Georgia really wants people to submit forms online.


DaddyCatALSO,

I've only seen a few episodes from each of the Trek franchises that followed
the original. I simply do not remember if the fly-by views were accompanied
by sound effects. Thinking back on it, I don't remember the original episode
including sound effects for the ship in orbit, but think it did when the
ship was shown warping through space. The sound effect was in the main title
credits. Oh! I believe the movies and perhaps the various series use sound
effects for the ships when the go into warp.

Main point, space ships do not emit noise that is heard outside the ship,
because there is no medium to transmit the sound waves. OTOH, space ships
can be very noisy inside. A website excerpt ...


"...Early ISS crewmembers wore earplugs or noise-canceling headphones for
hearing protection during the work day. Sound-absorbing baffles and
equipment upgrades installed over the past 15 years have lowered the cabin
noise levels to a point where protection is not required. At night,
crewmembers sleep in their soundproofed crew quarters, giving their ears a
chance to rest and recover. Regular audiometer tests help the crew detect
any hearing changes before permanent damage is done.

Crewmembers regularly send sound level meter readings to Mission Control so
noise levels inside the station can be carefully monitored. Any change in
noise levels might indicate a faulty fan or pump, or even a leak in the
ships hull..."

Read more at https://www.airspacemag.com/ask-astronaut/ask-astronaut-it-
quiet-onboard-space-station-180958932/#ggfVewtWrxOFUMr0.99


I recall reading a short article in some space or science magazine that said
the noise on a space station, probably the ISS, was as loud or louder than
the flight deck of an aircraft carrier. There was also an non-fiction book
on the hazards of space travel that introduced each chapter with a fictional
merchant spacefarer giving an example of what the chapter would cover. This
spacefarer spoke of once waking up because the spaceship had become quiet.
It was never quiet. Quiet meant something was wrong.

More on 'small' spaceships and space battle later.


WG



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cmarlowe says:
(Tue Apr 17 16:27:20 2018 107.167.126.96) [Edit/Delete]
daddycatalso

i never thought about spaceships being quiet before!



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Apr 17 15:22:01 2018 206.124.19.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Percy West



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Apr 17 14:24:18 2018 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
white wings Being able to destroy a planet isn't much use for anything else; it's like using a nuke as an anti-riot weapon.

wolfguard Agent Cooper I've been watching a lot of Trek lately and have never noticed any noise from spacecraft; doesn't mean it's not there, but I haven't noticed it.
I wonder if we have any idea *how* small spacecraft fighting would look; there is no need to bank your turns in space.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Apr 17 13:26:32 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Who was the jock Willow tutored in Dopplegangland?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Apr 17 13:11:05 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Tuesday, April 17th 2018 C.E.

We have THREE (3Birthdays!


Ch@risma17
ILerk
Sarah Louise

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Ch@risma17, ILerk, Sarah Louise!



Buffy: How was school today? Dawn: The usual. A big square building filled with boredom and despair. Buffy: Just how I remember it. 'Blood Ties'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Apr 17 12:46:35 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay genrefan!

deadguy qod

Good question! I would most likely buy one of those Funko figurines or maybe a Lego figurine.

Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Apr 17 12:11:16 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper--Precisely why I use cash and paper checks whenever
possible and do not set up automatic payments online :)



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Apr 17 11:44:59 2018 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for genrefan

yay genrefan!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

the slayer store - anything and everything buffy

what new buffy item/product would you be most likely to buy - t-shirt, book, poster, figure, etc.?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Apr 17 02:41:28 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

3 of 3: "Space War"

I. Space Travel as We Know It, i.e. rocket science

First while small fighters might have a role between low orbit and planetary
surface, they will have no role in deep space. They are simply too small to
carry enough propellant to do much useful beyond transporting people from
one spaceship to another close by, i.e. they might serve the space
equivalent of a rowboat.1

Inter-solar space combat will more likely resemble 18th century sailing
ships or WWI battleships. Ships will be large. And because space ships are
hot spots in the cold of space, they will be detected at a distance. Battles
will usually occur only because both sides want to fight. If one side
chooses not to fight, they'll usually be able to run away.2


II. Star Wars/Star Trek aka Faster-Than-Light (FTL)

Given the technologies are all made-up, a writer has a lot of maneuver room
towards creating a world where whatever he wants to happen can happen. That
said, once one creates the rules of a verse then readers or viewers can make
a claim to expecting the rules to be consistent.

A major problem for the "Star Trek" verses is warp speed makes it almost
impossible to initiate a battle in space unless both parties want to fight
and people cannot think or act fast enough to have a role in it.

What's the effective range of a phaser or photon torpedo? I'm sure now there
all sorts of reference books and web pages, but since they may offer
different figures, I'm going to use one I remember from the early 70's: a
ship-mounted phaser's range was around 100,000 miles. From an earth-bound
perspective that is impressive (the distance around the equator is ~25,000
miles). In space, that's spitting distance.

Consider that the speed of light is around 186,000 miles a second. For
convenience let's say a phaser has an effective range also of 186,000 miles.
Assume your starship is able to fire its phasers in any direction. This
means the ship can fire at any target 186,000 miles away from it.

Now imagine this starship is moving at the speed of light. If the ship
encounters a target, then unless the target is moving on a parallel course,
then it will be out of range in 1 second, Don't sneeze Kirk.

If the ship is moving faster than light and the target is not moving at the
same speed and course, then there's even less time to engage. What just
happened???3

The effective weapons' ranges are so small compared to the ships' speeds
that unless the ships almost lock themselves into combat range then there's
not going to be any battles.4 Perhaps that's the real reason for
tractor beams? If sensors detect an enemy ship, then as it passes in range
lock onto it? (I'm trying to envision braking a another ship traveling FTL
with your own ship traveling FTL. Anyway, unless both ships can be put on
the same course at the same speed, then there's going to be no time for
exchanging shots much less dialog.


1 The fighter craft seen in "Star Wars" and "Battlestar
Galactica" result from writers imagining WWI dogfights and WWII carrier
battles being analogs for how space battles might be fought. From a
scientific and engineering perspective, it's a poor analogue. OTOH, it's
well-tuned for viewers' expectations. When Roddenberry and company were
first creating "fly-by's" of Enterprise they included no sound. It
did not work well for test audiences so they added the sound. The first
television science fiction I saw that showed spacecraft moving through space
without sound was Firefly. It can be effective. Rewatch the scenes in
Our Mrs Reynolds as "Serenity" takes on the salvage vultures' space
station.

2 This is also true for real-world naval combat. If the other
side does not want to fight, then they either have to be ambushed or for one
reason or another unable to flee.

3 Ignoring relativistic effects

4 Unless you can sabotage their systems, e.g. what happened to
Excelsior in Star III: The Search for Spock.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Apr 17 01:33:01 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Now for some coffee and conversation.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Apr 17 01:23:41 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

2 of 3: Networks

One of the concepts currently used by the USN in thinking about fighting and
designing weapon systems is "distributed lethality". Essentially the idea is
all platforms - aircraft, subs, ships of all classes - can carry some sort
of weapons and sensors AND if they are all networked together, then they can
share information and weapons. A platform may not have the weapon needed for
the situation is sees, but it can call on another platform that does. Mix
and match. By sharing what each senses, a more complete picture emerges that
is beyond the capabilities of each platform.

Problems exist. An enemy can possibly jam communications. They may be able
to listen in or distort information or create a deception. Perhaps they fake
commands or even take control of systems. A more insidious effect is growing
lack of trust in received information. Who really is calling this shot?

Nevertheless, the Navy sees distributed lethality as an uber-force
multiplier and nothing risked, nothing gained.



WG



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Adri says:
(Tue Apr 17 01:19:25 2018 192.154.165.126) [Edit/Delete]
Thank you, white wings, Christopher
Marlowe, lostinamerica and Yay of
the Day!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Apr 17 01:01:53 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
White Wings,

R2D2 ~transport beam of Star Wars~ *G*


Agent Cooper,

1 of 3: "Human-in-the-Loop"

I don't know about the USAF, but the US Navy is debating, experimenting, and
using drones across all mediums (air, surface, underwater). Some of their
advantages over human-piloted aircraft...

- Potential to perform maneuvers that humans could not tolerate or tolerate
well.

- No pilot fatigue1

- Less expensive

- Being smaller, potentially more of them can be deployed on a carrier. More
types of ships could be equipped with aerial assets. *g*

- Political leaders get more options, insomuch that losing a drone does not
have the political cost of losing a pilot.


Naval aviators and their proponents tend to frown upon drones and will offer
counters to the above. One criticism, not included above, is a human on the
spot is better able to assess the situation that can a computer/AI. They
also argue that computers/AI cannot handle problems they are not programmed
to handle. The question is whether this will always be the case.


1 Some drones are flown by humans from afar. They can become
fatigued, but them they can more easily switch-out pilots. Some believe a
pilot really has to be sitting in the cockpit to have full situational
awareness. This goes beyond this post; however, one officer said looking at
the battlefield using drone cameras was like watching a football game
through a soda straw. But, this was one man's view and I don't know the
specifics of the technology he was using.



WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Apr 17 00:08:06 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: Movies
Question: Who played young Tom Edison in Young Tom Edison?
Answer: Mickey Rooney

Trivia Stars: notsoShyGirl
Trivia Asteroid: Agent Cooper

Trivia Tom Swifty: werewolf123



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white wings says:
(Mon Apr 16 21:54:21 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Adri!

Happy Birthday ageless#2, buffygirl, Lil'Slayee, Scourge of Europe, and Seraphim!

Agent Cooper - One of the more curious things in Star Wars is that while the Empire could destroy planets with its machines, one little droid could hook up to an access port and tell where prisoners were, and who was scheduled to be terminated, and manage the garbage systems. There's no telling what it could have done if there'd been time to root around. R2D2 was the transport beam of Star Wars in terms of plot convenience.

lostinamerica - Well, at least I slept later today than I did on Sunday, and the work call was over quickly. I'd have felt better if the security group had actually learned in the past 14 years what system our application runs on when they spoke of running scans against it. Ah well, we were always the red-headed stepchild. *g* Alas, when I agreed to a go/no go decision on installing what we tested yesterday, I thought there would be a meeting of managers that did not include me, and an install next Sunday that was over long before I woke up. Alas, no, it involves being up and logged in and on the phone at 8am again, with a final final test, followed by a decision. But it's a beautiful day out again, and I went for a walk in the sun, which is still not too hot at midday.



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Apr 16 20:30:26 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

Your post on drones, etc. will the touchstone of my posts tonight. *g*

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Apr 16 18:52:41 2018 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Yahoo Serious.



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werewolf123 says:
(Mon Apr 16 17:10:22 2018 68.12.68.234) [Edit/Delete]
Question: Who played young Tom Edison in Young Tom Edison?

Young Tom Swift.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Apr 16 14:35:58 2018 206.124.19.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Mickey Rooney



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Apr 16 13:38:31 2018 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
I know we've had this convo before, and I said this already, but as far as drones for war, see Star Wars.

The folks in the Star Wars universe have some very impressive tech, including drones. But notice they don't use them that much for warfare. Most of the time you see, say, a space fighter, it's got a live pilot in it. Not always, but almost always. Why? Because tbey have to.

They've come full circle with the tech that controls that stuff as far as security is concerned. If you have a whole fleet of starships controlled by a computer, then that computer is liable to be hacked. If the computer is hacked, your impressive fleet of starships can now be turned on YOU. Your enemy only has to get access to or destroy whatever CPU that controls your ships to defeat your powerful military.

Just like today in our world, there's a constant battle on between hackers and security pros to compromise/protect computer networks. No matter how good the firewall is, there's always somebody who figures out how to beat it. As the security gets stronger the crooks get better. It's a constant arms race. There is NO network that will ever be totally safe.

So eventually you get to a point were it's just better and safer to go backwards a few steps and stay there. That's why there's live, biological pilots flying ships in Star Wars. Drones are too big a risk. And I honestly think here in the real world there will be a point where this happens.

For instance, soon it will just be safer to write and mail paper checks and use cash than have any money floating around online. I can honestly see us going back to some of the old systems as the computer networks become more and more porous. The convenience won't be worth the risk.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Apr 16 13:23:19 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits[/I]

Category: Movies
Question: Who played young Tom Edison in Young Tom Edison?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Apr 16 12:53:12 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Monday, April 16th 2018 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


ageless#2
buffygirl
LilSlayee
Scourge of Europe
Seraphim

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to ageless#2, buffygirl, Lil'Slayee, Scourge of Europe, Seraphim!



Everyone's getting spanked but me. Willow, 'The I in Team''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Apr 16 12:41:03 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay adri!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Mon Apr 16 11:37:47 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
white wings--Gee, hope today
goes better :)


Yay! Adri



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Apr 16 11:10:48 2018 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for adri!

yay adri!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Apr 16 05:11:41 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Mon Apr 16 05:14:09 2018
Godspeed Mr. Ermey

WG



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white wings says:
(Mon Apr 16 04:00:12 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Birthday Kendra, newfan, OzLady, Prospero, and Sentinel!

Beautiful weather in CenTex today. No snow, no rain, gentle sun, blue sky. Perhaps a little excess of pollen. I spent the entire morning logged in to work for a scheduled test, and the early afternoon sleeping off the morning.

Christopher Marlowe - From a snow day on a Friday to sunshine on Sunday must be a rare delight!

I have no thoughts on robots. Or Zuckerberg. I don't want to think about either. I need to go back to bed. I agreed to get up tomorrow for work, too. Why did I do that? I don't work on Moandays. *whine*



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Apr 16 03:02:17 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard You know, for all the talk about using robots for war, the only thing that seems close to that is drones.



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lostinamerica says:
(Mon Apr 16 02:38:38 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Birthday Ozlady!



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Comma says:
(Mon Apr 16 01:34:42 2018 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
R.I.P. R. Lee Ermey. God has another Marine to guard the gold paved streets of heaven.

Charles



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Apr 16 00:02:47 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Ebdim9th,

Silly robots. You'll first have to form a proper queue. *g*


WG



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Ebdim9th says:
(Sun Apr 15 22:57:59 2018 174.235.139.156) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sun Apr 15 23:01:00 2018
CM we finally got on the same weather page! Maybe its weather control drones ... :P weather can really mess with one's workday expectations ....lightning and rain overnight causing computer and transmitter glitches...



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Apr 15 22:16:44 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Ebdim9th How goes it today?



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Ebdim9th says:
(Sun Apr 15 19:34:21 2018 174.235.139.156|64.28.52.183) [Edit/Delete]
WG "We shall turn your green cards blood red!" *mechanical maniacal laugh*



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Apr 15 19:04:15 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
I'ts a fine and dandy, sunshiny day!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Apr 15 12:47:59 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Sunday, April 15th 2018 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


Kendra
newfan
Ozlady
Prospero
Sentinel

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Kendra, newfan, OzLady, Prospero, Sentinel!



And almost sixty-five percent of that was actual compliment. Is that a personal best?
Xander, 'Becoming (1)'


to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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lostinamerica says:
(Sun Apr 15 11:58:14 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Belated Birthday Glow Boy!



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Apr 15 03:23:42 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Ebdim9th,

They'd need green cards.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 14 23:55:20 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard[/b[] You Lucky Atlanteans!



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Ebdim9th says:
(Sat Apr 14 20:57:39 2018 174.235.140.174) [Edit/Delete]
WG what if the killer robots have overpopulated Mars and are on their way here?

We've traded precipitation(s?) CM what was snow there is about to become thunderstorms here....



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Apr 14 19:27:28 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Drive-By

~ Fearing a risk of killer robots is like worrying about overpopulation on
Mars.

- Andy Ng



No snow in Atlanta today!

*g*


WG



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Apr 14 14:32:48 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Saturday, April 14th 2018 C.E.

We have EIGHT (8) Birthdays!


Angel_Bear
Dr_Faustus
Fangs
Glow Boy
Lilangel
Sarah Michelle Gellar as Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Sir Angelalex242
Velocity Girl

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Angel Bear, Dr. Faustus, Fangs, Glow Boy, Lilanger, SMG, Sir Angelalex242, Velocity girl!



And I wonder, what possible catastrophe came crashing down from heaven and brought this dashing stranger to tears? Drusilla, 'Fool for Love''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 14 13:27:48 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Good morning beta. AT least it is not snowing today!



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Ebdim9th says:
(Sat Apr 14 03:25:21 2018 174.235.147.99) [Edit/Delete]
Meant to drop by before now, hi everybody, good night everybody....



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Apr 14 03:00:44 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

He doesn't use Facebook? The article says he begins his day checking Facebook
and has a squad of 12 employees who "eliminate" inappropriate comments and
update his Facebook page.

In the article he comes across as a figurehead, like Prince William or Harry.
So the question becomes, who is Facebook's Prime Minister?

*g*


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 14 02:29:56 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sat Apr 14 02:31:37 2018
wolfguard No specifics,

Day in the LIfe of Mark Zuckerberg



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Apr 14 00:45:11 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

What are some specific examples of his being out-of-touch?

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Apr 14 00:41:38 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Zuckerberg has often been seen as a little odd. Granted not an unusual trait in a CEO. However he doesnt' use facebook himself and appears out of touch in a lot of areas. So I question his ability as CEO when he doesn't appear to be very aware himself.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Apr 13 23:46:47 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

A successful CEO is like the captain of a ship. Where am I. Where do I want
to go? What track do I take? Who and what do I need to operate the ship.
What ways do I set up to monitor and correct the crew to keep the ship on
course. How do I know when I need to change the plan? How do I need to know
when I need to change the goal?

Off that last question. Steve Jobs said Apple started to work on what was to
become the iPad before the iPhone. The iPad was the goal. But as they were
developing the screen for the iPad he realized a screen could be small
enough to change tracks and develop the iPhone first.

Another story. Some think the internet caught Bill Gates and Microsoft by
surprise. Gates is suppose to have said, at the time, that the future would
remain the desktop PC. And then came Netscape. Oops. Does the common belief
jibe with reality? In an interview Gates said they were not that much behind
the curve. They were aware of the potential of the Internet, but it was
around number 7 or 8 on their list of concerns. Once they became aware of
the real threat Netscape and its like posed, Microsoft shifted their efforts
towards web browsers and the like.



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 13 22:14:58 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I tihink a fair number of CEO are 'idea' people, but leave the actually implementation of said ideas to others.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 13 20:41:04 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCAtALSO What was the question?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Apr 13 19:17:52 2018 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe :-)! (Any reaction to my silly question?)



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Apr 13 18:36:50 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Lostinamerica,

It may be "unacceptable", but there are many CEOs who are overwhelmed by their
companies and industries. Some are not even aware that they are. *g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 13 18:07:29 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO I miss you when you do answer the trivia and I credit you when you don't. Maybe I'll get it right the next time!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Apr 13 16:44:30 2018 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick S-f- writers were using Luna for the moon, a nd the nation a made up of its colonists, before BarBara Luna was born, or at the latest when she was a small child.

Trivia Girl I was not involved with yesterday's quiz.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Apr 13 14:07:32 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Friday, April 13th 2018 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


Jessie
Lazarus
TFW

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Jessie, Lazarus, TFW!



My heart expands / 'tis grown a bulge in't / inspired by / your beauty effulgent.
William, 'Fool for Love''


to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Apr 13 13:48:14 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay vampslayer!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!

Congratulations people! Snow is
here and my office is closed. I
can hang out here alll dayyyy
longggg!



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lostinamerica says:
(Fri Apr 13 12:57:24 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard--Check out an article in the Washington Post titled: Fact-
checking Mark Zuckerberg's Testimony on Facebook and Data Collection."

Be afraid, be very afraid.



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lostinamerica says:
(Fri Apr 13 12:34:02 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard--That is completely unacceptable, "overwhelmed by leading (?) a
company with the power of Facebook." Facebook is a 350 billion dollar company
that employs 25,000 people who are depending on him to make the decisions needed
to keep the company afloat--either put on your big boy pants and do what's needed
or hire someone who can.


Yay! Vampslayer!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Apr 13 11:33:18 2018 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for vampslayer!

yay vampslayer!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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white wings says:
(Fri Apr 13 03:55:28 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Niblet!

Happy Birthday Babs, Beldaran, Big_Red, BuffFrog, Cleio, Kelly Schultz, Margot Le Faye, Tidorg, Nicholas Brendon, and uslayme!

DaddyCat ALSO - The problem with Universal Basic Income is that someone still has to pay for it. That whole "From each according to his means, to each according to his needs" lured a lot of people, but it never seemed to work out well. A few people were very powerful and wealthy, and the rest were just barely surviving, at least the ones that weren't killed. Also, what wolfguard said.

Hi, Comma. Bye Comma. Keep looking after the world, we'll hold down the beta for you.

Maverick - Sharp as a knife, Ann Coulter. Agree or disagree as one wishes, but she does her research, and she makes her point.

lostinamerica - With a motto like "move fast and break things", I'm going with "doesn't care". Actually I'm sure he's very sorry that there is any possibility that his data might have aided Republicans, maybe even sorrier that it came out. His apology might be to the Left, not the people whose data was used. I'm sure that with midterm elections coming on, the full set of data is even now being rummaged through by DNC operatives. Now we have to worry about data he's garnered on people who aren't on FB, too. I'm not even sure if he's a megalomaniac who wants a lot of power himself. He may be trying to create power for a cause.

wolfguard - No worries about last night. I was enjoying being mindless and went to bed. I'm thinking about doing the same tonight. Aaack! I didn't get away before you posted something to make me think. *whimper* I can't. It's saved.

Night!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Apr 13 02:03:04 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
White Wings,

What are the origins of mass-produced manufacturing? Very simply put, ways
were found for creating large numbers of physical goods and ways for large
numbers of people to buy them. In the course of this evolution agriculture
was mechanized. Fortunately the machinery needed to run by people, lots of
people. People who no longer find work on the farm and many who did want to
work on the farm, moved to factory towns and got jobs.

Owners and managers have always searched for the most profitable mix of man-
machine for a given process. It seems the trend is towards fewer people and
more machines. We have comforted ourselves with the belief that machines
could not replace human cognitive processes. Today, such a belief is not as
comforting. I rust, therefore I am. If one projects the trend the time
comes when owners may have to worry about who has the income to consume what
their machines produce.

This leads to the thought of parallel economies. If I can't find a job
earning income, then I will have to find other ways of supporting myself and
family. If there are large numbers of such people, then perhaps another
economy evolves where people use older technologies to provide goods. It may
be barter, it may run on a second currency, it may use legal tender. The
specifics may depend on how quick everything happens. Too much time and
people procrastinate away their opportunities. Too little time, crash and
panic. We could use some Goldilock time. *g*


WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Apr 12 23:39:37 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: Spaaaaaaaace
Question: What is the 7th rock from the sun?
Answer: Uranus! Not a body part!

Trivia masters of the universe...notsoShyGirl

But Quatlooos for Maverick and DaddyCatALSO.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Apr 12 23:25:15 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
home! but only for a little while...I have final performance tonight. I should be back to my regularly schedule annoying self tomorrow.



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Maverick says:
(Thu Apr 12 21:26:43 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO: YES! [tongue in cheek] Named after Barbara (or BarBara) Luna who guest-starred in the Star Trek TOS episode "Mirror, Mirror" (that's the one the Transporter malfunctions and throw them into an alternate universe where Spock has a beard.)


Maverick


You Don't Have To Say You Love Me




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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu Apr 12 20:32:29 2018 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick Luna



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Maverick says:
(Thu Apr 12 19:30:25 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Well, literally? Probably Deimos. Not counting asteroids, it could be Mars, Phobos, or Deimos, depending on when we do our counting. Let's see (considering all moons on the far side [farthest away from the Sun]) of their planets: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Moon (notice, interestingly, our Moon does not really have a name--any suggestions? I like Fred), Mars, Phobos, Deimos.


I had a scarlet cashmere scarf that I loved and I had it "hidden" inside the arm of a coat for a year or so, but when I recently looked at it, the moths had evidently gotten to it. How should I have protected it (short of those stinky moth balls)?


Maverick


Baker Street




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wolfguard says:
(Thu Apr 12 17:59:20 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Drive-By

White Wings,

I got pulled away from the computer last night, but will reply later
tonight. :(


Lostinamerica,

My current hypothesis is that he might be both baffled and overwhelmed.
Baffled by the members of Congress whose questions, some of them, suggest
they are not that familiar with social media technology and practices.
Overwhelmed by leading (?) a company with the power of Facebook. Just let us
be, we can sort this out ourselves. Please do not legislate anything.

By suggesting the last, I'm not necessarily endorsing it; however, I know
how it feels when you're trying to solve a problem and someone with the
power - but the not knowledge, wants to take the wheel.


Still pondering on DGMBTQ.



WG



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Apr 12 17:26:16 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
Yay! Niblet!



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu Apr 12 14:29:02 2018 206.124.19.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Uranus



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Apr 12 13:38:50 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: Spaaaaaaaace
Question: What is the 7th rock from the sun?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Apr 12 13:01:48 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Tuesday, April 12th 2018 C.E.

We have TEN (10) Birthdays!


Babs
Beldaran
Big_Red
BuffFrog
Cleio
Kelly Schultz as Xander's double
Margot Le Faye
Tidorg
Nicholas Brendon as Xander Harris
uslayme

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Babs, Beldaran, Big_Red, BuffFrog, Cleio, Kelly Schultz as Xander's double, Margot Le Faye, Tidorg, Nicholas Brendon as Xander Harris, uslayme!



Buffy: How was school today? Dawn: The usual. A big square building filled with boredom and despair. Buffy: Just how I remember it. 'Blood Ties'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Apr 12 12:54:36 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay niblet!


Happy CD Thursday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Apr 12 11:57:16 2018 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for niblet!

yay niblet!


Happy CD Thursday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Apr 12 11:39:20 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard, ChristopherMarlowe, Agent Cooper, DaddyCatALSO--That also
concerns me, that humans will become. . .unnecessary :(


wolfguard, ChristopherMarlowe, Ebdim9th, white wings--I saw on CBS This
Morning
yesterday that Zuckerberg has a history of apologizing for lapses in
privacy protection, so when I posted some friends and I were discussing whether
he was naive or just didn't care, I'm now going with the latter ;)


Belated Yay! werewolf123 and Trinity!


Belated Happy Birthday Foot Tapper and Taster's Choice!



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Maverick says:
(Thu Apr 12 06:00:23 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Dreamers in the News. Ann Coulter has an amazing capacity for humor and her sarcasm can be cut with a sharp knife. Lately Trump has also been one of her targets.


Maverick


Incense and Peppermint




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Apr 12 04:20:26 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
One dress rehearsal down..final performance to go.



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Comma says:
(Thu Apr 12 01:49:14 2018 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
Hello everyone! If anyone ever wonders why I don't show up for weeks at a time, just look at the world news.

Bye until I get another break.

Comma



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Apr 12 00:09:49 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
off to dress rehearsals!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Apr 11 23:51:03 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What was the name of Doye's ex-wife?
Answer: Harriet

Trivia notsoShyGirlie: notsoShyGirl!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Apr 11 20:14:34 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

What if AI's don't need us? What if we become just another organic species in
their world? An old trope, but still a legitimate possibility. Life
3.0
examines a number of variations on this theme. More later.

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Apr 11 19:25:35 2018 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
Chris Marlowe/Daddycat - Computers and Automation are going to eliminate almost every job in the very near future. The next few decades probably. I worry alot about what my kids and especially THEIR kids are going to do for a living.

It will start with the most menial jobs and work up. They'll be first. We'll be first confronted with a universally unemployed underclass whose earning capability has been completely replaced by robots. Service workers, manual laborers, customer service jobs, etc. This is actually happening right now, today.

It will work up from there. As technology, especially AI, advances more and more complex jobs will be eliminated as they can be done by robots more and more powerful reasoning capabilities.

And no, there won't be a need for more people to fix the robots. The more advanced technology gets the less human maintenance it requires.

I really don't see an answer for this. What will people do for a living? How can any kind of economy exist like this?



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Apr 11 18:23:00 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Drive-By

White Wings,

Napoleon. More later. *g*


DaddyCatALSO,

While I understand your reasoning, I believe if a person is provided their
needs and wants by another, then that person is in thrall to the provider.



WG



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cmarlowe says:
(Wed Apr 11 16:25:59 2018 107.167.126.99) [Edit/Delete]
daddycatalso.

I would think there would still need to be a big workforce as machines need to be made and programmed.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed Apr 11 15:39:08 2018 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
white wings wolfguard I recall a British fan who tried tog et a copy of Faith's Jackal from S-3 and couldn't.
I think human society, the various individual civilizations which make that up a t this era, need to face the very real possibility that automation might prove to be the end of work for the vast majority of people, with no route back. At which point, the only humane choice, to my way of thinking, is Universal Basic Income. If that combines with manufacturing and resource extraction techniques which lead to a Post-0Scarcity Economy, it will allow people the time to finally *be* human (if they wish - not all can,) instead of the walking, breathing sprocket wheels industrial civilization has made us into.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Apr 11 14:26:05 2018 206.124.19.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Harriet "Harry" Doyle



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Apr 11 13:18:14 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What was the name of Doye's ex-wife?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Apr 11 12:50:54 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Wednesday, April 11th 2018 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7) Birthdays!


~chalkdusty~
DruBaby
Foot Tapper
Joel Grey as Doc
Jo-Jo
The Thinker
Willow 1231

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to ~chalkdusty~, DruBaby, Foot Tapper, Joel Grey, Jo-Jo, The Thinker, Willow 1231!



This isn't a come-on. I'm in a very serious relationship with a landscape architect.
Oliver, 'City of ...''


to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Apr 11 12:44:46 2018 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for trinity!

yay trinity!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

willie's bar - it is trivia night

at a btvs trivia contest, which btvs actor would you want on your team?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Apr 11 12:40:54 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Good morning beta!



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TriviaOldMan says:
(Wed Apr 11 12:39:05 2018 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
Yesterday's Trivia Answer:

Question: what episode from season one included FBI agents? Bonus if you can name them.

Answer: Out of Sight, Out of Mind -Agents Doyle and Manetti

Trivia Special Agent: wolfguard, notsoShyGirl
Trivia Bonus Winner: notsoShyGirl
Trivia Flatfoot: Maverick, Agent Cooper

OMF



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white wings says:
(Wed Apr 11 06:07:26 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard - "China sleeps. Let her sleep. When she wakes, the world will tremble." Or you could go with "That was then, this is now." In terms of economics, we should probably be grateful to the Communists. Sure they've gotten themselves an army and nukes and a lot of money, but they are afraid of their people and keep them on a tight leash. Imagine what would happen if that entire country of hard-working entrepreneurs were unleashed? *g*

The theories you listed about Trump tweets might all be true, possibly even all at the same time. But don't forget that they were and are a way for him to reach people when all but one of the media companies were and are engaged in trying to sink him. They are a way for him to make his will known (or prod things along) when a lot of the people in his own branch of the government not only don't like him, but are actively trying to subvert him. It doesn't mean that he doesn't take great pleasure in using them to slip the traces or to drive friend and foe alike crazy. *g*

*blink* " I think your view on the crowds, Trump supporters and detractors, is more spot on that mine.(sic)" *preen* Now my posting life is complete. *g*

A lot has changed since those post-war years. They had the advantage of an economy that had been fueled by a rapid wartime expansion, from emergence from a deep depression to an engine that was turning out a ship a day. Those were heady days. The facilities were in those days modern. We were on top of the world, and were pretty much rebuilding it, with the sole inconvenience of the Communists.

We may not return to that time, but it doesn't mean that we have to sink into darkness, feeding off ourselves to keep the ever-increasing rolls of unemployed barely alive. I reject that idea. Our industries don't have to all be shuttered. They could be modernized (which would, yes, reduce the numbers of people employed). We may create a different but happy reality, with some of the old jobs and some new ones. Given the population increase, we need to find new jobs. Possibly in service industries with the aging population. But I don't think that a nation can live off service industries. You need to produce enough goods of some kind to create the wealth to pay for everything else.

As for your scenarios,

(1) An EMP or cyberattack might well happen. I just don't think the effects would last. People thought carpet bombs would destroy countries, but after the bombing is over, the populace emerges and tries to rebuild. I don't see retreating to a pastoral time. There are too many city people who don't have that option, and I, for one, like indoor plumbing and refrigerators. But a digital infrastructure that had to be rebuilt would indeed create jobs, and a better infrastructure.

(2) The thing that could affect oil and gas would be lack of refineries. It's been many a long year since we've built new ones, and unless something changes it's not economically possible to build new ones. I think that is a very real possibility. But I imagine we'd find a way to move goods. Coal, wind, sun, water - we used coal and wind and water before we had oil and gas. It would take more people, of course, until someone got smart and changed regulations and the possibility of legal actions to build more refineries.

(3) "Consumers migrate from mass-produced goods to old-fashioned hands-on handicrafts." Bwahahahahaha! Excuse me. *g*

(4) "Governments provide incentives or institute mandates for companies to employ more people in manufacturing." No! A thousand times no! That's the industry-destroying thought process of left wing progressives. You provide a means for companies to thrive and make money, and they will do that, probably requiring more employees. If you mandate jobs, you'll get what Obama got.

As for (5), well, as we learned in Jurassic Park, life finds a way.

I refreshed. You came back. Back to the salt mines. *g*

Yes, Glushkov.

I think it is legal to have kitchen knives in the kitchen, and for chefs to transport them to and from work.

Isn't it odd that so many people die in car accidents and now car/truck terrorist events, and yet no one speaks of banning cars and forcing everyone to ride on public transportation, except in sarcasm? There might be some cities where that might fly, hopefully not one I live near. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Apr 11 05:36:34 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
White Wings,

From the article ...

32) Nikolai Glushkov is the oldest person to have been killed in 2018 at the
age of 68. He died from compression to the neck in New Malden on 13 March.

Glushkov is the Russian expat you're thinking of.


I know of many kitchen knives that have blades longer than 3-inches. Did a
google and found another BBC article, ~Doctors' call on banning kitchen
knives. An excerpt ...

"...A team from West Middlesex University Hospital said violent crime is on
the increase - and kitchen knives are used in as many as half of all
stabbings.

They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and
drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon.
The research is published in the British Medical Journal.
The researchers said there was no reason for long pointed knives to be
publicly available at all....

They consulted 10 top chefs from around the UK, and found such knives have
little practical value in the kitchen....

None of the chefs felt such knives were essential, since the point of a
short blade was just as useful when a sharp end was needed..."


Protect us from ourselves! What's next, shovels? Rakes? Cricket bats? *g*



WG



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white wings says:
(Wed Apr 11 03:30:40 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard - I did refresh! I did! Noted your last post. *g*



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white wings says:
(Wed Apr 11 03:21:59 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Yay werewolf123!

Happy Birthday ButterflyBuffy, Catherine, Chosen One, erinfairie, SpikeAlike, Taster's Choice, and Weeza!

wolfguard - I can't disagree with your theory of decentralizing power, within moderation. Sometimes it can go too far and needs to be brought up short, when you create too many little "warlords" in an organization. Then you go too far the other way. *g*

I was told years ago that Alcoa would periodically reorganize themselves and decentralize, and then they'd reorganize and centralize, and then decentralize, lather, rinse, repeat. It would certainly keep things from getting too entrenched. Does Alcoa still exist? *googles* Apparently so.

Ebdim9th - As long as the bipolar aspects of the weather weren't too extreme for pleasure ... ;-) I had beautiful weather today. It could hardly have been more gorgeous. I could see it, because I was working from home, but I couldn't be in it, because I was in a disaster exercise and teleconference starting at 8am and lasting until afternoon. I got a short walk outside, and then had to attempt to find some kind of focus to do actual work while the sky was blue and the sun was warm and the breezes were cool and gentle outside.

I think FB has lured everyone (or lots of people) away from individual boards just because it does concentrate the environment. It even beat out Live Journal (although I wasn't on that either). I think it just made things too easy. In time, it will not only remove all privacy, but it will be able to concentrate and control thinking. It may create a land of lotus-eaters. That's a lot of power. People have gotten in trouble with online relationships, which have an artificial intensity. What if the relationship is with the environment? Decentralizing as you suggest may be the only cure, but it's pretty difficult. Maybe FB needs a good anti-trust lawsuit. Anti-trust actions have broken up many useful services, for good or for ill. I'm not sure I would wish that on anyone in RL, I'm just musing at the end of a long day.

wolfguard(2) - Interesting about the deaths. The one who died of "neck compression" might be the other Russian ex-pat that displeased Putin. They said he died of "neck compression". If so, that's probably in a different class.

Britain already has very strong laws about knives. That's what's so funny. I refreshed my memories a little while ago. Apparently a folding knife with a blade 3" or less is legal. I guess one could do serious harm even with that, but fixed knives, longer blades, switch blades, folding knives with blades that lock, are all illegal and carrying them has a pretty severe penalty. So when the mayor of London wants to crack down on knives, he's pretty much talking status quo unless they do a lot of stopping and searching.

Christopher Marlowe - Yo. But sleepy. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Apr 11 03:20:46 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
White Wings,

Replying to your post's topics in reverse, more or less. *g*

If I gave the impression of being sympathetic to China's stance towards the
West, mea culpa. I view the CCP, aka the Emperors of China as a greater
threat to the US and the ideas upon which the country was founded.

There are people on the left who believe President Trump's tweets and
tirades are aimed at distracting liberals and Democrats from what
conservatives and Republicans are doing to further their goals, e.g.
appointing conservative judges to the courts. Jeff Greenfield, journalist,
spoke of how (too many) liberals and Democrats are living in a fantasy world
that Trump will be impeached. Each day they sit before MSNBC and CNN to get
their 'feast' of what Mueller is doing today to bring Trump down. Greenfield
notes so long as the Republicans control Congress and 90% of Republicans
support Trump there will be no impeachment. ~~They (liberals) are wasting
their time, time which could be used to inform voters how Trump's policies'
on taxes, education, etc hurt them,

Of course, may others believe the tweets signal the President cannot control
his impulses. A Trump Tweet is Inner Trump.

For myself, I'd have to think of some test for one or both theories to get a
handle on which, if either, is true. If I were to apply Occam's razor, then
I would start with the simplest theory - Trump likes to speak his mind.

Oh, there's another theory. Trump gets frustrated with staff hemming and
hawing - editing and amending what should be said, moving like molasses -
and he punts. Okay guys, this is where I want to go. Catch up.

I imagine many Trump supporters like this theory.


Moving to trade. Here again is that sentence of mine, with one edit ...

"... Creating and maintaining a prosperous global trading economy is
poorly done through tweets, chants, and rallies fueled by fear and
anger. ...


I think your view on the crowds, Trump supporters and detractors, is more
spot on that mine. That said, I believe those supporters who believe Trump -
or anyone - can return US manufacturing employment to what it was in the
early post-war years is dreaming. I can imagine four factors, single or
combined, that might increase manufacturing employment to such heights, but
I don't think they are likely, well two of them aren't.

(1) The digital economy dies. How might that happen? A uber-EMP is detonated
at just the right spot over the continent US or an uber-cyberattack destroys
digital technologies or people decide they can't take being part of the
internet of everything and retreat to a more pastoral time.

(2) Oil and gas become so expensive that it's no longer feasible to ship
goods, especially intermediate goods, around the globe. There were
suggestions of this starting to happen in the summer of 2008, but then the
financial crisis dropped economic activity leading to a drop in oil demand.

(3) Consumers migrate from mass-produced goods to old-fashioned hands-on
handicrafts.

(4) Governments provide incentives or institute mandates for companies to
employ more people in manufacturing.


Bonus 5: So many people cannot find jobs in the rising digital/AI economy
that a second, parallel economy evolves.



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Apr 11 02:52:12 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Hereabouts

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Apr 11 02:08:00 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
anyone hereabouts?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Apr 10 23:37:30 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
thank You TriviaOldMan, I wound up scrambling a bit to get going this morning!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Apr 10 23:28:38 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
home!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Apr 10 23:28:23 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Just read a BBC online article on the number of homicides that have happened
so far this year in London. The article included a short description of ~52
victims. Since the UK has extremely strict gun laws, I tallied up how the
victims were killed. Here's my tally ...

Stabbing/Slashing: 351

Shooting: 7

Other: 9 (The descriptions suggested most of these were from beatings. It's
possible some of the beatings involved some sort of blunt instrument, but
none of the descriptions said so. One killing was done by "compression
to the neck" which could be translated as strangulation. Another killing was
described as ~incident in a hospital.


Comments

One victim was both stabbed and shot.

One stabbing victim was a woman. Later in the day her husband and two "young
sons" were found dead with injuries suggestive of a fall from a height.

If you summed my categories you'll notice it adds to 51, not 52. Not certain
which one I missed. Also, I'm not sure if or how they counted the husband
and two sons.


1 Most of these were described as 'stabbings'. You don't need a
knife to stab someone to death, but likely most were done with some sort of
knife.



WG



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Ebdim9th says:
(Tue Apr 10 23:18:43 2018 98.90.90.118) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue Apr 10 23:20:08 2018
Greetingz you all everybody .. so much to talk about ... WG (also CM, white wings lostinamerica and Maverick and all the rest of y'all as is interested) as you say, decentralization works in many areas and ways. While many people don't want to build their own bulletin boards it just takes an easy to use platform, I forget the name of one of the more popular ones, and a 'webmaster' and admins willing to put time into it, and if they can steal audiences back away from Facebook the new members won't have to do any of the BB work. Facebook is not a unique social platform, much as they'd like to think they are, and if enough people get concerned about their every personal, private conversation, even if it's about a relative suffering the onset of dementia, on a messenger service is being scanned, and not for their benefit, then they might finally turn their attentions away to more alternatives ..... I think also that of Facebook's 20,000 employees, with the kind of power they have over people's personal data to such a large degree, and so many resources at their disposal, some of those would be of the type who collect bot-data for voyeuristic and other shady purposes because they are on a powertrip and have found the ideal outlet for it. If you want to commit fraud, you go to where the transactions are, if you want to nose around in random peoples' lives, you go where the data is.

white wings once again the weather here is my bi-polar spirit-animal .... it was chilly this morning and cloudy, now its warm and sunny, and shall do the same tomorrow ....



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Maverick says:
(Tue Apr 10 22:42:37 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Episode: "The Giles Files" with Agents Scully and Mulder.


Maverick


Jump




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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Apr 10 20:04:22 2018 206.124.19.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Out of Sight, Out of Mind

Agents Doyle and Manetti



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Apr 10 19:34:51 2018 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe I realize it's meaningless but I'd like an opinion anyway. Remember that in at leasts my *main* ficverse, all the actors form the Whedon shows exist, a s do we fans, just in world without the two first shows.
One of my original characters, Varweena, is a demon woman who works (usually disguised as a human) as a Studio Makeup Artist. She's good friends with that universe's Amber Benson, who knows she's a demon. Var has told Amber that many demon types are uniformly hostile, a lot of toehrs aren't that but are alienated, a nd others are either friendly or pacifistic.
I mention that Amber is keeping their secret, is aware demons have no desire to "come out of the lair," and has said she's willing to be an ally if they e ver do.
Seriously, does that sound reasonable, assuming that amber is the same person as ours? Or does it sound like I'm making fun of the real Amber's political and social values?



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Apr 10 18:43:55 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Drive-By

White Wings,

Noted. Will reply later tonight. *g*


Trivia Girl,

Out of Mind, Out of Sight (aka "Invisible Girl")

Bonus: Scully and Mulder, yes? *g*


Maverick,

I'm not surprised about your union story. Just shows some people don't stop
and reassess the current power situation. I have two core political
principles (and one based on default via reduction). The principle I apply
here is "power should be decentralized". When one segment of society
accumulates too much power, then bad things will happen. Consequently I tend
to favor efforts of the less powerful segments to strengthen themselves
and/or weaken the rising power.


Ebdim9th & Lostinamerica,

Today on the Smerconish show they were discussing Facebook. One person who
called-in thinks his 'digital assistant' listens over his cell phone. He
believes this because he recently spoke of wanting ~lemon pie~ and ads soon
appeared on his phone. Smerconish thought it was more likely his past habits
triggered the ads, but it is spooky. *g* Another call-in said he used
Facebook everyday in business for marketing. He said Facebook had more
personal information on its users than did the credit agencies.

I cannot remember where I read or heard this, though it was in the past day
or two. It regards Cambridge Analytics use of Facebook data. As I recall,
"Cambridge" used the data in conjunction with a survey and they discovered
the survey didn't provide anymore actionable intelligence than they could
have gotten from the data alone. WARING: This is what I'm drawing from
memory and that memory was not intentionally saved, i.e. somewhere I heard
it and it was triggered just now by our discussion. It could be flawed
memory. *g*

Another possible flawed memory, I believe PBS Frontline is airing a
documentary tonight called ~Trump's Takeover~.



WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Apr 10 18:26:52 2018 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl

1. All of them.

2. Agent Dale Cooper was the only FBI Agent present in season 1.

You didn't say WHICH show!



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TriviaOldMan says:
(Tue Apr 10 18:10:48 2018 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue Apr 10 18:42:15 2018
Buffy the Vampire Slayer Trivia:

Subject: Law Enforcement
Question: what episode from season one included FBI agents? Bonus if you can name them.

OMF



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Apr 10 16:00:45 2018 206.124.19.175) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue Apr 10 16:01:31 2018
Yoo hoo.... Trivia Girl...



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Apr 10 12:59:26 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Tuesday, April 10th 2018 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7) Birthdays!


ButterflyBuffy
Catherine
Chosen One
erinfairie
SpikeAlike
Taster's Choice
Weeza

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to ButterflyBuffy, Catherine, Chosen One, erinfairie, SpikeAlike, Taster's Choice, Weeza!



As Willow goes, so goes my nation. Oz, 'Homecoming''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Apr 10 12:53:53 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay werewolf123!

deadguy qod

I would be surprised if there were any demons left with that many slayers!


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!


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