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white wings says:
(Sat May 25 02:45:30 2013 70.114.165.144) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Adri

Belated Yay Thoin!

Belated Happy Birthday 4paws and Closet Buffyholic

lostinamerica - You are so right about water. Dealing with the master bath involved ripping out older backing and all the insulation and starting from the studs up, and that was just around the tub and shower. But the shower had had a long term leak at the bottom that was pretty clearly not fixable with grout, and the jetted tub had a leak at the pump (which couldn't be replaced). I didn't need a jetted tub anyway. I just wanted (and got) a deep soaking tub, which is bliss. I've never had one before. The other bathroom should probably have the same treatment, but since I can't see anything obviously wrong, it may just get a sprucing up. With luck, what I can't see won't hurt me.

The wood-look tile I'm planning to use is a ceramic tile. I wish it were porcelain, but I didn't like the similar porcelain tiles that I saw. They were either the wrong color or were going to be a bear to clean. The one I love makes a very nice transition between other surfaces and looks good with the furniture I want to put on it, and it has a very good wear rating. I don't have to go with a wood-look tile, but I haven't seen anything else that I like quite as much. But the die is not cast yet.

There is, incidentally, a vinyl tile that looks absolutely like wood, until you get down and feel it. It is individual glue-down planks, and it is not cheap. But I don't trust that the glue will make a waterproof seal. I'm tired of worrying about water, and I want tile. I want tile baseboards behind the refrigerator. I want the bottoms of cabinets to be able to be lifted out so that one can get underneath with a shop vac without having to pry out baseboard. I probably won't get everything that I want. *g*

With regard to the electric cooktop, remember that what I said only applies to the radiant cooktops. There is one in my mother's old house with a glass top, but it has those solid metal burners sticking out of the glass, so the glass surface never gets hot. It wouldn't have the same problems, and I'm thinking more kindly of it, but it still has the slow heating and cooling problem. What I gathered from reviews and lurking in forums is that you can cook at higher temperatures on radiant cooktops, and some people have done it for years, but there is always a risk of "thermal shock", where you cook at a high temperature and then later when you are all done and it's all cool, it spontaneously cracks. The good news is that it's apparently not a big trick to replace the glass surface if you are careful and handy. I don't understand why they can make ceramic tiles that will withstand reentry from orbit, but not a safe ceramic cooktop. Perhaps it's just cost. Anyway, I'm going induction with one backup electric coil burner. I've dealt with the rice problem by getting a rice cooker. My SIL, who is a sensible Japanese, didn't think anyone should live without one, and gave me a nice Cuisinart one that works quite well.

I have a small candy-making repertoire. Fudge, pralines, fondant, and I used to make divinity. Actually I don't make candy that often since my shadow grew so dark, but I like to have the tools for it. My mother taught me when I was young, and I'm a snob about old-fashioned boiled candies, the way my mother and mother's mother made them, and all the generations before. I'll eat anything, but I make it the hard way. Somehow it seems more virtuous. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Sat May 25 01:38:53 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Martial art technique will only take a person so far. Mindset, street-smarts, and physical conditioning matter more.

A friend who was a cop once told me of responding to a woman in distress. He found her crying, because a teen-age boy had taken her purse as she was leaving her karate dojo.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat May 25 01:12:02 2013 209.159.225.238) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard, DaddyCatAlso learning martial arts might be a good backup skill for Willow, should magic fail her somehow or be blocked.



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wolfguard says:
(Sat May 25 00:10:31 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO,

Why would Uber-Willow need martial arts skills? As I believe Lostinamerica has observed, a competent witch could defeat a slayer from a distance. We saw Uber-Willow zap Xander from a distance, so she could have done the same to Buffy.

I know Joss just wanted a martial arts fight scene so that's what happened. Within the story Uber-Willow's rationale was she ~ always wanted to whup arse.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri May 24 23:30:20 2013 209.159.225.238) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Thank you, however, I've never done a screenplay before. That is a different kettle of fish than writing stories. I might take a page from your writings, should I endeavor to move beyond Day 4. 8g*



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri May 24 20:49:21 2013 66.246.173.34) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri May 24 21:03:43 2013
valMichael Great Buffy Rewatch Great point. Suggested "explications"

1-All such magickal physical enhancements include fighting skills (evidence; vamps seem to acquire them routinely - it's less clear with vengeance demons.)

2- The various spells Willow acquired included not only a strength spell but also a martial skills spell, and she cast both "simm'ltaney'sly." (Evidence; both kinds of spell would be useful to a bad guy, so they'd be available, and she was operating at near-demigoddess levels, so she could easily cast two.)
3- Assuming a-Willow looks exactly like Alyson (a reasonable convention albeit not inevitable) and b-shares a similar physiology (not implausible given assumption a) would make it likely that, like Aly, her exercise routine has always included a lot of kick-boxing, and she ramped up those skills.) Evidence; eh, it accounts for the data *g.
cc wolfguard Christopher Marlowe



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valMichael says:
(Fri May 24 19:55:10 2013 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Birthday: Dinky, Fnerk, HellaC, Marissa, GothicJossMinion, SlayerMom, and Venefica!

YAY Adir!

Trivia Girl
Oops, I missed it. But the answer is the frequency of the wave motion of anything that transfers energy via such wave motion: sound, water waves, light, heat (in some circumstances :), matter waves, et cetera. There is also a relativistic Doppler effect based on Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity.

Buffy Re-Watch "Two To Go"
Isn't it interesting how the strength spell Willow put on herself not only gave her the power to defeat Buffy, but also gave her mad karate skills. :) Neat spell!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri May 24 19:35:39 2013 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Science
Question: What does the Doppler Effect, Affect?
Answer: sound waves

Triivia Scientists: Shan, OldManFan



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wolfguard says:
(Fri May 24 18:19:32 2013 98.192.33.109) [Edit/Delete]
Shan,

I suspect it was the Australian charm that turned them. *g*


Christopher Marlowe,

Just checked the site, ~Write a Screenplay in 3 Weeks (www.raindance.org). I posted more of it last night than I thought. The next steps are to plot your story in the chosen number of scenes, ~40-60. Once that's done, write one scene a day (believe he said to devote no more than 20-25 minutes to doing it - I may be wrong on this). When you've done all the scenes you have completed your rough draft of the script.

Now, by my count 40 to 60 scenes written one a day needs more than three weeks, so I may have missed something. *g* Still, it'll get one a rough draft in a month or two which is much quicker than most people can do without using an outline.

One secret, that he doesn't seem to say explicitly, is it is easier to edit to perfection that to write to perfection. God sends thread to the web begun.

And you, you've already mastered writing thousands of words a day in doing the National November Novel event. You're an old hand.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri May 24 16:40:43 2013 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
KAM Glad it worked out good!



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Shan says:
(Fri May 24 14:53:20 2013 120.146.156.136) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl

I'm currently having to study
Doppler effect for learning about
how to use Ultrasound. As stated
already, waves - including
perception like with sound (how you
hear a siren seeming to get louder
as it approaches you and then fades
as it moves away - the
determination is your position in
relation to the generated wave
fronts) and then there's light,
with red shift (eg: stars moving
away from us) and blue shift (stars
moving towards us) just being two
types of doppler effect.



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Shan says:
(Fri May 24 14:48:09 2013 120.146.156.136) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe

Well, it's been a while since I've
seen a really good movie. Only went
to the cinema 3 times last year and
I didn't go to a movie at all until
this month (now been to three).

Currently raking over old successes
like Fight Club at the moment.

KAM, wolfguard

Considering I was calling from
Australia about some US stocks (so
not at all a regular US taxpayer at
all) and a refund, they were great.
I certainly did learn a lot about
W-8-BEN and 1040 NR forms among
other things.



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Dogmeat says:
(Fri May 24 14:22:43 2013 68.173.242.118) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Birthday Sarah Hagan who played Amanda



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OldManFan says:
(Fri May 24 14:12:30 2013 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl - waves... I'm not being friendly, that's the answer... waves (now I'm being friendly).

OMF



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri May 24 14:06:01 2013 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Science
Question: What does the Doppler Effect, Affect?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri May 24 13:37:11 2013 66.246.173.34) [Edit/Delete]
Anyone Know? I saw a commercial for Honda Odyssey last night a family of I beleive 4 were in a showroom talking to a salesman about the current model- I think Iyari Limon might be playing the wife.



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KAM says:
(Fri May 24 13:21:20 2013 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Good Morning Everyone,

YAY ADRI

Beldin
: AND...he's just cool. I played him (briefly) in the soon to be released Marvel online game...and he was cool there too.

Christopher Marlowe: I had to talk to my mobile service provider's customer service last night, and it was delightful. They did everything right, but of course, if their website was functioning properly, there would have been no need to talk to anyone.

Maverick: I'm familiar with the Cloward and Piven Strategy. Isn't that the likely result of any governmental system that allows people to vote themselves benefits that they don't pay for?
All based on the premise that you can indefinitely spend other people's money.

KAM



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri May 24 13:09:15 2013 208.107.232.155) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Friday, May 24th 2013 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7) Birthdays!




Dinky
Fnerk
HellaC
Marissa
GothicJossMinion aka Satine the Shadowdancer
SlayerMom
Venefica



Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
Dinky, Fnerk, HellaC, Marissa, GothicJossMinion, SlayerMom, Venefica!



Buckle up, kids! Daddy's puttin' the hammer down.Spike, 'Spiral'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri May 24 13:03:39 2013 208.107.232.155) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Adri!!!

TJIF!



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lostinamerica says:
(Fri May 24 12:49:02 2013 69.247.134.78) [Edit/Delete]
Comma--I would have to say it was an oversight on the part of the ad company--if you don't look closely one city's skyline looks just like any other cities' skyline ;)


Yay! Adri!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri May 24 11:50:44 2013 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for adri!

yay adri!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday Day!



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Comma says:
(Fri May 24 09:49:49 2013 97.95.128.126) [Edit/Delete]
Beldin, lostinamerica, and all others: The Weiner campaign even used it for his Homepage on his election website. There is an unconfirmed report that a Democratic Congressman, who repents the Pittsburg Congressional District, informed the Weiner campaign about the little mistake.

Now I understand that a lot of films and TV shows, that are supposed to take place in NYC, film in other cities because of the cost to film in NYC. Do all think that it is cheaper to use a picture of the Pittsburgh skyline instead of the NYC skyline?;)

Comma



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ShadowQuest says:
(Fri May 24 06:29:13 2013 65.73.73.196) [Edit/Delete]
Late night, high-speed zoom through

YAY THOIN! (Where the heck did that errant G come from??? Sheesh. Good thing I caught it...)

And now for your amusement, a little anecdote from Not Always Romantic:

(My husband and I are both big fans of the collective works of Joss Whedon. On the way to work, I'm watching out the window as my husband is driving. We often see geese on the grassy area to the side of the road, but this morning I see something new.)

Me: Oh, my god, goslings! They're so cute; I want to juggle them!

Husband: *snorts* I don't think they'd appreciate that.

(We ride for a little while in silence, and then I start singing a song Ive got stuck in my head.)

Me: ...shiny new Australia!

Husband: Ha! You went from goslings, to Firefly, and worked your way over to Dr. Horrible didn't you?

Me: Yup.

Husband: Two bodies...

Me: ...one mind.

Zoom, zoom



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri May 24 04:18:10 2013 208.107.232.155) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri May 24 04:22:42 2013
wolfguard Oh gosh, that might take more effort to recall. *g*

If I would hazard a guess, I would say that more people were angry at the start. I say that because calls from people that got angrier after I started talking with them were more memorable.

ETA

wolfguard - That screenplay format sounds very doable so far. I actually had a story idea come to mind in the past week, inspired by my trip to Montana.



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Beldin says:
(Fri May 24 04:15:18 2013 64.92.34.103) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri May 24 04:16:35 2013
wolfguard - "Make up everything." Good one.

Yay Thoin!


Happy Birthday 4paws!
Happy Birthday Closet Buffyholic!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri May 24 03:58:33 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Thoin!


Happy Birthday 4paws!


Happy Birthday Closet Buffyholic!






Good Night to All

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri May 24 03:49:03 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Came across a website on how to write a screenplay in three weeks. That's pretty fast for producing good work. Still, many of us would be happy to write a rough draft in three weeks. Off memory, here are the first few steps (I'll post the link once I find it again).

Day 1: Write the title

(You can always change it later)


Day 2: Write the theme.

(There are writers and writing instructors who believe it's very important to know your theme in the beginning. I also know writers and instructors who believe stating a theme in the beginning is the kiss of death.

For those of the latter mind ...

Day 2: In one sentence, write what draws you to want to write this story.)



Day 3: In one sentence describe the story. For instance, 'Cop has to find secret witness before person is executed for crime not committed.' The website described this sentence as what you were read in a television guide. It also said it's how a 'word of mouth' description my sound.


Day 4: Write the treatment, i.e. a few page summary or outline of the story. The website suggested creating the following format:

1. Divide each of three pages in equal halves.

2. On the top half of the first page write "BEGINNING". On that half answer this about your story -

Who, What, Where, When, Why, How


3. On the bottom half of the third page write, "ENDING".

Write the ending.

(Many writers believe it's much easier to plot a story if you know how it's going to end. This doesn't mean it you are tied to this ending. You can erase or delete it later.)


3. There are now four halves left - the bottom of page one, the two halves of page two, and the top of page three. This is the MIDDLE of the story. The website had the following suggestions:

- Plot the story so through the middle there are around four to six WTF!? momements. These are the irresistable forces and unmovable objects which would stop any right minded person from continuing onward. Your character is not a right-minded person.

- Writers differ on how many scenes should be in a screenplay. The website suggested watching a few of your favorite movies and count the scenes. The average number you arrive at probably matches your personal 'rhythm'.


Above is around 2/3rds of the directions. I'll post the rest tomorrow, hopefully with the link to the site.


WG



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lostinamerica says:
(Fri May 24 02:48:34 2013 69.247.134.78) [Edit/Delete]
Comma--Really? Too funny :)


white wings--Water is so destructive! Since we always buy older homes I don't want to know what it looks like behind the wall--as long as the mold is encapsulated I figure we're OK ;)

Why not use porcelain tile instead of, what, vinyl tile that looks like wood? Are you talking about the floors? I like granite counter tops, and now that solid-surface options are just as expensive I think we'll go to granite a few years down the road when we have to replace the kitchen laminate counter tops. I also know several places that sell granite remnants, which I hope we can use, it's so much cheaper :)

All I know about the electric cooktop is that it took forever to learn how to cook rice--the burner gets so hot and it takes awhile to cool down if you want to change the temperature. I didn't realize that you can't cook above boiling water temperatures, but I don't can or make candy--what kind of candy do you make?


Happy Birthday 4paws!


Yay! Thoin!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri May 24 02:48:29 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Of the customers that call, how many are angry before they called? How many become angry during the call?

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri May 24 02:40:43 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri May 24 02:41:13 2013
valMichael,

Why should you never trust an atom?


wait for it

((They make up everything.))

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri May 24 02:15:36 2013 208.107.232.155) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard It depends on the source of their anger. If they aren't liking what I'm telling them, I usually see if my supervisor could talk to them. They might tell the same thing I did, but it comes from someone with higher authority. There was only one time that it wound up getting bumped up to the Vice President's level, although I'm not certain of the final outcome.



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Thoin says:
(Fri May 24 01:48:26 2013 98.193.104.63) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Birthday, 4Paws!!!

Thoin tosses a giant, economy-sized box of Liv-a-Snaps at her four-legged friend, hoping the big, shiny bow on top doesn't get caught in her hair...



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Thoin says:
(Fri May 24 01:40:48 2013 98.193.104.63) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri May 24 01:42:08 2013
There is a cloud of dust near the Lurkage and the Friendly Bartender looks slightly alarmed. A besooted figure shambles out and weaves an unsteady path over to the bar. Grabbing a few bar napkins, it wipes it's messy visage, revealing Thoin. She digs in a pocket and comes up with enough loose change for a cold gingerale-and-lime, sending The Friendly Bartender into still greater shock.

Grabbing the drink and another handful of bar napkins, she shuffles over to the Comfy Famlet Couch to scroll. A Little Bird (who shall remain named ShadowQuest) has told her that it is her Yay!Day. She's been uber-busy until now, but managed to shamble in anyway...


Christopher Marlowe, Kam, valMichael, thank you!

I love Yay!Days. It even makes this hideous headache I have a tad more manageable.



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Beldin says:
(Fri May 24 01:26:41 2013 64.92.34.103) [Edit/Delete]
Comma - That's funny.



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Maverick says:
(Fri May 24 01:15:21 2013 98.209.65.200) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri May 24 01:18:02 2013
Is My Show Cancelled?


KAM: Cloward and Piven and Obama Look up Cloward and Piven on Wikipedia. This appears to be his game plan (if we let him.) BTW, both Mr. Root AND Glenn Beck were recently audited by the IRS.


Maverick


Love Theme from Star Trek TMP




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Comma says:
(Fri May 24 01:02:15 2013 97.95.128.126) [Edit/Delete]
Let me see, you were disgraced while you were in congress and you are trying to make a come back by running for the mayor of New York City. So you start your public campaign with the skyline of the city above your campaign verbiage. Off to a great start for Anthony Weiner's campaign to be the next mayor of NYC, except his campaign used the skyline of Pittsburgh, not NYC!

I think that some one, at the ad agency, may be unemployed today.

Comma



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wolfguard says:
(Fri May 24 00:37:21 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Any particular method work best in calming the angry ones?

WG



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Beldin says:
(Fri May 24 00:32:45 2013 64.92.34.103) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri May 24 00:36:13 2013
Here now.

Christopher Marlowe - How was the trip?

KAM - The Black Panther was one of the better heroes (created by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, natch). Cool suit, super strong and fast, king of his own kingdom, and friend enough that he twice put on Daredevil's costume when DD was about to be publicly outed as Matt Murdock. The two arranged it so they both appeared in public at the same place and same time. T'Challa even had to fight a villain as DD. The reader wasn't told that it was T'Challa under the mask so when Matt showed up in the crowd it was like, "woah!"

DaddyCatALSO - Do you mean single character comic books or newspaper comic strips? 'Cause I remember when Red Wolf debuted and he had his own book from the beginning. I really liked him. My neighbor and I habitually wandered all around the woods around our house and I cut a pole a little over five-and-a-half feet long and called a coup stick to match Red Wolf's.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri May 24 00:28:05 2013 208.107.232.155) [Edit/Delete]
Shan[/b. What movies have caught your eyes these days? I've been following the Cannes Film Festival, to see what I need to be on the lookout for to see in the theaters or to rent.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu May 23 23:42:58 2013 208.107.232.155) [Edit/Delete]
KAM, wolfguard I've been on both sides of the Customer Service issue. It's been awhile since I was ticked off at Customer Service. I've been on the recieving end of some highly negative calls, but I keep in mind to never take it personally,



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu May 23 22:50:10 2013 209.159.225.238) [Edit/Delete]
On my way home....



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu May 23 19:24:40 2013 205.141.66.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Sports
Question: Who is the Stanley Cup named for?
Answer: Frederick Arthur Stanley

Trivia Players: OldManFan, valMichael

Trivia Pucks: Maverick!



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Maverick says:
(Thu May 23 19:08:02 2013 98.209.65.200) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Paul Stanley of Kiss who not only wears one but also wears lacy nylon stockings.


Maverick


Hockey Night In Canada




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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 23 18:09:28 2013 98.192.33.109) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO,

Lincoln once asked, ~ If you call a dog's tail a leg, then how many legs does a dog have? ~

((Lincoln's answer: Four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg. *g*))



Shan,

The few times I've dealt with the IRS they have always been friendly and helpful. Go figure. *g* OTOH, I've rarely had a problem with anyone serving customers. I smile and say, 'sir' or 'ma'am'. I don't act impatience. And often, because someone else does act angry I come across as a ray of sunshine. *g*


WG



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KAM says:
(Thu May 23 16:04:42 2013 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Hello Again,

Christopher Marlowe: I admit--I'm probably not on Customer Service without being angry, but I always do my best to be reasonable.

KAM
Ty King Fan



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu May 23 16:00:30 2013 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
KAM I don't envy customer service having to deal with angry customers, reasonable or unreasonable.



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KAM says:
(Thu May 23 15:04:39 2013 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Hello again,

Shan: I always try to state my appreciation for customer service people, because they are the front-line in dealing with problems that really aren't of their making.

KAM
Ty King Fan



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OldManFan says:
(Thu May 23 14:34:58 2013 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO - "Although someone already under oath reagrding a matter where their own conduct isn't an issue can presumably still refuse to self-incriminate" - True, but she testified to her innocence. You cannot testify to your innocence and then refuse to answer questions on cross-examination.

OMF



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Shan says:
(Thu May 23 14:31:33 2013 120.146.156.136) [Edit/Delete]
For what it's worth (not much in
relation to this issue), all the IRS
employees I've dealt with over the
phone have been nothing short of
fantastic.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu May 23 14:26:32 2013 66.246.173.34) [Edit/Delete]
KAM OldManFan valMichael Well, I see the argument in this case; the actions of the RIS office involved are what's in question and she's testifying as a worker at that office so yes, she's stretechign the right.

Although someone already under oath reagrding a matter where their own conduct isn't an issue can presumably still refuse to self-incriminate



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OldManFan says:
(Thu May 23 14:09:40 2013 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl - Jean Paul Stanley, the first hockey goalie to wear one. Or possibly, Frederick Arthur Stanley, 16th Earl of Derby (one-time Governor-General of Canada).

OMF



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valMiichael says:
(Thu May 23 14:07:38 2013 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl Lord Stanley of Preston, Governor-General of Canada in 1890s. (it's said his cup was phenomenal! ;-)



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu May 23 14:03:31 2013 205.141.67.16) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Sports
Question: Who is the Stanley Cup named for?



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KAM says:
(Thu May 23 13:51:22 2013 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Hello Again,

OldManFan: Yes, Lerner wants it both ways. To give testimony proclaiming her innocence, and then not answering questions.

Yes, they have to be dismissed from their post if they refuse to be answerable to (the Representatives of) the People. While this may seem harsh, the other alternative is that government officials are NOT answerable to the people--which is totally unacceptable.

I REALLY hope that people pay attention to things like this, because this is a very core question in regards to living in a free society. I don't think it is good to shrug and listen to the "nothing to see here" attempt to dismiss.

KAM



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OldManFan says:
(Thu May 23 13:38:40 2013 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
KAM - I agree completely. However, Lois Lerner made one mistake yesterday and, by doing so, can be compelled to testify. She testified that she did nothing wrong, broke no laws or IRS regulations... and then she invoked her 5th amendment rights. The problem is, you can't invoke your 5th amendment rights once you've begun to testify. Had she made those statements on the courthouse steps or on her blog, no problem. But she did so under oath, in front of the committee.

That being said. Any federal employee invoking their 5th amendment rights during an official investigation should be dismissed.

OMF



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valMichael says:
(Thu May 23 13:15:19 2013 98.195.92.226) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu May 23 13:17:07 2013
Happy Birthday: 4paws, Adorable Hellspawn, Closet Buffyholic, Jeanie the Tortoise Fly, Mar, minimike, and willowkitten!

YAY Thoin!

ChristopherMarlowe
Sorry about missing the birthdays for yesterday. Things got a bit weird. :) ('nuff said)
You might want to post yesterday's birthdays as belated birthdays today.



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KAM says:
(Thu May 23 13:03:05 2013 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Good Morning Everyone,

YAY THOIN

Anyone Interested in what is going on with our (USA) Government and how that might impact your liberty.
Yesterday, IRS Employee Lois Lerner exercised her 5th Amendment rights opting not to answer Congress's questions regarding her actions in her government position.
Upon hearing this, I first didn't think much about it, because--well, people can do that.
But then I started thinking about what this really means. Essentially, it means that she is claiming the power to refuse oversight WITHIN the government.
Briefly--our government is supposed to have a variety of checks and balances--with the goal of preventing improper exercise of power with, ultimately--to protect the People.
Lerner's action directly prevents this from occurring, and thus creates an issue. The Congress--in this case the House of Representatives, the most direct Representative of the People in government are being prevented from getting answers about the actions of someone who has been accused of improperly wielding government power against the People (in this case certain groups of people).

That is not acceptable. Part of the Government cannot claim immunity from its REQUIREMENT to answer to (the Representatives of) the People. As such, while I do not believe someone can be forced to testify against themselves in any case, it does NOT mean that the People should tolerate ANY member of the government claiming to be immune to the People's (Representatives) scrutiny. If this IS tolerated, then it says that Government is NOT accountable to the People, which is of course entirely contrary to our Constitution and form of government.

So, in my view, Lerner (or anyone else seeking to avoid legitimate oversight via the People's Representatives) MUST resign their position within government. The alternative, again is that Government officials are not answerable to the People--who in this case are the alleged victims of the action in question by the person in question.

To summarize and put this more simply. The Constitution is not there to protect government from its citizens, but to protect its citizens from Government, and allowing this to stand is putting the power in the hands of government to do whatever it wants and not be answerable to legitimate oversight.

This same sort of thing has occurred with Attorney General Holder, in his refusal to provide certain information regarding the Fast and Furious Program. He is currently under a charge of contempt of Congress--the end result of his inaction (not a 5th Amendment claim)

I find this quite alarming and a growing trend--one that is very dangerous to liberty and the concept of a free society with government answerable to the People.

KAM



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu May 23 12:26:11 2013 66.246.173.34) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard In Maverick's defense, he was totally upfront baout excluding the Scooby section of "Anne" from his discussion. On the third hand, that *was* part of the ep. so the decision to have a caveat at all is questionable.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu May 23 12:11:07 2013 208.107.232.155) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Thursday, May 23rd 2013 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7) Birthdays!




4paws
Adorable Hellspawn
Closet Buffyholic
Jeanie the Tortoise Fly
Mar
minimike
willowkitten



Happy Birthday from the Bronze
to
4paws, Adorable Hellspawn, Closet Buffyholic, Jeanie the Tortoise Fly, Mar, minimike, willowkitten!



Don't let the space bugs bite!Kaylee, 'Objects In Space'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu May 23 12:04:43 2013 208.107.232.155) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Thoin!!!

Happy CD Thursday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu May 23 11:45:12 2013 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for thoin!

yay thoin!



Happy CD Thursday!



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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 23 03:34:11 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu May 23 03:34:30 2013
Yay Fenric!




Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question


If there were a spinoff from Angel, what would it have been?

I'm not sure what, but imagine the characters would include Spike, Illyria, Lorne and possibly Faith. Given that death is not final in the buffyverse, then perhaps Wesley?

OTOH, the producers and writers would probably like to add some new characters to the mix.


Good Night to All

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 23 03:14:53 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
White Wings,

4 in the morning? Probably a better time for brooding. *g*


Christopher Marlowe,

I meant to note that in Life Serial the Nerds were used by the writers to push Buffy towards work at DoubleMeat Palace. So many fans complained that Buffy could do better than working at a fast-food place. I believe Joss and Marti wanted Buffy to be in a dark place and they probably saw fast food as a dark place. OTOH, Buffy was a smart cookie and fast-food would not have been her first choice. The writers needed to move her quickly past the better job choices and they used the Nerds as a way to explain why Buffy wasn't able to work those sort of jobs.

If the Nerds hadn't been messing with Buffy, then she'd have been working construction or doing a sitcom with Anya, "The Crazy Girls" about life in retail magick. *g*


WG



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white wings says:
(Thu May 23 02:51:57 2013 70.114.165.144) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Fenric!

wolfguard - I sometimes record the 4am showing of Buffy or Angel. They feel more alive that way.

lostinamerica - I had almost the same thing happen with the refrigerator! First it flooded all over the laminate in the kitchen and entryway, under the cabinets, and dampened the hardwood in the living room behind the refrigerator. The day it happened, I was planning to schedule the plumber to replace the frozen valve to the water line so that I could replace the refrigerator. That happened on an emergency basis, and I replaced the refrigerator. I ran fans over the floors and pried up some baseboard and reducers and got a shop vac to suck up stuff . The hardwood dried up pretty well, but I never seemed to run out of water under the laminate. I had some other plumbers out, and they checked for leaks in addition to a few other odds and ends, and found nothing. So I kept running the shop vacs. Finally I pulled the new refrigerator all the way out, and found that the new valve was leaking, but it was such a thin film of water that it was almost invisible. It turned out a gasket was missing. Now I'm dry, but water was under the vapor barrier, so it is probably mildewing quietly. The oak in the living room was an old-timey installation, solid wood glued directly to the foundation, so now that it's dry, it should be OK.

However, I had already spent my renovation budget replacing carpet in the bedrooms with tile downstairs (where a water heater and AC coils live) and hardwood upstairs, and replacing the unusable master tub and shower. I knew about the master bath going in, although it got done more expensively and more satisfactorily than I'd planned. So the rest of my funds had to be spent renovating my old town house, which had had little improvement inside in the 34 years I'd lived there. At least I'd had it resided a few years before. I was persuaded into a high-end (appearing) renovation that involved remediating aluminum wiring, new doors, new cabinets, scraping popcorn, granite counters everywhere, painting, a travertine master shower, and a new roof. Also new glass in a lot of the windows. But I got really lucky. The location was really good, and there was low inventory in that price range, and a couple who had lost out in some bidding wars made me an offer I couldn't refuse, well over asking price.

Now I'm planning to put tile where the laminate was. It's a wood look tile that will make a nice transition between the new hardwood on the stairs and the old hardwood in the living room. And it will be waterproof. The contractor showed me the granite in his own house, and I kept stroking it lovingly, so I think I'll have the same thing.

I used to have gas, but I grew up with electric ranges, so I thought I'd tolerate the ceramic radiant cooktop easily. Wrong. It doesn't heat up that fast, and the first thing I did was boil over a pot of stock, so I learned about cleaning it. The downdraft runs, but it doesn't seem to affect steam rising to the ceiling. And after a little studying, it turns out that ceramic tops don't do well if you cook above boiling water temperatures, as you would with canning and candy. I don't can, but I make candy from time to time. Also hot sugar apparently pits the glass, if that's all the damage that it does. I'm going with induction. I've been trying a single portable induction burner with some new pots, and a metal disc to heat old pots, and I really like it. It heats quickly and cools quickly. I've ordered a single burner with an electric coil for candy making.

Now I just need to get the contractor, who is desperately trying to finish work for a 93 year old lady whose husband was just taken to the hospital. She needs her renovations sooner than I will, and it gives me more time to brood. And work on curtains. I don't actually like hemming curtains.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 23 02:37:18 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

It's also hard to write dialogue for one. Also, Jonathan's scruples provided a way for Buffy to defeat Warren in Seeing Red. No doubt the writers could have devised other ways, but they didn't have to (unless the forsaw the need in the beginning and added Jonathan for that sole reason? *g*).


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu May 23 02:19:19 2013 208.107.232.155) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard So Andrew and Jonathan were basically ways to illuminate Warren himself. Sorta like the scabby minions of Glory, a character for the big bad to react to.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 23 02:03:37 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

It was May 2003. I'm trusting Sarah's Carl on the day of the month. *g*

Your topic:

I wonder if the story arc for season six would have worked if it was just Warren, without either Jonathan or Andrew.

Did one even need Warren?

In all the other seasons if the big bad succeeded, then it would have been the end of life for many or the end of the world for all. If the Nerd Troika had succeeded, then there would have been a series of heists and Warren might have hurt some people to prove he could. And that's it.

In all the other seasons, the characters develop in the shadow of the big bad's evil doings. One or all had to make major personal decisions forced by the big bad's being.

How true is this for sixth season? What did each of the scoobies' desire?

In the beginning, all of the scoobies badly missed Buffy and four plotted to resurrect her. Once they did, they were peachy keen till she revealed she'd been in heaven. Both Dawn and Spike wanted Buffy's attention and even devotion. Anya wanted to get moving on with the life of a married couple, Xander not so much with that idea. Willow was happy being the Queen Bee of Magick until it cost her Tara, after she went hogwart-wild till she almost killed Dawn and from then it was how to be without magick.

Buffy's first desire was to return to heaven, but her need to protect Dawn prevented it. Afterwards Buffy had suffer the senses while also looking for work to support Dawn and herself. By Once More With Feeling she's needing to 'live again' and she sees a way of doing that through a sexual affair with Spike. Riley's return in As You Were gives her a moral lift and some perspective leading to her breaking up with Spike.

So, where are the places the characters are trying to go and how does the Nerd Troika help those stories?

Here's what the Nerds did in season six:

1. Life Serial: Assuming the Slayer could pose an obstacle, they experiment with ways of keeping her off balance.

2. Smashed: They steal a jewel they need for the invisible ray gun (IRG).

3. Gone: Using the IRG they accidentally shoot Buffy. Warren knows an invisible Buffy will soon be no Buffy and tries to keep that to himself. From a charcter development POV, what does being invisible say about Buffy's then feelings and thoughts?

4. Dead Things: They enslave Katrina (?) and then Warren hits and kills her. They try to frame Buffy for the death. What does Buffy's reaction to thinking she had killed Katrina say about Buffy's state of mind?

5. Normal Again: When Buffy comes to close to finding them, they release the demon that poisons her causing her to hallucinate about a better world (?). What does Buffy's hallucinations say about her state of mind?

6. Entropy: The Nerds' surveilliance system leads to both Spike and Anya's tryst and Buffy and Spike's affair being discovered. This leads to Xander stalking away from Buffy and later to Spike's visit and assault on Buffy in Seeing Red.1

7. Seeing Red: Buffy's thwarting of Warren's plan and power leads to him seeking revenge which leads to Tara's death which leads to Uber-Willow which leads to Warren's death which leads to Buffy vs. Uber Willow ...


So ... I started this thinking the Nerds basically provided some action scenes and humor, and come away realizing each of their episodes provided a window into Buffy's soul. Warren drove, but the writers needed the other two characters for Warren to play off of. Andrew and Jonathan helped create Warren's character for the viewers.

1 Why? 'Cause Dawn goes to see Spike and tells him if he wanted to hurt Buffy, then he succeeded. Spike probably thought Buffy would only feel hurt if she still loved him. So goes to see her.



WG



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ChirstopherMarlowe says:
(Thu May 23 00:52:25 2013 208.107.232.155) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard 10 years? Was it really that long ago? Wow. My life after getting hooked on Buffy was never the same!



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wolfguard says:
(Thu May 23 00:32:09 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Monday was the 10th anniversary of Chosen. Several old-timers, such as White Wings, visited. Last night was quiet. I hope to post later tonight on your topic from a few days ago.

WG



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu May 23 00:13:29 2013 69.247.134.78) [Edit/Delete]
white wings--Yes, we still have boxes too, *sigh*. I guess I should unpack the the china and crystal to see if it's still in one piece, though I packed it and therefore have no one to blame but myself if it's all in little tiny bits at the bottom of the boxes ;)

We're a long ways away from curtains, I'm jealous! Sorry about your refrigerator, we had that happen, a leaky water pipe behind the refrigerator that, of course, eventually leaked out onto the wood floor. Actually, it happened twice, because it leaked a second time since it wasn't repaired correctly, but at least we didn't have to pay to have the area refloored the second time since it wasn't our fault ;)

Yes, yes, redo the kitchen, you'll love it! I spend a lot of time in the kitchen and enjoy having one that functions well. Though there's an electric cooktop and I much prefer gas, but I doubt we'll be changing that out anytime soon.

I guess it would be a more enjoyable experience if I was a "typical" woman and enjoyed shopping, but I don't. I'm a hunter, not a gatherer ;)



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed May 22 23:56:04 2013 208.107.232.155) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Did I miss anything exciting while I was away?



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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 22 23:17:33 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick,

In each of your three candidate episodes, you've added or removed parts to your taste. You have changed the reality to meet your needs and expect the rest of us to agree with you.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed May 22 23:12:13 2013 208.107.232.155) [Edit/Delete]
Mucho Thanks to TriviaOldMan and Birthday Gnome for covering while I was gone. Things will be back to abnormal tomorrow. *g*



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Maverick says:
(Wed May 22 23:08:45 2013 98.209.65.200) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: Reading comprehension. "Question: Of the 144 episodes of BtVS, how many had no vampires in them?" How many? Requires a number. What you should be doing rather than to try to belittle me is to pull up the Buffyworld episodes our Inquisitor said contained no vampires and examine them. I think he was probably wrong (ignored a vampire drive-by or two) and that my 3 answer is probably even better.


Maverick


Reflections of My Life




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed May 22 23:04:48 2013 208.107.232.155) [Edit/Delete]
HOme!!!!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 22 22:57:36 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick,

As to the math of the matter. You pointed to three episodes in which you said there were no vampires and you were wrong in each case. You were wrong three out three times. Step away from the plate.

I estimated ~ 22 episodes did not have vampires. TriviaOldPerson's source said eight (?). If true, and I have not reason to doubt it, then I got 8 out 22 right and 14 wrong - still a better batting average than ZERO. :)

Your speculation on Buffy vs. Dracula is wrong.

Below are the excerpts of the two scenes where Buffy slayed vampires in Buffy vs. Dracula. Both are from the shooting script, courtesy of Buffyworld.com.



TEASER

INT. BUFFY'S BEDROOM - NIGHT (NIGHT ONE)

Buffy and Riley lie in bed together. Riley is sleeping soundly but Buffy is wide-eyed and restless. She looks over to Riley Makes a decision. She climbs quietly out of bed, leaving Riley undisturbed.

EXT. GRAVEYARD - NIGHT (NIGHT ONE)

CLOSE ON
A MAN'S LEGS as he RUNS as fast as he possibly can

CLOSE ON

Another set of legs, female this time, chasing after the man.

WIDEN TO SHOW
That this is Buffy, who pursues the fleeing VAMPIRE at an astounding pace. The intensity of her pursuit is wild, almost animal Like a leopard springing after it's prey
WHOMP! Buffy bounds onto a headstone, pushes off it and LEAPS onto the vampire, bringing him violently to the ground. Buffy and the vampire struggle in the mud for a few beats before she STRADDLES HIM and brings her stake down hard, dusting him.

CLOSE ON BUFFY
As she rises from the kill, breathing hard - eyes shining deadly

...

ACT 1
EXT. GRAVEYARD - NIGHT (NIGHT THREE)

CLOSE ON BUFFY
Who looks like she's enjoying her duty quite a bit. She's rolling on the ground again with another vampire. This one is a whole lot bigger than her - but, again, Buffy fights with primal, animal intensity.

ANGLE
In the shadows, a man is watching her. Dark, piercing eyes stare intently

ANGLE BUFFY
As Buffy gets the upper hand with the huge vamp. We hear her kill it in an (off camera) dust. Buffy sits up, breathing hard again



WG



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Maverick says:
(Wed May 22 22:44:06 2013 98.209.65.200) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: Reading comprehension they call it. " I know the "Anne" episode did not have any vampires but they may have monitored what the Scoobies were still doing." So I allowed for vampires in the Scooby part of the episode and merely said that in the "Anne" part of the "Anne" episode, I didn't think there were any vampires. BTW, when I congratulated you for being closer to the correct answer I was, needless to say, being sarcastic. Well, in "Buffy vs Dracula", I think Spike may have been in that episdode, so I can accept that I may have been wrong. The vampire sisters were also part of the illusion. Can you accept that 2 or 3 is closer to 8 than 22? Let's see, 8 - 3 = 5 and 22 - 8 = (square root of 9, carry the three) 14 . 5 goes into 14 = 2.8, so my answer (although wrong) was 2.8 times better than yours (which was very wrong.) I'll round that off to 3. Give me a break!


Maverick


Incense and Peppermint




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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 22 21:55:05 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Sarah's Carl,

I'm looking forward to The Crazy Ones. *g*


Maverick,

You accept that you are also wrong about there're not being a vampire in Buffy vs. Dracula?


WG



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Sarah's Carl says:
(Wed May 22 21:26:41 2013 68.45.216.85) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard, Beldin, valMichael, ChristopherMarlowe

A bit longer clip from the pilot of
The Crazy Ones
Sarah sings again :) & Kelly Clarkson too.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 22 21:12:30 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick,

Since you wrote, "...I know the "Anne" episode did not have any vampires...", thought I'd note it as another instance where what you knew not being what was so.

WG



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Maverick says:
(Wed May 22 20:42:11 2013 98.209.65.200) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: You are probably right. I didn't really look. The questions is like asking How many drawings in the Michigan Lottery, since it started, did not include a number with a 4 in it? I see the Trivia Inquisitor provided an answer list but doubt it's correct (without looking at every frame to see if some vampire perhaps wandered in front of the camera.) And, when in doubt I always answer "Dead Man's Party" as I consider it the worst Buffy episode. But I'm happy for you that your answer was so much closer to being right.


DaddyCatALSO: Yes, I remember that you once before said that Joss claimed the comics were canon. It's not that I don't believe you; I just do not believe Joss was paying attention when he answered that. I think he answered that way to NOT stop the source of cash flow that is coming from those comics. I believe if I personally asked him the question that he would relent.


Maverick


I Cannot Believe My Eyes




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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 22 20:02:24 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed May 22 20:02:55 2013
Maverick,

No vampire in Dead Mans Party?

From act 1 of the shooting script of Dead Mans Party, courtesy of Buffyworld.com


BUFFY
Didn't anyone tell you about playing
with pointy sticks? It's all fun and
games until someone loses an eye.

A stunned Xander takes in what just happened. And WHO it just happened with.


XANDER
You... shouldn't sneak up on people
like that.

Another moment. Xander loses the cool, shakes his head.


XANDER
Jeez, Buff-

He opens his arms and they move to HUG EACH OTHER. It's about to be a nice moment, but suddenly A PISSED OFF VAMPIRE TACKLES XANDER.

Xander wrestles with the vamp, almost has the upper hand... Then BUFFY BLINDSIDES THE VAMP and knocks him off Xander.

While the vamp tries to recover, BUFFY DRAWS A STAKE. Xander leaps to his feet - also with STAKE DRAWN.

The VAMP GROWLS, starts to get up. BOTH Xander and Buffy move to take him. They glance at each other.


BUFFY
Oh. Go ahead.


XANDER
No, you go.


BUFFY
No, it's-



WG



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TrivialOldMan says:
(Wed May 22 20:01:09 2013 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Today's Trivia results

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Question: Of the 144 episodes of BtVS, how many had no vampires in them?
Answer: eight... Witch, The Pack, I, Robot... You Jane, The Puppet Show, Inca Mummy Girl, Living Condition, Fear Itself and Beer Bad.

If you want to argue the answers, contact Imdb. You will notice they are mostly from seasons 1 (before Angel was a regular) and 4 (before Spike was a regular).

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wolfguard says:
(Wed May 22 19:49:32 2013 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed May 22 20:00:11 2013
Maverick,

No vampire in Anne?

The TEASER from the shooting script of Anne, courtesy of Buffyworld.com


EXT. GRAVEYARD - NIGHT

ANGLE: A GRAVESTONE

It reads: ANDREW HOELICH, 1981-1998.

And from the ground before it, a hand digs its way out of the grave.

The hand is, duh, Andrew's, and he pulls himself slowly up from under, vampire face in a grimace of effort.

A pair of legs steps into frame before him. Girl legs. From one of her hands dangles a wicked looking stake. Nearly all the way out, Andrew looks up at the figure facing him, grins.


WILLOW
That's right, big boy . . .

PUSH IN ON: WILLOW

Facing the vamp with a slayeresque 'tude.


WILLOW
Come and get it.

Andrew rises -- and Willow takes a step back, suddenly less Slayery. Andrew is about to move forward when XANDER grabs him from behind, wrapping his arms tight around him and spinning him to the right.


XANDER
I got him! Go!

OZ steps up from the shadows with a stake -- and pulls back to thrust it at the vamp.


XANDER
Any time now . . .

But Andrew suddenly kicks both legs up, slamming Oz in the jaw and sending him flying back, Andrew's legs continuing up until he flips himself over Xander, gets behind him. Xander spins, ready to fight, as Willow rushes forward to help. Andrew throws Xander into Willow and they both go sprawling. Andrew vaults over the tombstone and starts running away.


WILLOW
He's getting away. And, ow!

Suddenly Oz steps between the other two, an intense look of cool concentration on his face.

ANGLE: THE STAKE

As he flips it, grabbing the pointy end and holding it loosely at his finger tips.

ANGLE: ANDREW

Running away, his back presenting a dwindling target.

ANGLE: OZ

As he concentrates, lining up his shot.

In a blur, he suddenly HURLS the stake like a throwing knife. It bounces uselessly off a tomb about eight feet away. Oz shrugs.


OZ
That really never works.
(turns to the others)
Are you guys all right?


WILLOW
I can't believe he got away.


XANDER
First of all, what was with the acrobatics?
How did that happen?


OZ
Wasn't Andy Hoelich on the gymnastics team?


XANDER
That's right, he was!
(calls out after Andrew)
Cheater!


WILLOW
That wasn't in the obituary. I should
have checked the school records.


XANDER
Okay, and the second problem I'm having . . .
(turns to Willow)
"Come and get it big boy"?


WILLOW
(defensively)
Well, well, the slayer always says
a pun or a witty play on words and
I think it throws vampires off and
makes them frightened that I'm
wisecracking and okay, I didn't
really have time to work on that
one but you try it every time!


OZ
If I can suggest . . . "This time it's
personal . . ."? I mean, there's a
reason why it's a classic.


XANDER
I was always amazed by the
way Buffy fought, but . . .
in a way I think we all took
her punning for granted.


WILLOW
Xander. Past Tense Rule.


XANDER
Sorry. I just meant we in the past
took it for granted and won't when
she . . . when she comes back.



WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed May 22 19:34:19 2013 66.246.173.34) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick And I really, really,really, hope you'ven't forgotten that your take on "B vs D" is not the official canon



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Maverick says:
(Wed May 22 19:19:52 2013 98.209.65.200) [Edit/Delete]
I'm taking drinking a Fifth of Old Grand Dad.


TrivialOldMan: I can't look at every frame of 7 years of Buffy so I'll just say "Dead Man's Party" and "Buffy Meets Dracula" (as he was just an illusion created by "Those Amazing Monks." I know the "Anne" episode did not have any vampires but they may have monitored what the Scoobies were still doing.


Maverick


A Summer Place




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worldguard says:
(Wed May 22 18:41:55 2013 98.192.33.109) [Edit/Delete]
Drive-By


TriviaOldPerson,

Of the 144 episodes of BtVS, how many had no vampires in them?

This is an estimate. *g*

22 (+/- 1).


If you had excluded Spike and Angel, I would not have even tried to estimate the number (especially Spike). *g*

From a skim, it looks like season three was the only one in which every episode had a vampire.



WG



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TrivialOldPerson says:
(Wed May 22 17:33:10 2013 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
ShadowQuest - no vampires at all.

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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed May 22 16:38:52 2013 66.246.173.34) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed May 22 17:38:55 2013
Deadguy Memorial Quod A dramedy with Lorne as a working partner at a more humane casino.* Could have a bunch of musical guests showing up playing versions of themselves.

ShadowQuest Knock 'em dead, lass!

* Actually, that's sort of how I use him, at a casino called the Georgic, in my fic "Never Bet the Devil Someone Else's He ad." I have Anya, after D'Hoffryn gets tired of having his friends torture her and sends her back to Earth, working down the street as a croupier at a casino claled the Calicut, run by a demon named Beltagru, who was once the Treasurer in his home demon dimension.



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ShadowQuest says:
(Wed May 22 15:56:12 2013 65.73.73.196) [Edit/Delete]
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TrivialOldPerson Afraid you'll have to be a bit more specific. Do you mean no vampires at all, which would include Spike & Angel, or do you mean Buffy didn't fight any vampires in that particular episode?

Can't stick around for the answer - gotta get dressed & head to the job fair.

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TrivialOldPerson says:
(Wed May 22 15:35:26 2013 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Question: Of the 144 episodes of BtVS, how many had no vampires in them?

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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed May 22 14:19:34 2013 66.246.173.34) [Edit/Delete]
KAM Beldin The original Black Panther was an itneresting character, but they never seemed to know what to do with him when they tried solo strips. Same thing with Red Wolf.



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KAM says:
(Wed May 22 12:43:26 2013 173.161.108.1) [Edit/Delete]
Good Morning Everyone,

YAY FENRIC

Deadguy QOD
: The Wesley/Illyria show!

Beldin: It may be a brand new character, or a revision of one as well.
Speaking of that...Black Panther...I saw a comic with him (an older neighbor kid had a collection) and thought he was the coolest...and still to this day just dig that character. I think it was the sleek all black costume that just said "awesome."

KAM
Ty King Fan



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed May 22 11:45:00 2013 204.180.133.131) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for fenric!

yay fenric!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by

the laverne & shirley awards - for t.v. spinoffs

if there were a spinoff from angel, what would it have been?

Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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Beldin says:
(Wed May 22 03:43:52 2013 64.92.34.103) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard - Thankee most kindly.


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