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lostinamerica says:
(Sat Feb 10 13:18:05 2018 73.58.128.92)
Let the Olympic watching begin :)


Foot Tapper--Welcome back! How are things?

I've never seen Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D--nothing has captured my attention
like BTVS, unfortunately :(


Ebdim9th--After you posted the story about the comfort hamster I
Googled--that was terrible, flushing the poor thing down the toilet, really?
Wouldn't it have been in a cage, couldn't you have done something else? We
continue to have problems with chipmunks but even with that I wouldn't go to
the chipmunk bucket trap, too cruel :(

cc white wings


white wings--Yes, I've heard that it can be difficult finding the right
drug and dosage for mental health issues. Our problem has been. . .how do the
rights of the person needing the comfort animal square with the rights of
people who don't need one?



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Feb 10 04:16:15 2018 4.28.180.2)
White Wings,

Buffy occasionally had problems with modulating her strength. Recall the
unfortunate yogurt machine in The Initiative? Maybe she's Canadian?
*g*

Bolt-actions are the classic design for hunting rifles. They tend to be
viewed as innately more accurate. The lever-action arose and evolved as
folks were headed West. I believe the magazine capacity reflected their dual
use - defense as well as hunting. Many of them were originally chambered for
handgun cartridges. Even the .30-30, the cartridge widely associated with
lever-actions, is smaller than many rifle cartridges. OTOH a few companies,
notably Marlin, make lever-actions chambered in .45-70, a large round. And
being large, the tube magazine of their ~18-inch model holds four rounds (to
be fair, their model with the 26-inch barrels holds ~ nine rounds.

The problem tubular magazines present designers is the common point bullet
(spitzer) under recoil might detonate the primer of the cartridge in front
of it. You'll notice most cartridges for lever-actions have rounded or flat
bullet noses (in the past ten years or so, there have been cartridges with
squishy tips to provide the spitzer advantages without the disadvantage of
an accidental discharge,

The only current tubular magazine pump actions I know of now fire round/flat
nose handgun cartridges or .22LR. I believe there was one lever action
chambered for .357 (Timberwolf?), but I could be wrong.


WG



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white wings says:
(Sat Feb 10 03:28:43 2018 70.112.135.184)
Edited: Sat Feb 10 03:34:47 2018
Happy Birthday forworldstheycanshare!


Christopher Marlowe - Watching opening ceremonies. *enlightenment* I agree, the Tonga flag bearer was worth a good look. Definitely an audacious soul, but he seemed to be enjoying himself. *g* Now I hope that he and the Bermuda delegation survive to compete.

That was the finest moment in the whole unnecessary NBC commenting, when Katie Couric said she'd take over for Tonga and her co-commenter couldn't get out of her way fast enough, thereby demonstrating intelligence and prudence. *g*

wolfguard - Now that is a great explanation for the second "click". It could have happened under any circumstances. It's just neat. *g*

That makes sense for the four rounds, especially for a hunting rifle. But I just googled some pump rifles, and they seem to have the magazine extend under the barrel, the way it does for shotguns, and they hold a lot more rounds. Are you just thinking of that one make that you think was the one used in the scene? In any case, I think we've worked out why the rifle didn't fire, and why there was a "click".

ETA: Maverick - I'm sorry about the snow. I almost feel guilty about being annoyed at being drizzled on today. ;-)



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Feb 10 00:00:55 2018 4.28.180.2)
Edited: Sat Feb 10 00:02:19 2018
White Wings,

My current theory for explaining that last 'click' is Buffy pressed too hard and broke the trigger creating the click. *g*

I think 4-round magazines are from the time when hunters thought two shots were the most they'd likely get at an animal. If you missed on the first shot, then you might get a second shot as it bolted. Also magazines that extended below the stock were viewed as making an rifle unwieldy.

WG



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Ebdim9th says:
(Fri Feb 9 23:28:28 2018 64.28.52.183)
Agent Cooper CM sadly she hid the hamptser in the toilet



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Maverick says:
(Fri Feb 9 23:08:17 2018 68.51.139.52)
DaddyCatALSO: Here's your listing of words that contain philia, phobia, and/or mania.


Ah, the snow, the snow! More comes down and I push it off to the side. Time for more pushing.


Maverick


Build Me Up, Buttercup.




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Maverick says:
(Fri Feb 9 22:00:15 2018 68.51.139.52)
DaddyCatALSO: Who said, "I Vant to be Alone."?


Agent Cooper: Yes, a worthy addition to the annals of cinema, and Sam joined the great pantheon of cowboy actors.


Agent Cooper, DaddyCatALSO: "The Hero" co-stars Laura Prepon, Krysten Ritter, and Nick Offerman


Maverick


Superfreak




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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Feb 9 21:38:24 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Friday, February 9th 2018 C.E.

We have ONE (1) Birthday!


forworldstheycanshare


Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to forworkdtheycanshare!



She didn't even touch her pumpkin. It's a freak with no face. Willow, 'Fear, Itself'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Feb 9 21:12:29 2018 165.225.38.71)
Maverick: Sam Eliot? One word: ROADHOUSE! Or is it two words? ROAD HOUSE!

I dunno.

Anyway, best film ever made! The craft of film making reached it's pinnacle with this magnum opus by master director Rowdy Herrington. Not surprisingly, Sam Elliot's best work by far!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Feb 9 20:45:47 2018 199.127.148.10)
Maverick Oh, yes, I have every intention of writing a book someday on the sin of claustrophilia. #totallyserious

Sam is actually about 3 years younger than Katharine, not bad. He's the guy I think who replaced Robert Mitchum in the "Beef, it's what's for dinner" ads.



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white wings says:
(Fri Feb 9 20:32:24 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay Halfrek!


Foot Tapper - Welcome home!

Christopher Marlowe - 4am? LOL! That's dedication, but if you found some benefit it's all good. *g* I'm waiting for the tape delay. A support goat? I mean, I see people enjoying them as pets when I watch Dr. Pol, and they are cute on TV, but in a small space in real life in close quarters with strangers? It would have to be a remarkable goat.

lostinamerica - There are probably many different circumstances. I'm inclined to think that the group of people who treat themselves so tenderly that they could be "triggered" by opposing political views suffer from self-induced anxiety, and in the olden days they'd have just put on their big-people underthere's and dealt. I feel cynical about that group. Many more might have genuinely painful anxiety problems either from experiences or malfunctioning brain chemistry, and they might in the past (and present) have gone to shrinks and gotten drugs. If they found one that really worked with their brain chemistry with few side effects and was affordable, that's wonderful. Otherwise they'd suffer. It's not a one-size fits all answer. One could argue that if an animal helped then it was better than even a successful drug, or one could argue that if a brain chemistry malfunction could be improved by a drug then that is the best answer. But if no drug worked or could be afforded, I think the presence of an animal is a wonderful thing. That story of an airline who convinced a vulnerable girl to flush a hamster is appalling (but I have no fear of rodents unless they are scurrying towards me and I don't know them personally). But I have no sympathy for the peacock woman. He might have been a wonderful and well-behaved bird, but there is no way he could fit in a seating area while in full feather, unless she had a full row of seats reserved. Also, if he did speak up peacocks (and guinea hens) sound like rending metal.

As for the fear of flying only group, there were the comforts of valium or (one hopes "or") alcohol. *g*

Agent Cooper - LOL! to the Tonga luge team. I was thinking that myself.

wolfguard - Only four rounds? I wouldn't have thought that. A shotgun can usually hold six (unless plugged). At least an automatic can, dunno about pumps. But I bow to your superior knowledge. The extra special slayer loads are a reasonable possibility, but we still have to explain being able to pull the trigger twice with one rack. *g*



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Maverick says:
(Fri Feb 9 19:29:14 2018 68.51.139.52)
Agent Cooper, DaddyCatALSO: The Japanese had "comfort women." We seem to always have kvetching ones.


Today's Spaceweather page talks about Elon Musk's cherry red Tesla roadster which is now a satellite of earth.


Agent Cooper, DaddyCatALSO: Did you get the info on making wonderfully complex words using phobia, philia, and mania? Like claustrophobia, necrophilia, and megalomania.


Okay, who doesn't love Sam Elliott? Last night I watched the DVD of "The Hero" a drama which features Sam in a part that is somewhat close to himself. His character does voice-overs (Sam did Ram commercials and is the voice of Smokey the Bear), is an actor, and is around 72 years old (a youngster, haha.) I have loved (platonic) Sam since I first saw him in "Lifeguard" (which was something like "Baywatch") and then there was the "Novel for Television" called "Once An Eagle." Also, my younger brother Dan, when he grew a mustache, looked just like Sam (actually, my mother's maiden name was Elliott) Sam has played in many cowboy movies, many with Tom Selleck. See "The Hero". He does a special feature commentary on the DVD that will make you like him all over again.


Maverick


Vertigo




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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Feb 9 18:12:47 2018 199.127.148.10)
Agent Cooper Maybe if it were turned int oa joke it would be switched to a gerbil? #deadpan



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Feb 9 18:10:20 2018 165.225.38.71)
"Comfort Hamster" Heh. There's a very inappropriate joke in there someplace.

...To be told by some OTHER more loutish poster. Surely not ME, since I am a gentleman.


I watched a movie called "Monsterville" with daughter Cooper the other day. It was pretty good. Kinda reminded me of "Something Wicked This Way Comes" only cosdiderably lighter in tone.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Feb 9 17:56:58 2018 71.56.125.67)
Agent Cooper,

Mars is populated entirely by robots. *G*


Maverick,

If I wanted complicated words I'd favor German or Welsh. Off the latter,
there was a sign seen in Wales announcing a meeting to promote the Welsh
language. The sign was in English. *g*


White Wings,

Most bolt and pump action hunting rifles tend not to hold many rounds. I
checked the specs for the Remington 7600 (I got it wrong in earlier post,
saying 760). It used a 4-round magazine. If the hunter used a full magazine
and the first round was fired at Buffy and Cordelia in the woods, then there
should have been three more rounds. Buffy's second pumping of the action
would have ejected the second round. Cordelia fired the third round. So,
there should have been a fourth round and consequently, no click!
1

As to the question, when was Cordelia's round ejected and by whom? I'd bet
the director and crew didn't give it much thought. OTOH, I may need to
rewatch the scene again. *g*

1 It's also possible the hunter used very special slayer rounds -
custom-made under a Super Blue Moon and could only afford three?


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Feb 9 17:30:47 2018 209.159.255.231)
Edited: Fri Feb 9 17:31:44 2018
Agent Cooper The Tonga dude was in the Rio Olympics as a taekwondo athlete and decided to become a cross-country athlete because he saw it as the most difficult sport. I guess he actually managed to make the minimum requirement of that sport to make it to the Olympics. So I think it is sheer ego on his part, as he doesn't appear to have financial support from his own country.

Ebdim9th 'Comfort hamster' is two words I never would have thought would be together. However, there was something similar to that here, a local woman was upset about not being allowed bring her emotional support goat with her.

ETA

Good to see you Foot Tapper!



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Ebdim9th says:
(Fri Feb 9 17:06:59 2018 174.235.149.191)
lostinamerica apparently some lady at an airport felt pressured by security to flush her comfort hamster down the toilet after someone from Spirit airlines told her over the phone she could bring it, so she did!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Feb 9 17:05:58 2018 165.225.38.71)
The sinking of the Titanic must have seemed like a miracle to the lobsters in the kitchen.

Your stomach thinks all potatoes are mashed.

Killing a spider makes the spider gene pool sneakier and more deadly.

Mars is populated entirely by robots.

If your shirt isn't tucked into your pants, are your pants tucked into your shirt?



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Foot Tapper says:
(Fri Feb 9 16:22:31 2018 212.250.221.1)
oh, and Yay halfrek!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Feb 9 16:22:02 2018 165.225.38.71)
Chris Marlowe - The real question here is WHY does Tonga even have a delegation to the Winter Olympics?

It's nothing but sandy beaches and a chilly winter day there is like 80F.

Did they send a luge team???



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Foot Tapper says:
(Fri Feb 9 16:15:46 2018 212.250.221.1)
How crazy is this?! I haven't been here in so long but I've stopped by today and seen that I had a Yay shout out the other day!

Thanks to everyone who Yay'd me :-)

I hope everyone is well.

In terms of the Whedonverse, I am a crazy, obsessed fan of Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and I ship Fitzsimmons almost as badly as I shipped Buffy and Angel :-) We are currently waiting for Season 5 to be shown in the UK - I hate that we're so far behind :-(

Anyway, best wishes to all :-)

I've put my old sig at the bottom - hopefully, it's not too out of date :-)

FT x

SOs to: abt, Algerina (RIP), amystar, angela, Aramina, Austin154, Beldin, Bossy the Cow, buffyrat, cabin7dad, CaughtNTheQuiet, Christopher Marlowe, DaddyCatALSO, Django, Dru in LA, GothicAvenger, Gray (RIP), helygen, Holy Water, Irishrose, Jaan Quidam, jitsudude (RIP), KAM, k8cre8, kessie, Leather Jacket, Leira, loop, lostinamerica, lucille, Maverick, Menomegirl, Morella, neonate, newt, Niblet, Octoquad, Ojagwers, Old One, redwitch, Scourge, ShadowQuest, Shan, slayerdaddy, Thoin, Trinity, VampSlayer, VanHelsing, Watchers Pet, wolfguard, Zeus, white wings, wiccachick, The Birthday Gnome (you bring birthday fun every day!) The wise people = Old Man Fan, Mrs Beasley, valMichael (you guys know everything!), and anyone else I've missed!


"Welcome to the Hellmouth: Because you are the Slayer. Into each generation a Slayer is born, one girl in all the world, a Chosen One, one born with the strength and skill to hunt the vampires..."

Buffy: (smiling at Spike) "Hi, honey. I'm home." (attacks him) "You know what? It's good to be me." (Halloween)
Xander: "Clearly the hellmouths answer to what do you get a slayer who has everything" (Surprise)
Willow: (to Oz) "I was waiting. I feel like some part of me will always be waiting for you. Like if I'm old and blue-haired, and I turn the corner in Istanbul and there you are, I won't be surprised. Because... you're with me, you know?" (New Moon Rising)
Angel:"It's a claddagh ring. The hands represent friendship, the crown represents loyalty... and the heart... Well, you know... Wear it with the heart pointing towards you. It means you belong to somebody." (Surprise)
Giles: "And I myself will be wearing pink taffeta as chenille would not go with my complexion. Can we *please* talk about the Ascension?" (The Prom)
Faith: (to Buffy) "Are you protecting vampires? Are you the bad slayer now? Am I the good slayer now?" (Dirty Girls)
Spike:"Love isn't brains, children, it's blood..." (clasps his chest) "blood screaming inside you to work its will. *I* may be love's *****, but at least *I'm* man enough to admit it." (Lovers Walk)

City of : "Los Angeles. You see it at night and it shines. A beacon. People are drawn to it. People and other things. They come for all sorts of reasons. My reason? No surprise there. It started with a girl."

Angel: (to Lindsey) "I'm just here to say 'bon voyage'. Don't come back." (Dead End)
Cordelia: (to Wesley) "What? That she'd try to manoeuvre Angel into an exchange of bodily fluids in order to make herself eternally young and beautiful, thus saving her failing career? Gee, now that you mention it." (Eternity)
Wesley: "I had my throat cut and all my friends abandoned me." (Spin the Bottle)
Gunn: (to Angel) "You enjoying your visit to nineteen seventy three?" (Picks up a memo pad) "I meant her message pad." (Epiphany)
Fred: (to her parents) "Angel's the champion, and Wesley's the brains of the operation, Gunn's the muscle and Cordy's the heart, and I'm..." (Fredless)
Lorne: (to Angel) "What's to understand? You think you're the first guy who ever rolled over, saw what was lying next to him and went 'Guyeah!' And you're not. Believe me. - It's called a moment of clarity, my lamb. And you've just had one." (Epiphany) RIP Andy Hallett
Lindsey:"The key to Wolfram and Hart: don't let them make you play their game. You gotta make them play yours." (Dead End)



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Feb 9 14:37:00 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay halfrek!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!

Not sure the Opening Ceremonies were worth getting up at 4 am, but at least I got a nice view of the Tonga flag bearer.



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lostinamerica says:
(Fri Feb 9 13:29:45 2018 73.58.128.92)
Ebdim9th--LOL, I'm also developing a phobia of phobias ;)

One of the groups I volunteer with is dealing with the question of comfort
animals--I understand people may have certain issues but I keep going back to. .
.what did people who had these issues do back in the day?


Yay! halfrek!



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Ebdim9th says:
(Fri Feb 9 13:07:13 2018 174.235.140.27)
Yayyyy Halfrek!!!!!

So which of those phobias on that list are real? I feel an irrational fear of being taken in by false phobia lists coming on....



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Feb 9 12:03:40 2018 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for halfrek!

yay halfrek!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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Maverick says:
(Fri Feb 9 11:37:28 2018 68.51.139.52)
wolfguard: Google phobia's, philia's, and mania's, and you get lots of richly complicated words.


Maverick


Relax




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white wings says:
(Fri Feb 9 07:31:15 2018 70.112.135.184)
wolfguard - Made it to bed, posting from same, bleary-eyed. *g*

Aaack, pumps and rifles aren't that familiar to me, so I didn't remember that it ejects, loads, AND
cocks the trigger. But your eagle eye did not see it racked a third time. Was there a deus ex rifleus
that cocked it?

But in the event that your concentration relaxed after the live round was ejected, we have a situation
where the hunter only loaded three rounds. I have to say that going after two slayers (as he thought)
with only three rounds was really stupid. He kind of deserved the bear trap for that alone.

Spelling comes from the Land of Nod. I tried, at least a little. ;-)



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Feb 9 06:47:59 2018 71.56.125.67)
White Wings,

Good catch - Buffy not ejecting the shell Cordelia fired. Now I'm wondering
if she did .... going to have to watch again. WAIT! Follow ...

- Cordelia fires rifle.

BOOM! Kills bottle.

BUFFY
Cordelia - the spatula.

- Cordelia tosses the rifle to Buffy.

- Buffy points the rifle at demon and pulls the trigger.

- Audible "click" (Which means the action was racked or the hammer/striker
would not have gone "click")


As to the rifle, I'm thinking it may have been a Remington 760
("Woodmaster"?). But this in part because I can only recall four center-fire
pump action rifles and three of them don't look like the one in the scene.



WG



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white wings says:
(Fri Feb 9 05:12:43 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay seniorslayer!

Happy Birthday Betty, copaceticsoul, Everdawn, Motorcycle Au Pair Boy, Princess Naunie, Seth Green, and turtlex!

wolfguard - So there were three shells involved? The one the hunter fired and Buffy ejected, the live round that Buffy ejected to project menace, and the one Cordy fired? Then Buffy took the rifle (it was a rifle, not a shotgun, right?), and since she didn't rack the pump, she probably clicked on the spent shell. So that second operation of the pump, though stupid, probably didn't affect the result. If she had ejected Cordy's spent shell, then either the chamber was empty or the shell was defective. But by your account, that didn't happen. Buffy simply failed to eject the spent shell/reload, which was even stupider than the other stupid action.

p.s. Thanks for rewatching.


Christopher Marlowe - Quiet in here, but at least none of the funny white stuff. *g*

Hate to post and flit, but I'm falling asleep and hope to make it to my bed. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Feb 9 03:00:14 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

I do not know. I believe a phobia becomes a problem when a person expends an
unreasonable amount of effort in avoiding the object of fear. OTOH, the person
may think it quite reasonable. If so, then it would seem others are judging
the person's 'sanity' based on their own standards. Is this right? *g*

Of course, there are people who know their phobias are out-of-sync with
reality, but nevertheless the phobias drive their behavior. Isn't this true of
all sorts of undesirable feelings, thoughts, and behaviors? We may want them
to go away, but we seem relatively powerless in making it happen.

I think this in part speaks to how much of what happens in the brain is beyond
conscious awareness or control.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Feb 9 02:44:46 2018 209.159.255.231)
And just as wintery in here!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Feb 8 23:46:32 2018 209.159.255.231)
Brr...cold and snowy out there.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Feb 8 22:56:35 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Phobias
Question: What do you fear if you have rhabdophobia?
Answer: magic

Trivia Fearless: notsoshygirl


Trivia PHobics: Agent Cooper, wolfguard!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Feb 8 22:12:42 2018 209.159.255.231)
Agent Cooper, DaddyCatALSO I think there is desire to come up with interesting names for phobias.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu Feb 8 21:35:55 2018 199.127.148.10)
Agent Cooper And they left out hypengyophobia, fear of responsibility



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Feb 8 20:41:03 2018 165.225.38.71)
I with Chris Marlowe. When I look at the list of supposedly real phobias, I think..um no. About maybe one quarter of these are real.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu Feb 8 20:23:34 2018 199.127.148.10)
Christopher Marlowe wolfguard notsoShyGirl OldManFan PEr Wikipedia "A phobia is a type of anxiety disorder, defined by a persistent fear of an object or situation.[1] The phobia typically results in a rapid onset of fear and is present for more than six months.[1] The affected person will go to great lengths to avoid the situation or object, typically to a degree greater than the actual danger posed.[1] If the feared object or situation cannot be avoided, the affected person will have significant distress" My ex was like this with injections and IVs.
I wonder if any form of rhabdophobia means simple fear of medium-sized sticks.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Feb 8 19:41:43 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I am somewhat skeptical of the long list of phobias. How severe does a fear have to be to be considered a phobia?



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Feb 8 19:09:42 2018 71.56.125.67)
Trivia Girl,

What do you fear if you have rhabdophobia?

Consult a dictionary? :)

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Feb 8 19:03:41 2018 165.225.38.71)
Trivia Girl: Fear of words without enough vowels in them.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Feb 8 18:36:12 2018 209.159.255.231)
OldManFan But it is fascinating nevertheless! *g*



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OldManFan says:
(Thu Feb 8 18:25:30 2018 24.3.106.169)
notsoShyGirl - that's way more than I needed to know. *g

OMF



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu Feb 8 15:43:28 2018 206.124.19.186)
Trivia Girl
Rhabdo is a latin word meaning rod and fear of a rod or rhabdophobia can mean one of three things.

First this could mean fear of being severely punished. This image of being punished could be due to stories in the past of people being hit repeatedly by a cane or stick as punishment or some that were even caned-to-death. This gruesome image could have cause rhabdophobia in some persons.

Another meaning of rhabdophobia is the fear of being criticized. People may sometimes find criticism as something that can help them improve themselves or their performance at work but rhabdophobes will find this instead humiliating and degrading to be criticized and these are people who usually take criticisms poorly or may even hate the person who criticized them.

Lastly, rhabdophobia can be used to define the fear of the magic wand, it being usually in the form of a rod and this fear could be brought about by the fear of magic per se.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Feb 8 15:36:43 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Phobias
Question: What do you fear if you have rhabdophobia?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Feb 8 14:47:17 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Thursday, February 8th 2018 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7) Birthdays!


Betty
copaceticsoul
Everdawn
Motorcycle Au Pair Boy
Princess Naunie
Seth Green as Oz Osbourne
turtlex

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Betty, copaceticsoul, Everdawn, Motorcycle Au Pair Boy, Princess Naunie, Seth Green, turtlex!



And I wonder, what possible catastrophe came crashing down from heaven and brought this dashing stranger to tears? Drusilla, 'Fool for Love''''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Feb 8 14:33:21 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay seniorslayer!


Happy CD Thursday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Feb 8 13:17:38 2018 73.58.128.92)
Yay! seniorslayer!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Feb 8 12:04:13 2018 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for seniorslayer!

yay seniorslayer!


Happy CD Thursday!



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Feb 8 07:19:12 2018 71.56.125.67)
Yay the Sci-fi Bard!

Belated Yay Mrs. Beasley!



DaddyCatALSO,

It's a great episode. So many memories.


Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question

Which episode, either show, do you think resulted in the most Bronze
arguments?


The first two episodes that came to mind - Grave and Becoming
2
. The former prompted the debate over what Spike was seeking from the
demon - his soul or the removal of the chip. The latter raised the question
- Was Xander right in lying to Buffy about Willow's message?

And then I remember the longest running argument in the Bronze - The BBS:
alive or dead? I just can't remember the episode. Passion?


Belated Deadguy Memorial Buffy Tuesday Question

Some characters had no trouble believing in vampires, some had trouble
accepting it even after encountering one - which camp do you think you would
fall in?


I can accept people believing they are vampires, even to the extent of
drinking blood. I'd have a hard time believing in jossyverse vampires.



Good Night to All

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Feb 8 05:38:25 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I've seen a fair number of TED Talks, but I know I've always enjoyed them, no matter what the topic.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Feb 8 03:03:31 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,


I can understand the restriction on using the talks to advertise or market a
product. I think one is treading into censorship in restricting talk on
politics or religion. Defending the practice in recourse to the adjective,
inflammatory, seems to shunt potentially important ideas aside.1

As to pseudoscience, an independently (?) sponsored Ted talk done by Graham
Hancock included a warning it did not meet Ted standards. The talk is titled
~ Is history built on a foundation of sand? When I was searching for his
name, one of the results said something about his talk on consciousness
being banned.

In introducing plate tectonics one text said the evidence for it arose so
quickly that if one had said they thought the theory was sound, when
applying for graduate school in the early 60s, then they would likely have
been declined. OTOH, had the person said they though the theory was weak
when applying in the late 60s, then they would have been declined.

Having said this, I don't know that the plate tectonic theory of the early
60s fit the criteria for pseudo-science - it may just have been that most
geology professors at that time believed much more evidence was needed.

OTO-OH, now and then I see some physicist saying this-or-that theory is
beyond the pale because it cannot be tested. OTOO-OH, one day we may find
ways to test such theories.

1 Read a few minutes ago that TED = technology, entertainment,
design; however, the talks have expanded since the beginning to include most
anything interesting.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Feb 8 01:52:42 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I think other than the time requirement.

No pseudoscience
No commercial agenda
No inflammatory political or religious agenda.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Feb 8 00:59:15 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

I have to ponder on it. Do the TED sponsors have any rules of guidelines one
must follow? Somewhere I heard or read they like to keep talks under 18
minutes.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Feb 7 23:40:11 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard If you were to give a TED Talk, what would you talk about?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Feb 7 22:14:55 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit[/b]

Category: Angel
Question: Who does Faith torture in Five by Five?
Answer: Wesley

Trivia Top Torturer: notsoShyGirl

[b[]Agent Cooper[/b] It's nice and sunny here!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed Feb 7 17:38:44 2018 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard white wings Oh, good, my favorite sport again. Yes, fighting the Miquot and seeking help, Buffy says, peer-to-peer-interaction-voice but showing the tension/excitement of the fight, "Cor, the gun!" Cordelia grabs it and fires wildly. Buffy's voice shifts into exhausted-but-not-angry-parent/or/teacher mode and says "Cordelia, the spatula." The change of name being part and parcel in the change of tone*g.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Feb 7 17:05:45 2018 165.225.38.71)
Oh gee. Now we get to go home at 4 o'clock. ...IF we work through lunch. Great.

There HAS to be a hellmouth under this place.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Feb 7 16:03:41 2018 165.225.38.71)
Trivia Girl: Everybody!

Chris Marlowe: Well, it's hard to slam your briefcase on the desk in a phone interview. And obviously, that is a loser company that doesn't want to succeed. Idiots! They'll be sorry.

We're having a pretty good snowstorm today. Snow didn't start till 9:30 or so, but all schools are closed. Most businesses too. Driving in, I was one of the few people on the road. Feels like we're the only ones working today. They'll probably let us go eventually, but usually that's when it's too late and the roads suck already. ;-/



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Feb 7 15:58:24 2018 206.124.19.186)
Trivia Girl
Wesley



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Feb 7 14:47:59 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit[/I]

Category: Angel
Question: Who does Faith torture in Five by Five?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Feb 7 14:31:14 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Wednesday, February 7th 2018 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Celtique
Schoolgirl
Theo86
Ventrue

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Celtique, Schoolgirl, Theo86, Ventrue!



I'm fairly certain I said no interruptions. Buffy, 'Checkpoint'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Feb 7 14:05:52 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay the sci-fi bard!

deadguy qod - I think Restless. There was just so much to unpack in that episode.


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Feb 7 12:18:15 2018 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for the sci-fi bard!

yay the sci-fi bard!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

postings boards - a phenomena of the past

which episode, either show, do you think resulted in the most bronze arguments?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Wed Feb 7 11:31:33 2018 73.58.128.92)
ChristopherMarlowe--What's a TedX talk, something to give you
ideas for your job search?

Maverick has a good point--I don't have Facebook, but don't you need to
use certain privacy settings so someone just Googling and looking you up, say an
employer, sees a nice, boring person that no one could have an issue with? Or do
what all the kids do, have two accounts, one public and one private ;)



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Feb 7 06:59:12 2018 71.56.125.67)
Christopher Marlowe,

What sort of change?


White Wings,

I've just re-watched the relevant scenes in Homecoming. Outline ...

- Cordelia warns Buffy of bear-trap.
- Buffy pushes Cordelia out of the line of fire of hunter.
- Buffy throws bear-trap at hunter hitting him in head causing him to
stumble into another bear-trap.
- Buffy takes and points rifle at hunter demanding he tell her who was after
them. To emphasize the point she racks the pump.

(Spot on B. This ejects the empty case and chambers new round)

- Yellow demon throws knife at Buffy and Cordelia and they skedaddle.
- Buffy and Cordelia go inside cabin.

Heart-to-Heart Talk *g*

- Buffy finishes explaining her reason why I want to win homecoming with the
words ~ I look great in a tiara. She emphasizes this by again racking the
rifle.

(Bad move B. You just ejected a live round)

- Yellow demon guy busts through the window knocking Buffy down - she loses
the rifle. Fighty Fight commences.

- Cordelia attacks Yellow Demon guy from behind with a spatula.

BUFFY
~ Cor, the gun!

- Cordelia picks up the rifle points it the general direction of the demon
and fires. Bullet shatters glass bottle on shelf.

BUFFY
~ Cor, the spatula!

- Now Buffy grabs the rifle and aims it at the advancing demon.

"Click"


Summary: Buffy's first racking of the pump was tactically sound. Buffy'
second racking of the pump was STUPID and can be only explained as SMG
heeding the director/writer's need for a visual accompaniment to her words.

*g*



WG



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white wings says:
(Wed Feb 7 06:53:14 2018 70.112.135.184)
wolfguard - Oh, as usual, dear. It appears that my Oldtimer's is advancing. Now that you
have described the Homecoming scene, I remember it. I don't remember associating operating the
pump with the subsequent empty chamber, probably because I don't think of pumps as having only
two rounds. After your description, it seems very clear. *g*. They used the sound of the pump for
effect, and then highlighted her inexperience, and possibly also the dangerous unreliability of guns
(from their POV). They achieved a comic effect, and then deprived her of the weapon, sending her
back to sharp sticks, or in this case, a spatula.

I like a well-balanced side by side double myself, preferably with a mechanical trigger. Sidelocks
and engraving preferred, with a silver or case-hardened receiver. Pump guns, though said to be
reliable (usually) weren't part of my world. Or my world 40ish years ago. Of course I was only slaying
skeets, more than I missed. *g*



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Feb 7 05:32:47 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard No, I'm not arguing against, I'm arguing for it. Instead of 'ideas worth spreading' it would be 'change worth spreading'.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Feb 7 04:49:05 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Pushes back? As in arguing against the change?


Maverick,

News comment too broad for me to take a position at this time. On another
topic, thanks for the link advice.


White Wings,

The rifle barrel I remember Buffy bending was the werewolf hunter's in
Phases (Cain? Caine?). In Homecoming Buffy takes down the
hunter character and keeps his pump action rifle. Later she and Cordelia
take refuge in a cabin where Buffy says something along the lines of ~
welcome to my life~ and reinforces it by operating the pump. The hunter had
fired at her, but I don't remember if it was shown whether or not he
operated the pump after doing so. If he had not, then Buffy did good - she
ejected the shell and had there been another round in the magazine would
have chambered it ...

But, when the yellow demon gets in the cabin, Buffy aims and squeezes the
trigger - "click". So Buffy's boo-boo was not checking the weapon's state
after taking it. Worst, if the hunter did operate the pump after shooting at
Buffy, then when Buffy did the same she ejected a live round - which she
then did not have to fire at the yellow demon.


WG



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Maverick says:
(Wed Feb 7 04:30:50 2018 68.51.139.52)
Christopher Marlowe: You already know what I'm going to say, or maybe not. I like your new Facebook picture. AND so you went in person to a phone interview? Shows initiative, methinks. Someone else was selected or you were not? Now, don't make me tell you all the things that could go wrong with that company and their tentative hiring decision. Send the person who interviewed you a thank you letter for the interview. Stand out from the crowd. Be memorable AND exhibit good etiquette. And your Facebook page is much better but still shows you as being an activist. I don't think businesses desire to hire activists; it's too hard making a profit, nowadays, and staying IN business, so they don't need distractions.


Wolfguard: The thing is that so much of what passes for "news" or "reports" or "criticisms" nowadays in the Mainstream Press are really just slams at Trump. Trump was never supposed to win and they were pulling stunts under Obama that would have been glossed over under Hillary (who probably would have given a lot of judgeships as rewards) but with Trump in there, even as ineffective as he's been in investigating the investigators, they risk exposure AND prison time. I'm talking the FBI and other Justice bigwigs.


Maverick


Wild Horses




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white wings says:
(Wed Feb 7 04:20:55 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay Mrs.Beasley!


Happy Birthday Allison, Bonfire Toffee, Fruitface, La Timide, and nephy!

DaddyCatALSO - I also have difficulty visualizing an acrylic wandering around Turkey (or anywhere), but it was fun to say. *g*

Christopher Marlowe - Let us draw a veil over the last interview and look forward to the next. But they couldn't fault you for enthusiasm.

wolfguard - She bent the barrel (barrels? Was it a double rifle?). That made me flinch at the time. Poor rifle.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Feb 7 03:42:27 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Sorta...one of the tenets of Ted Talks is 'an idea worth spreading'

My talk pushes that back a little, not just an idea, but that a 'change worth spreading'.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Feb 7 03:06:18 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Do you have topic in mind for the Ted Talk?

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Feb 7 02:58:02 2018 209.159.255.231)
lostinamerica I'm telling myself I didnt' really want that job anyways as I knew I didn't have much of a shot.

I've done something crazy instead and signed up to try to do a TedX talk.



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lostinamerica says:
(Wed Feb 7 02:47:24 2018 73.58.128.92)
ChristopherMarlowe--Oh,
so sorry, hang in there!


Yay! mrs.beasley!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Feb 7 01:52:44 2018 209.159.255.231)
I opted for Skinny Cow, rather than
Ben and Jerry tonight.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Feb 7 00:52:50 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Which episode has
monsters competing in the
'SlayerFest '98"?
Answer: Homecoming

Trivia Slayers: notsoShyGirl,
Agent Cooper, wolfguard!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Feb 6 23:23:31 2018 209.159.255.231)
Agent Cooper I made the
mistake of showing up in person for
a phone interview. *winces* That
may have sunk my chances right
there as I got an email 2 hours
later that I was not selected for
the position!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Feb 6 20:48:44 2018 165.225.38.71)
Trivia Girl - Homecoming. And I actually knew that one for reals without googling or looking at Notsoshygirl's answer.

How was the interview? Did you walk in, ignore the handshake and just slam your briefcase on the desk, look the boss in the eye and say, "Look, let's cut to the chase. Do you want this company to succeed or not??"

Cuz that's what I would do. Well, not actually, but still.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Feb 6 20:18:04 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Now I have to watch it again myself!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Feb 6 19:08:52 2018 71.56.125.67)
Trivia Girl,

Homecoming

Counter-Trivia -

What did Buffy do silly with the rifle?

I hope my memory is correct on this. OTOH, it's a good reason to
rewatch the episode later tonight. *g*



WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Feb 6 18:48:21 2018 165.225.38.71)
If something is truly unknown, how can we really know it is unknown?

-Brother Silence



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Feb 6 18:41:30 2018 165.225.38.71)
Chris Marlowe- Nail It!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Feb 6 17:57:49 2018 209.159.255.231)
Okay, on my way to an interview! The first one I've gotten this month! Maybe I can double my interviews this month to TWO!!!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Feb 6 17:37:03 2018 199.127.148.10)
white wings Somehow the term "native acrylics" fails to conjure a picture for me....



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Feb 6 15:52:32 2018 206.124.19.186)
Trivia Girl
Homecoming



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Feb 6 15:40:24 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Which episode has monsters competing in the 'SlayerFest '98"?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Feb 6 14:44:43 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Tuesday, February 6th 2018 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


Allison
Bonfire Toffee
Fruitface
La Timide
nephy

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Allison, Bonfire Toffee, Fruitface, La Timide, nephy!



I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly is a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid. Early, 'Objects In Space'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Feb 6 14:36:08 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay mrs.beasley!

deadguy qod

Oh, I would be one of the biggest skeptics. I probably wouldn't believe in zombies either, which is why I wouldn't survive an apocalypse!


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Feb 6 12:53:36 2018 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for mrs.beasley

yay mrs.beasley!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

the sunnydale skeptics society - some of our members even doubt we exist

some characters had no trouble believing in vampires, some had trouble accepting it even after encountering one... which camp do you think you would fall in?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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white wings says:
(Tue Feb 6 05:00:44 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay Ojagwers!

Happy Birthday Django24, Evalie, Oldramoth, Robin Sachs, The Man from P.A.R.I.S., and Vlad!

Christopher Marlowe - I hope that you and Pierre had fun. *g*

Maverick - The who?what? googles Yes, remarkable physical feats.

wolfguard - Yes, I'd say that losing a job would feel a lot like hurt. I don't like to see anyone losing a job, whether solar manufacturer, solar installer or coal miner. It does happen in a capitalist society, though. There are a handful of solar manufacturers in this country. They don't manufacture the entire supply chain. I think at least three are Chinese owned. Two are headquartered in Canada. One or two are German. What is Tesla? That leaves perhaps two or three that are actually US owned and operated. This information brought to you by a quick google. Of course there was the ill-fated Solyndra, but I think that was more of a payback for campaign contributions than interest in US manufacturing. *g*

Anyway, some of the ones that didn't ask for the tariff said it would help them, and some of the installers said they would probably be able to adjust. It's also notable that the tariff declines over time and exempts some of the constituents of the panels up to a certain threshold. It has the feel of a shot across the bow to the Chinese, who have been going to serious lengths to get that product into this country at a cost to any locally based manufacturers, and to the world to say we will act if we deem it necessary, just as other countries have acted. If all of the US solar panel manufacturers are driven out of business, then an industry researching/building/selling an energy source is gone and we are totally dependent on the Chinese. It's a balancing act of priorities and negotiations. Round and round it goes, where it stops, nobody knows. Trump appears to want more US based manufacturing of all kinds, and has been doing a lot of wheeling and dealing to get it back or get it started.

I was looking at yarn (which I have NO business looking at, but that's another story of interest only to hobbyists) and I noticed that some really pretty acrylic yarn was made in Turkey. I would associate various wools with Turkey, but I didn't think that acrylics were native to the region. There's definitely some global traffic going on in that manufacturing stream.

Also, I'm very interested in the idea of using windows to collect solar energy, but I'm not sure it's gone beyond the point of proving the concept.



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Maverick says:
(Tue Feb 6 04:52:15 2018 68.51.139.52)
Wolfguard: No, I told you there are too many unknowns and then I gave you a sample listing of the unknowns. There are more--I just got tired. I wanted to read other things like Cancer Vaccine


For you to make a link on
https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/01/27/will-trump-give-sunpower-
corporation-a-lifeline.aspx
just start [a href="https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/01/27/will-trump-give-sunpower-
corporation-a-lifeline.aspx"]Will Trump Give Sunpower a Lifeline?[/a]


then just go to the c of the word corporation and backspace over that hidden line break and you get
Will Trump Give Sunpower a Lifeline? Then you can "preview" it to see if it's going to work.


Maverick


Lady Marmalade




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Feb 6 04:48:45 2018 209.159.255.231)
Finally home!!!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Feb 6 04:19:39 2018 4.28.180.2)
~ SEIA Statement on President Trump's Remarks at Davos (January 26, 2018)

WASHINGTON, D.C. - Following is statement by Abigail Ross Hopper, president
and CEO of the Solar Energy Industries Association (SEIA) on President
Trumps speech in Davos, Switzerland today:

"We share President Trumps goal of free and fair trade and we would support
any efforts toward a negotiated solution to solar trade issues. However, his
decision to impose punishing tariffs are not consistent with his goal of
putting America First. These tariffs do not protect the interests of our
country, our companies, and our workers. Quite the contrary, American
companies will be forced to scale back investment, layoff workers and, in
some cases, shutter operations because of these tariffs. We look forward to
working with the president, members of Congress and all stakeholders to
reduce or moderate the negative effects of the presidents solar tariff
decision. Meanwhile, we face the loss of 23,000 jobs and the cancellation of
billions of dollars worth of solar projects with virtually no additional job
creation or reduction of the trade deficit."



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Feb 6 04:01:01 2018 4.28.180.2)
The following is a link to an article ~ Will Trump Give SunPower Corporation a
Lifeline?


https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/01/27/will-trump-give-sunpower-
corporation-a-lifeline.aspx



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Feb 6 03:49:34 2018 4.28.180.2)
Edited: Tue Feb 6 03:54:55 2018
Suniva

The above is one of the two American-based (foreign owned) solar cell
manufacturers. Source is Wikipedia.


SolarWorld

The other company.



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Feb 6 03:35:22 2018 4.28.180.2)
Edited: Tue Feb 6 03:37:02 2018
Maverick,

Just made a list of your speculations in your last post to me and then looked
back at your opening which included, "...as there are too many factual
unknowns to really evaluate anything about it...
.

You don't want to argue and you think there are too many unknowns to evaluate
anything and yet so many spitballs throw at the wall seeing if one will stick.
*g*


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Feb 6 03:11:40 2018 4.28.180.2)
Edited: Tue Feb 6 03:12:05 2018
Christopher Marlowe,

Driving back at night?


Maverick,

You don't want to get in an argument and then off you go? *g* For now, I think
people who have lost their jobs might use "hurt" to describe their condition.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Feb 6 01:28:26 2018 174.217.9.166)
Wolfguard

The roads were not bad. Parts were
pretty nasty, but it was fairly
safe driving.

I am heading back now.

Oldmanfan

Lol! I didn't think of that! You
are also right with your trivia



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Maverick says:
(Tue Feb 6 00:53:17 2018 68.51.139.52)
Trivia Girl: Foster Grant Brooks


Wolfguard: I don't want to get into this argument as there are too many factual unknowns to really evaluate anything about it, but with the solar panels thingy, it is truly an "emotional" statement to say the installers will be HURT. Is that like a broken bone or a bloody nose or a hangnail? Could it be that the 2,000 employees making solar panels in the states are such competition that the foreign exporters to the states have reduced their prices to "dump" their product on the U.S. market to squeeze the U.S. manufacturers out of existence (so the foreigners can then RAISE their prices, having no domestic competition)? It seems to me that people having solar panels installed on their homes are rather upscale people who can afford certain pricing anomalies. Also that installers CAN cut their margins to make a deal. How much difference in pricing per panel? How many Installers does the 250,000 employees represent? 10,000 or 1? How many companies does the 2,000 employees represent? How many people work in the foreign countries manufacturing these panels? If you were an installer, would you say you were being hurt even if it queered one deal? Probably yes. No one would prosecute you for lying. If you are the domestic U.S. branch of the solar panel manufacturer (who also, by chance, installs them here), wouldn't it behoove you to make the loudest stink? How could a foreign company producing solar panels by hand (that also has to pay to ship them to the U.S.) compete price-wise and quality-wise with a U.S. manufacturer that is highly automated? I question the price advantage that would allow them to fairly compete. This sounds like a bogus controversy. I keep remembering the Obama Solyndra scandal that made someone rich even though they went bankrupt despite receiving millions in U.S. loans. Copy: white wings


white wings: The utter audaciousness and expansive "love" of Philippe Petit so thoroughly captivates me. I have never (although I may have forgotten much) had that much control over my muscles and/or co-ordination and/or confidence. It's just a wonderful true story, and it is tragically underlined by the hateful and small-minded resentment and envy of those Muslims who attacked those buildings as symbols of our kind and freedom-loving country. It's a unique story of Good versus Evil writ large.


Maverick


Midnight Cowboy




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wolfguard says:
(Tue Feb 6 00:05:17 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

A long, brutal drive in the snow (?).


WG



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OldManFan says:
(Mon Feb 5 22:25:30 2018 24.3.106.169)
Christopher Marlowe - that sounds dirty. *g

OMF



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Feb 5 21:59:19 2018 174.217.25.214)
I am in Pierre!!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Feb 5 18:45:48 2018 174.217.39.207)
Lostinamerica

Pretty much. The puppies cavort in
faux stadium with lots of toys.
There are announcers who call the
'action'. On the field. There are
also segments about the pups as
well as various pieces on the
efforts rescue organization.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Mon Feb 5 15:33:38 2018 199.127.148.10)
Back in the alte 60s and through the 70s, when the 76ers and FLyers were always close to the top (and when basketball a dn hockey were still regarded as significant sports) people in FLuffya started calling it "Title Town," cemented by the 1980 World Series win. 1980-81 was also the first NFC title in a long time, but a Super Bowl *win* remained the crucial lacuna in the nickname. That's been handled now



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lostinamerica says:
(Mon Feb 5 13:29:17 2018 73.58.128.92)
Congrats Eagles! Nice to see
someone else win for a change ;)



ChristopherMarlowe--I've
never seen the Puppy Bowl--is it
just a bunch of puppies playing?


Yay! Ojagwers!


Belated Happy Super Bowl
Birthday Safarigirl!



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OldManFan says:
(Mon Feb 5 13:25:51 2018 24.3.106.169)
Trivia Girl - Gerald Ford.

OMF



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Feb 5 13:19:52 2018 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for ojagwers!

yay ojagwers!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Feb 5 12:49:22 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Quotes
Question: Who said of three-martini lunches "Where else can you get an earful, a bellyful and a snootful"?



UPDATE: I will be offline off and on for most of the day and night. Traveling to Pierre today to give some legislators and earful!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Feb 5 12:43:56 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Monday, February 5th 2018 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


Django24
Evalie
Oldramoth
Robin Sachs as Ethan Rayne
The Man from P.A.R.I.S.
Vlad

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Django24, Evalie, Oldramoth, Robin Sachs, The Man from P.A.R.I.S., Vlad, SunnyD!



Buffy: He ran away, right? Giles: Sort of, more. turned and swept out majestically, I suppose. Said I didn't concern him. Buffy: So a mythic triumph over a completely indifferent foe? Giles: Well, I'm not dead or unconscious, so I say bravo for me. 'The Replacement'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Feb 5 07:07:09 2018 71.56.125.67)
White Wings,

I think in responding to parts of each others' post, the key point has been
lost. I will restate it.

Two foreign-owned companies that made solar panels in the US went to US
International Trade Commission complaining they could not compete with
imported solar panels. US solar panel manufacturing is highly automated,
employing ~2,000 people.1

Around 250,000 Americans are employed installing solar panel systems.
2 Many of these companies use imported solar panels and have said
they could/will be hurt by the resulting rise in solar panel prices caused
by the tariff.

Making a decision on trade tariffs involves Benefits-Costs analysis, one of
which is 2,000 workers vs 250,000 workers.

More later

1 Around 38,000 Americans are involved in manufacturing solar
technologies.

2 System: panel, inverters, controls, etc.



WG



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white wings says:
(Mon Feb 5 06:11:55 2018 70.112.135.184)
Happy Birthday Chrysanthemum, Bastion Ridley, Kayak Tom, Clattering, Maryloye, Ripley, Safarigirl, and Skulkraker!

Wow! Four of those were actually posting when I first started. Ah, memories!

wolfguard - The two companies in discussion, the ones making solar panels in the US, are both foreign own - Chinese and German. As long as they are in the US they provide jobs and taxes, but whatever technology they develop belongs to them. Either one could leave the states tomorrow. Well, that is true enough, but the technology of solar panels in general is not unknown. If two companies can make a living with solar panels, others might start or keep going. And the German one is at least a company owned by citizens of an allied country.

As for the phrase, weeelll, you seemed to mean it, unless I misunderstood the seemed part. Not that I actually care so much, it's just conversation. *g*

Technically, I said (and you quoted me in an earlier post) Or do we just want to flap our hands and say it's too complicated to deal with, and woe is us?
To which you replied: That's what we're doing - just with a snarl.

Christopher Marlowe - How did the Puppy Bowl go?

I'm going to bed. All tuckered out from garden work and stuff, and it's best I go while I can.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Feb 5 02:06:25 2018 209.159.255.231)
The Superbowl Halftime Show is over, I can safely go back to the Puppy Bowl!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Feb 4 19:55:57 2018 209.159.255.231)
Go team!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Feb 4 16:40:31 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Sunday, February 4th 2018 C.E.
Happy SuperBowl Sunday!

We have EIGHT (8) Birthdays!


Chrysanthemum
Bastion Ridley
Kayak Tom
Clattering
Maryloye
Ripley
Safarigirl
Skulkraker

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Chrysanthemum, Bastion Ridley, Kayak Tom, Clattering, Maryloye, Ripley, Safarigirl, Skulkraker!



What should I do, then? Send her a gift? Sacrifice? Unholy fruit basket?
Angel, 'Ground State''


to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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lostinamerica says:
(Sun Feb 4 13:09:31 2018 73.58.128.92)
Belated Yay! Foot Tapper!



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Feb 4 10:11:08 2018 71.56.125.67)
The system is not corrupt. Corruption is the system.


"There is no education in a second kick of a mule." - Mitch McConnell


Who said?

"By a continuing process of inflation, Governments can confiscate,
secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens.
By this method they not only confiscate, but they confiscate
arbitrarily; and, while the process impoverishes many, it actually
enriches some...
(emphasis in the original)


Beep Me


*g*


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Feb 4 04:40:54 2018 71.56.125.67)
Christopher Marlowe,

The Alienist

On TNT, Mondays at 9PM Eastern


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Feb 4 04:01:53 2018 209.159.255.231)
Yeaah....NFL Honors!! The only football I'll be watching this weekend.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Feb 3 23:55:45 2018 209.159.255.231)
hereabouts...



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ChristopherMarlowe;farrior says:
(Sat Feb 3 20:08:54 2018 209.159.255.231)
Spent most of the morning reading a
book, The Alienist, as I saw
there was a tv series adapted from
it.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Feb 3 18:04:41 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Saturday, February 4th 2018 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Buffycool
Lamby
Lurker Beth
MsEdith

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Buffycool, Lamby, Lurker Beth, MsEdith!



Gunn: Well, how horrible is this thing? Lorne: I haven't read the Book of Revelations lately, but if I was searching for adjectives, I'd probably start there. 'Slouching Toward Bethlehem'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Feb 3 04:12:11 2018 4.28.180.2)
Maverick,

Before Windows 10, I was also using Firefox. I may well go back to it.


White Wings,

The two companies in discussion, the ones making solar panels in the US, are
both foreign own - Chinese and German. As long as they are in the US they
provide jobs and taxes, but whatever technology they develop belongs to them.
Either one could leave the states tomorrow.

Yours, ...So we are not just flapping our hands and saying it's too
complicated and doing nothing ...
. I've not said this nor are those who
are against President Trump's trade policy - such as it is. What I have said
is his policy is emotionally based and without much thought.


WG



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white wings says:
(Sat Feb 3 03:28:56 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay Foot Tapper!

Happy Birthday Angel'sUKBabe(A'sUKB), Dale Murph, FSM CDman, hounds, Judydh, Lisa_H, Menkhare, Phoenixflame, and wordweaver!


wolfguard - And the companies making solar panels in this country say the tariff will make a difference to them. It will help them to make us not dependent on China for one type of energy supply. So we are not just flapping our hands and saying it's too complicated and doing nothing. We'll only know in hindsight if what we are doing was helpful, either for the solar industry or as a nudge to other negotiations.

wolfguard (2) I found that if I'd created a nice fat post using IE and then foolishly edited it in Chrome, my lines would be skinnier, and I simply could not fix all of the line breaks. I suspect that Edge, which looks like a Chrome knock-off, behaves the same way. I think the Universe is opposed to fat posts.

Maverick - Thanks for the link. It turned out that I did have that one squirreled away with scraps of the old boards, but it's always fun to be reminded to look at them.

Why do you keep watching that movie if it is so awful? Something like a bird hypnotized by a cobra? Or is it your inner snips and snails and puppy dog tails that like being made ill? *eg*



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ChristopherMarlowe;farrior says:
(Sat Feb 3 02:42:40 2018 209.159.255.231)
Maverick Yep. I tied my
shoes too.



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Maverick says:
(Sat Feb 3 01:45:57 2018 68.51.139.52)
Wolfguard: What Browser are you using? I usually use Firefox. Do you use some Microsoft Browser like, is it called Edge now? I used to like Firefox but they just recently updated their Browser and it has glitches and does not work like it used to. As long as I don't keep too many folders open it's not so bad. Are you using Google Chrome? It seems to me that way back at some point Google was a source of some of those short-lined posts.


Maverick


Jesse's Girl




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wolfguard says:
(Sat Feb 3 01:18:52 2018 4.28.180.2)
Maverick,

When I first started using Window 10, post would appear with newspaper column-
like widths. I discovered if I typed a few letters and then used the preview
window it would let me create longer lines.

A few months later, White Wings explained how I could transform a
narrow column into a wider one by ~backspacing letters into the line above (I
imagine this might effect the line-break code?). Most of the time I use the
preview method, but if the lines are too short, then I'll use the backspace
method.

Unfortunately even in the preview box method some links are too long and
backspacing appears not to work.


WG



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Maverick says:
(Sat Feb 3 01:06:26 2018 68.51.139.52)
Christopher Marlowe: Did you send a Thank You letter?


Maverick


Layla




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Feb 3 00:59:18 2018 209.159.255.231)
MAverick Try to be more condescending, won't you? Maybe if I become too stupid for you, you'll stop giving me 'advice'.



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Maverick says:
(Sat Feb 3 00:42:37 2018 68.51.139.52)
white wings: Here's a link to TV James's Ultimate TV Board, the forerunner of the WB Bronze (originally called The Lounge.)


Wolfguard: I'm not certain why you are getting that shorty wrap thingy, but anytime you DO, there's an extra character inserted by the wrapping program, like a line-break character. I have Windows 10 and if I try to create a link using your example, which looks like this--I just copied it.


https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/30/television-state-of-
the-union-216548
and try to create a link from this, like so:
[a href="https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/30/television-state-of-
the-union-216548"]Televised State of the Union[/a], I don't get what I want, but if I assume that in your example there's an extra character (either after "of-" or before "the" and I just backspaced over it to remove it, I get:
Televised State of the Union. (I went to the word "the" and just backspaced over whatever was there, wiping it out.)


Christopher Marlowe: I have tried to offer you employment seeking advice in the past, but it may have been on one of those days when you decided you were not reading my posts. Would you like me to try to repeat what I had written? I will do that. BTW, if you have had an actual interview with a real human, you owe that person a thank you letter (whether you think you've heard you didn't get the job or what.) This is proper job-hunting etiquette. The thank you letter is usually sent snail mail, although it possibly CAN be sent e-mail, although this is not preferable. In the thank you letter you (well, you can look up what you should write--I suggest you get a copy of "What Color is Your Parachute?")


Okay, Kids: How about a movie that makes you throw up? When I was a kid we would have killed for such a movie (unless it was because of some perverted sex or something.) Perhaps even if it was like a slasher movie, it would be borderline unacceptable, but what if it was just a straightforward movie that just triggered the gag reflex because of special effects and spatial anomalies, etc.? I have such a movie; I just brought the DVD home from the Library. I stars Joseph Gordon-Levitt. When this movie was in the theaters, evidently people (had to) walked out on it and it DID make some sick; it was not popular as a theater event. When I saw it in the theater, it continually made me squirm and did make me want to look away, but it was perhaps the move fascinating movie I have ever seen. I thought it even might give me nightmares, but not so far. The movie is "The Walk" which is a dramatized version of the movie "Man on Wire" which won the Academy Award as a Documentary and it presented the story of the Frenchman, Philippe Petit, who came to the U.S. to put a tightrope between the two towers of the World Trade Center and then he walked across from one to the other and back and when the cops came to arrest him, he, for a time refused to get off the wire. I may have to buy the Blu-Ray version of this movie as the version I brought home mentions that the Blu-Ray has even more Special Features.


Maverick


It's My Life




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wolfguard says:
(Fri Feb 2 23:46:48 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Apparently so. *g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Feb 2 22:08:12 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I trust everyone is having a good afternoon as well. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Feb 2 19:30:37 2018 71.56.125.67)
Christopher Marlowe,

Everyone is having such a good morning at work that they haven't stopped by
the Bronze. *g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Feb 2 18:21:45 2018 209.159.255.231)
I trust everyone is having a good morning?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Feb 2 15:30:43 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Friday, February 2nd, 2018 C.E.

We have NINE (9) Birthdays!


Angel'sUKBabe(A'sUKB)
Dale Murph
FSM CDman
hounds
Judydh
Lisa_H
Menkhare
Phoenixflame
wordweaver

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Angel'sUKBabe(A'sUKB), Dale Murph
FSM CDman, hounds, Judydh, Lisa_H, Menkhare, Phoenixflame, wordweaver!



I'm sorry, dad. You know I would never have tried to save River's life if I had known there was a dinner party at risk. Simon, 'Safe''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Feb 2 14:41:56 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay foot tapper!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Feb 2 12:26:56 2018 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for foot tapper!

yay foot tapper!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Feb 2 04:08:24 2018 4.28.180.2)
White Wings,

A quick response to the part of your post addressing the tariff on solar
panels. The American companies installing solar panels say the tariff will
make a difference to them. It will hurt them.

More on trade later.

....

If the link is less than a line including the description and tags, then it
often works. Over a line, usually not.


WG



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white wings says:
(Fri Feb 2 03:33:43 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay Muffy the Vampire Annoyer!

Happy Birthday deadguy, lilith20000, Morby, Ramoth, TaraAnyaKate4eva, and TVJames!

Aww, TVJames! A name to conjure with.

wolfguard - It looks as though you got the links working. Congratulations.

If "That's what we're doing - just with a snarl"., then why we discussing the tariff as if it will make any appreciable difference? And in fact it may not it may just be a prod in the course of negotiations. But it's not nothing.

"Are you saying governments can produce better products than private companies???" I didn't say anything about better, though it's not impossible. But they can certainly subsidize private companies (or otherwise provide a helpful environment) well enough to make them cheaper. So much so that companies without that support cannot compete. It's not China's fault if we also taxed our companies out the wazoo and forced them to go crazy trying to keep up with regulations and in fact actually cared about things like safety and pensions and insurance and stuff. But when they aren't content to let us hold ourselves back but actively participate, then the playing field could stand some leveling.

Christopher Marlowe - {{{job hunting}}}

Why do I feel so groggy? Oh, nice weather brought on cedar pollen. I hate tree sex. Also I suspect some oak trees may be revving up.

What was that on TV? Reba as Col. Sanders? Maybe I'll see it again when functioning and can judge. Off to gobble more antihistamine.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Feb 2 01:57:16 2018 209.159.255.231)
lostinamerica I have a mother living in Sturgis, about 20 minutes away. An aunt, uncle and cousin in town. Nephew in Pierre, SD. The closest relatives I have outside of the state is in Montana.



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lostinamerica says:
(Fri Feb 2 01:50:33 2018 73.58.128.92)
ChristopherMarlowe--Sounds like you're doing everything right :)

Is there another town you'd consider moving to, one with family, friends
or both?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Feb 2 00:04:47 2018 209.159.255.231)
Going offline for a little bit.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Feb 1 23:00:37 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunndale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Presidents
Question: The first television
broadcast of the State of the Union
address was given by what President?
Answer: Truman

Wolfguard is RIGHT!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Feb 1 22:29:52 2018 209.159.255.231)
Agent Cooper Ah yes! The superbowl. I forgot all about that for at least one day. *g*

I keep my eyes peeled for any city/county/state job. Most state jobs are in Pierre, SD and you cant' pay me to live there!

City and county jobs are hard to come by, I've applied for them as they come up, but haven't had a nibble yet.

I've signed up with two temp agencies, nothing yet with those. I was fast-tracked to a job with one of them, but flamed-out in the interview part.

I search a statewide job listing, indeed.com and LinkedIn. I also check out listing with the university/colleges around here.

I know most of the jobs out there are 'hidden' but it's not exactly easy to cold-call folks and ask if they need someone with strong data entry skills. If I was looking for a particular job like a secretary or something like that, I would have better luck going that route.

The one lone job I heard of through the grapevine may or may not pan out in the next couple of weeks, so I can't exactly stop the job search waiting for a possibility.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Feb 1 22:26:37 2018 4.28.180.2)
Parking link


*


* = U.S.'s top 10 imports



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Feb 1 22:00:01 2018 4.28.180.2)
Parking an excerpt from a CNN article, ~These are America's biggest trading
partners~ by Alanna Petroff (C. December 2016)

BEGINS

China is America's largest trading partner, with annual trade in goods and
services worth about $663 billion. Chinese exports to the U.S. totaled
nearly $500 billion in 2015 -- more than any other destination.

The value of U.S. trade with Canada is $662 billion, just a smidge less than
China. Canada is the largest market for U.S. exports, taking in 15% of
America's goods and services, worth $337 billion annually.

Mexico ranks as America's third biggest trading partner, worth $586 billion.

Japan, Germany, the United Kingdom and South Korea round out the next spots.
Their combined trade with the U.S. is worth $884 billion per year,
significantly more than China.

ENDS



WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Feb 1 19:48:51 2018 165.225.38.71)
Chris Marlowe: For the weekend, going skating with daughter Cooper on Sat and maybe dropping by my parents for dinner after. Sunday evening I was going to a superbowl party. I say "was" because now it seems there's a snowstorm set to hit on Sunday evening at just that time. If that happens I'm staying put. :-( The good news is I took Monday off work, so it'll be a fun day with the kids if Daughter Cooper gets a snow day. (Son Cooper isn't in school yet.)

How is the job search going? Don't get discouraged. Hang in there. Something will come up. Have you thought about something in human services or maybe community service? You seem to be pretty involved in those areas as a volunteer, maybe there's a paid position out there in that vein. That might be right up your alley. You could check out if your state is hiring too. Here in NY you basically just have to take a state test, and then if you pass they start sending you job offers. It take forever though. Mrs. Cooper took the state test once and it took about a year before she finally started getting position offers. But then, this IS NY we're talking about.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Feb 1 18:54:38 2018 71.56.125.67)
Edited: Thu Feb 1 18:55:15 2018
Trivia Girl,

Harry Truman?

The following is a link to an article on the history of the broadcasting of
the state of the union...

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/30/television-state-of-
the-union-216548


Since I've bought a new computer running Windows 10, I've not been able to
post links. :(

Does anyone have any idea how this can be corrected?


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Feb 1 18:46:33 2018 209.159.255.231)
Agent Cooper How is your weekend looking? Mine is pretty bare at the moment.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Feb 1 16:27:08 2018 165.225.38.71)
Trivia Girl: President Skroob



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Feb 1 16:16:00 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunndale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Presidents
Question: The first television
broadcast of the State of the Union
address was given by what
President?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Feb 1 15:30:25 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Thursday, February 1st, 2018 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


deadguy
lilith2000
Morby
Ramoth
TaraAnyaKate4eva
TVJames

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to deadguy, liligh20000, Morby, Ramoth, TaraAnyaKate4eva, TVJames!



Niska: Mr. Reynolds? You died, Mr. Reynolds. Mal: Seemed like the thing to do.
'War Stories''


to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Feb 1 14:33:58 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay muffy the vampire annoyer!


Happy CD Thursday!

lostinamerica The nearest town of any size is Sioux Falls, which is six hours away. The other cities closer to me are a lot smaller than Rapid City. I wouldn't be opposed to a commute, but a lot of folks commute TO Rapid City, not the other way around.



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Feb 1 12:35:38 2018 73.58.128.92)
Yay! MTVA!



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Feb 1 12:26:43 2018 73.58.128.92)
ChristopherMarlowe--So sorry :( Have you thought about starting new
somewhere else? Is there a nearby town or city you could commute to?



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Feb 1 11:20:01 2018 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for muffy the vampire annoyer!

yay muffy the vampire annoyer!


Happy CD Thursday!



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Feb 1 07:27:56 2018 71.56.125.67)
Yay Fasteddie!


Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question


As Buffy enters her late 30s, are her skills still at their high school
levels?


Her fundamental physical abilities - strength, endurance, speed, etc. are
less. Her conditioned reflexes are well-honed. Beyond both, Buffy just has
so many layers of experience - she just doesn't have to depend upon being
buff. She's just out thinks the foe.

Slow is smooth. Smooth is fast.



Good Night to All

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Feb 1 06:49:49 2018 71.56.125.67)
Christopher Marlowe,

I remembered you posting on the coming interview so assumed it might be
behind the 'funk'. What sort of job hunting/assistance exist in Rapid City
and surrounding areas?


White Wings,

Yours in italics.

... Or do we just want to flap our hands and say it's too complicated to
deal with, and woe is us?...


That's what we're doing - just with a snarl.

The US granted China permanent normal trade relations ~2001. Bill Clinton
had pushed for it during his second term and George W Bush granted it. It
opened up China to US agricultural and business exports, but it also made it
possible for US businesses to begin offshoring and sourcing from China.

As important, it forced Chinese businesses to become competitive. China had
and has state-owned enterprises (SOEs), but they also shut-down and/or cut
subsidies to many of these. Markets can exist without capitalism and
capitalism can exist under authoritarian governments. Singapore is an
example of the latter. How do authoritarian governments make it word? Demand
local firms compete on the world market.

"...We still have the problem that our companies cannot compete very well
against large rich governments thinly disguised as private companies...
"

Are you saying governments can produce better products than private
companies??? If so, then should we promote state capitalism in the US?
Seriously. I don't see this in you. *g* Please elaborate.


WG



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white wings says:
(Thu Feb 1 05:28:24 2018 70.112.135.184)
Christopher Marlowe -- That's too bad. I'm sorry. But maybe you have to kiss a few frogs before finding a prince of a job.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Feb 1 05:17:50 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Down in the dumps or a little sad.

I had an interview yesterday that I suspect didn't go super well and found out I didn't land the job. Which is hard to take as that was the first real interview I've managed to get in a while and I was excited about it.



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white wings says:
(Thu Feb 1 05:11:08 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay FASTEDDIE!

Belated Yay RTBS!

Happy Birthday Carla the Quiet One, Lady Bathory, and THX!


lostinamerica - *tsk* What a thing to wish for at a SOTU! Though there are fond memories of fistfights in the Texas State Circus. *g* Melania apparently knows how to wear white clothes and keep them white. I so hate/envy that. There might have been a lot more action, possibly eggs and tomatoes being thrown, but Pelosi told her kids to maintain order and just make faces. I really dislike the color-coordination going on by the women, especially black. It's boring. What's wrong with pretty colors and nice jewelry? I'm glad they didn't all stick with black.

One thing I have learned from watching these things. I find the carpet in the House chamber to be nicer looking, and it just looks cleaner. I hate the stuff in the Senate. I also don't think much of the Senate chairs. I haven't had a good look at the House seats.

Maverick - Yes, I know of Pamela Gellar, but I've not read the book. After all, they tried to kill her and a lot of others here in Texas. What I don't understand is why the FBI were tailing them and not interfering at all. Maybe the locals killed them too quickly. Interesting about Ovshinsky.

'Orrible stories of that funny white stuff. *shiver*

Christopher Marlowe - Sorry about the funk.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Feb 1 03:40:30 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Funk?


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Feb 1 03:10:12 2018 209.159.255.231)
Apologies for not being chatty tonight, I am in something of a deep funk.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Feb 1 02:00:26 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: In which episode, would you have found the character Ratio Hornblower?
Answer: Smile Time!

Trivia Master: notsoShyGirl!

Sorry for the lengthy delay. I was in a funk most of the day and I am just now pulling myself out of it.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jan 31 20:49:20 2018 209.159.255.231)
Agent Cooper ROFL!!! I wonder what they called Lilah?



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jan 31 19:20:23 2018 71.56.125.67)
Edited: Wed Jan 31 19:24:13 2018
Drive-By

Neat DGMAWQ. And just saw DGMBTQ - more fun pondering 144 titles! *g*

Welcome to ...(what's zip code for Sunnydale?)

When She was Buffy

Not-Buffy, Anne. Buffy Anne

The Fresh Girl

Dracula Woos Buffy

WTF! (1-2)

Sunnydale Redux


(ETA In homage to SMG's comment that (after 6th season) seventh season would
put the "Sunny" back in Sunnydale)


That takes care of the season premieres. But now, seriously, seriousness.



WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Jan 31 17:10:51 2018 165.225.38.71)
Trivia Girl: That's what the other lawyers at W&H called Lindsey behind his back around the water cooler.






RIMSHOT!



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Jan 31 16:03:14 2018 206.124.19.186)
Trivia Girl
Smile Time



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Jan 31 15:22:45 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: In which episode, would you have found the character Ratio Hornblower?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Jan 31 15:10:11 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Wednesday, January 31st 2018 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


Carla the Quiet One
Lady Bathory
THX

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Carla, Lady Bathory, THX!!



Don't I get a cookie? Spike, 'Something Blue'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jan 31 14:59:28 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay fasteddie!

I would tend to think that with age, Buffy would have slowed down as far as slayer skills. However, she would still be a extremely fit 30 year old!

Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Jan 31 12:17:42 2018 24.3.106.169)
Edited: Wed Jan 31 12:19:30 2018
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for fasteddie!

yay fasteddie!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

the sunnydale institute of aging

as buffy enters her late 30s, are her skills still at their high school levels?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Wed Jan 31 11:44:32 2018 73.58.128.92)
ChristopherMarlowe--Nope, just as dull as all the other State of the Union
addresses--I was hoping at the very least Melania would jump on Nikki Haley for
fooling around with her husband (catfight!) but alas that was not to be ;)



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Jan 31 03:37:27 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I do not know. If did not understand English and was watching Trump, but seeing his words translated in my language, I may be confused with the words and his behavior.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jan 31 02:04:18 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

If you don't understand the language, then what of the speaker's behavior? If
the speaker is a leader, then who follows him and for what reasons?

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe;farrior says:
(Wed Jan 31 01:18:18 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I don't know
whether Trump would be more
understandable in Russian or worse.
*g*



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Jan 31 00:00:44 2018 4.28.180.2)
Today on Press Pool one guest asked Julie Mason if the State of the
Union speech would be in Russian. She replied, 'Oh no, but there would be
Russian subtitles.' *g*


WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Jan 30 23:54:02 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Whose body was Glory trapped in?
Answer: Ben, yes BEN!

Trivia Master: notsoShyGirl



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Jan 30 23:48:21 2018 4.28.180.2)
Well, I could not find a first airing of a BtVS episode falling on January 30,
but one episode was originally aired on January 29, 2002. And that episode was
....

(Drumroll)

((Double Meat Palace))


Many people were not fond of this episode (I liked it). Guess who wrote it?

((Jane Espenson))



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Jan 30 23:34:52 2018 4.28.180.2)
Once upon a time Tuesday night programming had something better to offer than
'The State of the Union'. *g*


WG



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Maverick says:
(Tue Jan 30 21:53:07 2018 68.51.139.52)
Agent Cooper1: I've got a temperamental Toro so I sometimes can't get her to kick over and start. The snowpusher is like a snow shovel (the shovel has a flat blade and because I have no derriere have been often accused of having been hit in the @ss with a snow shovel) BUT the handle is much longer and the blade is concavely curved and the handle is connected in the back at a more mid point between top and bottom (rather than at the end.) Now you need a relatively flat surface but you can push the snow to the sides without having to lift much. I have a long wide driveway with a bend and if I get a fresh snowfall that hasn't been driven on, I can clear it in 1/2 hour and not be worn out. BTW, your Sears story reminds me of the Detroit story I hear from Detroit oldtimers a few times a year and involves light bulbs which Detroit Edison used to give away for free in exchange, if people brought their old burned out bulbs in. Well, some pharmacist wanted to be selling light bulbs so he sued Edison (restraint of trade or something) and ruined this for everybody and they promptly then put HIM out of business.


Agent Cooper2: Yes, "Glory" was a movie about a black northern Civil War outfit and "Ben" was about a rat that Michael Jackson sang about.


Agent Cooper3: Yes, and they should throw away the Key (making this a Buffy-related post.) I almost wish they would release the Inspector General's Report rather than Devin Nunes' Memo, which can perhaps be characterized as partisan. I hope Jeff Sessions gets some uncorrupted help in prosecuting these clowns.


Maverick


Expressway




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wolfguard says:
(Tue Jan 30 21:38:44 2018 4.28.180.2)
DaddyCatALSO,

I do not remember ~running~ with your idea; however, I do remember
ShadowQuest went as ShadowQuest here at the Bronze.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jan 30 21:04:39 2018 209.159.255.231)
Agent Cooper Interesting times for just about anyone in the US government!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Jan 30 20:30:04 2018 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard Like Scar in The Lion King, your mind is quite slippery:-). this reminds me of the time you ran with *my* fic idea of "the MaClays are an in-bred clan" and drove ShadowQuest and (I forget the alias she used here) Willow'sPromise up the wall with a scenario in which Willow and Tara themselves were either half-sisters or maybe even full sisters; after a couple days they were practically screaming



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Jan 30 20:03:48 2018 165.225.38.71)
Wolfguard: Well, that's some very clever postulating. But we all know there was just no connection between Glory and Ben. Fun to speculate though.

OldManFan: Yeah. Interesting to imagine though isn't it?

Wait. What were we talking about again?

Maverick: Smowpusher? Yes. But I've never owned one. I use my Craftsman snow shovel like one sometimes though. Cool thing about the Craftsman shovel - and alot of people didn't know about this while it was going on - is that you could return it when it gave out, just like any other Crafstman tool. Yup. You heard right. All you had to do was bring it back to Sears with the receipt and show the wear on it, and they handed you a new shovel, no questions asked. I didn't have to buy a new shovel for several years doing this. Just traded in the old one. Then, of course, they stopped doing this. It must have cost them a fortune. The guy who turned me on to this scheme had a landscaping business, and he told me he got like a dozen new snow shovels every year this way. And they never advertised this about the warranty applying to shovels, so like I said, most people had no idea. But enough to make them stop the program I guess. All good things, etc.

Maverick II: Alot of people who are currently employed in the FBI and justice dept right now may not be when all this is over. And some may be in jail. Some high profile politicians and their friends may well be in jail with them. Then again, they all protect each other in the end though. Anyway, one can still hope.



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Maverick says:
(Tue Jan 30 19:42:32 2018 68.51.139.52)
I almost forgot. I was watching a movie last night called "A Cure for Wellness" (which is an all-but-incomprehensible, horsesh!t movie which just goes on and on and leaves way too many plot holes.) Anyway, what happens in the movie is that a Wall Street company is in trouble with the SEC and it sends this hot-shot young trader to Germany to bring back the former company boss (who is in a health sanitarium) to stand charges. When he got to Germany and I saw the former boss, I kept saying to myself, Who is that Guy? LSS, it is Harry Groener, Buffy's Mayor Wilkins, and, even though he didn't get to show his expansive acting talents, it was a large part in a major motion picture. Interestingly, if you look him up online, he still is probably best known for playing the Mayor.


Maverick


Vehicle




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jan 30 19:30:23 2018 209.159.255.231)
Wolfguard I like your thinking!!!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Jan 30 19:16:59 2018 71.56.125.67)
Trivia Girl,

Is it possible Ben was trapped in
Glory's body? Isn't it possible
that the entrapped god put the
Glory 'persona' out there to
distract those who might be
trying to stop it from escaping
to its home dimension?

Moreover, Ben could also have
been part of the deception plan.
That's right. The Key was the
God. And that's why Buffy went to
heaven - it's where the Key God
was meant to go.

If this is the correct reading of
the text, then everything that
happened in the last two seasons
has to be reviewed with new eyes.
For one, The "First" might have
been the real Buffy - or Glory?

I see a pleasant afternoon ahead
of me in the library. *g*


WG



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OldManFan says:
(Tue Jan 30 19:15:28 2018 24.3.106.169)
Trivia Girl - I think notsoShyGirl is insinuating a connection between Glory and Ben. Inconceivable!

OMF



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Maverick says:
(Tue Jan 30 19:09:11 2018 68.51.139.52)
Trivia Girl: Clare Kramer and it was a fabulous, kicking body.


Christopher Marlowe: That's okay--you won't understand it anyway.


white wings: I love your mind, stray thoughts and all. It works fine. I have been reading a book about a lady I think you would admire, Pamela Geller, called "FATWA: Hunted in America." In the meantime, on the solar panels, the Chinese are still Communists and just like in the TV Series, "The Americans," they would rather steal their technologies. If they ever decided to go Capitalistic, we should worry. In the meantime, ever heard of This Guy? The Chinese had been stealing his technology for years. I know of him because his company was local here in Michigan and I tried more than once to get employed there.


Agent Cooper: Just for clarification. Do you know what a snowpusher is?


Looking forward to the release of the Inspector General Report (through Devin Nunes.)


Maverick


Jump




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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Jan 30 18:04:56 2018 165.225.38.71)
Trivia Girl: I don't believe Glory was ever trapped in anyone's body. Trick question?

Notsoshygirl: I don't remember that at all.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Jan 30 16:53:33 2018 206.124.19.186)
Trivia Girl
Ben Wilkinson's



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Jan 30 16:50:13 2018 209.159.255.231)
whoops!!!! Today is a big interview day.

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Whose body was Glory trapped in?



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Jan 30 16:29:37 2018 166.137.139.34|206.124.19.186)
Peeks in, looking for Trivia



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Jan 30 15:31:43 2018 199.127.148.10)
Maverick Yes, I think somebody mentioned that when you first brought it up.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Jan 30 15:07:03 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Tuesday, January 30th 2018 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


AngelaWat
Duncan MacLeod
Sowle

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to AngelaWat, Duncan, Sowle



That's beautiful. Or taken literally, incredibly gross. Buffy, 'Helpless'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jan 30 14:55:50 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay rtbs!

deadguy qod

Hmmm. that's a good question. 'The Girl in Question' could be renamed Angel and Spike's not so Excellent Adventure!



Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Jan 30 12:32:31 2018 73.58.128.92)
ChristopherMarlowe, Maverick--Here, here, it's all so predictable
it's not worth watching. . .though with Trump this is the best chance in forever
something completely out of the ordinary will happen ;)



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Jan 30 11:59:07 2018 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for rtbs

yay rtbs!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

the television naming convention service

if there were one episode, of either show, that you could rename, which would you pick and what name would you choose?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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white wings says:
(Tue Jan 30 05:33:43 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay The Host!

Happy Birthday Grifter and HoneyNut!

Christopher Marlowe - While I hope you don't have to enjoy your unemployed status for too long, l have to say that I've found the freedom of partial retirement to be very enjoyable.

Agent Cooper - I find the timing of McCabe's leaving curious, since he had only a month to go.

Maverick - Shoot, in 1959 my parents found it cheaper to ship a car to Tokyo than to buy one there. I think at that time Japanese cars didn't have the finest reputation. Anyway, this has been going on forever, or at least post WWII. Not only have we been played for patsies for many years, we've encouraged it and told ourselves that it was our responsibility to the world. Here and there it might have been true, and may even have been beneficial to us in some indirect fashion. But we'd gotten into an awkward hole. Also, it doesn't really do anyone any good to let them think they are playing you for a fool. Obama tried to assure everyone that we really weren't big dog on the block, and got no respect. Trump is actually treating the others as adult equals who have to take some consequences but may still make great gains as long as they don't get too greedy.

wolfguard - Yes, manufacturing is international and pretty complex, for almost anything. Even hobby beading - semi-precious gems may be mined here (or anywhere), and the raw product sent to Hong Kong to be cut, and those beads shipped back here, with various markups depending on how they are sold. Or you can buy hobby-level garnets from India in the sure and certain knowledge that they are cut and dyed by child labor. But I digress. We still have the problem that our companies cannot compete very well against large rich governments thinly disguised as private companies, or when other countries slap high tariffs/taxes against US imports. It also doesn't do us much good to decide that some material/technology is vital and then pretty much allow a government who is not our friend to ensure that we have no ability to obtain it except from them. Do we want to have no capacity for manufacturing solar panels, or do we want to serve notice to a foreign government that we have noted what they are doing, and we are going to react in the same way they would? Or do we just want to flap our hands and say it's too complicated to deal with, and woe is us? I think the answer is in the future, and we will have to see how adroitly the situation is actually handled. There's no doubt that it could go very badly. That's a risk. On the other hand, solar energy is very attractive, and customers/utility companies/installers will likely find some way to work around price differences if it's going to work. Just playing the numbers game of jobs without respect to the rest of the factors might be simplistic. Unless it turns out to have been smarter. *g*

Suniva might be competing against all other nations, but apparently the solar panels of other nations are frequently built in those countries by Chinese-owned plants. If the Chinese government objects to their actions, they can bring considerable pressure on the Chinese owners of Suniva, including prison and death if they so choose. So I still wonder.

I want solar panels, but I don't want my new(ish) roof to be marred. Also I used to have solar-powered vents on my roof, and they worked superbly. But a hail storm that came from the opposite direction that the panels were facing managed to take out a number of the panels. They still worked, but it was dismaying. If I had solar panels on the roof, I'd want to have some kind of a rolling shutter to protect them, and that would be really expensive, though maybe not more than maintaining the panels. I did see in some article a while back that someone is trying to find a way to collect solar energy via window glass. Why do I speak of this? Well, no reason, really. Stream of conscious. *g*

I wonder if there are cases where other countries are facing the same behavior on our part that we are complaining of on theirs? Do we take others to the cleaners? It was another stray thought that crossed my mind.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Jan 30 01:55:10 2018 4.28.180.2)
White Wings,

My theory is the Chinese owners of Suniva are competing with solar panel
makers of all nationalities. Back in the early 70s my father would say, ~ I
hope the Chinese remain communists. He knew what some individuals were
capable of when the reins were loosen. China with over a billion people
doesn't need a larger percentage of them to be driven commercial empire
builders to set the world on fire. Only this weekend I heard one analyst
say, "The Chinese economy is a monster."

Solar panels are only the beginning of a solar power system. There are other
important components.1 One bottleneck is the solar inverter which
changes the DC power produced by the captured solar photons into AC current.
Google has sponsored a million dollar (?) competition towards improving
current inverter technology (you can find the details online).

Once upon a time when trade was mostly in commodities and finished products
it might have made sense to sometimes use tariffs. But, many products today
are assembled from parts made in different countries. Before you turn off
the spigot you need to know how the entire plumbing system works so you're
not caught unawares.

1 In previous post I noted the report that of 38,000 Americans
working in manufacturing solar technologies only 2,000 were involved in
manufacturing panels.



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Jan 30 01:36:21 2018 209.159.255.231)
Maverick State of the Union tomorrow night. I'll pass like I did for every other president, including ones I've voted for!



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Maverick says:
(Tue Jan 30 01:30:14 2018 68.51.139.52)
Agent Cooper1: Yesterday, here in Michigan, it was around 50 degrees and sunny with barely no snow left on the ground; today, it's 21 degrees (down to 14 tonight) with 4 inches of new snow. The Horror. The Horror.


Agent Cooper2: (Wasting time before attending to the snow) you started counting the days until the end of winter? I'm convinced we group time into packets and that's one of the reasons why we ask ourselves at some later date "where has time flown?" And we comment that time flies when we get older. When we are younger it all seems to happen haphazardly (and we are surprised); when we get older we keep repeating predictable cycles like Groundhog's Day (mid point of winter,) end of snow around St. Patrick's Day, holidays, birthdays, shopping days, vacation days, time to put the boat in the water, time to take it out, etc.


DaddyCatALSO: Mother Teresa was the other person (besides Churchill) named an honorary U.S. Citizen while alive.


white wings: We usually apply tariffs defensively (in retaliation) when someone is stopping our exports from being readily accepted. Methinks, for instance, South Korea does not sell many of our U.S. made cars, because they add tariffs to our price over there. The whole thing with solar panels, is that China (in particular) dumps (sells them below China's COST) them in our country to try to kill off our own domestic manufacturing industry leaving us with no alternative than buy from China (at which point they WILL raise their prices.) This kind of predatory export pricing HAS worked in the past (we make few appliances anymore in this country.) The problem is that U.S. citizens love a bargain (and don't recognize the harm to employment that's happening behind the scenes.) Something similar also happens when workers in this country DEMAND higher wages, and/or fringes, than their efforts contribute, like in "Norma Rae" (Sally Field) standing on her sewing workstation with the "Union" sign; all those jobs went to Sri Lanka and Pakistan, etc., and the Norma Raes sit home without pay in the south. The point I wanted to make, though, is that the installers of solar panels complain that their work will dry up if tariffs are applied to "dumped" panels, but that there ARE marginal negotiations where these things are not necessarily all or nothing as installers complain. The work doesn't HAVE to grind to a halt; installers CAN reduce their profit margins and/or find (or encourage) other manufacturers and/or make better use of federal tax credits for purchasers. My understanding of these tariffs is that they are destined to reduce from 40% to 15% in 4 years; still they signal that we are watching for these attempts to further close down American industries. We have been played as patsies over the years--the Chinese steal our technologies and undercut our pricing. We ought to at least have an awareness of this, which I would argue is what Trump aims to have and attempt to keep all parties honest. I refreshingly note I think you agree.


Maverick


A Hazy Shade of Winter




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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Jan 29 23:31:46 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Literature
Question: Which book would you have found food like the Three-Course Dinner Chewing Gum and the Everlasting Gobstopper?
Answer: Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

Trivia Chocolatiers: notsoShyGirl!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jan 29 21:45:18 2018 209.159.255.231)
Agent Cooper One of the few nice things about being unemployed is that I have much more time to run errands during the day. I think I drove all over town today!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Jan 29 19:44:31 2018 165.225.38.71)
Wolfguard: Look, you're on the night shift. ...And we're not paying you OT for this post.

-Bronze Mgmt



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Jan 29 19:27:16 2018 71.56.125.67)
Drive-By

'Cause I can. :)


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jan 29 18:35:33 2018 209.159.255.231)
Agent Cooper That doesn't bode well.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Jan 29 18:18:58 2018 165.225.38.71)
Well, deputy director of the FBI is now gone. First domino to fall.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Jan 29 16:31:03 2018 206.124.19.186)
Trivia Girl
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory by Roald Dahl



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Jan 29 15:40:38 2018 165.225.38.71)
Trivia Girl: Mr. Wonka's recipe book?

I never actually read that story, just saw the 70s film. But I've heard the book is alot darker than the movie was, and that Roald Dahl did not like the film at all.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Jan 29 15:20:31 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Literature
Question: Which book would you have found food like the Three-Course Dinner Chewing Gum and the Everlasting Gobstopper?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Jan 29 14:56:31 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Monday, January 29th 2018 C.E.

We have TWO (2) Birthdays!


Grifter
HoneyNut

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Grifter, HoneyNut!



The Bay City Rollers, now that's music. Giles, 'The Dark Age'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jan 29 14:32:45 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay the host!


Goodbye Blue Monday

Agent Cooper That's a good question. I guess depending on how they donated it, she might be limited in how she can spend it. But you takes your chances!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Jan 29 14:24:44 2018 165.225.38.71)
I wonder what Jill Stein did with all that money they gave her to overturn the election or something.

Remember her?

I wish a bunch of people would give ME a wheel barrow full of money and then just kind of forget about me and just not care what I did with it.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Jan 29 13:59:31 2018 165.225.38.71)
Spending all day at my desk at work is tiring! :-P

I want a job where I get to walk around all day.

It's another cold, dreary winter day here in the Great White North. We are in the deepest depths of Winter. And to make things worse, it's Monday Morning! Ugh!

But still gotta keep those spirits up! Only 50 days till Spring!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Jan 29 11:40:25 2018 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for the host!

yay the host!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jan 29 02:55:48 2018 209.159.255.231)
finally home!!!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Jan 29 00:17:08 2018 208.117.98.62)
Spending all day in Booth is
tiring. I should be home soon!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Jan 28 15:32:00 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Wednesday, January 3rd 2018 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


Bubble's Dad
BuffyFan87
Nouveaux
ShadowSlayer
VeRyVaMpYGiRLy

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Bubble's Dad, BuffyFan87, Noveaux, ShadowSlayer, VeRyVaMpYGiRLyD!



Police procedure has changed since I was little. Wash, 'The Message'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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lostinamerica says:
(Sun Jan 28 12:30:49 2018 73.58.128.92)
Belated Yay! OzLady!



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white wings says:
(Sun Jan 28 07:18:49 2018 70.112.135.184)
Edited: Sun Jan 28 08:41:13 2018
Happy Birthday BuffyFan87, Nouveaux, ShadowSlayer, and VeRyVaMpYGiRLy!

Christopher Marlowe - There's no doubt that if one is service-oriented and can handle the
challenges of a 911 dispatcher, it's a critical job that helps a lot of people. It's hard to imagine a
time when we didn't have 911. I can remember a time back in 1968 (I think) when I was on a pack
trip in Rocky Mountain National Park, and one man started having symptoms that could have been
altitude sickness (it was) or heart. We had a doctor with us, but someone had to ride out to a phone
to call in a helicopter. We didn't have cell phones then either, but in that location even now one
would need special equipment. It was scary knowing we had to wait so long for help.

wolfguard - I had no idea that WalMart is that big. No wonder the unions hate it so much.

What's your theory as to why a Chinese owned solar power company with US plants would want a
tariff on other Chinese solar panels? Trying to do in the competition, or trying to do in US solar
installers for some fell reason?

Is a puzzlement.

I thought the tariff was on finished solar panels from China. Why is Sunpower saying it needs to be
exempted from on parts that come from countries that the tariffs aren't levied against? Am I
mistaken? Is it a universal tariff that includes parts as well as finished panels? ETA: I googled. The
tariff is universal, but apparently the Chinese have evaded all attempts to guard against dumping by
establishing plants all over creation. Also the tariff is reduced by 5% each year down to 15%. If I got
it right, Sunpower is not manufacturing in this country, so it's not parts but complete panels of
probably Chinese owned and subsidized provenance that it imports, and it has been suffering severe
losses unrelated to Trump.

All that aside, Trump might have listened to eco-warriors telling him that solar power is critical, and
he might have decided that if something is critical, we should not be dependent for it on a country
that is not fundamentally friendly, even if there is some cost. I don't know. Clearly I am not abreast
of many details. (ETA: in googling, it seems he said precisely that.) Nonetheless, there doesn't
appear to be too much weeping and wailing over the tariff, no wild days-long accusations of starting
a trade war. I see more outrage over the suggestion of giving 1.8 million people a path to
citizenship. But I lean on biased sources. *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Jan 28 03:19:42 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Yes, a significant number of production systems are spread across the world.
The factors that go into making or providing a given good are often not all
sourced in a single country. If you want the product, then you'll have to
accept it represents inputs from more than one country.


White Wings,

Sunpower, Inc manufacturers solar panels. It is based in San Jose,
California; however, most of the parts it uses are made in Mexico and the
Philippines. Sunpower has said it will halt a $20 million investment in its
home state and Texas unless the Trump administration exempts it from the
tariff.

The two American-based solar manufacturers that demanded the tariffs are
Suniva and SolarWorld. The former is Chinese-owned and the latter German-
owned.

The Solar Energy Industries Association reported there are 38,000 Americans
working in solar power manufacturing. Only 2,000 are involved in
manufacturing the panels. The other 36,000 manufacture the other components
of solar energy systems.

Around another 200,000 American workers installed solar panels and systems.
Some of them will lose work if utilities and construction companies cut back
when, as a consequence of the tariff, solar cell panels prices rise.



WG



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Comma says:
(Sun Jan 28 03:13:24 2018 75.143.154.113)
I am doing some research:

What if I told all that, of all persons, who have been DNA tested in Europe, 50% are kin to King Tut. Seventy percent of all persons from England are kin to King Tut. Only 1% of all Egyptians are kin to him.

The oldest mummy, found in Egypt, has red hair. The myth goes that Scotland is named for Princess Scott, a princess, from Egypt, that, after being disowned in Egypt, came to present day Scotland.

If all cannot tell, I have the 'Comm' tonight.

Comma



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Jan 28 02:19:52 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Remember that 'buy American' thing? Most products seem to be global in themselves.



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Jan 28 02:07:29 2018 4.28.180.2)
For reference...

https://econlife.com/2014/09/globalization-of-the-iphone-6-supply-
chain/


Link to how a pencil and an iphone are the same.



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Jan 28 01:32:29 2018 4.28.180.2)
Edited: Sun Jan 28 01:33:27 2018
Christopher Marlowe,

One quick and dirty measure of a company's performance is to divide the annual
revenue by the total number of employees. Hypothetical example ...


$750,000 / 5 employees = $150,000 revenue per employee

$10,000,000,000 / 100,000 employees = $100,000 per employee

$480,000,000,000 / 2,000,000 employees = $240,000 per employee


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Jan 28 00:51:47 2018 209.159.255.231)
Edited: Sun Jan 28 00:57:54 2018
wolfguard I don't know the figures for google or facebook, but I assume a LOT!

ETA

It appears to be 89.46 billion USD for Google, 27.64 billion USA for facebook.

72,000 employees for Google, 17.000 for facebook. Both of these numbers came from www.statista.com



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Jan 27 23:17:27 2018 4.28.180.2)
Company Data

Format -

Name - 2016 Revenue (in billions of dollars) - # Employees

/////////

Walmart - $482 - 2.2 million employees

Apple - $215 - 47,000

Amazon - $136 - 222,000

General Motors - $166 - 204,000

General Electric - $119 - 301,000 (world-wide)

IBM - $80 - 387,000

Intel - $59 - 106,000

///////


Questions What were the 2016 revenues for Google and Facebook? How
many people did they employ in 2016?



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Jan 27 22:49:03 2018 4.28.180.2)
For reference ...


M


M = Top 20 Facts About Manufacturing (in US)


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jan 27 22:43:48 2018 209.159.255.231)
a long day..two hour crackerbarrel, two hour lunch and shopping!

Super tired at the moment.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Jan 27 15:25:15 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Saturday, January 27th 2018 C.E.

We have TWO (2) Birthdays!


BuffyFan87
Nouveaux
ShadowSlayer
VeRyVaMpYGiRLy

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to BuffyFan87, Nouveaux, ShadowSlayer
VeRyVaMpYGiRLy!



I'm so evil and... skanky. And I think I'm kinda gay. Willow, 'Doppelgangland'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jan 27 15:19:42 2018 209.159.255.231)
Edited: Sat Jan 27 15:20:48 2018
white wings There were some real downsides though. The dispatchers develop a fairly close relationship to the officers, so it is traumatic when there is an officer-involved shooting. They have experienced pretty horrific 911 calls, PTSD is not unusual. But they were pretty enthusiastic about their jobs, and most of the ones I talked to have been on the job for a couple years. It sounds like a pretty intense training to be one.



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white wings says:
(Sat Jan 27 06:19:43 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay OzLady!

Happy Birthday Amber, EssJay, and No1buffyfan!

Christopher Marlowe, wolfguard - I wouldn't get too excited (one way or the other) about globalization and Trump's alleged change on TPP. *g* He just said that it was a bad deal for the US, and if there were a good deal available, he might be interested.

Actually I wouldn't get too excited about anything much that he says, one way or another. It all seems to be a negotiation. Since we don't know him at all as a person, the only way to judge is to look at what he accomplishes, which makes trust really hard when you don't have enough to look back on. Then you have to decide whether or not to trust his intentions or his competence at negotiations (or both).

At least he doesn't throw out a position and say he's going to sit there and hold his breath until he gets his way, which seems to be the main negotiating skill of a lot of people out there in the public.

Christopher Marlowe(2) - "America first is not America alone" was never hiding. It was only being reported on one network. But don't go there. It's not safe for progressives, and can be a bit shrill. It would make your eyes cross and your head spin. We'd have to have an exorcism. *g*

Christopher Marlowe(3) That's fascinating about your merry band of 911 operators. I thought it was a high stress job, but you seem to have run into a batch of dedicated people who are handling it beautifully. I had to laugh at the "area west of the Missouri". It's such a good pioneering phrase, like "Law west of the Pecos".

wolfguard - I saw what you did. *glare* Filed with the other thing until I can think about them more. It was a long day. Trump seems to want to encourage manufacturing in this country, no matter who owns it. Also, the practice of dumping cheap panels in this country by companies subsidized by other governments has a tendency to (deliberately) drive US based companies out of business, much like the Saudis tried to destroy the US fracking industry. Trump didn't stop the Saudis of course, it just turned out that they weren't as solid economically as they thought they were. But Trump isn't trying to set a grand policy. He seems to be trying to rebuild our economy one piece at a time.

Some of the solar installation companies are saying they can't stay in business, and some are saying that the prices of panels will go down enough across the board to save them. For that matter, if there's a strong dollar, while exporters might be hurt, importers can get their stuff for less. Possibly even solar panels with higher tariffs. I'm no expert on currency exchanges or manipulation, so I'm wildly speculating. I am fairly sure that if something proves empirically to not be working, Trump will be willing to adjust. Whether he can drag others with him is another matter.

I'm just watching, and I'm carefully not thinking too much. I'm hoping. It's not generally a safe strategy, but it seems to be the sanest just right now. *g*


On the other hand I need to think enough to remember to post in IE, because the skinny post is too long.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jan 27 05:04:59 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Sorry, got offline there. Reading and thinking....



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Jan 27 03:12:12 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Globalization comes in several forms. Here I'm referring to economic
globalization or the freedom of people to pursue economic ends across the
world.

Such pursuits mean that goods, money, people, and technology are free to
cross political borders. At a given time and place some of these may be more
or less free to move than others.

The most recent era of globalization ran from around 1992 till it got
derailed by the 2008 financial shutdown and resulting recession. It has not
fully recovered. This era was made possible by four factors ...

(1) Financial deregulation

(2) The microcomputer revolution which made it possible for companies to
communicate and coordinate in real-time across the world

(3) Cheap fuel for ships and jets

(4) A relatively widespread willingness by many countries to open their
borders to finance and trade.


So, what are the present state of these factors?


(1) I cannot speak to financial deregulation. Businesses and financial
institutions will say they are burden, but they probably see most
regulations as a burden. Most major currencies are free to move; however,
China tries to control capital flows in and out of the country. Since 2008
Central Banks have been pumping money into their economies trying to jump-
start economic activity (recently some have been very slowly lessening the
amounts). One problem in regulating financial institutions is that there are
other actors who have been able to function as banks without being labeled
as bank.

(2) Computers and their kin - AI, machine language, automation, "the
internet of everything' seem to keep innovating, though I don't know which
of its many facets will be the next great thing. However, to listen to some
the end for the human workforce is near.

(3) The summer before the 2008 financial shutdown saw the rise of oil to
near $150/barrel. The increase in transport costs were leading some
companies to consider bringing their production operations closer to their
markets. The drop in oil prices that came with the recession and the shale
revolution.

(4) The political will has decreased. Countries still want the good things
that can come from globalization, but they are less willing to risk the
costs. Trump's election and the Brexit vote are examples.


Summing it.

- Communication and transportation technologies still look favorable for
globalization.

- Political will is shaky.

- Finance does not always reflect the economic realities.


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Jan 27 02:06:30 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Earlier today, CNN reported TPTB at Davos who had criticized Trump for his
position on climate change were now smiling because of his tax cuts and
deregulation efforts. Just butter my bread and I'm a happy camper.

Two possible explanations for his shift on the TPP: (1) Dropping out was a
negotiating gambit, (2) After listening to people in the know, Trump changed
his mind.1

Globalization a bit later tonight.

1 After being criticized by some of his fellow economists, John
Maynard Keynes replied, ~ When the facts change, I change my mind, What do
you do sir?

Sometimes the facts do not change, but a person's awareness changes.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jan 27 01:50:58 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard It sounds like Trump made something of a good impression at Davos. I wonder how long that good impression will last? I'm not entirely sure what to make of his interest in joining TPP, since he seemed so adamant about it before.

Is globalization still viable?



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Jan 27 01:35:16 2018 4.28.180.2)
Hereabouts

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jan 27 01:26:31 2018 209.159.255.231)
"America First Is not America
Alone" well, where was this
reasonable-sounding soundbite
hiding?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Jan 27 00:13:59 2018 209.159.255.231)
anyone hereabouts?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jan 26 20:34:55 2018 209.159.255.231)
Agent Cooper They relaunched
Full House and new updates of Will
and Grace, Murphy Brown, Roseanne,
etc. But those feature the
original characters, just x years
later. I don't think they can do
that with Buffy.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jan 26 20:03:51 2018 209.159.255.231)
DaddyCatALSO Spooky Mulder!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Jan 26 18:49:26 2018 199.127.148.10)
Edited: Fri Jan 26 18:49:50 2018
Got to blow off the weirdness here; just called a Provider about a refund, the I guess customer service agent who answered had the same first name as my ex-wife, and the Biller she asked me to fax the Request to had the same first name a s our daughter.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Jan 26 18:45:21 2018 165.225.38.71)
I got nuthin' today. Just trying to make it to the weekend unscathed.

They keep re-launching these old 90s TV shows. Will BTVS be next?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Jan 26 17:52:01 2018 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard Hmm, differentiating between the boys based on the moms because they share a dad and are close in age. Very interesting idea, a nd gives me something to think about for story angles. So far, in that 'verse all I have are 1-survival/resource management related story ideas, 2-stories about people being pulled through rifts form other fictional dimensions, which connects to #1, and 3- Faith/Buffy BDSM vignettes, along with other "bad town for straight men" stuff.
This really treads a fine line (and says something about me that I'd think of this) but I could have Xander be the obvious donor and suggest that it's for purposes of genetic diversity, since in this 'verse he's married to Slayer Renee from the S-8 comics. (Anya is still a demon and is married to Wesley.) Or maybe, Wesley is a more obvious donor; he and Anya don't get together right away, a nd anyway they don't know if a Vengeance Demon, given their reason for existing, can even have children.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Jan 26 15:02:42 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today is Friday, January 26th 2018 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


Amber
EssJay
No1Buffyfan

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Amber, EssJay, No1buffyfan!



Well, then, this is a day I'll feel good to be me. Mal, 'Trash''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Jan 26 14:36:19 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay ozlady!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!

wolfguard It was the same with our dispatch. There were regular callers, but not the large queue, at least that night. I think it was almost all women there, the ones I sat with appeared to be all under forty, and told me they loved the job, and I believe them!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Jan 26 12:18:38 2018 24.3.106.169)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for ozlady!

yay ozlady!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Jan 26 06:49:54 2018 71.56.125.67)
Christopher Marlowe,

I had a friend who worked for around a year for the Atlanta Police
Department's 911 center. He was one of the few men working at the center
(may have been the only man). Most of the women were single mothers who
valued the job for the benefits. On the nights he worked his board might be
showing 40 incoming calls in the queue. He told me some people were regular
callers ~ Payday. Drinking. Spousal beatings. Some people he could recognize
by their screams.



White Wings,

That is useful information on IE and posting. So, of course I need to
reciprocate. Trade! *g*

The President has improved ~30% tariff on imported solar cells. Two solar
cell manufacturers based here in the states asked for the protection
claiming foreign companies were dumping solar cells. This may well be true;
however, these two solar cell manufacturers are actually owned by
foreigners, one company by the Chinese and the other by the Germans.
Meanwhile, home-based solar installation companies are saying they cannot
stay in business if they cannot import the cheaper solar cells they install.
Consequently, some of those Americans working in the solar cell installation
business are going to be laid-off.

Now, I'm not using this case to take a swipe at the President. I'm using it
to show beneath the headlines, soundbites and bumper stickers the net affect
of trade policy on Americans is not always going to be clear cut.

Oh! Another example. In the past day or two the President said he wanted a
strong American dollar. On the surface, many Americans might like a strong
dollars. "Strong" is usually good (it certainly benefits Americans traveling
overseas). OTOH, a strong dollar usually doesn't benefit American exporters
since it increases the purchase price to foreigners leading some not to buy
American products - can't afford them.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jan 26 05:06:14 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard, Agent Cooper 911 Dispatch was just fascinating. They don't just take in 911 calls, they also look up and provide information to Police officers, like warrant information or protection orders.

I did not know they kept a 'dead deer log'!

I think they are close to being one of the few dispatch areas certified in handling dispatch for the police department, fire department an medical unites. They also cover state troopers west of the Missouri.

I also did not realize that it wasn't until 9-11 that 911 reached every American nationwide.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Jan 26 04:48:03 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard, Agent Cooper This class is just something offered to the public. It also serves as something of a recruitment effort.

Our 911 dispatch covers the entire area west of the Missouri. Although Sioux Falls has twice the population, we have roughly the same amount of calls coming in.

The most amazing bunch of women I have run across in my life!



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white wings says:
(Fri Jan 26 04:33:48 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay drunkenfairy!

Happy Birthday AliGator, Charity aka Taygeta, and CharlesS!

Comma - Don't reveal any seekrit information about HSTs! Unless you are here trying to gather it.

Christopher Marlowe - Good news! I hope the evening is interesting as well as productive.

wolfguard - With regard to IE, I find it getting slower and clunkier, but when posting here, it allows fat posts without re-editing. That's mostly what I use it for these days. Otherwise I wind up with skinny posts that I have to tinker with.

*grump* Cedar. It's supposed to be a low levels, headache yesterday, just tired today. It's NOT the most wonderful time of the year.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Jan 26 01:34:35 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Good luck!

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Jan 26 00:53:05 2018 100.4.183.212)
Chris Marlowe - Nice. Is the 911 class related to
the job interview?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jan 25 23:51:23 2018 209.159.255.231)
Also..taking a 'citizen's academy' class with 911 Dispatch. Should be an interesting night. It will probably mean I will be offline most of the night...I hope to be able to post a bit about it anyways in general terms.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Jan 25 23:43:31 2018 209.159.255.231)
Woot!!! Getting called in to a job interview next week!!!!


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