DaddyCatALSO,

Enjoy your weekend. :)



WG

I want to wish everyone in the US a happy Independence Day Weekend and say I'll see you all Monday.

And to everyone here, I just want to say that, while day to day my life is a good place, the pure fact is these last 6 and five-sixth's years have been in many ways rather lonely and it's truly been a comfort and a pleasure to have this place and this bunch to come to. Thank you.

Christopher Marlowe
I'll talk about math.

leather jacket's limerick:

There once was a werewolf named Oz,
Dedicated his life to the cause
He gave up his girl and his band
To get control and command
Of his werewolf jaws and his claws.

Here now.

Menomegirl - Looks like someone went spastic with a pencil to me.

wolfguard, Beldin Off to meet the mayor and a few council members aftwards. I might be brave enough to ask him what comic strips he likes. *g*

Offline for a couple hours.

Christopher Marlowe -- OK, I had a tuna fish salad sandwich, half a grapefruit and a bowl of field peas and green beans. :D

Dianne I think it is because veggies aren't full of protein. I've seen suggestions to eat a handful of nuts, that appears to curb the munchies a bit.

Lostinamerica,

At least one political columnist shared your thought on what Senator Obama should had said after disavowing his vow. I agree with you, but I can see why Obama would hesitate to suggestthat the ends can justify the means.


Ebdim9th,

A book club I once belonged to offered The Difference Engine. I meant to read it, but never did. I believe it was an alternative history and in it, Britain never lost the colonies (or kept some of them). One review did not think well of the book.


ETA The Difference Engine (Amazon)

~ 140 used copies beginning at 9 cents. Also, 101 readers' reviews. Average rating 3 out of 5 stars.

ETA 2 One of the readers, J.C., ended the review with these thoughts ...

"...For the most part, the Babbage Engine merely serves the purpose technology tends to serve in cyberpunk novels: to enforce a dystopian status quo for the ruling elite. What the book would have you believe is if the computer age had come a century early, then so would Orwell.

Personally, I think computer advances will undermine central government authorities in the long term, but I don't apply that opinion in trashing this book. I don't have to, since the story and characters are largely uninteresting anyway.

In the meantime, I think the world could still use a good "What If" story about the Babbage Engine. Michael Crichton, if you ever read book reviews on Amazon: Hint! Hint!

Note the final part. Maybe there's a market for an aspiring writer. *g*


WG

Christopher Marlowe -- I had a snack of celery, carrots, broccolli, and a banana less than an hour ago. Why am I still hungry? :(

Menomegirl Semantics has to do with words. I was watching a program a few days ago and it featured a guy who developed a program that appeared to verify that a particular author wrote a book or spots a fake book. It used the frequency of certain words or certain patterns of sentences.

tea time - I've done the water thing and the diet coke thing. I've even done the stale coke from last night thing. I need a different thing now, darjeeling!

Hello again,

Tea time: English Afternoon Tea with Lemon and Sugar and a Granola bar.

HAPPY (Early) INDEPENDENCE DAY AMERICA!
You know, I think it is easy to take for granted how good we've got it in this country, even with things like oil prices causing hardships. I think we live in a world that is essentially a paradise compared to what our ancestors had.
The 4th of July is a great day to remember the brilliant and determined men and women who gave all of this to us with their blood, sweat and tears.
So, here's to my Favorite Nation ever, and also to all of those people from all over the world who have come together with common desires to be the best we can be. Happy Birthday USA!

And to celebrate tomorrow I build a wall, and then watch people blow stuff up.

KAM
Ty King Fan

quick slip-n-slide through

VampSlayer Got your e and am contemplating

Algerina From the state quiz yesterday.

MINNESOTA - A person may not cross the state line without having what on his head?
Duck, book, hat or flower?

There once was a werewolf named Oz,
Dedicated his life to the cause
He tried to control
His animal soul
Smelling Willow on Tara gave him pause and paws

Tea Time
Milanos and ice water

Yay! princess of darkness! Yay!

Happy Birthday to-
Brandi the Slayer
Briel
Kimmie Kat
NancyE
NuBelle
Rusty
SpikesGirl
Writer

Question: Do any of you understand Semantic networks or how they work? I'm drawing a big blank. cause it looks like math to me ergo my brain shorts out...

abt I don't think I've ever read it. Thanks for making us aware of it.

In the remote chance that there will be a new doctor after in the far future, do you think Robert Carlyle is a good choice?

Yay Princess of Darkness!

Happiest of birthdays to Brandi the Slayer, Briel, NancyE, NuBelle, Kimmie Kat, Rusty, SpikesGirl, & Writer!

Leather Jacket That is a fate worse than death, undeath, or vampires for sure!! *g*

Leather Jacket's Limerick (a la Dianne)
There once was a werewolf named Oz,
Dedicated his life to the cause
He had a twitch
For a pretty witch
But his natural urges he couldnt pause

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: Slogans
Question: Uncle Sam Wants You To join what?
Answer: the US Army
trivia masters: Mrs.Beasley, Algerina
trivia comedians: ME!!, Leather Jacket, Dianne

Anyone read this book The Political Mind: Why You Can't Understand 21st-Century American Politics with an 18th-Century Brain - tell me what it's about, agree, disagree?

Hello again,

Christopher Marlowe: Yeah, I really do love my comic collection, even after all these years. I always wanted to build a "vault" for them, and while I didn't do that when I designed my house (not sure why I didn't...oh yeah, cost, time, etc), but I did make an area in the Study for them to reside, and I'm just now starting to get that in shape.

BTW--that Harbinger Hardback is out, and you might be able to find it for a bit of a discount now. The X-O Manowar is also out--both good books from Valiant. I picked both of them up.

KAM
Ty King Fan

Fly by ....


neonate, lostinamerica, Old One - I was thrilled when Spain won the Euro Championships! I was backing them from the beginning and the Germans were poor to say the least.


lostinamerica - In answer to what you said about Ballack and pushing and pulling:

In football, it is accepted that a general amount of jostling for the ball takes place however, football is technically a non-contact sport although in reality that isn't always the case.

General jostling shouldn't be mistaken for obstruction or what are known as cynical fouls, i.e. when a player takes another player out of play to stop them getting the ball before attempting to play the ball themselves.

In the Germany v Portugal match, Ballack pushed the defender out of play before attempting to head the ball. Outside of the box, this type of foul would have resulted in a free kick and the same applies for inside the box, as in this case. Anything that takes place after that push is irrelevant and that 3rd goal would not have stood.

I DO blame the referee and linesman for not seeing it and blowing the whistle but I also blame Ballack for cheating in the first place. A player of his talent (he is clearly the best player for Germany's current team) and his height - he is 6 foot 3 inches and far taller than the Portuguese defender - has no need to resort to such blatant cheating.

In contrast, during the Spain v Germany game you would have seen Spain's Sergio Ramos push a defender in the box before going for the ball. The referee blew the whistle and anything that happened after that was irrelevant.

Also in the Spain v Germany game, on 2 occasions, Ballack stood on a Spaniard's foot (while the other man was running!) without trying to play the ball. With the boots that players wear these days, he could have broken the player's foot and yet he got away with it. The man is a serial cheater I'm afraid. Although what comes around goes around - Ballack has played in 8 cup finals for club and country and lost them all. For Chelsea and Germany this year alone, he has been involved in 4 finals and lost them all. And he wears the number 13. Clearly not the man to have on your team!


Watching Wimbledon now although I am sorry to see Andy Murray go out :(



Flies out of the door again ....

SOs to: abt, Algerina, amystar, angela, Aramina, Austin154, Bossy the Cow, buffyrat, cabin7dad, CaughtNTheQuiet, Christopher Marlowe, DaddyCatALSO, Django, Dru in LA, GothicAvenger, Gray (RIP), helygen, Holy Water, Irishrose, Jaan Quidam, jitsudude (RIP), KAM, k8cre8, Leather Jacket, Leira, loop, lostinamerica, lucille, Maverick, Menomegirl, Morella, neonate, newt, Niblet, Octoquad, Ojagwers, Old One, redwitch, Scourge, ShadowQuest, Shan, slayerdaddy, Thoin, Trinity, VampSlayer, VanHelsing, Watchers Pet, wolfguard, Zeus, white wings, wiccachick, The Birthday Gnome (you bring birthday fun every day!) The wise people = Old Man Fan, Mrs Beasley, valMichael (you guys know everything!), and anyone else Ive missed!

Welcome to the Hellmouth: Because you are the Slayer. Into each generation a Slayer is born,
one girl in all the world, a Chosen One, one born with the strength and skill to hunt the vampires...

Buffy: (smiling at Spike) Hi, honey. I'm home. (attacks him) You know what? It's good to be me. (Halloween)
Xander: Clearly the hellmouths answer to what do you get a slayer who has everything (Surprise)
Willow: (to Oz) I was waiting. I feel like some part of me will always be waiting for you. Like if I'm old and blue-haired, and I turn the corner in
Istanbul and there you are, I won't be surprised. Because... you're with me, you know? (New Moon Rising)
Angel:It's a claddagh ring. The hands represent friendship, the crown represents loyalty... and the heart...
Well, you know... Wear it with the heart pointing towards you. It means you belong to somebody. (Surprise)
Giles: And I myself will be wearing pink taffeta as chenille would not go with my complexion.
Can we *please* talk about the Ascension? (The Prom)
Faith: (to Buffy) Are you protecting vampires? Are you the bad slayer now? Am I the good slayer now? (Dirty Girls)
Spike:Love isn't brains, children, it's blood... (clasps his chest) blood screaming inside you to work its will.
*I* may be love's *****, but at least *I'm* man enough to admit it. (Lovers Walk)

City of : Los Angeles. You see it at night and it shines. A beacon. People are drawn to it. People and other things.
They come for all sorts of reasons. My reason? No surprise there. It started with a girl.

Angel: (to Lindsey) I'm just here to say 'bon voyage'. Don't come back. (Dead End)
Cordelia: (to Wesley) What? That she'd try to manoeuvre Angel into an exchange of bodily fluids in order to make herself eternally young
and beautiful, thus saving her failing career? Gee, now that you mention it. (Eternity)
Wesley: I had my throat cut and all my friends abandoned me. (Spin the Bottle)
Gunn: (to Angel) You enjoying your visit to nineteen seventy three? (Picks up a memo pad) I meant her message pad. (Epiphany)
Fred: (to her parents) Angel's the champion, and Wesley's the brains of the operation, Gunn's the muscle
and Cordy's the heart, and I'm... (Fredless)
Lorne: (to Angel) What's to understand? You think you're the first guy who ever rolled over, saw what was lying next to him and went 'Guyeah!'
And you're not. Believe me. - It's called a moment of clarity, my lamb. And you've just had one. (Epiphany)
Lindsey:The key to Wolfram and Hart: don't let them make you play their game. You gotta make them play yours. (Dead End)

DaddyCatALSO How would you place his character in No Time for Sargeants? Which was another excellent role.

KAM Collecting comics because you just simply enjoy them is a great reason. Most of the comics I would be donating are basically scattered issues of various titles, usually impulse buys.

Excellent point about politics and the candidates. Thank you for making it.

Happy Birthday Brandi the Slayer, Briel, NancyE, NuBelle,
Kimmie Kat, Rusty, SpikesGirl, & Writer !

Christopher Marlowe
Now I have visions of you and Uncle Sam that are so distrubing

lostinamerica Christopher Marlowe Not to denigrate Mr. Griffith's acting (which I've always felt was superb, and I've seen him in sevral roles out of his usual range) but in a way, Lonesome Rhodes and Andy Taylor can be described as (quotes deliberate) "nothing but" Hyde and Jeckyll versions of the same character.

VampSlayer wolfguard I can't help thinking that, had the Democratic nomiantion gone differently, you'd probably both be voting for the same candidate in November . . . and before the election you'd still be arguing like this anyway.

valMichael - I tried emailing you using the address below and was told mikelmcclellan at yahoo.com had been disabled or discontinued.

Christopher Marlowe "Advanced technology" would be out of character for a world who's best armaments are steam powered vehicles and single shot shotgun (think blunderbus) type weapons. Most combat is hand-to-hand, so standard axe-hammer-sword-shield are common. Besides, the way combat is portrayed with hit points etc. you normally can't kill someone with just one shot or blow unless that are pretty weak and you are way more powerful.

Leather Jacket Limerick

There once was a werewolf named Oz,
Dedicated his life to the cause
to protect his species
from rogue mitsubishis
passing tougher protection laws

How about a patriotic starter for tomorrow?

Good Morning Everyone,

YAY PRINCESS OF DARKNESS!

Christopher Marlowe: I've got quite a collection of comics, which while valuable to me (because I love them) aren't terribly valuable. The sheer volume adds up to a lot, but no single book of mine is worth any significant amount. Of course, that's not what collecting is about to me...not that you in any way suggested that it was...I'm just commenting about collections.

I noted your comments on politics, and wanted to make a comment. Politics
It seems to me that Senator McCain has a long history of positions that are unpopular with his own party, which indicates he is a person willing to make his own judgements. This is wholly different of course from whether or not I agree with those judgements. To me, that is an important quality of leadership--saying "this is the right thing to do, regardless of how popular it makes me."
Senator Obama has a very short political career in National Government, and, most of his Senate tenure has been spend campaigning for President. I hear all sorts of complaints about what's wrong in this Nation, but why isn't this US Senator (or any elected official) working every day to SOLVE those problems? What exactly has Senator Obama done as a Senator (in a Democrat controlled congress) to create legislation to address these things he believes are problems?

I'm not stupid enough to believe that any Presidential Candidate is going to swoop into office and "fix" anything. I believe that anyone forwarding that notion is a liar, plain and simple. Of course, I don't believe government is there to solve my problems--they are there for very specific reasons--one of which is to protect this nation from Foreign entities that seek to harm it, and to avoid hindering us with idiotic laws that cripple our ability to take care of ourselves.

In regards to these "attacks" from one side or the other. I hear a lot of complaints from Obama's side (including many media commentators) about attacks, and of course we've heard these recent complaints about Clark's comments. Here's what I say--I hope they stop lying to us. This "They are mean to me" cry-baby stuff is a load of nonsense. This is politics, and if you think you can get away with "You can't say that about me" then I hope they are in for a rude awakening. I want the Media and the opposite camps out there saying "Hey--you said this one time and now you've changed your position--how do you justify that?" "You said X, Y or Z--what exactly do you mean by that?" When these jokers make stupid comments (and they do), I want some REAL reporters out there holding their feet to the fire. I'm sick of this softball fawning over these media-created figures. Obama is the precious little angel of the Media today, but McCain was in the past too.

I shudder to think we are going to put a person in office who can't bear to be criticized. If people think that the Onslaught of hate (justified or not) heaped on President Bush is going to end when he leaves office...I doubt it. Politics has gotten more petty and personal than ever, and we certainly shouldn't elect any candidate whose best defense when questioned is "You can't say that about me."

Tim Russert's recent death reminds me of how unique he was as a reporter in today's world. He would unabashedly ask the tough questions, and put politicians on the spot. Apparently that is a rare thing today, because most "reporters" are too busy campaigning for their chosen candidate rather than doing their blessed jobs.

Sorry for ranting towards you (not at you), but McCain and Obama need to toughen up a bit (politically, not making a comment on them personally) and get ready to lead this Nation. We've got real issues, and some hard decisions are going to be made in the next 4 years--and we can't afford to have some pandering, feel-good campaigner, when we need a President.

Politics

KAM
Ty King Fan

Trivia Girl -- I don't know, but The Who wants you to Join Together with the Band. :D

Trivia Girl : Uncle Sam apparently wants me to join the AARP based on the mail I've been getting lately. Also, the ranks of the bankrupt.
And blame the voters. They got you into this mess.

Finish The Limerick

Thanks to those who participated yesterday:
Nicely done: kathypg, lostinamerica, Ojagwers, OldManFan
Never too Late: kathypg, Ojagwers
LOL: drunkenfairy (You mean the poor man was stuck with Vista?), Algerina

Today's Limerick is brought to you by Dianne. She worked hard, so I wouldn't have to.

There once was a werewolf named Oz,
Dedicated his life to the cause

My entry for yesterday:
There once was a Sunnydale cop
Who looked for a crime he could stop
At a graveyard one night
When a vampire caught sight
(Good thing Buffy had a sharp riding crop)
Good thing Buffy was near with back-up

Yes, it's harder than it looks.

I was going to ask whether there's really any interest in my posting a limerick starter tomorrow, but from what I remember of holidays, we may need all the starters we can get.

Ojagwers : I had to look up Dr. Horrible. It looks ... um ... interesting.

Trivia Girl: He wants me for naughty purposes.

Happy Birthday Brandi the Slayer, Briel, NancyE, NuBelle,
Kimmie Kat, Rusty, SpikesGirl, & Writer !

Trivia Girl
Meet with the mayor la de da

The Army

Trivia Girl

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Uncle Sam wanted me to join the United States Army, because I rappeled of the side of a building after the last exam in the worst semester of my college life. Jumping off a building seemed like a great idea that day.

Again, an early trivia question because I'm leaving work early to meet the mayor this afternoon. I'd blame someone for this, but that would have to be me! What's even worse is some damned potluck today as well. I LOATHE POTLUCKS!

Algerina I will definite get the Dancing with Werewolves, anything set in Vegas can't be nothing but fun.

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits

Category: Slogans
Question: Uncle Sam Wants You To join what?

yay princess of darkness!


Happy CD Thursday!
Oh Brother, Where Art Thou

let's hear a great big bronze cheer for princess of darkness!

yay princess of darkness!


Happy CD Thursday!

Bossy The Cow Ah, just your normal life. *g* I might go insane next week. I have a swearing in ceremony to go to on Monday, a party on Wednesday and a workshop on Friday. I don't want do either the party or the workshop, but I'm sort of forced to.

Christopher Marlowe
Bossy the Cow is insanely busy with work, her bonkers family being bonkers and going to many many gigs.

kathypg Yeah, talking politics can be quite hairy. Not sure if it is better or worse than talking about math. *g*

lostinamerica Man, I hope they never do that again on 'Shear Genius', it was almost worthless.

Yay Red Crayon!

Happy Birthday
Bow
DZRAY
Feena's Mum
Friend or Foe
Joshua
lainey2
shadoed
Willow's Snake

Leather Jacket's Limerick

I dusted off my D-V-Ds
Fireflys, Angels and Buffys
Watching them frequently
I still can't say with certainty
Why they never won best show emmys

Christopher Marlowe
It was a long day. I didn't get home until 7 and had to go shopping after that. At least we had a day without rain for a change. I am caught up on my paperwork and have the next two days off because I'm working the weekend. I noticed a lot of talk of politics on the board today. It is probably my least favorite topic to talk about. Well that and religion. That is sad because those of things that need to be talked about, because they are important. One of the hardiest jobs in the world is being President. This is such a large nation with the needs of its population being so varied that what works for one group is harmful for another. There is no way that everyone can be served equally by government. My hope is that politicians don't let themselves get caught up in big money or special interest and forget that they should be there for all the people.

WG (for tomorrow) {and also Dianne} you got it exactly. Babbage's idea was the basis for a novel of the same name: "The Difference Engine" by Bruce Sterling and William Gibson. Which, sadly, Ive read about, but have not read. It's very hard to find. Even at Barnes and Nobles its been a no-go.

kathypg How did your day go today?

ETA to make sense.

Leather Jacket's Limerick



There once was a Sunnydale cop
Who looked for crimes he could stop
He didn't have any luck
Cause the demons and vamps ran amuck
So he ate donuts and drank soda pop

wolfguard I'm glad you do. I trust Obama. C'est la vie. *g*

Christopher Marlowe--And to think Andy Griffith played both Lonesome Rhodes and Sheriff Andy Taylor--now that's acting!


wolfguard--I just thought Obama was the force of change, not politics as usual ;)

Once, just once, I'd like a politician to say something like, "You know, earlier I did pledge to use only taxpayer funding to fund my candidacy. But because I've been able to raise more private money than I'd ever hoped, and I think my ideas are so necessary to the success of the country right now, I feel I have to do what I can to win the presidency. And if that means going back on this particular promise, so be it."

Now what's wrong with saying that? He's being completely honest on why he's changing his position, and I can follow the logic in his argument. Seems like a win-win to me, yet politicians never see it that way and inevitably attempt some convoluted explanation as to why they've felt the need to change positions. It's too bad, really.


*and on that political note, it's back to my son's sleepover. Strangely they are not at all interested in this argument but rather where are the Cokes and candy?*

Yay Red Crayon!



Algerina,

When I would visit Sunnydale, I usually staid outside the city. Sometimes at Will-o-the-Wisp Inn in Utopia Springs which lies west of Sunnydale. Othertimes, I staid at the The Fang & Stake Bed & Breakfast in this district east of Sunnydale. *g*



Good Night to All

WG

Ebdim9th,

When I first read "differential engine," thought of one of the first 'computers,' Babbage's "difference engine"(?).

What are you going to do with this information? *g*


ETA Christopher Marlowe,

We humans try to predict each others' behavior all the time. Sometimes we're right, sometimes not so much. I've watched Senator McCain for a couple decades now. I trust him.

WG

wolfguardI'm not sure McCain is the best example of principled behavior. There is no guarantee McCain would make a principled decision faced with such a circumstance again. Attempting to predict with certainty future behavior on past behavior is a tricky business.

Ebdim9th -- a differential engine seems to be one where the crankshaft runs one way (clockwise) and the flywheel runs the other (counterclockwise).

WG, is there such thing as a differential engine?

Christopher Marlowe,

While I'm willing to discuss the pro's and con's of military service as it might affect one's ability to serve as president, that was not my aim. Since I've appeared to miss, I'll restate it. *g*

While serving as an officer in the United States Navy, John McCain was placed in a situation where he had to make a decision. One choice would see him free and the other not. He chose to stay based on principles. It was an honorable decision.

As VampSlayer, noted, perhaps Senator Obama, given a similar situation, would have done the same. Possibly, but who knows, he never was in such a situation. So have we a proxy? Do we have a case where Senator Obama had to make a decision, one choice which would benefit him and the other not? Once upon a time, Senator Obama vowed to accept public financing contingent on his opponent doing the same. His opponent has accepted public financing. Senator Obama, doing quite well with private financing, has shunned his earlier vow.

It's not about military service, it's about principled behavior.



WG

wolfguard, VampSlayer Both candidates seem to be flip-flopping more than fish. McCain seems to have been against the Marriage Amendment before he was for it. I expect their message will continue to change. What I am deathly tired of is every damn day they take potshots at each other. They need a pacifier or a time out or something.

McCain or Obama will certainly trumpet their qualities as much as possible, although I cast a very skeptical eye on McCain's lauding his own service as making him a better candidate. And Obama's switch on Public Finance does not exaclty fill me with warm fuzzies.

Bush himself didn't have much of a stint in the military.

VampSlayer,


"...'Even though we stood to receive more than $80m in taxpayer funding for our campaign, the system has been so gamed and exploited by our opponents that it is effectively broken,' proclaimed his website. Then on a mock-up of an old parchment,it boasted that over 110,000 citizens 'have declared their independence from a borken system by supporting the first presidential election truly funded by the people.' This is truly the audacity of humbug. Mr. Obama has long maintained that taxpayer-funded campaigns save the candidate from becoming obligated to private donors. Now he suggests that relying on private donors shows moral courage akin to that displayed by those who signed the Declaration of Independence..."

From The Economist, June 28 - July 4th, p. 37


WG

VampSlayer,

"...And you are assuming that Barack Obama, if given the same oppurtunity in a Prison Camp..

He might, but just as he's never served as a mayor or a governor or run business - who knows?


More follows *g*


WG

wolfguard:

Or it could be *gasp* that it was actually for the reason he stated. Oh no!? What's that mean?

He's right - the Public Finance for candidates is flawed, ridiculous, rigged to favor the Republican Party, and un-needed now. In the age of the internet, and with both campaigns really not in need of cash options, I'd say this is yet another non-issue being made into one b/c there really isn't any "trash" from Obama's past that can be brought into play effectively.

The American Public as a whole is sick of the same old thing, and they recognize games when they see it. Games aren't helping the middle class, or soldiers committed to 2 tours who have them extended to 4, 5, 7? While their families endure and suffer not only emotionally, but economically, and God help them, too many times physically. And like it or not, candidates are people; and the people voting are going to vote for the person who is offering not only solutions, but positive encouragement in an age of "Fear is the only worry you need have, and we have that firmly under control. Nothing to see here. Move along. Continue shopping. All is well."

And you are assuming that Barack Obama, if given the same oppurtunity in a Prison Camp, would be less of a Patriot and would fail or let down his Country?

I was simply saying it shouldn't even be an issue or a talking point. Mostly because it's not. General Clark started the whole thing - only he didn't. My rant was about that very thing, and nothing more.

"One thing vampire children are taught is, never run with a wooden stake."

Jack Handy, 'Deep Thoughts'


"I was particularly stunned by the casting of [Tom] Cruise, who is no more my Vampire LeStat than Edward G. Robinson is Rhett Butler."

Anne Rice



VampSlayer,

I did not comment on General Clark's statement. I noted a situation each candidate faced where they had to make a choice. As a POW, Senator McCain would have personally benefited by accepting his captors' offer. He did not, because it went against his principles. This is an concrete example of honor.

A year or so ago, Senator Obama said if his opponent accepted public financing, then he would accept public financing. Some have said he did so on principle, some said it was a tactical move. He has now disavowed his vow, I'd say it was a tactic cloaked as a principle. :)


WG

wolfguard:

As always, you choose to read what you wish, and leave out the rest of what I said.

With respect to your opinion, you have little to no knowledge about Senator Obama's struggles and what brought him to where he is.

That being said, there is no comparison between what they both endured throughout life; McCain clearly had it rough, and held together courageously. And I'm sure given the chance, Obama would still gladly have endured what he went through and what he fought for in Inner City neighborhoods over McCain's ordeal.

I respect Senator McCain immensley as a person. As a leader of the Nation we live in now, not so much. He is ill equiped; earning my respect? he did that the minute he enlisted and offered to serve; the being held captive and the courage it took wasn't necessary, but only goes to further my respect.

But it doesn't make him a better choice for President. Sorry, but this isn't a Nation where pissing contests over who got tortured more wins the prize. At least not yet, and at least not as long as I can yell and scream and breathe and exercise my right to protests and speak freely.

My point was General Clark said nothing he need apologize for, and nothing that didn't deserve saying. The fact that McCain's camp chooses to hide behind his service and continues to try and feed this to people as a "flaming insult", rather than simply move on and talk address the imposrtant issues facing a new President only proves he has very little to offer in terms of policy and direction.

And before you continue to go High and Mighty on me - I come from a family of servers. My Great Grandfather, my Grandfather, my Father, and my middle Brother all volunteered to serve their country. Doesn't make them ready or equiped to run a country; espescially one as complicated as this one.

Doesn;t even make them qualified to run for City Council. Just makes them honorable. Is it a quality I want in a Leader? Of course. But honor is earned in a hell of a lot more ways than just military sacrifice.

Niblet The Lone Gunman eps were always good, although I don't think you can top 'Jose Chung's From Outer Space'.

Beldin Wouldn't be surprised of some one is writing stories about those places.

wolfguard I shall keep a wary eye. *g*

Christopher Marlowe - I find those, or rather the fact of their existence, very interesting. We never saw some of those places and Joss never got to develop his Blue Sun storyline.

Happy Birthday
Bow
DZRAY
Feena's Mum
Friend or Foe
Joshua
lainey2
shadoed
Willow's Snake

neonate I love the comedy episodes. Actually that's probably a redundant thing to say; I'm sure everybody loves them. Especially Mulder's 'Captain America' pose in Humbug. I remember when we first saw that ep, it took us completely by surprise (neither of us ever really watched X-Files on TV so we believed that all the episodes were as straight-laced as they had been up until then). Nothing is funnier than unexpected comedy.

Dr Newton: "After talking with Agent Mulder here I suddenly feel slightly... constipated."

Beldin I don't know of anyone who has a set, but here is a link to the posters.

Blue Sun Travel Posters

Christopher Marlowe,

If the Mayor offers you a 'moist towlette', run! *g*



Ojagwers,

Thank you for the explanation on the actors' situation.



Lostinamerica,

Senator Obama

((The Senator is showing himself a consummate politician. Whether than is good or bad depends on how one views politicians. *g*

Off that, there's the question of whether a person skilled in politics is to one's advantage or not. If a politician is promoting policies with which one disagrees, then one hopes said politician is incompetent. *g*))


WG

Would you look at what TFAW is selling. And, would you look at the price. Does anyone here have a Blue Sun travel poster set?

Beldin, DaddyCatALSO I forgot to pick up Angel. I thought Buffy was ok, not a great deal of Fray.

DaddyCatALSO If you mean the missile, yeah, I know what y ou mean.

Beldin I met the current President of the council at 4 pm, that went very well. I was supposed to meet a union rep at 5 pm. But when I got to the meeting location, he wasn't there. I got a hold of him and rescheduled for next Wednesday. It's not terribly critical meeting, so long as we can get together at some point.

I'm having a brief meeting with the Mayor tomorrow afternoon and one other council member. Neither should be very long, it's just a get to know each other kind of thing.

VampSlayer Christopher MArloweI know I've said it before but from the spoilers I'mr eading on Buffy 16 and Angel 10, I'm really disliking where this is all going more and more.

Christopher Marlowe - That doesn't sound good. Who were you meeting?

Beldin Back earlier than I expected. Either I got blown off or one or both of us got the wrong day. Le Sigh.

lostinamerica He was definitely frightening. It seemed so much worse because he was known as such a nice person.

wolfguard--I read your spoilered comment--yeah, I laughed when I read that awhile back, though I suppose I should have cried. The more things change, the more they stay the same, eh ;)

VampSlayer,

Since you brought up politics. *g*

Choices & Character

((John McCain was shot down and became a prisoner of war in 1967. He was severely injured and those injuries went untreated by his captors. He was tortured. In 1968, his father, a Navy Admiral, became commander of US forces in the Pacific. The North Vietnamese offered McCain an early release.

McCain had a choice. He could be freed or he could remain a prisoner till the end of the war. He told his captors that unless every POW captured before him was first released, then he would not accept the offer. They said no. He said no. And the torture resumed.

As for Senator Obama ....

"...Last year, when he was a plucky outsider running against the mighty Clinton machine, he vowed to break with the mucky money politics of the past by adhering to the strict spending limits that come with public subsidy. On June 19th, having discovered that he is the best fund-raiser in American political history, he broke his word..."

From The Economist, June 28th-July4th issue.

With respect to honor, Senator Obama has yet to demonstrate himself in the same league as Senator McCain.))


WG

Here now.

Christopher Marlowe - Thanks. Our one comic book shop closed. I pre-ordered it from TFAW but I don't know when I'll get it.

Beldin First issue of Buffy with the appearance of Fray is in comic stores today.

Christopher Marlowe--No, he wasn't cute. But he had the most attractive quality of all in a repairman--he was at the house when he said he would be here :)

Though we have been having trouble again today and I'm currently waiting for another call from the cable company, which means I'm not a happy camper--it's really a pity, such a nice young man, who just happens to live on a farm in a community not too far from here. . .*shakes head* tsk, tsk, the way people volunteer information these days. . .


DaddyCatALSO, Christopher Marlowe--Andy Griffith was the creepiest guy ever in A Face in the Crowd. I don't know why he wasn't nominated for an Academy Award for that performance.


Leather Jacket--

There once was a Sunnydale cop
Who looked for a crime he could stop
But super power he had not
So he quit on the spot
And then bought the town's Magic Shoppe.


And yes, I agree with you, Algerina and Ojagwers about Anne Rice's vampires--they're so freakin' cerebral, to defeat them all you'd have to do is ask them, "So, what is your place in this world? Are you an agent of good, or evil? Can you be redeemed?" and you can easily escape once they collapse onto the ground in despair as they try to reason out the purpose of their being. Apparently the existentialist movement completely ruined them forever.

And Stoker's vampires are easily killed. Joss' are the most dangerous.


Mrs. Beasley--Happy Birthday to your sister!


Yay! RedCrayon!

abt I'm just trying to make it through today. I'll be leaving in about fifteen minutes to meet one of my fellow council members and after that, I meet a union fellow.

Beldin May get home by 6 or 7 pm.

valMichael Would advanced technology be an asset or liability in a world like Azeroth?

Ojagwers Vamp Slayer"actually, I think the Presidency *should* be earned, but it shouldn't be a consolation prize for previous injustices/injuries. Don't worry, I don't think the American public is that tenderhearted :)"

No, I don't think so either, regardless of whose injustices are in question.

valMichael - Thank you. Now I'm done and can lay it to rest.

wolfguard - Thanks to valMichael, I can now conclude that my answer to the kinetic weapon I last posted is correct and my projectile will impact with the force of 3.89x10^15 Joules, or 929,700 tons of TNT.

tea time - is COFFEE!! Can you hear me? COFFEE!!! Did I mention COFFEE!

Beldin at the speed your are talking about 2.5x10^6, you can pretty much ignore the effects of gravity on the object. Even a tiny 1 kg object hitting at that speed would expend about 1/2 megaton of TNT in energy!!

Chritsopher Marlowe You mean on Azeroth's dimensions. There's another way to look at it. The plant is huge with a very low density so that it looks flat locally. All the continents are really must medium sized islands on the same side of the planet. A third island where the Lich King lives will be added north of both continents when that upgrade comes out. :) Remember, technology isn't that advanced - they still use swords and bows. :)

abt - It was. Then Sellers came in and stole the camera. So the rest were about him.

Zoom through

Christopher Marlowe Gosh darn my muse!

Now I'm seriously considering attempting to make a scale armor shirt. Not that I have a reason to wear it, since I'm not going to BreyerFest, but...a scale armor shirt, a practical skirt...

Zoom, zoom

Christopher Marlowe - I'm trying to get to Saturday...

Beldin - ISTR the star of The Pink Panther was supposed to be David Niven. cc DaddyCatALSO

Ojagwers:

Yeah. I think the definition of that word in the context you're using it and the point I was trying to make are two different things.

But winning the election isn't where it ends. For a long time we've let slip too many Presidential and Congressional misstepping - allowing them to spend years running for re-election rather than earning the right to serve the American people.

And I do not mean just the last 7.5 years.

Anyone got a way to make time go faster so Friday can get here today?

Good morning and SOs to all here, especially but not only abt, Algerina, Amarra, amystar, angela, Aramina, Artie, AussieBullDog, Beldin, Bossy the Cow, cabin7dad, Captain Chaos, CaughtNtheQuiet, Christopher Marlowe, Dachelle, DaddyCatALSO, Django, Dogmeat, Ebdim9th, 4paws, Foot Tapper, Genevieve's Lucie, Glow Boy, GothicAvenger, halfrek, helygen, Hollyn, Holy Water, HumVee, Irishrose, Jaan Quidam, Jocasta, judas, k8cre8, KAM, Kiba Rika, Leather Jacket, loop, lostinamerica, lucille, Luv_Lux, Major Wiggins, Maverick, Menomegirl, Morella, Mr. Holtz, MozzarellaDemon, neonate, newt, Niblet, Nirvana 1, Old One, OldManFan, paks, Peace Fire, Pfeifferpack, Phoenix, redwitch, Rikki, roja, Serina, ShadowQuest, Shan, SheBit, speare, Trinity, valMichael, VampSlayer, Watcher's Pet, white wings, wolfguard, Xanderella, Y_slaybelle and everybody else!

Yay 1cham!

Yay Red Crayon!

Happy Birthday Birthday Persons!

Leather Jacket limerick:
There once was a Sunnydale cop
Who looked for crimes he could stop
Alas, for his mettle
He had to settle
For aftermath cleanup with mop.

I dusted off my D-V-Ds
Fireflys, Angels and Buffys
Leaving shelf room for
Dollhouse, Dr. Horrible and more
Joss Whedon stuff -- more, yes, please!


VampSlayer, actually, I think the Presidency *should* be earned, but it shouldn't be a consolation prize for previous injustices/injuries. Don't worry, I don't think the American public is that tenderhearted :)

QoD, I'd go with Joss' vamps, as they actually have plans and fighting skills. Dracula had pretty modest goals and his thralls were borderline brainless. The Anne Rice vamps are formidable only if their incessant brooding, whinging and aimlessness are likely to drive one insane or to suicide to get away from it.

Tuesday QoD, if vampires can smell my extreme anemia (at one point, I was told I might need a transfusion if my red blood count didn't improve), I'd say my chances of survival are excellent! :)

wolfguard, Christopher Marlowe, here's what I understand about the SAG situation. The SAG contract with the producers/AMPTP expired June 30. *However,* in order to actually go on strike, there has to first be a strike authorization vote, which hasn't happened yet. (This was also true of the WGA, but the WGA had the authorization vote before the contract expired.) Right now, the actors are simply working without a union contract in place. SAG and AFTRA (the union for actors who appear on shows shot on videotape instead of on film) have 44,000 members in common. AFTRA has apparently agreed to their deal with the AMPTP, but is formally voting on it on July 8. Because of that significant membership overlap, SAG appears to be waiting to see what happens with the AFTRA vote until taking further action. Hope that made sense (in terms of a coherent explanation -- in terms of what's going on in showbiz, nothing ever makes sense) ...

Ojagwers