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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Feb 23 15:13:32 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Friday, February 3rd 2018 C.E.

We have TWO (2) Birthdays!


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Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to major Hobgob, SWFM!



Mal: Then I call it a win. What's the problem? Inara: Should I start with the part where you're stranded in the middle of nowhere, or the part where you have no clothes?
'Trash''


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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Feb 23 14:44:14 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay fenric!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!

Agent Cooper I really hope
Batgirl still gets made!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Feb 23 13:35:47 2018 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
Well, Joss has backed out of the Batgirl movie. That's a shame, he would have done a good job I think.

Batgirl could still be good, but now Paul Dini absolutely MUST be involved with it.

DC has done such a wonderful job with the Animated Universe. Those are really great, so well done. I wish they could carry that over to film the way Marvel has.



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Feb 23 12:23:33 2018 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for fenric!

yay fenric!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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Maverick says:
(Fri Feb 23 07:36:18 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard: Carter appointed Volker (mid 1979) but when Reagan took over 1-1/2 years later (1981,) the economy was sinking into a recession (that would later, eventually dissipate the inflation of that period.) Despite the DOWN economy of the time when Reagan took office, he stuck with Volker and his policies, and Reagan even reappointed Volker in 1983. I would argue that Reagan ended the inflation of that period (remember Gerald Ford's W(hip)I(inflation)N(ow) campaign? Fortunately, Reagan's other fiscal policies mitigated the harshness of Volker's strategy. I would also argue that Reagan largely put the Soviet Union out of business by his concentration on the Strategic Defense Initiative (which everyone called Star Wars.) At that time Gorbachev (who WAS reform-minded) admitted ultimately that he could not spend and keep up, so he allowed the U.S.S.R. to break up. I remember Reagan's speech asking Gorbachev to "Tear Down that Wall" (meaning the Berlin Wall) and 29 months later Gorbachev allowed the Berlin Wall to be dismantled. So, just like Margaret Thatcher, I believe Reagan was largely responsible for the break-up of the U.S.S.R.


Likewise, I question Wikipedia's history reporting regarding the switch-over of Democrats to the Republican party, when Johnson's "heroic" civil-rights legislation supposedly chased some Democrats away to the Republican Party. Up to that point supposedly the Democrats were committed to keeping blacks "in their place, subservient and at the bottom." I would argue Democrats are still so committed. First of all the Civil Rights votes were still determined largely by the Republicans who voted overwhelmingly FOR them, and the key was the Voter Registration Legislation (shown in the movie "Selma") which was meant to quash all the Jim Crow local legislation that stopped blacks from being able to vote (Republican.) At the time Johnson came up with his Anti-Poverty Legislation (which convinced many blacks to vote Democratic) and he was sure that he would have "those Ni**ers voting Democratic for the next 200 years." I would argue that today they still live on (urban) plantations, and, because there is not very often a man in the family and the children are raised by one parent, they lose a lot of motivation and discipline and forward inertia in their lives.


Maverick


Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now




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Shan says:
(Fri Feb 23 04:26:32 2018 1.43.39.41) [Edit/Delete]
Tony Abbott's cerebral status is
a bit suspect, never mind his
command of the English language.

We were aghast when he once
suggested he could go toe to
toe/mano a mano with Vladimir
Putin (well, that's what we
think he said - see
English, command of) because we
all knew that Putin would eat him
alive.

Seriously, that is a man you
don't want to mess with at the
best of times even when you have
the means to back up what you're
saying ... which we do not.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Feb 23 02:23:44 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO,

The inflation of the 1970s was not ended by Ronald Reagan. It was ended by
Fed Chairman Paul Volcker. Volcker raised the prime rate to ~21%. This
worked, but many believe the cost was the double-dip recession of the early
80s.

At this point I'll not argue for or against Reagan's role in the dissolution
of the USSR. I do believe the following is important context in such a
discussion...

By the late 1970s, the Soviets knew their economic system was unable to
produce the quantity and quality of goods associated with western capitalist
economies and began looking for solutions. They concluded one weakness was
technology - they needed western technologies. Setting aside political
issues, the USSR needed foreign currency to buy western technology and the
only products they had to sale that foreigners wanted was weapons, oil and
some other commodities.1During the 70s world oil prices were
high, but the 80s oil prices had dropped. The Soviets didn't have enough
money to buy all the technologies they needed. Recourse? Borrow from western
banks, but banks needed the nod of western governments. To get that nod,
Gorbachev concluded Soviet military adventures had to be cut back. He
decided the USSR could no longer intervene militarily in WARSAW Pact
countries and he told their leaders as much.

Along with policies to acquire foreign technology, Gorbachev worked on
improving the domestic political and economic sphere - the famous policies
of glasnost and perestroika. As it played out, opening political
participation came easier than improving the economic structures. A result
was people were more free to complain about a poorly performing economy and
this was a major factor in the downfall of the USSR (but not the only
factor).


1 During the 70s the USSR had to import grains to feed the
population. I believe one of the commodities the USSR had to export was gold
and gold's price was probably rising during the 70s. Still, not enough gold
to buy all the stuff the USSR needed to import.



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Feb 23 02:15:48 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Celebrities
Question: What actor/singer was sometimes called 'Chairman of the Board'
Answer: Sinatra

Trivia Board Presidents: Agent Cooper, notsoShyGirl!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Feb 23 00:57:14 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Shan,

One problem with looking at the past through contemporary eyes is that often
the party's position may have changed or the labels' meanings may have
changed.

An example of the first is the Democratic Party. Until the late 60s the
Southern Democrats were associated with policies and programs aimed at
keeping African-Americans in their place - subservient and at the bottom.
1 During these years the Republican Party was associated with
freeing and supporting African-American rights. Things changed though. LBJ's
civil rights legislation drove the Southern Democrats away and Nixon wooed
them to the Republicans by changing some Republican positions (simplifying I
am).

(The core of the following is drawn from Wikipedia's article on Whigs (US).
I've added some coloring, mostly in the footnotes)

As an example of the latter, take the history of the Whig Party. Its roots
were in the Democratic-Republican Party (that's right, one party) which had
its roots in the Federalist party.2 . The opposing ~party was the
anti-Federalist who believed in world of yeoman farmers and artisans with a
decentralized government. Jefferson stood for its positions.3
Anyway, when the Democratic-Republican Party splintered some of the
splinters formed the National Republicans.

Once members of the National Republicans and the Anti-Masonics came together
to form the Whigs in opposition to the Jacksonians (perhaps America's first
populist party - and Democrats.4). The Whigs favored
modernization, economic protectionism, and a strong Congress. Some Whigs
were morally against 'indian removal" policies. The Whig party fell apart
over the issue of expanding slavery into the territories. The Whig's
northern base became Republicans and the southern base joined the "Know
Nothing" Party.

A takeaway is people and groups are more complicated that most ardent
political partisans can appreciate. *g*


1 The 1924 Democratic Convention was nick-named the "Klanbake"
because of the influence the KKK had over the Democrats.

2 The Federalist was probably the original political party in the
US. It believed in a strong central government and policies promoting trade,
business and development. Alexander Hamilton was a key Federalist.

3 Jefferson did not always abide by his principles. He did not
believe a president had the power to buy the Louisiana territory Napoleon
offered. But, Jefferson knew a steal when he saw one (It's said Napoleon
made the offer because he needed cash fast and fancied he could one day
retake the land from the US).

4 Yes, Andrew Jackson, the president's whose bust sits in Trump's
oval office, was a Democrat. That said, a Democrat from c. 1820 is not
equivalent to a contemporary Democrat.


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Feb 22 22:31:46 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Shan,

Lincoln was ranked #1. Lincoln was a Republican. Theodore Roosevelt ranked
#4 and he was Republican, though he did try to pull Republicans a left and
later ran as a progressive. Ronald Reagan ranked #9.

I'm not sure where Eisenhower ranked, though in the past decade or two (?)
he's tended to move up in rankings. There seems to be an emerging consensus
that he was underestimated, in part based on his own machinations.
1

Of course, there have been many attempts at ranking presidents. Some try to
use some sort of well-defined framework, while others just ask the experts
to state their learned-opinion. Caveat Emptor.

For instance, what if the ranking was based on how successful a president
was in achieving the goals he set for himself during the election? President
Polk set four major goals, achieved all, and refused to run a second term.
Few presidents can claim such success. OTOH, most of his goals were aimed at
expanding the US across the continent and the war with Mexico was was one
means. It was a controversial war with many Americans feeling it amoral.
Nevertheless, the US benefited from it and the Mexicans did not (How would
you describe the history of the relationship between Indonesia and
Australia?).

More in a bit,


1 In the spirit of Reagan's quote, ~It's amazing what you can
accomplish if you don't care who gets the credit.~




WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Feb 22 19:39:15 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO, Shan, & White Wings,

Hope to continue discussion later tonight. :)


Shan,

Thanks for the balanced assessment of Abott. *g* That said, what do you think
of what he said, "You cannot an election without a fight."?


WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Feb 22 16:35:23 2018 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
HAH! In before Notsoshygirl -- and with the correct answer no less!

*NUMFAR, DO THE DANCE OF TRIVIA VICTORY!*

Chris Marlowe - I wish my town would vote down some taxes. Every year the school district begs for more money. And these fools just keep rubber stamping the increases. Who is stupid enough to raise their own taxes?? If the people in the district would just vote no, it would force the district to use the money they have more wisely, which is more than enough.

Last year the town voted to increase the school tax once again, after the district pleaded poverty.

And about a month after the budget vote went through, the district superintendent got a SIX PERCENT raise...he was making $186K per year, now he makes close to $200K per year.

It makes you want to bang your head against a wall. Or bang THEIR heads against a wall.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu Feb 22 16:27:21 2018 206.124.19.186) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Yanni. No, wait...he's Chairman of the Bored

Frank Sinatra - Ol' Blue Eyes



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Feb 22 16:13:12 2018 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl - Frank Sinatra



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Feb 22 15:58:27 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Celebrities
Question: What actor/singer was sometimes called 'Chairman of the Board'



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu Feb 22 15:27:06 2018 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Shan Whatever else about him, Ronald Reagan pushed through tax and fiscal policies which broke the back of the Inflationary Recession of the 70s which had resisted all previous "remedies" and paved the way for the dot.com surge of 2 decades later. Also, he reaccelerated the Cold War. This pushed the Soviets into both a military build-up they couldn't sustain economically and into economic reforms to retain the loyalty of their populations which eventually led to demands for political opportunity as well. Also, his constant war of words left the Soviets and other regimes friendly to them, such a s the Sandinistas, off balance, w aiting for a first strike which was never going to come anyway, which also destabilized them



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Feb 22 15:26:50 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Thursday, February 22nd 2018 C.E.

We have NINE (9) Birthdays!


baby Hobgob (Rainbow's childe)
Basia
Buffy2279
Dagney Kerr*
Jenkins
Mid12AM
Polly
Thy Slayer
Watchers_Council_Member

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to baby Hobgob, Basia, Buffy2279, Dagney Kerr, Jenkins, Mid12AM, Polly, Thy Slayer, Watchers Council Member!



Captain was looking for a pilot. I found a husband. Seemed to work out. Zoe, 'Bushwhacked''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Feb 22 14:44:52 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay catriona!


Happy CD Thursday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Feb 22 13:06:09 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
white wings--I forgot,
Cadbury egg season is upon us :)

As for Johnny, when he showed up
in his first outfit of the
Olympics my youngest daughter
thought he looked like one of the
ruling class of the Hunger
Games
;) Apparently for that
last outfit he switched to the
ruling class of Victoria :0


Belated Yay! Leather Jacket!



Happy Belated Birthday Princess
of Darkness
and Tigger!


Yay! Catriona!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Feb 22 12:29:45 2018 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for catriona!

yay catriona!


Happy CD Thursday!



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Shan says:
(Thu Feb 22 08:19:33 2018 1.43.39.41) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu Feb 22 08:23:31 2018
wolfguard et al

For context for those of you not
in the know, Tony Abbott is one
of the most useless politicians
and Prime Ministers Australia
ever produced.

After stumbling into the top job
after all the better candidates
knocked each other out (sound
familiar?), he proceeded to have
no good ideas (sound familiar?)
antagonise a large segment of the
population including his nominal
supporters (sound familiar?)
become a national embarrassment
(sound familiar?) say the most
absurd nonsensical things (sound
familiar) totally fail at even
the basic tenets of governance
(sound familiar) and then get
thrown out of the top job by his
own party - we can do that - before even 2 years
were up (which is unheard
of on the conservative side of
politics here - he was just
that bad).

PS:

Where does GW Bush rate on worst presidents ever? I still think Trump
(greater than symbol) GW
on account of number of major wars started (and then prosecuted badly and
effectively still going) by Trump = 0 to GW = 2.

In fact, has there even been a passable Republican president since
Eisenhower?



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white wings says:
(Thu Feb 22 04:05:51 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Leather Jacket!

Happy Birthday Drusilla's Pet, Dust'em, FilmBuff, hanncoll, Kat, Killer, Mel, Melissa, Princess of Darkness, SecondHandCarSpiv, and Tigger!

OldManFan - Get some rest. We enjoyed the Sour Grapes party back at the ranch.

Christopher Marlowe - I don't think Buffy would be on pills, unless her slayer strength weakens with age. Slayers don't usually live very long, so there probably aren't a lot of statistics on that subject.

About democracy, Churchill said "Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time." It is highly possible you are not a stranger to the saying, but I find amusement in repeating it. *g*

I suspect that when it comes down to whom to trust, it's wiser to trust none of the sides entirely. But then you do have the problem that you might not live long enough to find the information necessary to come to a conclusion that satisfies you. Even more awful, you could be wrong. Maybe not about water, but in how you push societal buttons to achieve a desired result. In fact, no one may know what they are doing. It's like an exercise in herding cats - or chaos. A willingness to change course and the wisdom to know when to do it are required, but then others have to join you.

This useless, conclusion free philosophy is posted from an excess of Cadbury's Creme Eggs, and I think I need to go to bed. *g*



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Feb 22 02:51:47 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Maveric In keeping with my abject stupidity, I chose to trust my councilwoman and mayor on this issue, rather than a right-wing groups.



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Maverick says:
(Thu Feb 22 02:42:17 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe: I don't understand your local water rate thing. Did you read the "Vote No" reasoning? It looks like they voted "no" NOT because they rejected the Rate Hike, BUT because they rejected the Proposed Change in how the rates will henceforth be set, AND, more importantly, they rejected the Shenanigans that have been played in the past and they "demanded" an audited accounting of Water Dept money.


R.I.P. Billy Graham


Maverick


White Room




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wolfguard says:
(Thu Feb 22 02:36:29 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Drats. Minor emergency. Will likely be offline rest of the night. Will try to
read link tomorrow. :(

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Feb 22 01:40:54 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Interesting you should bring up Russia. I was just reading some of a story in Wired.com about how Russian troll farms gamed Facebook.

Facebook and Russia



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Feb 22 01:29:42 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
On today's Smerconish program he spoke with another person on the/one of the
latest polls ranking US presidents from best to worst. A few notes ...

- Presidential historians were polled.

- Participants did not use a common framework. Base your rankings on your
based on your studies of the presidents.

- The historians were categorized by political affiliation - Democrat,
Independent, and Republican (The guest said there wasn't much difference
between the groups' rankings. The Democrats put Trump at the bottom of the
list while the Republicans put him 4th from the bottom1)

Top 5

1) Lincoln, 2) Washington, 3) FDR, 4) Theodore Roosevelt, 5) Thomas
Jefferson

6-10 were all postwar (WWII) presidents. Obama moved from 18th on the last
poll to 8th on this poll.


Bottom (Not in order)

Andrew Johnson (Lincoln's VP who became president and was impeached)
William Harrison (Died of pneumonia 31 days into office)
Donald Trump

Rock Bottom: James Buchanon

Why? He did little, if anything, to prevent the civil war. More
specifically, he's faulted with not finding or making the compromises needed
to keep the Union together. I find this analysis delightful, because many
have criticized John Kelley, Trump's chief-of-staff, for saying the civil
war resulted from ~an inability to compromise~.

1 As I recall, the guest said for himself or that some of the
historians said Trump has three years to change historians' assessment.


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Feb 22 00:21:56 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl,

Oops. *g*


Christopher Marlowe,

Some quotes on politics...

"You cannot an election without a fight." - Tony Abbott

"Things on the whole are much faster in America; people don't 'stand for
election', they 'run for office.' - Jessica Mitford

"A million dollars in the presidential election is a spit in the ocean. It's
not a lot of money.' - Kenneth Langore1

"After one election comes many more." - Mike Gallagher


1 Today on "The Press Pool", host Julie Mason was talking with
FOX contributor Brian Jones. He reported the Russians spent the following
amounts of money in the following states during the 2016 primaries:

Pennsylvania: ~$300

Michigan: ~$800

Wisconsin: Just over $1,900


Either Jones or the journalist following him said Trump has simply decided
not to give any ground on the Russia issue on the same principle that
Planned Parenthood holds on abortion or the NRA holds on the 2nd Amendment:
any compromise will be seen as a weakness to exploit for more.



WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Feb 21 23:42:20 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What power did Bethany have in the episode 'Untouched'?
Answer; telekinesis



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Feb 21 22:19:07 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard One of the many hazard of a democracy is when the 'other' side speaks. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Feb 21 22:16:59 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

When a problem arises in the future that can be traced back to work not done for lack of money, then those who voted 'nay' should be last in line for water. *g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Feb 21 20:03:06 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Very low turnout yesterday, not terribly surprising. But 59% of the people voted down the water rate hikes. That will make it more difficult for the city to raise them, they can still do it.



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wolfgurd says:
(Wed Feb 21 19:38:01 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Drive-By

Trivia Girl,

She was shocking!


Christopher Marlowe,

Experienced some problems connecting to serves last night, but if they do not
return with the dark, *g*, have some stuff on water, economics, and politics.


WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Feb 21 16:05:48 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What power did Bethany have in the episode 'Untouched'?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Feb 21 15:21:37 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Wednesday, February 21st 2018 C.E.

We have ELEVEN (11) Birthdays!


Drusilla's Pet
Dust'em
FilmBuff
hanncoll
Kat
Killer
Mel
Melissa
Princess of Darkness
SecondHandCarSpiv
Tigger

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Drusilla's Pet, Dust'em, FilmBuff, hanncoll, Kat, Killer, Mel, Melissa, Princess of Darkness, SecondHandCarSpiv, Tigger!



I got stupid. The money was too good. Jayne, 'Objects In Space''''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Feb 21 14:37:19 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay leather jacket!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

I would think Xander or Buffy does. I can't see any of the others relying on pills. I think Both Xander and Buffy would have physically suffered the most, so they would turn to pills to keep function. Grim, but possible.

Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Feb 21 14:20:39 2018 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for leather jacket!

yay leather jacket!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

the sunnydale pharmacy - better living through chemistry

at this point in their lives, which scooby takes the most pills?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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OldManFan says:
(Wed Feb 21 14:11:31 2018 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
The 'Yay' is coming... I blame jet lag.

OMF



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Shan says:
(Wed Feb 21 06:50:19 2018 114.75.89.229) [Edit/Delete]
Just been looking back at a few
clips of the show. Looks like I
might finally be over it. Well, it
was a good 21 year run.

On the other hand, it was
clips from Season 7 ...



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white wings says:
(Wed Feb 21 06:34:53 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Allyson!

Happy Birthday ASH, Dr. StrangePants, Li'lSprout, weeping willow, Lothar, and whitedove!

Christopher Marlowe - Digging your car out and taking a half-mile hike in the stuff you had to dig your car out of? I salute your dedication!

lostinamerica - LOL! Hot flashes made us stronger, just as wearing dresses in icy weather did? I'm not sure it's worth the suffering, but it makes for a story to tell. *g*

What in the h-e-double hockey sticks was Johnny wearing tonight? Not the gold collar thing. The top. All black, high necked, long sleeved taffeta looking stuff covered with black chiffon? Was he seeking the look of a middle-aged Victorian in mourning who wanted to be fashionable? If that was related to the #MeToo movement, it's time for the movement to be cancelled. Tara definitely won the night on pretty outfits.

I did like the exchange between Johnny and the other talking head over the headpiece of one of the skaters from Kazakhstan that went something like:
Johnny: "I need that headpiece"
Other: "I didn't think about that. She wears it even in practice."
Johnny: "As she should".



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Feb 21 03:16:03 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Water is a particularly hot topic here. With the Keystone Pipeline issues, possible mining at a local creek and this issue. Water is definitely a forefront in this area, particularly with Native Americans. A well-known local phrase is Mni Waconi, 'water is life'



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Feb 21 02:36:23 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

There's an old survival saying used to prioritize actions:

A person can live three minutes without oxygen, three days without water,
three weeks without food. Water is more critical than oil, yet it doesn't
always get much national attention. A few days ago I saw a list of 10 or 15
cities that might run out of water in the near future. Capetown, South Africa
seems to be in very dire straits. The procurement, treatment, distribution,
and allocation of water is a key measure of a government's performance (even
if some or all of these functions are handled by private industry).

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Feb 21 02:25:00 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed Feb 21 02:27:24 2018
wolfguard The mundane topic of water rates. A group objects to water rate hikes and got enough signatures to get on the ballot.

Vote Yes

I am trying to find the Vote No group.

ETA

Vote No



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Feb 21 00:18:33 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

What was the special issue?

WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Feb 21 00:11:13 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: What did Joyce hit Spike with in 'School Hard'?
Answer: Axe

Trivia Axe Men: notsoShygirl, wolfguard!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Feb 20 23:30:54 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Slow Day! I had a strenuous day. Hiking the half-mile distance to the local polling place to vote on a special issue. And even more exercise in digging my car out of my own parking spot!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Feb 20 22:20:05 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl,

A Collins Tool Seagrave Pickhead Axe


WG



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Feb 20 16:27:55 2018 206.124.19.175) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
A fire axe



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Feb 20 15:44:47 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: What did Joyce hit Spike with in 'School Hard'?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Feb 20 15:15:28 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Tuesday, February 20th 2018 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


Anthony Stewart Head as Giles
Dr.StrangePants
Li'lSprout (CharlieX & LilTree's childe)
weeping willow
Lothar
whitedove

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to ASH, Dr. StrangePants, Li'lSprout, weeping willow, Lothar, whitedove!



Big stop just to renew your license to companion. Can I use companion as a verb?
Wash, 'Ariel''''


to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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YayoftheDay says:
(Tue Feb 20 14:44:09 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for Allyson

yay Allyson!

todays deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

Sunnydale's Yoga Society - Now introducing Sacrificial Goat Yoga!

What would be the best pets for the Scooby gang?

Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Feb 20 13:26:51 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
white wings--I guess we were
prepared, and really had to be--I
could make it in hot, stuffy hotel
room but my husband could not--must
be the hot flashes ;)


Belated Yay! Closet Buffyholic!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Feb 20 05:02:15 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

I've enjoyed it. We finished the first season, but could not begin second
season at the beginning. TPTB kept taking us to the 7th episode of second
season. So we watched it. *g*

I have a Kakistos story to tell in a bit.

Remember Kakistos?


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Feb 20 04:56:42 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard How are you liking Victora? Most of my tv watching has been the Olympics. Sometimes there is quite a bit of drama there. *g*



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white wings says:
(Tue Feb 20 04:49:43 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick - Thank you for the link. I actually have that board saved, doubtless from following your links before, but I find that once I've saved these things, I need a firm reminder to go back and look at them.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Feb 20 03:35:44 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Sometimes direct, but then I've been watching Victoria on Masterpiece
Theatre. *g* Also watching second season Riverdale.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Feb 20 03:13:19 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard There is more! I saw the part of the panel with reps from print/tv news media groups. The Brits are quite direct!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Feb 20 03:03:53 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Tue Feb 20 03:04:13 2018
Christopher Marlowe,

I watched a little over twenty minutes of that. It was ... bracing. *g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Feb 20 01:34:40 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I was watching some of c-span Sunday, they were airing a the British Committee hearings on 'fake news' I haven't watched all of it, but what I saw was pretty interesting.

British Committee on 'fake news'



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Feb 20 00:58:22 2018 108.4.137.76) [Edit/Delete]
Shoot. I missed all the old gang stopping by.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Feb 20 00:15:21 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits,
Winter Edition

Category: The Cold Stuff!
Question: What is the largest iceberg in the world?
Answer: Iceberg B-15

notsoShyGirl is right as well as RIGHT!



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Maverick says:
(Mon Feb 19 22:28:54 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: B-15. Bingo! Often used as some kind of indication of Global Warming as it "calved" from the Ross Island Ice Shelf. Not disclosed, however, is that Ross Island, Antarctica, is home to an active volcano at Mt. Erebus. The volcano at Mt. Erebus contains a perpetual molten lava lake, so there is a heat source in the area which might have "helped" to melt loose B-15. BTW, when it did calve, I remember reading at the time, the ocean did not rise as it was already being supported by the water.


Birthday Happies to Mircalla


Mircalla is Maverick Fanfic Recommender #6, in Good Standing


Kessie: I spent some time in 1968-69 in Ulm and Kaiserslautern and Grafenwoehr as part of the U.S. Army (expeditionary forces, we liked to call ourselves.) I loved it there. The exchange rate at the time was 4 Marks for 1 U.S. Dollar and a beer cost 1 Mark, so, believe me, many German beers were drunk. The people were polite and friendly. I have good memories.


white wings: Here is a link to an old Bronze page with your name on it. Either by going to the days of the week links at the top or just going to the bottom of each page and clicking on "Previous Posts," I think you can read a whole week's worth (including 4 times a day Board turnovers) of posts.


Maverick


Nights In White Satin




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white wings says:
(Mon Feb 19 21:19:58 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Closet Buffyholic!

Happy Birthday kenneth, Mircalla, Ozman, Reyna, and Snp2xo!

lostinamerica - I cannot explain why we wanted to shoot skeet that day. It was a bit over 40 years ago. Something to do with the clubs? The challenge of shooting in a wind which no one was very equal to? I do know that we had not thought about the logistics of glasses, snow, and fogging, not to mention snow falling and melting on the nice stocks, and the metal receivers and down the barrels, since we shot double-barreled guns that were broken open in between shooting. There was some pretty thorough cleaning after that episode. I don't have any memory of shooting in heavy snow ever again. Maybe we learned our lesson. *g*

The cozy scene of tea, and being curled up with a book, sure sounds better to me now.

lostinamerica(2) *chokes with laughter at thought of Tara and Johnny blinding the cameras*

Air conditioning is not a bad thing to want in a hotel. I went to a wedding in Paris around the first of May years and years ago, and the hotel was not air conditioned. They had a heat wave, and I can tell you it was pretty warm in the rooms. Even in Colorado, even if you don't have heat waves, you could have traffic noise or exhaust fumes on a street and want to close a window. And sometimes it just feels safer to have windows to lock, depending on the construction. But I can relate to the fleece. *g*



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Feb 19 16:28:56 2018 206.124.19.186) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Cordelia's heart? Or...

Iceberg B-15 was the world's largest recorded iceberg. It measured around 295 kilometres (183 mi) long and 37 kilometres (23 mi) wide, with a surface area of 11,000 square kilometres (4,200 sq mi) larger than the whole island of Jamaica. Calved from the Ross Ice Shelf of Antarctica in March 2000, Iceberg B-15 broke up into smaller icebergs, the largest of which was named Iceberg B-15A. In 2003, B-15A drifted away from Ross Island into the Ross Sea and headed north, eventually breaking up into several smaller icebergs in October 2005.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Feb 19 16:13:37 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuits,
Winter Edition

Category: The Cold Stuff!
Question: What is the largest
iceberg in the world?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Feb 19 15:09:57 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Monday, February 19th 2018 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


kenneth
Mircalla
Ozman
Reyna
Snp2xo

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to kenneth, Mircalla, Ozman, Reyna, Snp2xo!



I'm Xander: I do have Spaghetti-os. Set 'em on top of the dryer and you're a fluff cycle away from lukewarm goodness. Riley: I, uh, had dryer-food for lunch. 'The Replacement''''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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YayoftheDay says:
(Mon Feb 19 14:40:49 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for closet buffyholic!

yay closet buffyholic!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Mon Feb 19 13:06:07 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
white wings--Why in the
world would you want to shoot
skeet in THAT kind of weather?

*takes a look outside, shivers,
and promptly fixes a nice cup of
tea. She is curled up on the
couch with a book when the skeet
shooters drag themselves in,
windswept and half frozen, shakes
her head at the craziness of it
all and resumes reading*



white wings (2)--I thank God
Tara isn't competing with Johnny
fashionwise, I don't know how the
TV cameras would handle the glare.


Kessie--I have to laugh
that we bothered to find a hotel
in Munich with air conditioning,
figuring it was the southernmost
city and it was August, and ended
up wearing fleece coats and long
pants :)

I would love to go back to Germany
again, maybe to Freiburg--our
youngest son did a summer there at
university and took a beautiful
hike in part of the Alps, maybe he
went down to Basel, Switzerland
and did it there, it's nearby?
The pictures are breathtaking :)



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white wings says:
(Mon Feb 19 05:08:43 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Ebdim9th - At least you made it to the board! I think there's still some whine around - it may be behind the bar.

How's the weather where you are?



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Ebdim9th says:
(Mon Feb 19 04:41:09 2018 174.235.140.24) [Edit/Delete]
Ackk! I missed the party!



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white wings says:
(Mon Feb 19 04:39:17 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
lostinamerica - Johnny had his best pompadour of the games tonight. Prettiest arrangement, and I have to confess I like the cyan strands. *g* I liked his jacket, too. I suspect he went out shopping to find that, and I would have done the same had I been there. I couldn't wear the black, but it works for him. A shame Tara didn't have any shiny things on, but no matter how Johnny does the pompadour, he can't compete with her hair.



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white wings says:
(Mon Feb 19 03:11:16 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe - I'm afraid I've been insensitive. I'm finding it
difficult to relate to a winter storm, since it was 71 here today. But I can
absolutely relate to wishing we could have been in LA reliving days of our
(greater) youth. ;-)

I have to say that the party here inspired me to more posting than I've done in
many a long year.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Feb 19 01:55:00 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
white wings I wish I was in LA right now, instead of in the middle of a winter storm!



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white wings says:
(Mon Feb 19 01:07:27 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Birthday claddagh 4 me, FallenAngel09, Forevere2, Keri, Sordid, Wilo Luvr, and zeno!

Princess of Darkness - Yeah, I know. Life got me by the throat a decade or so ago and took the online wind out of my sails. But I keep coming back a little, and this board doesn't take as much stamina as it once did.

Christopher Marlowe - It was nice.

Kessie - Try peeking in from time to time. I've found that it gets easier.



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Kessie says:
(Sun Feb 18 22:45:53 2018 207.244.66.70) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sun Feb 18 22:48:21 2018
waves at TB, Dogmeat, Kiba Rika, Maverick, K8cr8, Slayed Sould, Princess of Darkness and everyone else I forgot.

lostinamerica I was born in Cologne and mostly work there. Yeah Summer can be pretty cool here as well but sometimes you have heat waves where you have up to 39 Celsius for 2 weeks or so. ( These mainly happen when I have to work in overpacked small rooms haha) But weather has gotten more crazy in general here sadly with crazy heat waves and storms and such. But normally, yes, German weather wouldnt be that extreme.

white wings Thanks maybe I should come here more often ;-)


Happy Birthday to :
claddagh 4 me
FallenAngel09
Forevere2
Keri
Sordid
Wilo luvr
zeno!!!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Feb 18 21:36:28 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Looks like a good time was had by all, both at the PBP and the Sour Grapes party!



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Princess of Darkness says:
(Sun Feb 18 21:12:33 2018 207.244.66.70) [Edit/Delete]
white wings
true. I really miss this board. Stupid adult life. It feels like it was just yesterday that I spend every second on the Bronze.



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white wings says:
(Sun Feb 18 19:22:47 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Princess of Darkness - You are here now. Have some whine made from the finest Sour Grapes. It's just as sour the next day. ;-)

lostinamerica - The seasons are different in Northern Europe. I know that because while peak rose bloom in Central Texas is mid-April-early May, it's June there.

*brrrr* is the way to describe Cleveland winters, even if it is on a Hellmouth. We lived on the snow belt side. I still remember with considerable resentment walking through snow trails on the sidewalks to the bus stop, wearing the *spit*dresses*spit* that girls were required to wear, and having the tops of my snowboots just below the snow line, and wearing red lines on my calves.

I also remember ... it was what shall be called "many" years ago ... I went skeet shooting with my father on a winter's day. For some reason which I do not recall, his club was shooting as guests of a club on the shores of Lake Eerie. This was regarded by all as "fun". It was 10F out, and the heavy snow was blowing sideways. The wind off the lake was blowing the clay pigeons in some very strange trajectories. That was one of the days that I was wearing one of my British "indoor" sweaters to keep warm. It was very odd. One had to wear glasses, but they had to be carried in a pocket until the last minute, because the snow would cover them from one side and steam from one's breath coming up out of the scarf over the nose would fog them on the inside. So one would get on station, pull down the scarf, whip on the glasses, call for the bird as quickly as possible, pray you could track it, and fire, get off station, whip off the glasses, pull up the scarf, lather, rinse, repeat. That day ranked right up there with the mock hunt outside of London on Boxing Day, in the sleet, where I finished with about half an inch of mud covering me. I lasted long enough to rug up the pony and clean tack, but after that I was done. My mother, having wisely lined the car seat, pushed me in the car when she picked me up, pulled me out, sat me down, and pulled off the heavy wool jodhpurs, because I couldn't really move. *g*

Kessie - Welcome back.

IMMORTAL - Good Lord. Nice to see your name on the board!



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IMMORTAL says:
(Sun Feb 18 18:41:13 2018 74.62.55.100) [Edit/Delete]
So that happened...



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Princess of Darkness says:
(Sun Feb 18 18:10:55 2018 207.244.66.70) [Edit/Delete]
Hi everyone,
Can't believe I fell asleep and missed the Sour Grapes party. Guess I'm really getting old. :D



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lostinamerica says:
(Sun Feb 18 13:50:47 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
Welcome back everyone!


Kessie--I've been to Berlin, Cologne and Munich twice, Heidelberg, in
the summer and never had anything resembling summer heat :( I think once it
was kind of early, May maybe, but the other time it was definitely August--you
wouldn't see that type of weather at that time here, in Nashville! Then again,
you are much further north :(


Aurora--Good luck to you! My oldest daughter is working on her PhD,
don't know how she can write that much on one topic, I'm not interested in the
least to attempt it!


TB--*waves back* Now there's a brave soul, able to weather Vegas in the
summer :) I went once in August and remember looking so forward to the evening
so we could sit on a patio somewhere and have a drink and found it was just
dark and hot instead of sunny and hot ;)


white wings--Cleveland? Brrrrrr!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Feb 18 13:49:42 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Sunday, February 18th 2018 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7) Birthdays!


claddagh 4 me
FallenAngel09
Forevere2
Keri
Sordid
Wilo luvr
zeno

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to claddagh 4 me, FallenAngel09, Forevere2, Keri, Sordid, Wilo Luvr, zeno!



There are cockroaches in Mexico big enough to own property. Cordelia, 'Anne'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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Kessie says:
(Sun Feb 18 11:15:35 2018 207.244.66.70) [Edit/Delete]
*peeks in again, back from sleep*

Hi again guys!!! I probably missed a lot..



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white wings says:
(Sun Feb 18 08:06:17 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
*backflit*

wolfguard - 20th Anniversary Reunion PBP
in LA, Sour Grapes posting here.

*flit*



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Feb 18 07:37:07 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
What just happened?

WG



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Carita says:
(Sun Feb 18 07:15:44 2018 72.143.193.64) [Edit/Delete]
Did I miss the auction?

Hi Sita & White Wings



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Adri says:
(Sun Feb 18 07:12:10 2018 98.150.210.7) [Edit/Delete]
Good night and thank you, white wings



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white wings says:
(Sun Feb 18 07:07:55 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Adri - Sigh. *barfs up a snake* Better now? *g*

Aurora - Been there. These things do eventually end. I just assumed you were in the cradle when Buffy first came along. *g*


I fear I must go to bed while I can. Neither the evening nor I are young any more. *waves to all.*



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Adri says:
(Sun Feb 18 06:56:31 2018 98.150.210.7) [Edit/Delete]
white wings!!!!!

*falls over deaded by Sita



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Aurora says:
(Sun Feb 18 06:55:05 2018 208.54.39.242) [Edit/Delete]
Hi Maverick!!!!!

Hi K8Cr8!!!

Tamz - LOL. i know I've gotten so old!!! Kiba
keeps saying that I'm all grown up now. And
thanks :)

White Wings - Yes. Thanks ;) Although you
may want to hold off the congratulations
until its actually finished :s Right now it's....
Well. it's a slow process...



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SitaTheNightGoddess says:
(Sun Feb 18 06:36:23 2018 24.79.36.21) [Edit/Delete]
*runs in the room*

Hi Maverick & Carita

Adri *BAPBAPBAPBAPBAP*

*runs out of the room coughing and
sneezing*



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white wings says:
(Sun Feb 18 06:35:33 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
k8cre8 - Lovely to see you!

Carita - I see what you did there. Sssneaky!! Looks really colorful on an iPhone. Good to see you!

Adri!!! You always count!

Aurora - Working on your thesis? Congratulations!



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Adri says:
(Sun Feb 18 06:31:02 2018 98.150.210.7) [Edit/Delete]
Do I still count if I cant find my SO?



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Tamz says:
(Sun Feb 18 06:27:12 2018 24.47.252.40) [Edit/Delete]
Aurora YOU GO GIRL! So smart! So proud
of you for going so far. youre not a little girl
anymore *sob*

Maverick!!! Hello!!!



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Carita says:
(Sun Feb 18 06:25:17 2018 72.143.193.64) [Edit/Delete]
LOSERS 😊



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k8cre8 says:
(Sun Feb 18 06:23:45 2018 75.171.193.222) [Edit/Delete]
[scrolling] I noticed it was
KAM's yay day. YAY KAM!

And Octoquad's. YAY Octoquad.
RIP friend.


And waves to white wings
and Kessie and
Christopher Marlowe and
Old Man Fan thanks for all
your work to put together the
shindig.



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Maverick says:
(Sun Feb 18 06:08:09 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Mon Feb 19 06:44:26 2018
Ack! We're being inundated by legacy Posters from the Golden Age of Buffy. Such an enthusiastic crowd.


HiYa's to TB, Night Blooming Jasmin, Kessie, SitaTheNightGoddess, Dianne, VT, Dogmeat, Hollyn, Aurora, Dirty Socks, Slayed Soul, Tamz, Willow Worshipper, Kiba Rika, k8cre8, Denise, and Petrona.


Visiting Firemen: I may be as close as we have to a Bronze Archivist. As such I went to such places as the WayBack Machine and lists of Buffy Webpages and collected as much as possible in one spot on MY Website. If you go to Maverick's Home Page and scroll down the page till you run across the word Nostalgia and then take that link you will find yourself on a page with many links to old Bronze stuff, most exciting of which are around 2 complete weeks of postings on the original Bronze, a visit to the forerunner of the Bronze, TVJames's Ultimate TV Buffy Page, and other treasures such as "An Ode to Buffy's Breasts." I hope you guys take advantage of this collection.


SO's to: (alphabetized to be easy to read so to make our English speaking good) abt, Addict No. 1, Adina, Adreenis, Adri, AjO (#20), AKA BECKER, Alex, AleXander, Algerina (#52), Allicat/Nipsy, Alpy (#29), Ms. Alucard, Erika Amato, amystar (#57), ANG, Angela (#43), AngelLover24-7 (#40), Angelic Sweetie, Angle Man, Anne, Anya, Arctic Lurker, Asanti, Aurora, Austin154, Avarice, banana (#8), Lady Bathory, Mrs. Beasley, bec (#17), Beldin, President Blade-The Vampire Hunter, BlueBoy, blueronin (#23), Bri (#46), Bruces Mom, Buffyenta, Buttercup, Chris Beck, Big Al, Big Tony, Blackheart, Boo, Bossy The Cow, Brandi the Slayer, Lt. Colonel Briarcliff, brittany, buffyrat, BUFFYtvsfan (#48), cabin7dad, Candy Kane (#36), Carita, carlycat, CarpeDi, Catriona, Ce'Lisse, chalkdusty, CharlieX, Chelle, chi, Chosen One (#50), Chrissi, Chrissy, Claddagh (#44), clarrie (#54), Cleio, Closet Buffyholic, Comma, Corvus, cosmic, Cosmic Bob, Sophia Crawford, cymarin, DaddyCatALSO, Daphmax, Dark Ivory, Deadboy, DeAn, demonica1313, Denise, Destiny, devil (#12), DGH, Dianne, Dirty Socks, Django (#56), DoBoy, Dogmeat, Doppler99, DowntownApartments, drdan, DReddd, Drizzt, dualslayers, dudley, ebdim9th, Edward, Elly (#51), elusio, english, Evalie, EverDawn (#11), Mr. EverDawn, FASTEDDIE, A Faithful Gypsy, fenric, Figaro (#34), Foot Tapper, Forevrnite (#15), David Fury, GF, gazoo, Genevieve's Lucie, Gennifer, genrefan, Glow Boy, Godeater (#1), golden girl (#28), GothicJossMinion, Graceless Lady, Gray, greeneyes, Gregg, Griffin, Haven, Heaven, Hecate, Hollyn, horizon, HumVee, Isobel, Icelord (a spazzy #37), Pwiddy Widdle Ick, Impaler General, Intoit (#18), Irishrose, Jasmen, Jayne, Jenie TTF, Jennifer Lynn, Jocor, Jonathan H (#39), Jubilee, k8cre8, KAM, Kansas (#49), Kar (#30), Karin, kayti, Kendra, Kenickie, Kessie, Keywe, Kiba Rika, Kiera, kim!, Kramer, KrazyKat, Kristen, kronos, krypticon, kugelmass, *LB* (#3), Labrynth, Laurence, Luv Lux, Manx, Margot le Faye, Leather Jacket, Liberty, Liche, Lil'Tree (#19), lilmissmagik, Lisa, lisa1, littlexander, Little Willow, lostinamerica, Lovely Poet, Lurking Little Feet, Mabb, MaJoR WillowFan, Christopher Marlowe, Masquerade, Malista, Marissa, Matt the Bruins Fan, Artie McDonald, Todd McIntosh, Meg6 (#32), mélanie, Menkhare, Menomegirl, *~Kathryn Merteuil~*, Micaela, Miguel, Mircalla (#6), Missi (#16), Missy, Morella, mudpuppy, Myslayre, nails, Natalie, neonate, nephy, newt, Night Blooming Jasmin, Night Owl, Nirvana 1, Noodles, notsoShyGirl, Nouveau, numba1buffyfan, NuPhalanx (#25), nya, Nyte-eyes, Octoquad, Ojagwers, old dog (#5), Old One, Olivia, 1bufffyfan (#22), orangeade, paksenarrion (#55), Pam (#33), Patches J, PDR, pestilent god, Petrona, Phil PhuD, Pixie, Pnthr44, Poetry Angel (#9), Mrs. Pointy, Polgara, Pooka, princess daria, Princess of Darkness, Jeff Pruitt, ? (#13), Qui-gon Jenn, Jaan Quidam, RD, RJ (#14), Rebecca Lynn (#2), redhead, redruM, Reyna, ripley, ROANNA (#10), Robin TSH, RooCH, RyanH, Sachiel (#38). Safarigirl, StGermain (#21), Samantha (#45), Sanguineus, Sarah's carl, Sara the Brown (#31), SarahNicole (#7), Sarah UK, sassy, The Sci-Fi Bard, Scourge of Europe, Selenay (#53), seniorslayer, Sephiroth, Shade of Bronze, ShadowDancer, Shadowslayer (#27), Shalazar, Shelly, SherBear, shtein, SitaTheNightGoddess, Skittery, Slave2Faith (#47), slay_me (#26), Slayed Soul, slayerdaddy, SlayerNextDoor, sleepy head, SoAnya, Southern Girl (#24), Sparrow, Spiky, Spike, Spike_14, SpikeNip, spikes_luv, SpookyMagoo (#41), Stake, Sultress, SweePer, sweick, Tallulahdahling (#42), Tamz, Tana, TB, TheaterGirl, Thelma and Louise, Thirsty (#35), Thoin, 3 Standard Deviations from the Norm, thy Slayer, tiggy, TMorel, Kestra Troi, umbris, VT, VaBuffyFan, valMichael, Vampire the Buffy Slayer, vampchica, VampSlayer, Vlad the Impaler, WanderLost (#4), weeping willow, Wendy, werewolf123, Whisper2AScream, white wings, Mr. Whyt, Willow Worshipper, Witchy Woman, wolfguard, Xander's Girl, X-Lander, Zeeshan M, Zorander, and all others who will now show up making me feel guilty for overlooking them.

(Mystical numeric codes: the numbers next to the above Poster's names indicate exclusive membership in the Order of Maverick's Fanfic Recommenders, a valiant band of Posters who have girded their loins and will recommend my fanfic even under the most harrowing of circumstances, such as the actual threat of being viciously tickled by someone of the opposite sex. God bless these brave young Posters)

Maverick

My fanfic can be found here: Maverick's Home Page.


Proud HonoUrary Member of Buffy, Eh? There goes THEIR club, eh? Snowshoe Size #10-1/2
Keelhauled on the Shameless Hussy Boat
Slavic (or
perhaps Czech) devotee of SMG
Steve (okay, Urkel, not Buscemi) for Bronze Bouncer
Keeper of all change I find behind the cushions of the Bronze sofa
Official Bronze Notary
Self-confessed Cat Kisser
Spaz Poster # 14 / Certified SpazSpeak Interpreter
Stocker-upper on Cheese ever since Amy Became a Rat
Interested in Becoming Da'an's Companion
My motto:
You're only young once, but, cheer up, you can be immature forever.


Close Your Eyes




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Aurora says:
(Sun Feb 18 05:51:31 2018 208.54.39.242) [Edit/Delete]
Tamz - I'm doing pretty good... For being
buried under my masters thesis! But right
now I'm warm and happy so all is well! How
are you?



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SitaTheNightGoddess says:
(Sun Feb 18 05:26:06 2018 24.79.36.21) [Edit/Delete]
TB: It's GREAT to see you
again! :)

How I know I'm getting old....lol
It's almost 11:30pm on a Saturday
night and I'm going to bed. I
probably could have made it a bit
longer if I wasn't sick but *ugh*
So sick!!!

Have a great night! I'll try to
pop in more often!

XOXO [3 Goodnight Bronzers!

*finishes her drink, hops off her
barstool, stumbles, (no one saw
that!) and exits stage left*



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TB says:
(Sun Feb 18 05:18:21 2018 208.54.4.150) [Edit/Delete]
TAMZ, Sita, DS-its like nothings changed!
OMG. I hope things go well for all of you
soon. Thank you for the good wishes. Im
very happy to finally not have bad drama
going on in my life (like was always on my
LJ :() I missers you guys. E-me if you
wanna chat :)

white wings-thank you hun. I feel loved :)
and I dont have FB either. I miss tons.

*waves at Petrona* *tackleglomps!*

Glad you guys enjoyed the video :) was
awesome of Kiba to do that! :)

Ok back to the table again. :)

-TB



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Tamz says:
(Sun Feb 18 05:13:31 2018 24.47.252.40) [Edit/Delete]
AURORA!!!!!! *tackle* how's you?

Oh I wish my device wasn't as ancient as
me. I can't keep up!
It's so nice to see so many familiar folks!

Hi Dogmeat! Hi Christopher Marlowe!



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k8cre8 says:
(Sun Feb 18 05:07:51 2018 75.171.193.222) [Edit/Delete]
Thanks Kiba for the video. Good to
see everyone.



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Aurora says:
(Sun Feb 18 05:06:55 2018 208.54.39.242) [Edit/Delete]
Hi everyone! Hollyn was super nice to
include me in her posts while my phone
was charging... We are having a fantastic
time - but we miss you all horribly!

Petrona - you are hardly one to talk :p

Dirty Socks - I miss you terribly! Sending bi
hugs your way!!!!!

Tamz - HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Feb 18 04:59:13 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
HALLO 20TH ANNIVERSARY PBPers!!!



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Petrona says:
(Sun Feb 18 04:54:22 2018 24.251.26.110) [Edit/Delete]
The live video was great. Thanks for
making that happen. Loved seeing all your
faces! Dont you people age?



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white wings says:
(Sun Feb 18 04:53:32 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Dirty Socks - Flannel has great virtues, but I'm finding the synthetic fleece works very well, at least down here. I don't have to endure long cold spells, so I'm not the most expert.


Live video? *sigh* I miss so much not being on FB. Ah well.



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SitaTheNightGoddess says:
(Sun Feb 18 04:46:53 2018 24.79.36.21) [Edit/Delete]
TB: Doing much better now. I've had some trials the last....some
amount of time. But I think things are starting to turn around.

Dirty Socks: *BAP* for old times sake haha

LOVED THE LIVE VIDEO FROM TEH PARTY!

Thanks Kiba!



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Dirty Socks says:
(Sun Feb 18 04:41:43 2018 216.121.153.140) [Edit/Delete]
Kiba Rika Soak up all the happy-
go-lucky Buffy Juju for the upcoming related
project. Also WE LOVE YOU, TOO!!

TB Oh, you know, the usual. Trying
to figure out my life, trying to figure out how
to turn creative pursuits into something that
could provide income, trying to retain what
little sanity I have left. ROFL!! I will hang
onto that e-addy.

white wings This time of year Im all
about flannel, but thats the Canada talking.
=)

(If anyone wants to track me down on
Facebook, use the e-addy above.)



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Tamz says:
(Sun Feb 18 04:29:11 2018 24.47.252.40) [Edit/Delete]
TB: oh it's been a crazy few years.
Definitely not anything I'd go on about here,
or anywhere really, but I'm alive. It's so
good to see you! Glad things are good for
you!!!! It's been too long.



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white wings says:
(Sun Feb 18 04:23:27 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Sita the Night Goddess - Military? Tanks? Oh, he'll definitely be blowing stuff up. I hope he has lots of fun and does in many HSTs (metaphorically speaking). *g*

Dirty Socks - Likewise. I'm fond of the fleece.

Dogmeat - *waves*

Dianne - *waves*

Denise - *waves*

Night Blooming Jasmine - Night! Many soft pillows for you!

Kiba Rika - *waves*

TB - Yup, you are remembered! I tried to keep stuff on external drives, then I had lots of drives, then I moved and couldn't remember what was where, and then I started using a cloud service and don't lose stuff nearly as often. I'm glad that Life worked out so well for you.



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TB says:
(Sun Feb 18 04:21:57 2018 208.54.4.150) [Edit/Delete]
Sita-OMG LOSERS (Im too lazy for the
periods). I remember those! Ty King and I
would have words when he would call me
Tuberculosis just to make me mad. But oh
no posting limits! Those were the days :)

TAMZ, Sita, DS-how are you peeps? Been
forever!

Ok back to the table. Im so bad.

-TB



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TB says:
(Sun Feb 18 04:13:48 2018 208.54.4.150) [Edit/Delete]
TAMZ-Im good :) I got married 6 yrs ago
and dropped off the internet 11 yrs ago
when we started dating basically. I moved
to LV and and am still there at Venetian (12
yrs in July baby) and its been forever since
Ive been here too. Its fun seeing all the old
faces (live and on the net)

Dirty Socks-*muah* I dont have FB but my
email is the same. Just click on my name.

whitewings-OMG Im in that old siggie!! My
siggie is hiding on my external back in LV. I
only remember three things from it. Oh and
that I had DevoTBs. I cant even remember
my famlet tree. Im so bad.

If any of you are ever in Vegas look me up.
Email is in my name and yes its the same
all these years later. Not as obsessed with
the boy but I still girlcrush on him now and
again :) I got my own geek in glasses so Im
a happy bear :)

I should go back to chatting at the table. So
good to see all of you. I apologize for
forgetting anyone. When I used to post on
my laptop I had two windows open or a
notepad so I didnt forget responses and
shoutouts. Cant do that on my iPhone
*pout*.

-TB



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SitaTheNightGoddess says:
(Sun Feb 18 04:12:50 2018 24.79.36.21) [Edit/Delete]
L.O.S.E.R.S forever baby!

Kiba Rika: Heya!



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Kiba Rika says:
(Sun Feb 18 04:09:35 2018 174.210.11.174) [Edit/Delete]
Hey party people!

I love y'all so much and am getting
a little weepy seeing you post.

Especially Dirty Socks!



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Night Blooming Jasmine says:
(Sun Feb 18 04:05:47 2018 172.58.175.101|172.58.172.140) [Edit/Delete]
white wings - I do see the time clock of the Bronze is significantly different
than I remember. Gives a whole new time slot to the L.O.S.E.R.S.

*waves* at Hollyn, Aurora, VT, Slayed Soul, Dianne and all the rest of the left
coast deprived.

To those enjoying the sparklie LA air, enjoy yourselves. I can't wait to see the photos.

Miss you!

--NBJ
*shuffles off to bed* It's been a long day. No sour grapes for me just a fluffy pillow.



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Hollyn says:
(Sun Feb 18 04:02:30 2018 174.211.5.38) [Edit/Delete]
Hi5 to Kiba achieved, Dirty
Socks.

Tralfy says hello as well.

~Hollyn & Aurora



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Dogmeat says:
(Sun Feb 18 03:57:41 2018 96.239.36.227) [Edit/Delete]
hmmmmmm :)



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Dirty Socks says:
(Sun Feb 18 03:53:38 2018 216.121.153.140) [Edit/Delete]
white wings While I would much rather be there, at least this way I can be social and
remain in my pyjamas.

TB Giiiiirl! Its been WAY too way too long! Hope everything is going swimmingly for you.
Track
me down on Fbook or some such. =D

Aurora I *smoooosh* you. Hollyn too.

Someone hug or high five Kiba Rika for me, whichever is most agreeable to her.

(Any illustrators out there want to maybe collab on some books Ive written? E-mail above!)



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Tamz says:
(Sun Feb 18 03:52:17 2018 24.47.252.40) [Edit/Delete]
Hey White Wings!

Willow Worshipper: nope I kinda did away
with cell phones. I'm an old fart



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SitaTheNightGoddess says:
(Sun Feb 18 03:50:32 2018 24.79.36.21) [Edit/Delete]
white wings: He's joining the military and he wants to drive tanks....Very cool to see the old siggy! I wish I
knew where a copy of mine was!

Dirty Socks: Don't get too close! I'm super sick. lol

TB: Hey you!! Hope all is well!

Slayed Soul: Hey lovely friend! *hugs*



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Willow Worshipper says:
(Sun Feb 18 03:47:24 2018 174.197.11.251) [Edit/Delete]
Tamz - much love to you as well. I
can always say hi on the FB, but do
you still have the same number?



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white wings says:
(Sun Feb 18 03:43:38 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Tamz - Hey stranger!

I'll drop the old siggy, such as it was, so people can see some names:

SOs to 4paws, abt, Adri, Agent Cooper, AKA Becker, Allyson, amorphia, amystar, AndeeH, android, Angel101, AngelRachel, Antipodean, Aramina, Arana, Austin154, Aurora, banana, Beldin, boo, Bossy the Cow, BritSlayer, BuBBle, Bufidiot, BuffyAddiction, BuffyGuy, buffyrat, BurningBabyFish, Cabin7dad, captuniv (formerly X-Lander), CarpeDi, Cashmere, catmint, Catriona, Catherine, cats, CaughtntheQuiet, chalkdusty, Chrysanthemum, Claris, Clattering, Cleio, Closet Buffyholic, chaos813, Christopher Marlowe, Comma, Comteacher, CordyCat, Corvus, CosmicBob, Dachelle, DaddyCatALSO, devil, Daps, Dao Jones, DarkLady, dayzee, Del, Denise, Dianne, Dirty Socks, Dogmeat, drama_queenie, drunkenfairy, ducky, dudley, Dunlin, eirefaerie, el, elreyn24, elusio, Erestor, ergo sum, Evalie, EverDawn, faithx5, FASTEDDIE, ferol, Foot Tapper, freaking_amazing_witch, friday, garnet, gazoo, Genevieve's Lucy, Gileslover, Ginger, Glow Boy, Goddess@Home, Gothic Avenger, GothicJossMinion, greeneyes, halfrek, helygen, HiddenSky, Hollyn, Holy Water, horizon, HumVee, Icelord, idream, Irene Adler, Irishrose, Jaan Quidam, janni, Jeannie TTF, Jipsy Girl, Jocasta, k8cre8, KAM, Kaymyth, Kessie, Keywe, Kiba Rika, Kristen, Labrynth, Lady Wolfsbane, Lazy Girl, Leather Jacket, LenS, LilBufBuf, Lil Pia, Lilu, little wiggins, Little Willow, littlexander, Lord Mysty Mage, lostinamerica, lucille, Malista, Marlene, Margot, Maverick, Menomegirl, Mia, miller's angel, Mircalla, Monique, moppety, Morella, Mrs.Beasley, Mr. Whyt, Myslayre, Muffy the Vampire Annoyer, Narrator, neonate, newfan, newt, Niblet, Night Blooming Jasmine, notsoShyGirl, numba1buffyfan, Oblivia, Ojagwers, Old One, OldManFan, Ophelia's twin, OzLady, paksenarrion , Petrona, Princess of Darkness, Q, Raithen, Red Crayon, Reyna, Robyn TSH, roja, RoseBud, RTBS, sanj, Safarigirl, Sapphire, Sarah's Carl, SarahNicole, scram, seniorslayer, shadoed, ShadowQuest, singsinthecar, Sita the Night Goddess, Skittery, Slayed Soul, slayerdaddy, Slayergrl99,SlayerSteph, Slave2Faith, Smidge, SpookyMagoo, Starr, StGermain, Stitch, strangestgirl, sunlit5, *Sunburst*, superrmk, SusieQ, TadpolePhobic, TB, Tamz, Tana, Taster's Choice, TexasWook, The Host, The Partyman, Thoin, tiggy3323, The Narnian, the red hood, tralfamadore2001, trouble, Trinity, twilight, valMichael, VampSlayer, Vanessa, violet, VT, Watcher's Pet, weebeasties, Witch4ever, Whim, wiccachick, Willowhead, Willow Worshipper, wolfguard, Xanderella, XanFan32, XG, Y_slaybelle, Yummy, Zeus



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Denise says:
(Sun Feb 18 03:42:46 2018 166.137.252.49) [Edit/Delete]
*peeks in*



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Hollyn says:
(Sun Feb 18 03:42:17 2018 174.211.5.38) [Edit/Delete]
White wings: we can hold
conversations across a dinner
table. So quieter.

Greetings to Dirty Socks from
Aurora

~Hollyn & Aurora



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Tamz says:
(Sun Feb 18 03:38:54 2018 24.47.252.40) [Edit/Delete]
OMG TB *running tackle hugs* how are
you?

Willow Worshipper *mwah!*

So long since I've been in here. Crazy!



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TB says:
(Sun Feb 18 03:35:28 2018 208.54.4.150) [Edit/Delete]
OMG TAMZ!!!! *running tacklehug* and
Willow Worshipper and Witch4ever! Hi
guys :)

I missers all of you! This is what happens
when you drop off the internet for 10 years.
You dont talk to people again for ages!

I wish you all were here! And I see I missed
shoutouts to lostiamerica, Maverick, and
VT. Hi!

-TB
Siggie is around somewhere



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Willow Worshipper says:
(Sun Feb 18 03:29:25 2018 174.197.11.251) [Edit/Delete]
Hey Tamz! Great to see ya!

Thanks whitewings!



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white wings says:
(Sun Feb 18 03:26:20 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Kessie - Night! Don't let the bedbugs bite! It was great to see you. You can always come back. There's a light in the window, you know.

Hollyn, Aurora - We wish we were there too. *g* Is it a bit quieter than in days of yore (when I wore earplugs because I was old back then)?

VT - Thanks for the list of people to envy. ;-) HI! To all of y'all.

Willow Worshipper - Have a sour grape and some whine. Lots of it around here. *g*



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Tamz says:
(Sun Feb 18 03:25:24 2018 24.47.252.40) [Edit/Delete]
Uh oh!
Who is this person?

Oh yeah...it's just me!

HELLO STRANGERS! It's been awhile!



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Willow Worshipper says:
(Sun Feb 18 03:20:28 2018 174.197.11.251) [Edit/Delete]
Hey all!

Wish witch4ever and I were there at
the party with all of you!

Have a great time!!



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TB says:
(Sun Feb 18 03:19:48 2018 208.54.4.150) [Edit/Delete]
Hello peeps! *wavies* I see Sita, Slayed
Soul, white wings, Kessie, Christopher
Marlowe, wolfguard, and OMG Dirty Socks!
*tackleglomps* sorry if I forgot anyone else
my memory is terrible these days. Im here
at the table with AKABECKER, Kiba Rika,
Aurora, Hollyn, Tralf, OzLady, Zeus, Phred,
& Queen of Shemaka. Hope yall are
enjoying the Sour Grapes party. We miss
you!

Oh and I should yay greeneyes since I
forgot to before! Also happy bday to bday
peeps. Posting on the phone is tough!

Anyways Ill pop in again later if this goes
thru. Im trying off WiFi.

TB
-see below for the bit of siggie I remember
:)



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Hollyn says:
(Sun Feb 18 03:15:41 2018 174.211.5.38) [Edit/Delete]
Hey white wings.

Sending greetings from the
party.

We wish you were all here!!!!!
SERIOUSLY.

~Hollyn & Aurora



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Dirty Socks says:
(Sun Feb 18 03:14:03 2018 216.121.153.140) [Edit/Delete]
Sita *tackle-glomps*



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Kessie says:
(Sun Feb 18 03:13:03 2018 207.244.66.70) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sun Feb 18 03:20:05 2018
Ugh its 4 now here and I at least need to sleep a little bit- will be back later. Stupid timezones. Have fun guys.. save me some chocolate



Slayed Soul: & Holly & Aurora: hey there !

Eta:

white wings Yes London is similar. Esp with the rain.
Cleveland? Well of course its warmer. Must be the hellmouth. hehe

VT Yeah I remember reading that on Facebook but so far it really doesnt look like it. Sitting around you say? Awww we really need to invent beaming so we could make them go crazy a little bit


Anyway...

Ill go "Poof" now ...



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white wings says:
(Sun Feb 18 03:12:27 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Sita the Night Goddess - {{{healing vibes}}} If you raised your son on Buffy, do keep him away from explosives. ;-)

Dirty Socks - Howdy! Yep, we're just drowning our woes while people are off having fun in person in LA. *g*

Kessie - I know the bone-chilling cold. I lived in London in the mid-sixties, before the concept of central heat was well known there. When we moved to Cleveland, I found that the sweaters that I wore indoors every day in London were best suited for wearing outside in 10F in blizzards (with heavy jackets of course).

Slayed Soul - A lot of time!

Hollyn, Aurora - Good to see you!

VT - They may not be having their brains turned to goo by a live band. *g* Possibly there are no nekkid shenanigans with Frank the cobra from S5.



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VT says:
(Sun Feb 18 03:06:35 2018 174.88.105.29) [Edit/Delete]
White Wings yeah up might be
pushing it for me as well. heh

Slayed Soul You!!!

Kessie Someone was supposed
to live stream but notta. I have an image
of them all sitting around a table with
low easy listening music going drinking
fruity virgin cocktails being lame
because no one me is
there to get everyone crazy hee hee
How's them grapes ? LMAO

VT
Yup still an obnoxious @$$



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Feb 18 03:06:22 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Finally home. I went to see Black Panther. Excellent movie, more thoughtful than the usual Marvel movies, but still some cool action. I more or less knew how the movie was going to end up, so that made a smidge less thrilling.



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VT says:
(Sun Feb 18 02:49:33 2018 174.88.105.29) [Edit/Delete]
I'm still here and I'm going to try to jump all
into some convos in a few. I just spent a
hour looking through years of PBP pics and
wow.. my memory is crap! heh

Dianne !!!!



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Hollyn says:
(Sun Feb 18 02:49:24 2018 174.210.2.44) [Edit/Delete]
Hey everyone!

~Hollyn & Aurora



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Slayed Soul says:
(Sun Feb 18 02:39:53 2018 74.58.143.6) [Edit/Delete]
Slayed Soul: Ahhh the
memories... The countless hours
spent in this joint entertaining an
addiction to a creative
masterpiece... Some of you have
become friends for life. And it's
nothing to be taken lightly. Love
you all!



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Kessie says:
(Sun Feb 18 02:35:10 2018 207.244.66.70) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sun Feb 18 02:35:40 2018
SitaTheNightGoddess: Ah thats good then you can rest. Id offer you some Sage-Cherry bonbons if you were close but since you are so far away I can only give you virtual ones.



white wings: In the Alps you do but I live close to Dsseldorf which isnt that high up and here its mostly rainy icky like I call it. But you are right with the seeps into the bones cold. Esp if its windy like it was in the last few days.

Oh they should be because its not that uncommon but somehow Deutsche Bahn and the Bus service here in town always seems to be surprised

Heh. I have been trying to hide from the flu as well. So far its working.




*Waves at Dianne Hi there!! Hows you??



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SitaTheNightGoddess says:
(Sun Feb 18 02:29:35 2018 24.79.36.21) [Edit/Delete]
white wings: He was raised on Buffy so that helped!

Dirty Socks!!!!!!!!! *tackles* Hi!



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Dirty Socks says:
(Sun Feb 18 02:23:19 2018 216.121.153.140) [Edit/Delete]
Sour Grapes!

~DS



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white wings says:
(Sun Feb 18 02:19:57 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Kessie - I thought Germany had a lot more snow. Live and learn. That rainy cold is colder, and seeps into the bone, though. I'm surprised at the chaos. We have chaos when it snows enough to stick in Central Texas (it happens every decade or so), but I would have thought that Germany would be better prepared. Apparently the budget problems of being prepared for snow are universal.

The best behaved snow arrives long enough to take pictures and possibly make a snowball, and then it goes away.

We are having flu around here. I can sit at my computer at the end of a room at work, and avoid much in-person social interaction at other times, and keep my fingers crossed.

Sita the Night Goddess - Good plan with your son. *g* When I see or hear of the antics of young men, my first question is "How do they survive to adulthood?", and my second is "Why are they allowed to survive to adulthood?" But those are the musings of a childless spinster. I dare say that parents (or men who were allowed to survive) deal with it by passing on the indulgence afforded to them. Or it has something to do with the survival of the species. ;-)



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SitaTheNightGoddess says:
(Sun Feb 18 02:13:47 2018 24.79.36.21) [Edit/Delete]
Kessie: Saving grace is this is a long weekend for us so I don't have to go back to work till Tuesday. I'm drinking lots of water and hot tea
& I've got Buckleys medicine. My throat is SO sore. *sad face*

white wings: Sometimes I wonder how in the world he made it to 20. I've also told him that once he hits 25 he will forevermore be known as my
brother not son. HAHA! I can't have a son who is 25 when *I* feel 25! It's so weird!

*waves at Dianne*



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white wings says:
(Sun Feb 18 02:03:40 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Sita the Night Goddess - Twenty?!? Oh my. How did you let that happen? *accusing*

I've knitted booties for the children of babies that I knitted for, and that makes me feel the passage of time.



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Dianne says:
(Sun Feb 18 01:59:49 2018 98.66.210.180) [Edit/Delete]
:waves:



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Kessie says:
(Sun Feb 18 01:58:58 2018 207.244.66.70) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sun Feb 18 02:09:26 2018
SitaTheNightGoddess Brr thats cold. But then again it gets much colder in Canada.. here its rarely much colder than -10 Celsius which is probably warm to you guys. Currently is -2 C outside, just had a look.

Be careful with the cold. Here the flu is going around pretty strong. So far I have been mostly lucky and only had a normal cold at the start of the year. Feel better soon!




white wings Yep lots of uncertainty sadly. And hard to get into. And writing for TV seems impossible. But well, I tried at least.

Germany in Winter is mostly icky rainy cold but sometimes we get snow and then its chaos. Luckily the snow is gone again. ( Though I must say I like snow if I dont have to go somewhere- but try to go to work by train then and wait wait wait..brrrr)


ETA: The Bronze keeps eating my apostrophes no idea why. Just imagine them ;-)



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SitaTheNightGoddess says:
(Sun Feb 18 01:53:28 2018 24.79.36.21) [Edit/Delete]
white wings: *waves* Hey! Time
sure flies eh? My oldest son Cole was born
just a few months after Buffy started season
1. He turned 20 in October!



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white wings says:
(Sun Feb 18 01:42:19 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Kessie - That's a lot of uncertainty. I hope that at least the jobs exist. As you say, the semi-retirement is pleasant. Having to drive in to the job keeps me used to driving in heavier traffic. Germany in mid-winter sounds very cold. Why haven't we invented beaming?

VT - We're grown up? Damn, nobody told me that. Older, certainly, but UP?

Sita the Night Goddess - *waves* Wonderful to see you, even if you are turning several shades of blue. I believe we first met a little over 18 years ago. Time passes.



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SitaTheNightGoddess says:
(Sun Feb 18 01:40:15 2018 24.79.36.21) [Edit/Delete]
Kessie: Well its only -19c so I
shouldnt complain. It was -37c a couple
days ago! And actually I woke up with a
cold in the middle of the night (runny/stuffy
nose and very sore throat) so I guess its
good Im home and not in LA. However sad
I am to be missing the party and all the
people!



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Kessie says:
(Sun Feb 18 01:35:00 2018 207.244.66.70) [Edit/Delete]
SitaTheNightGoddess Im freezing here in Germany as well also being all envious... Wish I could have gone to Los Angeles. Ill pout with you

*sits down at the bar and orders a Strawberry colada*

VT Thats what I was thinking.


Btw why havent we invented beaming yet? Going to the PBP would be so much easier. *sighs*



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SitaTheNightGoddess says:
(Sun Feb 18 01:29:09 2018 24.79.36.21) [Edit/Delete]
*takes a seat at the bar and orders a sour
apple*

So Im in Canada freezing. Not in SoCal.
Cue the pouting.



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VT says:
(Sun Feb 18 01:25:14 2018 174.88.105.29) [Edit/Delete]
Hey my Bronzers. Just checking in to say I
hope the 20th PBP party goers have a
great time but not so great that I miss
something really funny and illegal unless
you are going to stream it in which case a
heads up would be nice. Wear a disguise
though.. we're all supposed to be all grown
and stuff.

VT



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Kessie says:
(Sun Feb 18 01:23:07 2018 207.244.66.70) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Birthday Anya's Wrath!

RIP Ducky

White Wings: Oh semi retired can be great. More time for nice things. Im currently looking for a job again ... normal for me, cause the contracts working for TV are always temporary and its getting worse. Now they dont hire months they hire weeks, sometimes even only for days. Need to find something else ...



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white wings says:
(Sun Feb 18 01:18:08 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Happy Birthday Anya's Wrath!

RIP Ducky

It looks as though the Sour Grapes Reunion Party has begin.

Night Blooming Jasmine - Welcome home! It's tomorrow now after my post last night. *g* Wonderful to see you.

TB, Kessie - Great to see you! It's been pretty quiet here, but it will be nice to see familiar faces. I'm semi-retired, working two days a week, and leading a very sedate life.

lostinamerica, Christopher Marlowe - Adam Rippon gave a lovely performance. I liked his outfit, too. Not quite as much as I liked Hanyu's or Shoma Uno's, but I really like the shiny. Nathan's shiny was all in his performance. It'll be interesting to see how he grows from here. I loved Javier Fernandez and his choice of Man of La Mancha.

I think someone should skate to Buffy music sometime.



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Kessie says:
(Sun Feb 18 00:52:34 2018 207.244.66.70) [Edit/Delete]
*Delurks* Hi guys... havent been here in ages...
How is everyone?



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TB says:
(Sat Feb 17 23:17:36 2018 162.208.95.234) [Edit/Delete]
So since that worked, this is what I tried to
post yesterday:

*delurks after dropping off the net for like 10
years*

I had no idea this place was still around!
OMG! Im posting from the reunion (well
actually my room at the hotel of the
reunion). Got together with AKABECKER,
OldManFan, DustEm and her bf, my
girlPhred, and Immortal at Scum and
Villainy Been having a blast going back in
the way back machine. Excited to see
peeps I havent seen since 2004 (when
I moved out to LV). Thanks to OMF for
hosting and putting this awesome shindig
together! Oh and I can finally announce I
got my Buffy bears. I never could afford
them way back when (being a broke college
student and all) and well then I forgot about
them and now they were in the store so I
had to grab them. I am a TeddiBear after all.
So *wavies* to all I know and who couldnt
be here partying with us this fine weekend. I
dont have FB but if you wanna
keep in touch I did put my email linked in
my name. Feel free to drop me a line :)

*poofus and relurks*

TB
(I do not remember much of my siggie as
its hiding in a word doc on my old external
back home and this is on my phone but
here goes a small piece:)
Tag Slayer #7 (used to use that on my LJ)
ABC #1 (Co-Founder and Head Chica)
L.O.S.E.R



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TB says:
(Sat Feb 17 23:12:27 2018 162.208.95.234) [Edit/Delete]
*delurks*

Im testing to see if I can post. Been having
issues at the hotel. If I can Ill post
something of substance :)

-TB
I left my siggie at home :)

*relurks*



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Night Blooming Jasmin says:
(Sat Feb 17 23:04:03 2018 208.118.23.240) [Edit/Delete]
White Wings - Hi hi! I
think the Sour Grapes event is
tonight. While all the cool folks
and LA get down.

--NBJ
If I remembered my signature,
that.... would be... something very
special.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Feb 17 15:47:36 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Saturday, February 17th 2018 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


Anya's Wrath
ducky - RIP
rus in urbe

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Anya's Wrath, rus un urbe!



his is a time of celebration, so sit still and be quiet. Snyder, 'Graduation Day (2)''''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Feb 17 14:47:39 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
lostinamerica I saw that Nathan was able to get from 17th to 5th, which is astounding! Not a bad showing from the US Team..



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lostinamerica says:
(Sat Feb 17 12:56:28 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
Thank you, Adam Rippon, for showing
us all that even though you don't
have the skill set to win you can
still skate your *ss off and put on
a great show :)


Belated Yay! greengirl!



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white wings says:
(Sat Feb 17 06:51:14 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Yay greeneyes!

Happy Birthday Kris, MozzarellaDemon, psycho_pep_squad, and teach!

lostinamerica - Johnny is competing with himself for the tallest pompadour :) LOL! That's the most perfect description!

Did I see word of a possible Sour Grapes party tomorrow night? That would be lovely.



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Maverick says:
(Sat Feb 17 06:47:32 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Recent occurrences and discussions bring to mind the way things were when I was growing up in the 50's. You MAY be amazed at what I will tell you. I lived a half a block between my Chandler Grade School (kindergarten to 6th grades) and my Garfield Junior High School (7th thru 10th.) If I forgot my gym shoes, or something else, I used to ask to go to the Boy's Room, and then I would sneak outside and run home to get them. Okay, in the first floor of my Junior High School was a Firing Range (run by the School, supervised by the NRA.) Kids would take their rifles to school and lock them in their lockers. I had no interest in this, but my brother Dan (four years younger) was a member of the shooting team, and he had trophies to prove his ability. He had great eyes and could spot a dollar bill across a parking lot. Growing up HE had around 10 rifles, that he bought with his own money, that were Army surplus (I think many were Austrian.)

There were Crazy Houses (Mental Sanitariums) back then, where people with mental problems were kept (some people were in and out from time to time, no stigma.) When I hear the name Torrence High School (stand in for Sunnydale High) I have to chuckle, as Torrence was the name of the Crazy House near my hometown of Johnstown, PA. The town was mostly a series of Bethlehem Steel plants along the Conemaugh River. Were there autistic kids? No, I don't remember any. Were there any shootings? No, I don't recall them. Possibly more illuminating memories in future posts.


Christopher Marlowe: Would you like history to end and herstory to begin?


Maverick


License To Kill




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wolfguard says:
(Sat Feb 17 01:12:44 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick,

I'll consider reading the article linked once you get around to dealing with that flawed argument you thought spot-on in its dismissing of CO2. The author's approach was reasonable, but his conclusion was off. It was off because he failed to account for several important factors. Again I will list them ...

1 - Life cycles of green-house gases

2 - Marginal analysis

3 - Trace gases


I will elaborate on the last. People who approach a system by first sorting its elements into piles and then discounting the smaller piles would discount the football players in a Super Bowl game, because they are only a few dozen amongst tens of thousands.


Until I see you address the flaws in the argument, then your statements of belief on climate change are mere opinions. And I do not accept linked articles as proxies for your argument. Show your work. *g*



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Feb 16 21:44:25 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
I may be offline for a good chunk of the night...lost of meetings and events throughout the late afternoon and evening!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Feb 16 21:26:19 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper I just had a thought, with History books in schools, when does history end?



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Feb 16 18:49:33 2018 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
If you did something "Like a Boss" you probably just told somebody else to do it.

What if the use of "emojis" becomes so prevalent that we end up going back to writing in hieroglyphics?

How far back in history do you have to go before it's considered "archaeology" and not "grave robbing?"

We will never hear about any truly perfect crimes.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Feb 16 15:06:39 2018 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
Wolfguard - Game of Thrones - I'm just about done with the last book, "A Dance with Dragons."

I decided to read all the books first, then watch the TV show.

Although I must admit I've watched some pretty good chunks of the TV show via youtube videos, enough to get a good idea of where some of the story lines between the books and show diverge.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Feb 16 15:01:53 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard Yes, Sutton is a registered democrat. I don't know him all that well, but I will be voting for him.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Feb 16 14:50:45 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Friday, February 16th 2018 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Kris
MozzarellaDemon
psycho_pep_squad
teach

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Kris, MozzarellaDemon, psycho_pep_squad, teach!



I'm fairly certain I said no interruptions. Buffy, 'Checkpoint'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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YayoftheDay says:
(Fri Feb 16 14:28:39 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for greeneyes!

yay greeneyes! Happy


Thank Joss It's Friday!



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Maverick says:
(Fri Feb 16 08:19:44 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Feb 16 19:15:06 2018
Wolfguard: Sorry I caused you to throw up your hands. I can't recall the conversation but I will address the matters. Global Warming is a key agenda of the Left; they believe it gives them incredible control over many areas of the economy. Now, the extent of ice in the Arctic (or Antarctic) does not come up in casual conversation. Not mine, anyway. If it is discussed it is being used as a "proof" of Global Warming, no matter the volcanic activity of Greenland, Iceland or the area, or no matter the amount of forest fires in the U.S. and Canada whose smoke will change the albedo of such a snowed-upon white area, and no matter the periodic bounce-back of ice extent. If this is talked about, the talker is trying to advance the Global Warming agenda.

Now as far as the USSR breakup around 1990--if we were talking about it, I would have linked to and brought up this Graph by Ross McKitrick, showing the loss of 6,000 temperature data reporting stations (the plotted line) in 1990 as a result of the breakup of the USSR, and yet at the same time a rise in the average global temperatures (the bars in the graph.) Maybe you threw up your hands before taking the link? That would explain your memory of the conversation. And my opinion of Obama's "lies and deceptions" comes from such things as "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor, and if you like your plan, you can keep your plan, and the ACA will save each family $2,500 each year" and such things as THIS. BTW National Geographic also says Climate Change is Moving the (rotational) North Pole. Do I believe in Climate Change? Yes, but in the sense that it has always been changing, and very little of it involves CO2.


Christopher Marlowe: Billie Sutton? Any relation to Willie?


Maverick


Circle In The Sand




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wolfguard says:
(Fri Feb 16 05:23:16 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Does Sutton identify himself as a Democrat?

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Feb 16 05:03:13 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard He may appeal to independents/libertarians, as those groups are growing faster, I think, than the Republicans or Democrats.

Democrat 158,417
Republican 245,180
NPA/IND 120,297

The two Republican candidates for Governor: Attorney General Jackley or Rep. Krisi Noem will be the most highly watched race for sure.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Feb 16 04:35:38 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

From The Economist, February 10-16 2018, pp.26-27

Article Title:

A Democrat in South Dakota
Plains speaking

A former rodeo champion tries to snap a Democratic losing streak

(Speaking of Billie Sutton)

EXCERPTS BEGIN

...South Dakota last elected a Democratic governor in 1974... The main
divide in South Dakota politics, he posits, is not between Democrats and
Republicans but between urban and rural regions. That works to Mr Sutton's
advantage. As a country politician he understands rural issues and voters.
As a Democrat, he stands to do well in the state's more liberal urban
areas...

... If he can just get the state party to lay he has a fighting chance (Ryan
Maher)

...Mr Sutton is a pro-life, pro-gun, church-going Democrat, just as Heidi
Heitkamp - a Democratic senator from North Dakota - supports fracking and
the Keystone oil pipeline. They are less prariire populists than prairie
pragmatists focused on kitchen-table issues and connecting to individual
voters, rather than joining the partisan vanguard. Their positions may be
anathema in Brooklyn and San Francisco. But what works near the oceans does
not always play in the plains.

END OF ARTICLE AND EXCERPTS


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Feb 16 04:15:53 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I didn't think our Governor race would make the news!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Feb 16 02:32:44 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

I did, I did. *g* I have the issue here somewhere...

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Feb 16 01:29:17 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard You mentioned a story about one of the candidates for governor here?



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Feb 16 01:07:29 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Fri Feb 16 01:09:32 2018
Agent Cooper,

I watch Game of Thrones, but have not read the books. I do have a
friend who has done both. As I remember, he said there was a causal
relationship between magic and the dragons. I think it's that magic had to
return before the dragons could hatch.

As to the varying lengths of the seasons on Westeros.1 An
exaggerated elliptical order might explain a very long, cold winter. OTOH,
the seasons would still occur over one orbit around the sun.2 The
way the characters talk there was an uncertainty about exactly when the
seasons would come or for how long they would last. In first season, a old
woman who was caring for Brandon called him a "summer child". None of the
Stark kids seemed to have experienced a full winter.3 So what
might cause the variation?

Here's my theory, as it just popped into my head. *g* What determines winter
on Earth is the tilt of the planet relative to the Sun. The Earth's
rotational axis has a 23.5 degree tilt with respect to the plane in which
the Earth orbits the Sun. This tilt results in the amount of sunlight
hitting any given surface area varying over the course of the year. During
the winter the same amount of sunlight is spread over a greater area of land
than during the summer. It also means that when the Northern hemisphere is
experiencing winter (summer), the Southern hemisphere is experiencing summer
(winter). The tilt is more important than the distance between the Earth and
the Sun. Point of fact, the United States is closer to the Sun during the
winter and farther in the summer. OTOH, Australia is closer to the Sun
during its summer and farther during the winter. Since both the tilt and the
distance coincide in the southern hemisphere, their seasons may be more
extreme.

So take the tilt factor and imagine Westeros is on a planet with a very
wobbly tilt. This might create uncertain timings of winter and summer. OTOH,
one the planet had gone half way around its star, the tilt would be work in
favor of the opposite season. Winter and Summer would still occur on an
annual basis. What now?

Maybe the planet is so wobbly that the tilt changes more than once over the
course of one orbit? I'm not sure how that would affect the climate and eco-
systems ...

... What if the planet and its star had a neighbor star of some sort or a
rogue, wandering Jupiter-sized planet whose orbit approaches every x number
of years? Perhaps that pulls the Westero's planet's tilt out of whack. Now
combine this with an extreme elliptic orbit ...

Or perhaps it is all magic. *g*





1 Westeros is actually the large island on which the seven
kingdoms exist. It's shape looks vaguely like Great Britiain. I've read that
Martin was inspired by the English War of the Roses which was fought between
the House of York (Stark?) and the House of the Lancasters (Lannisers?).

2 Venus takes less than one Earth year to orbit the Sun, while
Mars takes ~600-700 days to orbit the Sun (close two Earth years)

3 SPOILER RECENT SEASON Game of Thrones

((Winter has arrived))



WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Feb 15 23:36:38 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit


Category: Food
Question: What is the name of the mascot for Kellogg's Raisin Bran cereal?
Answer; Sunny

Trivia Sunnyness: notsoShyGirl
Trivia Comedian: Agent Cooper!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Feb 15 21:22:17 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper That's not a bad fanwank. I don't watch the Game of Thrones, but it is a difficult series of books to adapt anyways and when the tv show is getting ahead of the books!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Feb 15 21:07:52 2018 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
I've been thinking about why the seasons are so irregular on whatever planet GOT takes place on. It must have a really irregular orbit, or totally unpredictable random weather patterns, or both.

I've read fan speculation that when the Night King is finally killed the seasons will go back to normal. Meaning HE is the reason for the oddly oscillating seasons.

Say? Is that fanwanking? Because it sounds like FANWANKING!

FANWANK

FANWANKING!

FANWANKING! The dirty sounding word you can say anywhere and it's totally okay!



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Feb 15 19:34:04 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Current issue of The Economist has an article on one of South
Dakota's candidates for governor. I will post excerpts later tonight. :)


Maverick,

You are critical of my listening habits, eh?1

One of "your big mistake(s)" is your certainty you're wired-in to the truth.
The reason I stopped reading your posts for several years was because of one
single post that encapsulated one of your perceptual blinders. Here's what I
remember of it ...

Around 2014-15, National Geographic put out a new edition of its
atlas. The publisher or an editor said ~ due to ice cap changes they had to
make the greatest changes since the USSR dissolved ~.2 A short
time later, then President Obama made reference to this statement when
talking on climate change/global warming.

You responded to Obama's statement with a post. Not a surprise. And of
course you saw Obama's statement as lies and deceptions, etc. You went
further in explaining why the analysis of the USSR and climate change was
bogus, etc. And herein was where I figuratively through up my hands.

Neither the National Geographic (NG) or Obama was making a causal connection
between the USSR and climate change. National Geographic has put out many
editions of their maps and they usually do it because changes in borders,
names, etc. with the number of changes varying from edition to edition. In
this case a lot of changes had been due to ice shrinking. To give the
audience a benchmark, NG pointed to the number of countries created after
the USSR ended. NG did not say there was relationship between climate change
and the end of the USSR and neither did Obama - and yet off you went on it.

We all look at the world through our experiences, education, values, etc.
It's just the way our brains work. When they work well, adapting to
learning. But sometimes they get fixated. From reading your posts, your
perceptions are Procrustean with respect to some topics.

Further when people disagree with you, a common reply is they have been
brainwashed by ~ the liberal/mass media and/or their liberalism. I've read
you posting variations of this so often than I just roll my eyes. You make
yourself look like a cliche.


1 I think CNN decided to cross-swords with President Trump. I
think part of that is because Trump began waving his sword at them during
the primaries and general election. Do they want to ~bring him down~?
Perhaps, but this is a discussion we can have in another exchange of posts.

2 If you decide to respond, save the climate stuff for a
different post. Herein, I'm simply noting the where this began, with NG's
statement - whether one believes it or not.


WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Feb 15 16:19:14 2018 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Not this guy!



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu Feb 15 15:50:49 2018 206.124.19.186) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Sunny



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Feb 15 15:35:33 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu Feb 15 20:15:35 2018
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit


Category: Food
Question: What is the name of the mascot for Kellogg's Raisin Bran cereal?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu Feb 15 15:35:02 2018 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
MAverick "It" is claustrophilia; those were the things I had in mind when I invented the word back in the 80s.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Feb 15 15:11:43 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay greengirl!


Happy CD Thursday!



Agent Cooper It is supposed to snow today!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Feb 15 15:03:22 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Thursday, February 15th 2018 C.E.

We have NINE (9) Birthdays!


~ceridwen~
Carita's Mom
Chamaray
Elli the Vampire Slayer
Miller's Angel
Spoon
twilight
Wicked_Will
WillowJadia

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to ceridwen, Carita's Mom, Chamaray, Elli the Vampire Slayer, Miller's Angel, spoon, twilight, Wicked_Will, WillowJadia!



Danger's my birthright. Buffy, 'The I in Team'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Feb 15 14:28:29 2018 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
Going to be 50 degrees today. So that's nice. Maybe we'll have an early spring.



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YayoftheDay says:
(Thu Feb 15 14:16:15 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for greengirl!

yay greengirl!


Happy CD Thursday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Feb 15 12:24:43 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick--For Christmas I
got a frankincense and myrrh
candle to burn, it was a very
pleasant scent :)


white wings--Oh, that's
terrible, to have to give up your
rose garden :(

Johnny is competing with himself
for the tallest pompadour :)



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Maverick says:
(Thu Feb 15 07:47:58 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Thu Feb 15 07:58:58 2018
DaddyCatALSO: Let me quote you: " It's not a personal issue like that. It's political; white supremacists and other racial-intolerance groups, some extreme environmentalists like the anti-nukes & extreme anti-abundance ones, some lost continent and ancient astronaut types, the World-Ice Theory, etc." Now, based on our prior conversations, I can't for the life of me figure out what the It's refers to. Or did you just mistakenly address this post to me when it was meant for some other Bronzer. It certainly had nothing to do with "claustrophilia."


white wings: Your "fragrance" comments reminds me of a certain obsession I have. When I was a kid, I was an altar boy for the Roman Catholics and on Sunday afternoon we had "Vespers" ceremonies which I had to "serve" at. The most important thing I had to do for Vespers was to light the charcoal for the incense censer (correct spelling.) (Frequently it would not light but we blamed it on the cheap charcoal.) The incense used was the very same stuff used at requiem masses for the dead. I was enamored with this scent and for years searched it out, looking for a cologne redolent of Catholic religious-related incense. And I found it. Incense Avignon© by Comme des Garcons. Compared to the fragrances of my male youth, Brut©, Canoe©, and Jade East©, Avignon© makes me feel a tad transcendent, and a tad is all I really need. P.S. Expensive.


I'm watching the DVD's of Season Four of "The Vikings," (from The History Channel) and the whole series is an extraordinary achievement. It's exciting and yet thoughtful. I may have mentioned before that a guy named Travis Fimmel plays Ragnar Lothbrok in this series, and he was the same actor who played a barefoot Tarzan in the 2003 "Tarzan" series that Mere Smith got some writing credits for.


Wolfguard: Your big mistakes are BBC and CNN. BBC has Islamophobia (and rightly so) and cannot be trusted to report anything negative to Muslims. CNN is committed to try to remove Trump from office and therefore specializes in Fake News (I think they've been promised the Order of Lenin if they get it done.) Watch more Fox (which is the only chance you have to find out what's really going on) or listen to Rush Limbaugh (noon to 3.)


Maverick


Till I Hear It From You




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white wings says:
(Thu Feb 15 04:14:12 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Yay KAM!

Happy Birthday ash, Duchess of Buffonia, Lucan, and Val!

lostinamerica - Your mother has my sympathy. I wasn't always bothered by fragrances. I had a long illness in the late 70s, which triggered various allergies to pollens and fragrances. I grew a lot of roses back in the day, and had to transition from cutting type roses to landscape bushes. They were also fragrant but were on the other side of the windows. Lilies are the worst, although I understand that if one cuts the stamens off, one can avoid both stained clothes and rebellious sinuses (if one can get close enough to do it and survive). Oddly, I can handle mountain laurel (what we call mountain laurel, not kalmia), which has an intense fragrance. But I'm not comfortable around it, because I keep waiting for the pain to start. ;-)

Incense? :eeek: I accompany my brother's family to Episcopal services on holidays (I figure I'll get some points), but I have to suppress a desire to attack the person swinging the censors (? That's what they call them?) and fling the things through the stained glass windows. I'm pretty sure I couldn't pull it off anyway, but it would not be well regarded. I take antihistamines.

Christopher Marlowe - I haven't had any truck with that stuff in years. Limp hair is far preferable. The quest for unscented shampoos and conditioners was a long one.

Caber tossing would be a perfect slayer competition.

lostinamerica(2) - Have you seen Johnny Weir's hair? *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Feb 15 04:13:44 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

"Humanities department"?

WG



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Feb 15 03:33:23 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
ChristopherMarlowe--Good
Lord, do people still use hairspray?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Feb 15 03:08:36 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I was going by my facebook feed, which tells me when Trump makes the news for some tweet or statement. Right now, it is his desire to eliminate the NEA and Humanities department that is upsetting folks here.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Feb 15 02:41:47 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

In the context of AtS, "Hyperion" and "Forlorn Hope" are synonyms. *g*

My listening/viewing habits:

Mid-morning: BBC

Early afternoon: CNN

Late afternoon: POTUS

Midnight/Early Morning: Bloomberg / CNN


At these times, CNN seems to be devoting most of its coverage to Trump and
company. Now this afternoon, CNN and FOX were both covering the active
shooter incident in Florida.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe;farrior says:
(Thu Feb 15 01:52:35 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
And continuing on with the Olympic
theme.

The 2020 World Slayer Championships

Building Leaping
Boulder Toss
Speed Staking.



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ChristopherMarlowe;farrior says:
(Thu Feb 15 01:34:35 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard You know what's
amazing? I haven't seen much of
Trump in the news lately. At least
not as much as usual. It's a nice
change of pace.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Feb 15 01:13:05 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard is that what the
word 'hyperion' means? *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Feb 15 00:16:20 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl,

"A Forlorn Hope"?

*g*


WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Feb 14 23:57:00 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What was the name of the hotel the Angel Gang worked/lived in?
Answer; Hyperion

Trivia Master: OldManFan!!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Feb 14 21:32:49 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
lostinamerica Don't get me started on hairspray!



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lostinamerica says:
(Wed Feb 14 19:49:13 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
white wings--My mother is also bothered by perfume and incense :(


Yay! KAM!


Belated Yay! Octoquad!



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OldManFan says:
(Wed Feb 14 17:43:06 2018 76.80.143.218) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Wed Feb 14 17:44:40 2018
Christopher Marlowe - getting things ready and meeting up with non-Bronze friends.

BTW, one of the auction items is a room number from "the Hyperion".

OMF



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Feb 14 16:35:49 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
OldManFan How are you enjoying things so far?



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OldManFan says:
(Wed Feb 14 15:12:48 2018 76.80.143.218) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl - the Hyperion.

OMF



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Feb 14 14:49:28 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What was the name of the hotel the Angel Gang worked/lived in?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Feb 14 14:24:12 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Wednesday, February 14th 2018 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


ash
Duchess of Buffonia
Lucan
Val-Deborah (Dianne's Big Sis)

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to ash, Duchess of Buffonia, Lucan, Val!



I, for one, wasn't looking forward to starting my day with a slaughter. Which, really, just goes to show how much I've grown Anya, 'Shadow''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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YayoftheDay says:
(Wed Feb 14 14:08:22 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for kam!

yay kam!

todays deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

Studio 666 - The Devil Boogies here.

Who are the best dancers among the Fang Gang?



Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Feb 14 13:36:56 2018 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe - Remember, they're not just interviewing you. YOU are interviewing THEM.

Do they have what it takes recruit and retain an exceptional, highly skilled employee like yourself?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Feb 14 04:20:28 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Looks like a quiet night...I'd better get to bed, I've got an interview in the morning!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Feb 14 02:41:20 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
OldManFan Thanks for giving us the update! Have fun y'all!



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OldManFan says:
(Tue Feb 13 22:54:27 2018 76.80.143.218) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe, Agent Cooper, et al - there will be 40 or so attendees unless there is a last minute rush.

However, look for additional posting here Saturday night because we will try to have a laptop hooked up and some non-attendees may be having a Sour Grapes event.

OMF



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Feb 13 22:42:19 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: What real-life high school was the substitute for Sunnydale High?
Answer: Torrance high school

Trivia Master: notsoShyGirl
Trivia comedian: Agent Cooper

Agent Cooper OldManFan himself organized it. Attendance is capped at 150 as the venue probably can't handle more than that.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Feb 13 22:22:08 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
...Dorothy Parker once wrote: If you have any young friends who aspire to
become writers, the second greatest favour you can do them is to present them
with copies of The Elements of Style. The first greatest, of course, is to
shoot them now, while theyre happy.


From an online article in The Guardian (I did not the article
attributed to a writer)


WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Feb 13 20:27:55 2018 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
Chris Marlowe: There's a PBP?? I thought they stopped doing those a long time ago. Who organized that?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Feb 13 20:21:08 2018 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick It's not a personal issue like that. It's political; white supremacists and other racial-intolerance groups, some extreme environmentalists like the anti-nukes & extreme anti-abundance ones, some lost continent and ancient astronaut types, the World-Ice Theory, etc.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Feb 13 19:56:49 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
OldManFan is in LA at the moment, for that PBP reunion party. I'm gutted that I have to miss it, but I hope folks take lots of pictures!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Feb 13 18:16:59 2018 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl: Shermer High School, in Shermer IL.



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Maverick says:
(Tue Feb 13 17:09:32 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO: Or perhaps Temple Grandin (with her "hug machine.")


Maverick


Private Eyes




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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Feb 13 16:05:23 2018 206.124.19.186) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
Torrance HS



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Feb 13 15:43:02 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: What real-life high school was the substitute for Sunnydale High?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Feb 13 14:57:15 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Tuesday, February 13thth 2018 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Angel'sHeaven
BuffyAngel_4ever
Willowgurl
WillowofOz

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Angel'sHeaven, BuffyAngel_4ever, Willowgurl, WillowofOz!



Riley: Maybe I should just let you rest. Buffy: You sure? I bet if you just lay down with me- Riley: Nothing you are about to say will lead to rest. 'Buffy vs Dracula''''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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YayoftheDay says:
(Tue Feb 13 14:38:23 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for octoquad

yay octoquad!

todays deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

Sunnydale Insurance Agency - WE know a thing or two because we've seen vampires and zombies and tigers, oh my!

Should Sunnydale be rebuilt?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday! [/small



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Feb 13 13:55:15 2018 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
Carita - How did you get that smiley to appear? And hi!

Comma - I don't know if it could have been done in today's internet and cell phone world. It was very hard then. We spent days shipping troops and hardware down and unloading civilians coming back. But it worked. Somehow nobody outside the base seemed to catch on.

At Pope AFB, where I was stationed, we had the JASOC and Delta Force guys. We loaded up quite a few planes with interesting people with interesting gear, usually at night, and none of those planes were ever on the schedule and nobody was ever told who they were or where they were going. Not even the ATOC guys sometimes.

Later on I was stationed in Panama and the DEA, Special Forces and even the CIA were big down there running drug interdiction and messing with the drug cartels. Those guys were SHADY. Again, it was planes that were not on anybody's schedule landing or taking off at random. Alot of times you'd see these scruffy dudes with beards wearing scrubby bermuda shirts and jeans getting on and off these planes, and we had to do whatever they said without question. At first I wondered who they were and other guys would whisper that they were high ranking special forces or DEA guys and not to ask any questions.

One slow Sunday afternoon at the ramp one of these unscheduled planes landed, a bunch of these shady dudes hopped off and told us they needed help. We go out the plane and there a pile of cocaine bricks in plastic bags sitting on the cargo floor. We hauled them all in and loaded them properly onto a pallet and loaded them onto another plane. The scruffy dudes and a full bird colonel watched us every second while we did this. There must have been a million dollars worth of the stuff on that pallet.

I never found out where it came from or where they took it.



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white wings says:
(Tue Feb 13 07:54:41 2018 70.112.135.184) [Edit/Delete]
Yay Cosmic Bob!

Happy Birthday Ann #3, Blaberus, Holy Water, and Liz!!

wolfguard - LOL! to the Cat's rights.

Since both slayerhood and being turned involved some kind of demonic intervention, perhaps the fact that the vampires didn't have a soul to contend with made them less inhibited, and more free to use their instinctive abilities. Slayers didn't seem to be particularly aware that they had changed until something happened and they started breaking things, or someone started teaching them. So perhaps the fact that Slayers retained their prior experiences and upbringing and souls meant that the addition had a more difficult time expressing itself.

Which leads to the unfortunate yogurt machine and the theorized trigger breaking under stress. *g*

I'm out of my depth with bullets. I know all about lever actions though, because I watched The Rifleman as a child. ;-) I thought that .22 shells were all rim fire, and just about everything else was center fire. Can you even reload a rim fire shell? I hadn't thought about pointy shaped bullets possibly firing the primer of a center fire bullet in front. What an appalling thing that would be!

lostinamerica - All I know is that when they allow people drenched with perfume on planes, they don't think of the unfortunates whose sinuses will curl up and die. I am, as you may have guessed, one of the latter. So if someone has an aversion to a poor little hamster, I have no sympathy. If the alleged comfort animal is roaming the plane pooping, peeing, and/or biting, I tend to lean towards the larger group of passengers.

Christopher Marlowe - I would worry a little about Buffy on skis. Her tools didn't always fare well. If she used wooden poles, at least they would be useful for demons leaping out. Certainly not biathlon. If she could have carried a crossbow instead of a rifle, she might have been OK. Much better for demons. She might have managed skating events. The jumps shouldn't be a problem, and we've seen that she's very capable of using the blade to slice a demon throat. She's pretty good with toe pick action as well, at least if Angel is there for smoochies.



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Maverick says:
(Tue Feb 13 07:07:27 2018 68.51.139.52) [Edit/Delete]
DaddyCatALSO: Greta Garbo "I vant to be alone." A classic case of claustrophilia.


Maverick


I Can't Go For That




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wolfguard says:
(Tue Feb 13 02:57:09 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

I look at 'super-strength' as short-hand for all the abilities or capacities
Buffy would have needed to perform at a 'super' level. These were include
such things as strength, speed, endurance, coordination, etc. Coordination
brings in sensory-set equal to the movement set. One could also argue
slayers had specialized neural circuits tying sensory systems to motor-sets
(I imagine a simple phrase would be conditioned reflexes, though there may
be some question about this.1). Slayers can also endure more
damage and heal quicker than regular folks, so the responsible body systems
are also 'super'.

So, there's more to Buffy than big biceps. *g*


1 A Watcher trains a Slayer, but we've seen than Buffy didn't
seem to need much of such training (recall first season when Giles brought
out the quarter-staffs). OTOH, Giles was using meditation to train Buffy in
The Real Me. Anyway, this leads to Dawn's observation in
Lessons that newly arisen vampires seem to be 'born' with martial
arts skills. If so, could the same not be true for Slayers. If so, Slayers
don't develop 'conditioned reflexes' , but rather being chosen comes with
innate combat reflexes.


Debate

*g*



WG



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Comma says:
(Tue Feb 13 01:57:14 2018 75.143.154.113) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper and all: What was also heartbreaking was the pets that got left behind. Most four legged ones, including at least three Pot Belled Pigs, were humanly put down. Birds, since most had never been wild, were taken by, and resold by, local facilities. Fish were either given to the locals or returned to the salt water.

I would really love to tell all how Special Forces and Rangers were snuck into the country several weeks out, but, because we may need to use those methods again, I must stay quiet.

Comma



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Feb 13 01:55:04 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard I wonder how well Buffy would have done with the Olympic sports. She has super strength, but how much would have that given her an advantage in a sport like skiing?



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Feb 13 01:00:08 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Greetings Carita

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Feb 13 00:42:34 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Hi Carita! How was your day?



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Carita says:
(Tue Feb 13 00:39:50 2018 72.143.194.241) [Edit/Delete]
Hello 😊



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Feb 12 23:00:50 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Literature
Question: What was Charles Dickens' first novel?
Answer: Pickwick papers

Trivia Master: notsoShyGirl



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Feb 12 18:52:55 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Agent Cooper,

USS Kirk


~ You don't have time to think about what you do (did). You just do it ~



WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Feb 12 16:55:44 2018 165.225.38.71) [Edit/Delete]
I was in the Air Force during the invasion of Panama. Just before the invasion there were many passenger flights coming from there, loaded with US civilian personnel fleeing the country ahead of the fighting.

It was pretty chaotic trying to get everybody out quietly and in a hurry. The flights were crowded and the baggage compartments were absolutely stuffed with luggage. People had hastily stuffed as much of their belongings as possible into luggage and handed it in to be shipped. The holds were stuffed and those bags were too. It was backbreaking work unloading them.

But what I remember most were the pets. PAX was so overwhelmed that we had to help with the passenger flights, (I worked in a MAPS squadron, not Passenger) and I remember having to unload the overstuffed pet holds. It was pretty bad. The smell hit you in the face when the hatch opened. The pet crates were full of terrified, hungry dogs and cats, birds, ferrets, you name it. Even saw a monkey once. All the crates were over spilling with urine and poop. You couldn't help spilling it on you.

The worst part was the pets who died enroute. Which were many. There were always some crates with deceased pets in them, because the holds were over stuffed and they were suffocating in there. The compartments were totally full. It was very sad.

The PAX guys told us you were never supposed to load them full like that. But there were only so many flights out, people had to hastily evacuate and couldn't leave their pets behind. So they had no choice.

We heard command took a lot of grief for this. But I don't know if they could have done anything different.



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Ebdim9th says:
(Mon Feb 12 15:52:03 2018 174.235.146.10) [Edit/Delete]
lostinamerica down in the hold there are of course accomodations made for animals by many airlines. They couldve apologized for not being able to allow her to bring the hamster as promised but as a compromise offered to make those arrangements for her.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Feb 12 15:48:51 2018 206.124.19.186) [Edit/Delete]
Trivia Girl
The Pickwick Papers 1836



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Feb 12 15:25:19 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Literature
Question: What was Charles Dickens' first novel?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Mon Feb 12 15:24:29 2018 199.127.148.10) [Edit/Delete]
Maverick ?? "I vant to be alone." "The Hero" ???????????



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Feb 12 14:27:17 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Monday, February 12th 2018 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Anne #3
Blaberus
Holy Water
Liz

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Ann #3, Blaberus, Holy Water, Liz!



Prepare to uncouple -- uncouple. Oz, 'Faith, Hope & Trick''''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Feb 12 14:20:40 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
yay cosmic bob!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Mon Feb 12 12:35:50 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
Yay! Cosmic Bob!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Feb 12 11:57:47 2018 24.3.106.169) [Edit/Delete]
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for cosmic bob!

yay cosmic bob!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Feb 12 07:12:31 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Christopher Marlowe,

Just Russia now.


Classic Space Battle



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Feb 12 00:18:16 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard In Soviet Russia the vote picks you.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Feb 11 22:45:09 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Home!



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Feb 11 21:22:27 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Lostinamerica,

"... whose rights take precedence?"

Is this a trick question? The Cat's. *g*


Russian saying: ~ In Russia, there are three things you cannot choose: Your
parents, your gender, and your president.~

- Ksenia Sobchak


WG



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Feb 11 14:30:20 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Sunday, February 11th 2018 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


David's Chick
Scoobie Gangster
Tenik
Vam
wuthering

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to David's Chick, Scoobie Gangster, Tenik, Vam, wuthering!



That's insane troll logic! Xander, 'Triangle''''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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lostinamerica says:
(Sun Feb 11 13:37:52 2018 73.58.128.92) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard--Yes, it's a
conundrum--one person needs to bring
a dog or cat with them, another is
allergic to dogs or cats, whose
rights take precedence?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Feb 11 04:12:12 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
wolfguard And I thought I was the only one here tonight!



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Feb 11 02:48:24 2018 4.28.180.2) [Edit/Delete]
Edited: Sun Feb 11 02:52:04 2018
Just read an article in "The Cipher Brief Newsletter". It reports on a
briefing in which Norman Roule, a senior CIA officer, made some observations
on Iran. Here's one ...

"If the Iranian regime collapsed today: I think we want to be careful
about an immediate collapse in Iran. If it happens toda ywhat's the
institution left in Iran that is intact, resourced, funded, fed, motivated
and ideologically tested? The IRGC [Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps]. Who
do you think is going to run the place the next day?'


(Comment: During the 80s, I listened to an Iranian woman/academic who had
taken part in the revolution against the Shah. She made two points I've
carried to this day. First, she saw the revolution as being spontaneous.
Second, afterwards various Iranian groups competed for power. The Ayatollahs
won, because the were organized and had the trust of the people.)

ETA

Another excerpt...

"On briefing Congress and the claims that the U.S. intelligence community
is politicized:
Before one particularly contentious sessionan [Obama]
administration official turned to me and said, You didnt sound very
enthusiastic about the [Iran] deal. In fact, you sounded like there might be
some issues with the dealif you can at least point out some of the benefits
a little more robustly, that would be useful.

Within fifteen seconds, as God as my witness, a senior member of the U.S.
Congress pulled me aside and said that he and another individual thought
that my presentation had been far too robustly positive on the deal, and
perhaps I had lost my sense of separation.




WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Feb 11 00:21:39 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Home after seeing RENT!



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Feb 10 18:24:32 2018 71.56.125.67) [Edit/Delete]
Drive-By

Lostinamerica,

I read your post to White Wings. This past, "...Our problem has
been. . .how do the rights of the person needing the comfort animal square
with the rights of people who don't need one?", is a specific example of
the general problem facing free societies: How do we reconcile individual
freedoms with group needs? It probably will always be a work in progress.

On reading that before posting, I noticed that saying "we" could be seem as -
what's the current academia word? - "privilege" the group over the individual.
*g* How else might I say it? How can individuals coordinate their freedoms so
not to bump into each other (?) *g*


WG



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Feb 10 15:32:11 2018 209.159.255.231) [Edit/Delete]
Today is Saturday February 10th 2018 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Babies ate my dingo
Essexgirl_13
Ivy
lilpumpkin
starcrossed

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Babies ate my dingo, Essexgirl_13
Ivy, lilpumpkin, starcrossed!



I'm all up in the law now, but damn it feels good to get my violence on.
Gunn, 'Unleashed'''


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