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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Oct 5 11:51:10 2018 108.32.39.54)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for catriona!

yay catriona!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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Maverick says:
(Fri Oct 5 07:33:15 2018 68.51.139.52)
Wolfguard: When people berate Muslims as always being ready to kill others, this line from The Bible quoting Jesus is often cited as proof that Jesus was also a ready killer.

"But as for those my enemies who would not have me reign over them, bring them hither and kill them before me." - Luke 19-27

How does this make you feel about Christianity? How do you feel about what Jesus said?


Maverick


cc: DaddyCatALSO, white wings, Agent Cooper, ChristopherMarlowe


Maverick


Superfreak




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Maverick says:
(Fri Oct 5 06:51:45 2018 68.51.139.52)
Wolfguard: The quote goes like so:

"Just a little quote from the Quran, the holy book of the Muslims.

'if any one killed a person, it would be as if he killed the whole of mankind; and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole of mankind' - The Holy Quran (Chapter Five, Verse 32)."

Now, what do think this says about Islam? How does this make you feel about Islam?


cc: DaddyCatALSO, white wings, Agent Cooper, ChristopherMarlowe


Maverick


Spooky




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white wings says:
(Fri Oct 5 03:11:39 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay elreyn24!

Happy Birthday Angelika, AngelOfMusic, elcamino, Lurker, magista, PreBuffy, and Vofschrift!


Agent Cooper - Once again you give a very clear-headed description of Christopher Marlowe's choices. *g*

wolfguard - I never thought you were trying to excuse what happened with the internment, (or would), but I did think you were implying that it was silly to believe that it could happen again. I am using it and the other situations as a few examples of darkness emerging from civilization, and saying that this generation is not immune from danger because human nature has not changed. Witness the holocaust deniers in Europe and the rise of anti-Semitism in this country and in Europe. What's happening in the Middle East is a different matter.

Your speculation of the factors at work in California makes me think that all of those factors were at play. I don't think that much, if any, of the land found its way to government hands. The federal government had to be the one to initiate the internments, but I don't think it would have happened without a lot of local encouragement. I vaguely remember from reading that an attack on the Pacific coast was greatly feared, and not just in California. Remember, we'd lost a large proportion of our Pacific fleet. Or the whole fleet. I don't recall my parents speaking of that, in particular, but they seemed to be more aware of Europe in their reminiscences. I mainly remember my mother's description of being in a movie theater with my father when the showing was stopped and the announcement was made. They might have been shocked that it had happened as it had, but she said that the young men just got up and silently filed out to join or report to the military, as if something long planned for had occurred. But I digress.

There are other possibilities for why no one in Hawaii was interned. One might be that the officials necessary to facilitate it could have been Japanese-American (that would have been awkward), and another might be that more of the best land was owned by other ethnic groups. A third possibility might be that there were so many that everyone knew and liked each other. In California, the Japanese population was physically different, and I think they held very strongly to themselves, with little outside socialization.

I don't have numbers to push any of those theories strongly, I only mention them as possibilities. I think that there was not a similar push to intern German Americans, in spite of there being much more Nazi subversive activity, because too many people (including the government) had German ancestry. For that matter, so do I, among other things. *g* I think there might have been more suspicion in Great Britain. Remember that the Royal Family changed their family name in 1917 to a more British one.

You ask if any Chinese-Americans were caught up in it. I do not think so, unless there were a few accidents. Your typical white Americans might not have been able to tell the difference, but the Chinese-American community would have been able to see at a glance, not to mention the difference in names. The Chinese would not have been regarded as enemies, because they had also been invaded, and we were supporting them. John Wayne was commanding Flying Tigers on the big screen (or was that Jimmy Stewart, or both?) Probably not Jimmy Stewart, wasn't he actually serving? Or was that later in the Berlin Crisis?

I suspect that in Northern Ireland everyone knew who everyone else was. I don't know about the Hutu/Tutsi, but I'm willing to bet there are physical differences that a local would spot instantly, even if an outsider could not.

In this country today, no one could depend on physical appearance to tell where anyone stands philosophically. But this is the digital age. If someone outs his or herself, s/he can be marked down. Digital files can be flagged. Remember Obama's Operation Chokepoint, where banks were forced to deny services to companies of whom the administration disapproved (notably gun manufacturers)? New York is trying it right now with the NRA by denying them insurers. Something similar could be effected for individuals, probably using the Patriot Act as a springboard. Deny someone financial services or credit and they might disappear. With Facebook/Twitter/Google/Amazon one could find people who might follow them or associate with them or communicate with them, and you could destroy a person's entire support network and silence everything. The building blocks are in place. The Chinese already have a beta version working.

I'm tired of philosophy. I need food.

The End. :P



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri Oct 5 02:35:55 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Science!
Question: Who was the first woman to win a Nobel prize?
Answer: Marie Curie!

Trivia no Prize! Agent Cooper!

Apologies for the delay, I was at a workshop then went straight for a expo.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Oct 5 01:11:31 2018 4.28.180.2)
White Wings,

It was not my intent to excuse the behavior in California, but to note the
difference as a springboard towards asking why there was a difference. By
emotional logic, those Japanese-Americans closest to the surprise attack
should have been the target of the government and general public's response.
1 Two cursory explanations I've heard are (1) the Japanese-
Americans needed to be free to harvest the pineapple crop, (2) there were
too many Japanese-Americans in Hawaii to make it practical to intern them.

I'd not be at all surprised that some private citizens pushed for the
internment as a way to acquire Japanese-American's property. I'd also not be
surprised if most citizens did not push for it, but certainly seized the
opportunity to get stuff on the cheap. The relevant question with respect to
the current situation is whether the government 2 used
the public's fear and anger as a way to acquire the Japanese-Americans'
property. That said, this speculation is probably wrong if the profits of
the fire-side sales went into private hands.3

I suspect or have really vague memories that some Americans believed
preemptive action should have been taken against German-Americans during WW1
and WW2. I believe it did not happen largely because it was hard to
distinguish German-Americans from other European-Americans. OTOH ...

Britain/North Ireland - Protestant/Catholic - How do both sides know each
other? They self-segregate? Ethnic differences in dialect, clothing, etc.?

Rwanda - Hutu/Tutsi - How do both sides know each other? One expert said if
you had 10 Rwandans line-up and asked a stranger identify each person as
Being either Hutu or Tutsi, then that person might have 40% success. As with
Northern Ireland I'm going to guess it's personal-communal history of who is
who.

Anyway, the internment of Japanese-Americans was possible, because of guilt
by association combined with a physical appearance that set them apart from
the greater citizenry. Could the same happen to Americans whose beliefs and
views differ from fill-in-the-black.5

Write a scenario or two.


1 Though there appear to have been many in California who
expected Japanese attacks along the west coast. See "The Battle of Los
Angeles" c. winter of 1942.

2 I don't know, but assume the laws behind the internment came
from the Federal government and not the California state government. But,
could be wrong.

3 To be sure, all such sales legally would have been taxed by
California and/or the federal government. OTOH, the original owners' use of
their property would, as a matter of course, have produced taxable revenue.

4 I wonder if any Chinese-Americans got caught up in the
hysteria?

5 Based on some posters' labels - liberals, Democrats, lefties,
etc.


WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu Oct 4 17:02:16 2018 199.127.148.6|199.127.148.4)
wolfguard in the case of what I call "Mullahcratism," the word is "believes."


white wings Very much so.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Oct 4 14:59:34 2018 66.152.102.250)
Trivia Girl - Felicia Day!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Oct 4 13:50:24 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today Thursday, October 4th 2018 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7) Birthdays!


Angelika
AngelOfMusic
elcamino
Lurker
magista
PreBuffy
Vofschrift

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Angelika, AngelOfMusic, elcamino, Lurker, magista, PreBuffy, Vofschrift!



Pretty cool except for the part where I was really terrified and now my knees are all dizzy. Willow, 'Listening to Fear''''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Oct 4 13:45:18 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Science!
Question: Who was the first woman to win a Nobel prize?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Oct 4 13:38:45 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay elreyn24!


Happy CD Thursday!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Oct 4 13:35:42 2018 66.152.102.250)
Chris Marlowe: You need to stop and think about how your obsessive need to fulfill real life obligations - like making a living and actively participating in your community - effects us here on the Bronze.

:-P



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Oct 4 11:41:57 2018 108.32.39.54)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for elreyn24!

yay elreyn24!


Happy CD Thursday!



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white wings says:
(Thu Oct 4 03:59:42 2018 70.112.135.184)
Christopher Marlowe - How much of your busy life is created by volunteering? *g* Somehow I don't see you kicking back and doing much resting any time soon. It just isn't in you. ;-)

I hope you get at least a good night's rest.



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white wings says:
(Thu Oct 4 03:54:08 2018 70.112.135.184)
wolfguard - I believe there were no internments in Hawaii. Only of Japanese-Americans on the continental Pacific coast, which just happened to be where they owned the most valuable and coveted land, and weren't part of the government or a large part of the population. They were given an absurdly short time to arrange for their land, homes, and possessions, either to sell them at fire sale prices or rent them to people who found ways to gain ownership of them. They were allowed to take what they could carry into the camps. There weren't executions and torture and starvation, but there was a lot of trauma and grief. My SIL was given up for adoption as an infant in a camp by a desperate mother whose husband had been deported and who had other very young children. Japanese don't typically give up children. After the war, the family spent years locating her husband in Japan, and years longer getting him back to this country. But they said that for the rest of her life she never permitted anyone to speak of the internment camps, and the children actually had no memory of the infant that had been my SIL. The younger generation are open to the idea, but the siblings find so much shame in the concept of an adoption that they can't yet bring themselves to meet. They may never do so. The internees very seldom regained any of their former lands.

The fact that it wasn't done in Hawaii doesn't excuse what happened in California, Oregon, and Washington. The fact that it hasn't happened since then doesn't mean that we, as a people, aren't still capable of doing the exact same thing that our parents did, if we don't watch ourselves. Those were desperate times, and people were afraid, and in fact there were many worse things going on in the world. I'm just saying that it doesn't do to simply ignore some behaviors and say we're just being hysterical to worry, that nothing really bad is happening or will happen.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Oct 4 03:29:19 2018 4.28.180.2)
Yay Thoin!


Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question



Which of the scoobies has the same favorite candy as you and what is it?


Giles. The original Cadbury milk chocolate.



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Oct 4 02:31:07 2018 209.159.255.231)
I really wish my days were less busy....



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Oct 4 02:27:36 2018 4.28.180.2)
Agent Cooper,

Name some names of those wanting to "deconstruct".


White Wings,

I know those cases. There have been no internment camps since WWII. As I
remember, Japanese-Americans in Hawaii were not interned. More later.


DaddyCatALSO,

The common denominator of the people and ideologies you listed is they
believed society came before the individual and society was directed by a
small group at the top.



WG



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white wings says:
(Thu Oct 4 01:34:04 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay Thoin!

Happy Birthday Beowulf!


Comma - Frightening! Thanks for passing the warning.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Oct 3 22:37:00 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: Who was Kate Lockley's
father?
Answer: Trevor Lockley

Trivia master: no one!
Trivia newbie: Agent Cooper!



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Comma says:
(Wed Oct 3 16:15:18 2018 75.143.154.113)
If any of all that know anyone in the Indian Mounds area of Tennessee, please contact them to see if they are ok. This is in the Tennessee counties of Montgomery and Stewart. There is a manhunt for a man who has killed two in a home invasion, and is a suspect in several other home invasions. His name is Kirby Wallace. He is in the woods, wearing camouflage, and is considered very dangerous. He has tried, over night, to break into at least two homes, without successes. He is armed, and I said before, very dangerous.

Comma



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Oct 3 14:21:50 2018 66.152.102.250)
Trivia Girl: Fenrir Grayback!



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Scunniff says:
(Wed Oct 3 13:28:21 2018 104.51.146.76)
Just looking at the site



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Oct 3 12:44:20 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: Who was Kate Lockley's father?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Oct 3 12:27:55 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today Wednesday, October 3rd 2018 C.E.

We have One (1) Birthdays!


Beowulf

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Beowolf!



Do I wish I was somebody else right now. Somebody not... married, not madly in love with a beautiful woman who can kill me with her pinkie! Wash, 'Our Mrs. Reynolds'

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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Oct 3 12:27:24 2018 108.32.39.54)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for thoin!

yay thoin!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

the sunnydale candy co. - try our gummy demons

which of the scoobies has the same favorite candy as you and what is it?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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white wings says:
(Wed Oct 3 02:49:28 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay Cashmere

Happy Birthday CLAIRE, Pam, and TheJudge!

Ebdim9th - Yes, Alien Nation deserved better. I liked that show. But I have to say that watching several shows in a row, with the perspective of time, the show was visually drab. The only exception seemed to be scenes with Uncle Moodri.

wolfguard - Ah, Jade Helm. It was fun to suspect the administration of running a training exercise on martial law. I'm not convinced they weren't thinking along those lines. *g* What is this FEMA twitter test of which you speak? Never mind, I googled. Well, dang, I'll just be going into a doctor's office, and it will just be a distraction.

With regard to peer pressure interventions, and how some would interpret them, bingo! *g* Actually, there's some merit to the idea, because just as we have students being groomed to cast out those who are not like themselves, they could be groomed to accept them peacefully . However, students could be groomed to do just about anything that someone directed, by this same means if the mechanism were perfected. The data collection about students from students is not totally comforting. "Anti-prejudice" sounds a whole lot like the anti-hate speech measures of Europe, which are taking on a very disquieting air reminiscent of the social control and snitching of fascist and communist governments. Cc Christopher Marlowe

DaddyCatALSO - I may have my facts wrong, but I think that what D'Souza did wrong was funnel money through a friend of his, so that he didn't directly exceed limits, but his money did. Unlike Rosie O'Donnell,who freely admitted directly exceeding limits.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Oct 3 02:20:05 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I was intrigued on
how they determined the 'social
referents'. They didn't ask 'who is
the most popular', they asked a
more unbiased question. Which made
me think if that could be
replicated on a large scale in the
adult community.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Oct 3 01:46:04 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

I suspect many parents were not surprised that peer pressure is more potent
than authority figures. I also suspect some people will see such interventions
as examples of social engineering and "re-education". There's a new book out,
~ "The Coddling of the American Mind". One of its themes is that universities'
programs to create safe spaces creates people who cannot deal well with
adversity and controversy.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Oct 3 01:30:26 2018 209.159.255.231)
Edited: Wed Oct 3 01:33:31 2018
wolfguard I was just reading about this woman

Besty Levy Paluck and
read one of her research papers.

Paluck and collaborators have engaged nearly 25,000 students in nearly 60
schools in New Jersey in a series of investigations around bullying,
harassment, and prejudice. She identified peer "social referents," or students
with a high degree of visibility in the school, through a social network
analysis based on data from students about who they spent time with either in
person or online. She and her team then conducted field experiments and
corrective interventions simultaneously to examine how anti-prejudice
interventions that target specific individuals diffuse through groups. In
addition to confirming the power of peers, rather than adult authority, to
spread tolerant behaviors through social networks, Paluck's intervention model
led to a significant reduction in harassment and other negative behavior. She
determined in subsequent experiments that the behavior change could be traced
to perceived social norms.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Oct 3 00:50:43 2018 4.28.180.2)
Now I have friends on the left who are afraid the FEMA twitter test is a
prelude to martial law. A few years ago it was friends on the right fearing
"Jade Helm" was the beginning of the end.

WG



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Ebdim9th says:
(Wed Oct 3 00:44:09 2018 174.235.154.203)
white wings I have both the movie (vhs) and the tv series (dvd) of Alien Nation.... it deserved more time than it got.... the one season disease has struck down many a show, even prior to the internet age....



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Oct 2 23:11:57 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Which woman was the only one not affected by the love spell in 'Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered'?
Answer: Cordy

Trivia Masters: Agent Cooper, Maverick!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Oct 2 20:54:25 2018 4.28.180.2)
Drive-By

Agent Cooper, DaddyCatALSO, & White Wings -

Just saw your posts. Will read, ponder, and reply later tonight.


Maverick,

A conclusion is only as good as its premises. If your historical facts are
inaccurate, then your conclusions have no substance. Some would say,
'garbage in, garbage out.' A professor might say, "Your conclusion may be
correct, but it remains to be argued. Try again."

Meanwhile, two 'assignments'...

(1) You were once a self-described "Leftie". Tell us about your personal
journey to the where you are now in your thinking.

(2) Explain how one can identify a person on the left from a person on the
right based on observations of behaviors.



WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Oct 2 17:32:29 2018 66.152.102.250)
Trivia Girl: Cordelia!

One of my all time favorite eps!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Oct 2 16:32:02 2018 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard Maverick Agent Cooper white wings

1- D'Souza: While I'm sure campaign finance laws have plenty of gray areas, the limits on the amounts of donations are fairly clear statements of numbers. So contributing too much is kind of a "What were you thinking" moment. And I've heard of much more stupid conditions included with a sentence.

2- Tojoism was a form of fascism. The Kuomintang in China were flirting with it for a while. And Peronism was a mix but more Fascist than Communist. I saw a book back in the 70s which used Mussolini, Hitler, Tojo, and PEron as the four examples of fascism. Guys like Salazar, Metaxa, Franco, Antonescu etc. were classified by that a uthor as "traditionalist rather than fascist."


3- As for books, 10 Books That Screwed Up the World: And 5 Others That Didn't Help & 10 Books Every Conservative Must Read: Plus Four Not to Miss and One Impostor by Benjamin Wiker both indirectly germane to t he subject and, as a methodological corrective to some presuppositions. Ten Philosophical Mistakes by Mortimer J. Adler



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Oct 2 16:11:30 2018 206.124.19.175)
Trivia Girl
Cordelia



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Oct 2 14:29:22 2018 66.152.102.250)
Chris Marlowe: OK, fine. So we have a year to really spruce the place up. We could remodel the whole place, give it a real makeover. I never liked that weird scaffolding up there anyway. And why is it so dark in here?

Thing is, we'd need to come up with the money for all this. Then again, if Thoin ever paid up her bar tab, we'd have enough cash to remodel this bar and build another one next door.

Wolfguard: Cooler heads are prevailing so far. But there are real, imminent threats out there. There's manufactured fear out there, yes, but it isn't ALL just manufactured fear. There are people in power right now in this country that want to deconstruct it as it is now and rebuild it in their own image, with themselves on top. It's not a fantasy, it's very real. There have always been people like this, and there always will be and they will always be a threat. Out constitution and culture have defended us from this kind of tyranny for a long time, but now some very bad people see a chance to pounce. And they have not been idle.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Oct 2 12:45:03 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Which woman was the only one not affected by the love spell in 'Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered'?



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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Oct 2 12:30:28 2018 73.58.128.92)
Yay! Cashmere!


Belated Yay! Irene Adler, Glow
Boy
and Phoenix!


Belated Happy Birthday Myslayre,
notsoShyGirl, paks
and MTVA!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Oct 2 12:28:37 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today Tuesday, October 2nd 2018 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


~*~CLAIRE~*~
Pam
TheJudge

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to CLAIRE, Pam, TheJudge!



Willow: It feels like we're going around in circles. Xander: Our circles are going around in circles. We got dizzy circles here. 'Shadow''

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Oct 2 12:22:36 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay cashmere!

deadguy qod I think all of them still are, although there were only two actual Halloween episodes! I can see them going out, if not necessarily dressing up.


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Oct 2 11:33:09 2018 108.32.39.54)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for cashmere

yay cashmere!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

ethan's old tyme costume shoppe

which of the scoobies is still into halloween?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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white wings says:
(Tue Oct 2 04:50:55 2018 70.112.135.184)
Edited: Tue Oct 2 06:37:15 2018
wolfguard - You didnt ask another pertinent question, which is "Is there any evidence that
the psychiatric sessions to which Dinesh D'Souza was ordered had the objective of changing his
political views?" The answer to that is that I know of none. He could have spoken freely of it since
his pardon, and if he did, I never heard it.

True, he's a sample of one. He just happened to make Barack Obama really, really angry at him
personally. I expect that psychiatric sessions are ordered regularly, and are warranted. I expect that
to occur when there have been violent episodes, threats of violence, threats of self-harm, and
generally dysfunctional behavior. I do not think that a reasonable person would (yet) consider
favoring another political party or making a contribution in a somewhat illegal fashion to be evidence
of a psychiatric disturbance. Possibly it's just a piling on of onerous conditions to make a person
deeply regret having angered the wrong people. I think that odd campaign contributions are often
ignored unless you make the wrong person angry. Rosie O'Donnell has publicly and gleefully
admitted to making illegal contributions, and no one has gone after her. Of course, that was in
California, and to Democrats. The State of New York is still so unhappy with D'Souza that after a
presidential pardon, state AG hopefuls were campaigning on a promise of hitting him with a state
charge for the same action, so he wouldn't "get away with it".

As for the judge, I do not know. Perhaps he's like an admitting doctor I was told of at a state
hospital. The state has always had trouble getting medical staff on the state salary schedule. This
particular admitting physician was a proctologist. Guess what kind of exam people were required to
have when being admitted to that particular state hospital? For those who would be alarmed, it
happened a long, long time ago. Possibly in the '60s, because I heard the story in the early '70s.
So perhaps this judge considers irregular financial behavior to be evidence of a threat to oneself or
others? I somehow doubt it, but I don't feel like looking it up.

Russia doesn't have re-education camps Asian style either. It has psychiatric facilities. Mind, I don't
think that people are expected to emerge from them any healthier (if at all) post-Putin, but that's
what they call them.

This country has had internment camps, and while they were not concentration camps, don't kid
yourself that they were kind, gentle places to be. George Takei's childhood memories aren't like
everyone's experiences. They were places where frightened people who had been suddenly and
"legally" robbed of all their possessions were placed. If some family members were Japanese
citizens, they were deported and their families split up without any choice in the matter. Pregnant
women with multiple children and infants would be moved around, never knowing where they might
wind up. The facilities were often in wretched windswept places, and they were uninsulated barrack
type buildings.

This country has had spells of sterilizing people that were deemed unfit. There was a spell of giving
them frontal lobotomies. It wasn't done by class. Jackie Kennedy's sister was given one.

This country housed the Tuskegee experiment where a group of black men was infected with
syphilis, and then studied to observe the progression. For the rest of their lives the US government
prevented them from being given available treatment, first for clinical observation, and then as a
cover-up.

This country is capable of exceedingly dark institutionalized behavior. This country is made up of
humans, and humans are capable of such behavior.

When someone has authority over another, the first person needs to be watched. If you don't like
Paine, go for Roddenberry: "Who watches the watchers?"



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Oct 2 01:58:51 2018 4.28.180.2)
White Wings,

Dinesh D'Souza is a sample of one. Some quick questions ...

1 - How often do judges include psychiatric assessment or treatment in their
sentencing?

2 - Have any self-identified liberals or Democrats been so sentenced?

3 - With respect to the judge, Berman (?), what's his record in sentencing
convicted defendants with psychiatric or psychological assessment or
treatment?


Agent Cooper & White Wings,

I was raised in the 60s in a neighborhood that had a Jewish community. I
learned about the Holocaust at the breakfast table. My first discussion of
substance on international relations dealt with Israeli's defense policies.
I personally knew people who survived Nazi concentration camps. I have know
people who survived "re-education" camps in Southeast Asia.

The US does not have re-education camps.


While you appear to be seeing signs of a Uber-Left dictatorship, some people
on the left see signs of Neo--Nazi dictatorship. Brains are being over-
driven by their limbic systems. If there's a civil war, it'll be because
you're too scared of each other not to fight. Some of you, both sides, want
to fight. Cut from the same cloth.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Oct 2 00:03:35 2018 209.159.255.231)
Agent Cooper I suspect it might take another year! new season is upon us, and they haven't written/or cast the reboot yet!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Oct 1 22:58:37 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Funny Stuff
Question: "Thanks For the Memory" was the signature tune of what comedian?
Answer: Bob Hope

trivia masters: nosoShyGirl
trivia comedian: Maverick



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white wings says:
(Mon Oct 1 21:46:14 2018 70.112.135.184)
Agent Cooper - Yes, too many constitutionalists on the SC could set the cause of undoing the constitution back for decades.

Citizens United was bad enough. All that whining about excess spending, and everyone ignored the little exchange between the lawyers and Justice Roberts, when he asked if they would interpret a certain finding as allowing them to ban books, and they said almost verbatim, "Yes, but trust us, we would never do that." I swear I saw frost forming on my monitor as I read Roberts' subsequent exchanges. I guess Roberts didn't trust them.

One wonders what a man subjected to this kind of treatment, and intelligent enough to conclude what drives it, would do if successfully appointed to the SC. Perhaps continue as he began, perhaps that would be sufficient.

Maverick - It would have been if I wore high heels. *bap* I've had more fun.



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Maverick says:
(Mon Oct 1 21:31:47 2018 68.51.139.52)
Edited: Tue Oct 2 07:08:32 2018
Trivia Girl: Georgie Jessell (I'll bet you thought you'd never seen that name again.) BTW, he was (unofficial) "Toastmaster General of the United States."


Wolfguard1: Oh, you're not going to spoil my triumph. I just scanned (as a TIFF) a document and attached it to an e-mail and sent it to my niece. A nice bit of learning, methinks. Now, if I could only scan it as a PDF file. Or edit my TIFF (I think that's possible.)


Wolfguard2: I'm so old I was around when they were wondering how to translate the Russian to English (J/K.) I'm sure I would blow bourgeoisie however, so I'll look it up. As usual you can recite chapter and verse on a subject, but miss the point. The Left always does the same things. They promise the moon but deliver green cheese: they promise Income Equality but deliver Shared Poverty. They promise to punish those against whom the uneducated have their envious resentments. They then take away guns (weapons) based on spurious reasonings and they then kill their defenseless enemies (after sometimes putting them in those blue-education camps.) Assigned readings: Solzhenitsyn's "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich," Ayn Rand's "We The Living," Koestler's "Darkness at Noon," and, of course, Orwell's "1984." It is ever thus. History. The Bolsheviks, the Nazis, the Fascists, the Russian Communists, the Chinese Communists, the Khmer Rouge. (Who else? Some other Eastern Europeans? The Japanese were not Leftists?) ETA- almost forgot Castro in Cuba and wait till they start killing in Venezuela) The Leftists killed Hundreds of Millions. The latest incarnation of Leftists was thwarted (temporarily) by Trumpism. But they are still plotting their coup. I wish I knew where their central Boiler Room is located.


white wings: Two broken ankles? At the same time? That must have been tough with high heels.


Maverick


96 Tears




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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Oct 1 20:46:40 2018 66.152.102.250)
White Wings: While I'm not quite as alarmed as Mav yet, I'm also not quite as optimistic as Wolfguard either.

Hate Speech is a made up term used to punish people for saying things the Powers That Be don't like. It's an utterly preposterous concept that has gained a frightening legitimacy among many useful fools who assume that THEIR powers that be will ALWAYS be the Powers That Be. Spoiler: They Won't be.

In europe, right now today, you can go to jail for saying the wrong thing out loud. Literally, the police will come to your house and arrest you if you criticize some current darling of the government's fancy.

There are people advocating for this kind of speech control here in the US. This is a real threat and not some invented boogeyman.

It's also the tip of a VERY slippery slope.

The biggest obstacle these folks see to the implementation of this kind of speech control is that darn pesky constitution, that protects people from this kind of control. They'd like more than enything to tear it up and burn it. Because it has crazy things like the 1st and 2nd amendments and especially that stupid 12th amendment that's really burning them up right now.

As part of a the plan to eliminate or circumvent the constitution, you need to plant a certain kind of judge on as many courts as you can, but ideally on the Supreme Court. That's the big enchilada.

What you DO NOT want is any judge who might, you know, rule based on the constitution as written. That puts a huge monkey wrench in the Grand Scheme of total government control, total power. The constitution gives the people power over the govt. Can't have that.

Knowing this, you now know the ultimate end game, the real struggle in this country right now and why one side will go to ANY and I mean ANY lengths whatsoever to oppose the nomination of anything that even smells like a constitutional judge on the SC.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Oct 1 20:31:54 2018 66.152.102.250)
White Wings: Not to worry. We've taken precautions in the form of a comprehensive insurance policy with Werewolves of London TM.

If somebody slips on the floor and files a claim, our underwriters will eat them and discretely dispose of the bodies handle everything.



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white wings says:
(Mon Oct 1 20:21:55 2018 70.112.135.184)
Agent Cooper - Wax floors? You want waxed floors? What if the newcomers slip on them? What if we slip on them? I've had the experience of two broken ankles at the same time, and it's not that much fun.

But if you insist, check the Haz-mat closet for a buffer. It's right over there somewhere.



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white wings says:
(Mon Oct 1 20:10:21 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay greeneyes!

Happy Birthday Bri, green falcon, Kevin UK, Lemmy, MTVA, ninja, OzFan, Scurb, and Bubbles!


Agent Cooper - Whatever would we do without you? ;-)

wolfguard - While the danger of blue-educationtm Agent Cooper camps for adults might not be as imminent as Maverick has expressed, the concept has already been taking place on a quieter, smaller scale. Do you recall that Dinesh D'Souza was sentenced, among other things, to have psychiatric counselling? For an illegal campaign contribution? REALLY? When I first heard that, re-education was the first thing that came to my mind.

The schools are now pre-education camps. They now close even elementary schools in places so the students can protest for left-wing causes, and will contribute school buses to transport people to the rallies. That's not just from the news - I have it from a former poster of our acquaintance now in Maryland, with whom I can discuss anything but politics. She was very proud of their schools for that. But it's happened a lot of places, even in Texas, if I am remembering the news correctly. Elsewhere, an uppity teacher who inquired if the schools would close for a pro-life cause was placed on leave. A student who refused to walk out with the others was suspended. We all know what happens if student groups want to invite right-wing speakers to universities - that kind of deviant thinking cannot be allowed.

So, yes, thought control is creeping into our society. At least we aren't so lost to common law as to legally ban "hate speech", where "hate speech" is defined as anything that offends anyone else and punished by imprisonment. Even the British have lost their history. I think that Canada and Australia have followed suit, although I'm not so certain of Australia. It does worry me. Heck, we can't even say that if something happens we'll flounce off to some other part of the world, because there's nowhere to flounce to. The Alliance Firefly is taking over the whole dang world. Pretty soon they'll be trying to take over the skyFirefly.

At any rate, I don't think it is wise to be dismissive of the idea. Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty, remember?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Mon Oct 1 19:37:37 2018 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard Maverick Christopher Marlowe I saw a $24 model in the atore Sunday so will just go t hat route. Sure, it's manual but when I have a DVD in I have to get up to put it in/take it out anyway; I need fewer excuses to lay down anywya.Good thing I put the dVd remote ina safe drawer when thyme brought in the new cable.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Oct 1 19:29:04 2018 66.152.102.250)
So when is the new Buffy series gonna start? We need to get ready for the influx of new visitors to the Bronze!

We should at least maybe dust a little. Maybe wax the floors.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Oct 1 17:56:58 2018 66.152.102.250)
Technically, they won't be Red-Education Camps. They'll be Blue-Education Camps. Amiright?

*rimshot*

You guys are so lucky to have me around. Seriously.



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Oct 1 16:10:41 2018 71.56.125.67)
Drive-By
Thanks to a friend's computer.

To those Bronzers who stand left-of-center, consider reading Maverick's
most recent post to me. Specifically, where he writes ~ Trump is why the Right
has not (yet) been put into red-education camps by the Left.1 This may
be exaggeration on his part, a bit of hyperbole, but if it is not consider it
shows a level of fear similar to that conveyed by those women who protest Trump
by dressing as "Handmaidens" outside Congress.

1 For those too young to remember, 're-education camps' are where
communists/totalitarian run countries send people to get on board with proper
thinking, feeling, behaving. It's where the 'deplorables' go whose existence does
not warrant a bullet.


WG



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Oct 1 14:46:43 2018 206.124.19.175)
Trivia Girl
Bob Hope



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Oct 1 12:45:46 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Funny Stuff
Question: "Thanks For the Memory" was the signature tune of what comedian?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Oct 1 12:37:01 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today Monday, October 1st 2018 C.E.

We have EIGHT (8) Birthdays!


Bri
green falcon
Kevin UK
Lemmy
Muffy the Vampire Annoyer
ninja
OzFan
Scurb and Bubbles

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Bri, green falcon, Kevin UK, Lemmy, Muffy the Vampire Annoyer, ninja, OzFan, Scurb and Bubbles!



I'm so evil and... skanky. And I think I'm kinda gay. Willow, 'Doppelgangland'''''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Oct 1 12:30:52 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay greeneyes!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Oct 1 11:23:32 2018 108.32.39.54)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for greeneyes!

yay greeneyes!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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white wings says:
(Mon Oct 1 02:47:30 2018 70.112.135.184)
Christopher Marlowe - Giles liked it. He told Buffy so in WTTH, remember?
*g*

I admit, I am more of your opinion. ;-)



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Oct 1 01:50:00 2018 71.56.125.67)
Maverick,

And then there's the spelling. It's "Bolshevik" not "Boleshevik". Lenin's crew
did not create the revolution. As you may recall, Lenin was not in Russia when
the revolution started and the Tsar had abdicated in March - Lenin returned in
April (courtesy of Germany). The Bolsheviks instigated a coup against the
fledgling government and then followed the Russian civil war which was won by
the Bolsheviks.

As to Mao capturing China ... he captured the Chinese Communist Party. The
Party won the Chinese Civil War. The more important questions involve how China
came to be in the condition where it began falling apart during the 19th
century leading to the end of the Emperor, the rise of the Nationalists and
Communists, the interlude of the Great Pacific War, the return to civil warn
and the triumph of the CCP in 1949. Do you have the time?

President Trump is a symptom. Eventually he will be gone. Will he leave
anything of substance behind - for good or ill? Will his solid core be enough
to win reelection? We'll see. Civil War? Pfft.

Having computer problems tonight. In fact, using someone else's now. This may
be last post for a day or so,


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Oct 1 01:28:37 2018 209.159.255.231)
white wings Googled Bovril, ack!



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white wings says:
(Sun Sep 30 23:10:50 2018 70.112.135.184)
Happy Birthday Asanti, blueronin, BuffyRileySlayTA, Memnoch, and notsoShyGirl!


Christopher Marlowe - Or a nice cup of Bovril? *g*

Ebdim9th - I see you too! I stumbled on an airing of Alien Nation
yesterday. I enjoyed it, but the color tones were/are drab. I think the green
of a Hulk would have been welcome by the time I drifted away. *g*



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Sep 30 22:32:55 2018 209.159.255.231)
A Chilly, raining day here in South Dakota. Perfect for tea and books.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Sep 30 17:46:48 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today Sunday, September 30th 2018 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


Asanti
blueronin
BuffyRileySlayTA
Memnoch
ShyGirl aka notsoShyGirl

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Asanti, blueronin, BuffyRileySlayTA, Memnoch, notsoShyGirl



Zoe: We're getting him back. Jayne: What are we gonna do, clone him? 'War Stories'''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Sep 30 14:52:22 2018 209.159.255.231)
good morning beta!



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Maverick says:
(Sun Sep 30 07:22:04 2018 68.51.139.52)
DaddyCatALSO: Funny you should mention that switch. It set me off to searching about my home, trying to find the one I bought about 3 or 4 years ago (or maybe longer ago) and never actually took out of the box. I had a problem with an old TV and I had multiple input sources but limited input jacks at the back of that old TV (for instance I had a DVD player (regular) and a Blu-Ray DVD player, and a Roku that worked off my Comcast Wi-Fi and I even had (have) an audio-only source (record turntable) and I was wanting to be able to switch source of input without getting out of my chair.) The A/B switch had a wireless remote switcher with it and cost around $40. Since I bought the switch I got a great deal on an Element 36" flat screen TV for around $135, and it's beautiful and has a great big picture (and it's light versus the hernia-inducing bulk of my old TV) and has MANY inputs that can be selected right from the TV remote, rendering my switch superfluous, so I lost track of it. If I can find it, I'll send it to you (for the shipping fee.) Is that what you're talking about?


Wolfguard: With all this talk about book/movie genres and James Bond origins, I'm fascinated. The expression "rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic" comes to mind. The country is falling apart and armed insurrection and civil war is a distinct possibility. The Left still hasn't gotten over losing the Trump election and Resist has gotten irrational. If you're going to "research" anything, I'd suggest the Boleshevik Revolution and/or Mao's takeover of China. The top echelons of the FBI have been corrupted and the President is under siege from the Left (which includes the Media.) Trump is the only one preventing the Right from having to occupy Re-education camps. They (the Left) had it all in their sights and their disappointment is palpable and visceral. This fight over Brett Kavanaugh is even worse than the one over Clarence Thomas.


Maverick


What Is Love?




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wolfguard says:
(Sun Sep 30 05:15:34 2018 71.56.125.67)
Edited: Sun Sep 30 05:24:28 2018
DaddyCatALSO,

I don't know anything about the subject you're facing.




Ian Fleming, author of the original James Bond novels, delighted in
corresponding with fans, critics, and others in the publishing business.
Fergus Fleming has compiled a book of some of Fleming's exchanges. It's
titled The Man with the Golden Typewriter (Fleming had a gold
typewriter). Fascinating and fun read.

As well as being an author, Fleming was a news correspondent and publisher.
I note this, because he continued doing both during the ten odd years over
which he wrote his Bond novels (I think he wrote 12 novels and one volume of
short stories). His first Bond book was Casino Royale. After
finishing the manuscript he put off finding a publisher, because he thought
poorly of what he had written. Called it "adolescent tripe."

Fleming took pride in getting facts and details correct. Consequently, he
did research. If a fan or critic questioned some aspect of the story and
Fleming felt the fan or critic were correct, then he would extend an offer
for their help in improving future works. Probably the classic example was
Majpr Geoffrey Boothroyd, a firearms expert, that took Fleming gently to
task for arming Bond with a .25 calibre Beretta. ~ A lady's gun and a nasty
lady at that. Boothroyd offered and Fleming accepted so much advice that
Fleming created an armorer named Boothroyd who M brought in to rearm Bond
after the Beretta was seen to have failed on a mission (you can read the
scene in Doctor No.) ETA the scene where Boothroyd selects for Bond,
the Walther PPK.1 I read the scene 40+ years ago, but I remember
the Major has Bond take off his jacket, shoulder holster and Beretta, so to
size up the subject he was going to arm. Bond thinks to himself that the
Major is looking at him as did his first private tailor. *g*

Though Fleming prized research, once he began writing a Bond novel he didn't
look back. Fleming wrote fast. ~ Don't look back!


1 In the first or one of the first exchanges, Boothroyd suggest
Fleming arm Bond with a Smith & Wesson Centennial for close-up work and a
Smith and Wesson .357 revolver with long barrel for distant work. Fleming
somehow got it mixed up and armed Bond with the now famous Walther PPK and
the S&W Centennial for long distance work (!). *g*


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Sep 29 21:06:52 2018 209.159.255.231)
DaddyCatALSO I'm not sure what you are asking. For recommendations or if you are looking at the right equipment?



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Sat Sep 29 18:32:26 2018 216.164.173.90)
Askign a favor of anyone who
knows alittle about electronics.
I've wanted to get an A/B switch
in HDMI connectors. I've seen
them at Best buy but they're over
$70. Have seen them on odd
websites for #$30. Just checked
out the Electronics page at Wal-
MArt .com It's just small
pcitures so i cna't get myahnds
on the box to check them out.
Theys eem to ahev them for $40,
over $40, and even one for about
$11.oo. Cna I get some advice,
please? Thanks ina dvance.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Sep 29 15:59:49 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today Saturday, September 29th 2018 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7) Birthdays!


HedraFromPittsburgh
Lurking Little Feet
Matsu Terwilliger
MissFaith
Queenie
Spike Fan
Witchy Tara

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to HedraFromPittsburgh, Lurking Little Feet
Matsu Terwilliger, MissFaith, Queenie, Spike Fan, Witchy Tara!



You turned evil a lot faster than I thought you would. Angel, 'Just Rewards (2)'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Sep 29 14:00:27 2018 209.159.255.231)
Good Morning beta!



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Dogmeat says:
(Sat Sep 29 08:57:00 2018 74.101.154.125)
Christian movies I liked 'Saved'
and 'Dogma'



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Ebdim9th says:
(Sat Sep 29 02:28:59 2018 174.235.156.213)
Edited: Sat Sep 29 03:10:49 2018
Hello Beta, Im back... and so are you... first Agents, then Infinity, now backward to Edward Norton doin the Hulk thing... I spy a white wings flitting by.....greetingz to you all everybody else too.....



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Sep 29 01:39:22 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Your observation on religious movies seems spot-on. Ben Hur and
The Ten Commandments came immediately to mind. I'd like to learn how
Williams addresses it.

I don't think a difference between $100 and $140 is that big if a mark-up.
Back in the 90's I recall a Wall Street Journal article that used the
price of cantaloupes to show how the many middle-men in Japan raised the
price of a final good. As I remember - very vaguely - a cantaloupe could go
for $60 (I found that hard to believe, but it's what comes to mind. *g*).

There's more involved in making a product that production or operations. I
recall seeing in several places that half the cost of bring a movie to
screen comes from marketing costs. Marketing involves more than sales or
distribution. In many cases marketing comes before the product. What's are
product? Who is our customer? Sometimes that's a chicken-and-egg question.

If you make a product, do you want to carry the whole burden of getting it
to market(s)? If you do not, then one or more entities do it and their price
will include their costs and their desired profit. It's usually not a scam.

Imagine I'm in the hand-tool business, both for professionals and amateurs
(DIY). Say I'm done some research and based on it believe there's a market
for my tools in Alaska. Key phrase is "some research". Do I really want to
invest in setting up retail stores and warehouses in Alaska? Very likely not
in the beginning. Best to learn about the business from people already based
in Alaska. I'll look for dealers who'll carry my stuff and see what happens.
Those dealers will buy wholesale and mark-up the price for their costs and
profit. Also considering the distance involved there'll be transportation
expenses above what it'd be in the continental US. No scam, just miles.


WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Sep 29 01:16:21 2018 209.159.255.231)
Edited: Sat Sep 29 01:19:13 2018
wolfguard *G* I wonder what Christian movies would fall under? Can 'religion' be a genre label?

I was reading an article, just a little while ago, that talked about the hypothetical costs of a hypothetical drug. From the research that created it to when an individual picks it up at the drug store. Everyone who basically handles the drug in some fashion tacks on a fee on top of the drug. Something that is listed as '$100, winds up costing $140. Seems like a lot of shady dealing on the part of a lot of companies.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Sep 28 23:52:41 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Professor Williams says ...

1. Comedy and Drama are types.

2. There are eleven "super-genre" which emerge from how audiences catalog
movies based on atmosphere, character, and story.

3. "Atmosphere" consist of elements such as setting, costumes, and props.

4. "Character" refers to stock characters associated with each super-genre.

5. "Story" - as I understood him means the themes or meanings associated
with each super-genre. I imagine for "Romance" one story or "the story" is
love always triumphs (and I imagine if love did not, then it's a different
super-genre).


Some of his students don't like the restrictions created by viewers'
expectations. Williams answers the great writers learn the expectations to
bend or break them. Sometimes it works and audiences cheer; sometimes not,
audiences jeer.

This may have been one reason Firefly's lifespan matched its namesake
- Joss blended two super-genres and not enough people appreciated it.

And then there's Dollhouse. Obviously (?) it's science fiction...

Atmosphere: planets, aliens, spaceships, .... Well maybe not "Golden Age" or
Space Opera. OTOH, it's in the ballpark of "Flowers for Algeron".

Atmosphere: White-coats, labs, brain manipulation

Characters: Mad scientists, human lab rats .....

Who was the character that was investigating the dollhouses? "Bladerunner"
is science fiction even though the protagonist was a cop. Off that, there
was "Outland" with Sean Connery ...

Atmosphere: A moon of Jupiter, company town, spaceships and shotguns.

Character: miners, gun-slingers, sheriff

Story: Underdog? One man stand against injustice?

Very western.


Here I am, type-type-type. *G*



What is genre is BtVS?




WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Sep 28 23:45:55 2018 209.159.255.231)
Beta is back...thanks Phoenix!



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white wings says:
(Fri Sep 28 21:08:32 2018 70.112.135.184)
Beta not go boom. Whew!

*flit*



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ChrisotpherMarlowe says:
(Fri Sep 28 03:17:52 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard That does all sound fascinating! Categorizing help with discussion as well. The movie 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' would be Fantasy I would think, given that it deals with vampires. You can compare types of fantasy movies or talk about two vampire movies, like Buffy vs Lost Boys Vs Twilight.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Sep 28 02:14:24 2018 4.28.180.2)
Edited: Fri Sep 28 02:27:22 2018
Christopher Marlowe,

Williams uses macro-genre and micro-genre to provide more boxes for each
super-genre. For instance the Crime macro-genre includes such stories about
cops, detectives, gangsters, heists, etc. He notes one way of separating
crime stories is by who the viewer roots for, e.g. the cop or the crook.

Micro-genres further break-down the story types of the macro-genre. For
instance the macro-genre of heist's micro-genre include (1) procedure, (2)
impossible, (3) tale.

The micro-genre for detective (one of the macro-genre of Crime) include
hard-boiled and pulp. In the hard-boil micro-genre it's the detective who is
cynical, harden, etc. In pulp (detective) fiction it's the whole world.

Superheroes are a macro-genre for one of the super-genre (action? thriller?
fantasy? I don't remember). Williams says super-hero stories are one of
three kinds: origin, personal battle, or save the world.

I'm doing this off memory so I'm probably doing some disservice to his
worldview. In the course he refers to his book, Screenwriter's
Taxonomy
. I've looked at the contents on the book's Amazon page - a lot
of detailed categorizing.

Some may find categorizing for stamp and butterfly collectors, but any such
system rides on a set of questions and such questions often come from deep
study and thinking about their answers can be useful for writers.



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Sep 28 02:04:41 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

~ Anything interesting? ~

I watched a lecture by Professor Eric Williams on movie genres.1

He claimed there are only eleven "super" genres. They have been defined by
viewers' expectations of atmosphere, character, and story. The super-genres
are ...

War / Horror / Sports / Western / Fantasy / Science Fiction / Romance /
Action / Crime / Thriller / Life2

Again he stresses he's not dictating this to be the way we should categorize
genres, but that viewers expectations associated with atmosphere, character,
and story result in the eleven types.

As I understood the professor he uses 'story' to mean theme or lesson. For
instance, if the story says 'war is hell' then viewers will see that as a
war movie.

He further divides genres into macro- and micro-. More on these in next
posts.


1 A lecture from his course, "How to View and Appreciate Great
Movies" one of the "Great Courses" offerings (aka or once known as "The
Teaching Company").

2 This genre has two forms, "A Day-in-the-Life" and "Slice of
Life". He believes Twelve Years a Slave is in the Life genre.



WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Sep 28 01:46:19 2018 209.159.255.231)
Anyone hereabouts besides me?



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Sep 27 23:50:22 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Fashion
Question: What anima does the fiber cashmere come from?
Answer: Goats

Trivia Masters: Agent Cooper and NotsoShyGirl!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu Sep 27 19:26:51 2018 199.127.148.10)
"In the hills down the center of the Hunting Peninsula, simple hill folk raise both cashmere goats and alpacas, and their woven products are in great demand."



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Sep 27 18:34:56 2018 66.152.102.250)
Trivia Girl: Cashmere is of course the woven fur of Cashmeres, which are raised and herded in Kashmir by the Elders of the Gentle Race. The fur of the Cashmere is very soft, because the Kashmirian sun beats down upon their faces all day.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu Sep 27 14:37:12 2018 206.124.19.186)
Trivia Girl
Cashmere wool, usually simply known as cashmere, is a fiber obtained from cashmere goats and other types of goat. The word cashmere is an old spelling of Kashmir, the geographical region in India and north Pakistan.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Sep 27 12:46:21 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Fashion
Question: What anima does the fiber cashmere come from?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Sep 27 12:39:51 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today Thursday, September 27th 2018 C.E.

We have TWO (2) Birthdays!


Julie
Paks aka Paksenarrion

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Julie, Paksenarrion!



Dawn: Is that supposed to scare me? Spike: Little tremble wouldn't hurt. 'Blood Ties'

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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Sep 27 12:29:33 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay irene adler!


Happy CD Thursday!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Thu Sep 27 12:26:11 2018 108.32.39.54)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for irene adler!

yay irene adler!


Happy CD Thursday!



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white wings says:
(Thu Sep 27 02:50:20 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay Phoenix - and thanks!

Happy Birthday AngelsAngel, RJ, and Solo Arminius!

R.I.P. Algerina

Trivia Girl - Adam Baldwin. I'm sure it was just autocorrect.

Christopher Marlowe - It's 70.3F outside!!! After perpetual summer, it's
nice to have the first serious front with a slight level of coolth in it.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Sep 27 01:44:01 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Run across anything interesting today?



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Trivai Girl says:
(Thu Sep 27 00:18:39 2018 209.159.255.231)
Agent Cooper No credit for vagueness this time!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Sep 26 23:25:47 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What actor from Serenity joined the cast of Angel?
Answer: I was going for Alan Baldwin, but Gina Torres works too!

So even when notsoShygirl is wrong, she is also RIGHT!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Sep 26 23:14:22 2018 209.159.255.231)
home!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Sep 26 19:03:13 2018 66.152.102.250)
Trivia Girl: That one guy, who was on that other show. I think he was on Buffy too. You know who I mean! Amiright?



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Sep 26 18:15:20 2018 71.56.125.67)
?!?!??!



https://www.bbc.com/news/video_and_audio/must_see/45642186/paradise-wildlife-
park-s-snow-leopard-surprised-at-new-camera



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Sep 26 18:05:15 2018 71.56.125.67)
How long would Connor have survived in Firefly's verse?

WG



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Wed Sep 26 15:06:32 2018 206.124.19.175)
Trivia Girl
Gina Torres



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Wed Sep 26 13:07:14 2018 108.32.39.54)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for phoenix!

yay phoenix!

today's deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

sunnydale candy - an excellent bite

chewy, crunchy, or strictly chocolate... what are the scoobies favorite Halloween candies?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Sep 26 12:45:20 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: What actor from Serenity joined the cast of Angel?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Sep 26 12:27:00 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today Wednesday, September 26th 2018 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Algerina - RIP

AngelsAngel
RJ
Solo Arminius

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to AngelsAngel, RJ, Solo Arminius!



One of you is gonna fall and die, and I'm not cleaning it up! Mal, 'War Stories''

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Sep 26 12:20:48 2018 209.159.255.231)
Good morning beta!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Sep 26 09:44:29 2018 71.56.125.67)
Yay Glow Boy!


Christopher Marlowe,

At the beginning, of course. *g*


Watch The Killer in Me and realized Joss and Marti used two
potentials without using the two actors. Giles is preparing to take the
potentials out into the desert on the quest vision thing. Before leaving
he's talking with Buffy when Xander walks in the front door saying he'd
better get out to the car. Next Dawn walks in saying Rona and Molly are
arguing over who is going to drive (off this Buffy tells Giles, makes you
wish you'd renewed your California license, doesn't it? (and that line can
be seen in retrospect to play into one sub-plot, but I skip it here)). Dawn
is followed by Anya who says, ~ Rona's driving. You need to get Molly out of
the trunk (boot!!).

We can 'see' the scuffle through the eyes of the scoobies, but we don't have
to see the actors. I'd bet the writer wrote the scene with the actors, but
Joss or Marti saw a way to save some money. Could be true. *g*



Deadguy Memorial Tuesday Question

Do slayers visit the doctor, dentist, etc.?

Yes, they do. Recall Buffy's stay at the hospital in second season's
Killed by Death?


Good Night to All

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Sep 26 04:42:07 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Where would you
start? *g*



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Sep 26 02:15:53 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

My first spin-off! *g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Sep 26 02:09:18 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard yeah. I don't think the Council has been really fully explored. I wouldn't mind a tv show like that.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Sep 26 01:22:13 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

In August of 2003, the remnants of the Council located in Maidstone, about
32 miles east of London. During this time Buffy and company worked with the
Council.

Later the Council created a three-headquarters organization. Each HQ would
be in a different place and in a different status. One would be operational,
another would be in stand-by, and the third would be in transit to a new
location.1 The idea was to avoid being decapitated as it had
almost been by the First's attack.

Further none of these HQ staid in the same place, but moved around the
world. Towards hiding this new mode of operation, the Council did operate an
impressive "headquarters" in London, but it was meant to be show-place, a
Wizard of Oz deception. "Meant", because over time some of the C-level
Council members settled-in, because the preferred roots in London over hop-
scotching around the world.

So today one can say, "London is the HQ of the Watchers Council", and be
more-or-less correct. Maybe.

1 UNCLE's nemesis, THRUSH, used such an organizational model.


WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Sep 26 00:07:12 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I was thinking of where the Watcher's Council USED to be located. I was late for work and I didn't think through my trivia question. *g* Otherwise, notsoShyGirl is usually right.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Sep 25 17:41:31 2018 71.56.125.67)
Trivia Girl,

The Watcher's Council is no longer located in London. In fact, the New
Watchers' Council took a lesson from T.H.R.U.S.H. so longer has its central HQ
(CHQ) located in one place for more than a season before moving. More later.

WG



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Sep 25 14:18:32 2018 206.124.19.186)
Trivia Girl
Great Britain, with offices in Munich, Switzerland, Rome and Melbourne



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Sep 25 12:45:07 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: Where is the HQ of the Watcher's Council located?


Yay Glow Boy!

deadguy qod Given that Buffy has healing powers, I don't think they need to see docs.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Sep 25 12:37:17 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today Tuesday, September 25th 2018 C.E.

We have FOUR (4) Birthdays!


Caged Rage
John
Legal_Lurker
Myslayre

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Caged Rage, John, Legal Lurker, Myslayre!



Dear Diary, Today I was pompous and my sister was crazy.' 'Today, we were kidnapped by hill folk never to be seen again. It was the best day ever.' Jayne, 'Safe''

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lostinamerica says:
(Tue Sep 25 12:21:27 2018 73.58.128.92)
Happy Belated Birthday + Blessed
Be +!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Tue Sep 25 12:18:52 2018 108.32.39.54)
Edited: Tue Sep 25 12:19:59 2018
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for glow boy

yay glow boy!

today's deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

sunnydale hospital - magical health care

do slayers visit the doctor, dentist, etc.?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Sep 25 03:00:08 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard Just the other day, I was reading about a story about how a video was 'faked' and made to look real. There was a story in India about how a video went viral showing two men kidnapping children. The video originally was a PSA by the government to raise awareness of Human Trafficking, but instead cause hyperawareness and led to some suspected traffickers being killed by mobs.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Sep 25 02:41:30 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

"China's Surveillance State Should Scare Everyone", The Atlantic


https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/02/china-
surveillance/552203/



WG



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Sep 25 02:26:49 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Scary stuff. Have you heard about the Chinese government's system for
monitoring, rating, and shaping Chinese citizens' behaviors using the digital
technologies? What of the missing Chinese actress, Fan Bingbing? I understood
her rating dropped to zero around the time she was last seen.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Sep 25 00:39:03 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard, Agent Cooper I did watch that video., How they determined when/where/who of the killings was interesting, and it appears that the men were actually arrested.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Sep 24 23:26:02 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Cartoons
Question: Morocco Mole was the sidekick of what superhero character?
Answer: Secret Squirrel

Trivia spies: notsoShyGirl



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Sep 24 20:38:37 2018 4.28.180.2)
Agent Cooper,

The video does not show the killings, though it does show victims being lead
by the soldiers to where they will be killed. BBC shows the ways they went
about determining time, place, and identities given the audio-video of the
incident.

Location: The environment is typical of much of the Sahel which is the
transition area between the Sahara in the north and the tropics in the
south. The video shows a mountain ridgeline. BBC began by scanning the
ridgelines in the area where the incident was said to have happened.
1 Some listeners / watchers who knew the area suggested areas to
focus on. BBC was able to pinpoint a village and used satellite photos to
verify it was the correct village (buildings, roads, paths, etc.).

Time: By comparing changes in what was seen on satellite photos over time,
BBC was able to bracket the incident, i.e. it could not have happened before
time X or after time Y. Next, BBC used the soliders' shadows as a moving
sundials to narrow the range.

Identities: Some of the firearms were the type used by Cameroon military.
2 The Cameroon government argued the soliders were wearing the
wrong type of uniform (jungle design rather than desert design), but BBC
found photos and/or videos showing other Cameroon troops in the area wearing
the jungle-design

More useful, the audio has some of the soldiers' names called by name and
BBC was able to match the names to specific individuals in the area. (As I
recall, there may have been some people who identified some of the soldiers
on the video).

Originally, the Cameroon government denied its soldiers were involved and
called the BBC report and/or video "Fake News". The Cameroon government has
since charged a number of their soldiers with the killings.


1 Northern Cameroon.

2 These were AK's. Since this is the most prolific assault rifle
in the world - firearm in the world? - one could argue, ~ everyone uses
these weapons. However, the AK is made by many companies and comes in many
forms and to the trained eye it might be possible to say Cameroon tends to
use this model rather than that model.



WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Sep 24 19:44:53 2018 66.152.102.250)
Wolfguard: OK, THAT was a jarring transition. I'm passing on that link, don't want to see any horrific killings today. Maybe later in the week, depending on how whup goes. :-)

But I get the idea. I'm all for making the kids use their heads a bit. But this is 6th Grade Math. We're just trying to teach some basic LCM skills here. I don't think it's necessary to make it into an exercise in deductive reasoning. :-)



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Sep 24 18:19:27 2018 71.56.125.67)
Agent Cooper,

Sometimes the "real world" doesn't give you clear and complete information.
*g*

OTOH, follows a link to a BBC article on a killing that happened in Cameroon.
There is a video and a warning about it being graphic (but the killings are
not shown). At first the government of Cameroon denied it happened on their
territory. The BBC then went to work using the captured video to pin-point the
place, the time range, and the possible identities of three of the killers.


https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-africa-45599973/cameroon-atrocity-finding-
the-soldiers-who-killed-this-woman



WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Sep 24 16:57:37 2018 66.152.102.250)
Lostinamerica/Wolfguard/White Wings/Maverick - RE Math Problem.

So yes, the answer that was expected was to find the lowest common denominator for the three numbers - IE Wolfguard got it right. We got the gist of it after googling, and then solved the math.

But I stand by my claim that the problem is worded ambiguously at best. For instance, it doesn't state how teacher friends the baker has, which would really dictate how many containers we need. It also does not tell you how many cookies each container can hold. Etc. In other words the problem is missing alot of the details that - in the real world - you would have to know to solve this.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Sep 24 14:08:45 2018 206.124.19.175)
Trivia Girl
Secret Squirrel



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Sep 24 12:43:24 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Cartoons
Question: Morocco Mole was the sidekick of what superhero character?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Sep 24 12:33:35 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today Monday, September 24th 2018 C.E.

We have FIVE (5) Birthdays!


Buffster Dulux
Claddagh
Little Sister
slay_me
+Blessed Be+

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Buffster, Dulux, Claddagh, Little Sister, slay_me, Blessed Be!



Willow: That's a work ethic! Buffy, you're developing a work ethic! Buffy: Do they make an ointment for that? 'Real Me'

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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Sep 24 12:27:52 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay halfrek!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Mon Sep 24 11:55:44 2018 73.58.128.92)
Yay! halfrek!


Happy Belated Birthday DeAn!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Sep 24 11:18:15 2018 100.6.46.90)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for halfrek!

yay halfrek!


Goodbye Blue Monday!



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white wings says:
(Mon Sep 24 03:55:52 2018 70.112.135.184)
Christopher Marlowe - Good for your couch! I finally gave up even on
recliners and had to retire to bed for a couple of hours (all the hard sleeping
I did last night must have tired me out). *g*



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Mon Sep 24 03:18:18 2018 209.159.255.231)
white wings Luckily, my couch is very comfy!



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white wings says:
(Mon Sep 24 03:09:02 2018 70.112.135.184)
Happy Birthday andeeh, Angelik, AngelLover24-7, Caroline, DrkPoet101,
Evil makeup artist of Angel, Lissie, and Mt Sunrise!


Belated Happy Birthday DeAn

Christopher Marlowe - Happy Sunday. Sunday is a good day to sleep. *g*

Maverick - Google "30 oatmeal 48 chocolate chip". There are several
statements out there. One is actually coherent and states the number of friends,
and there's one that is the verbal mess that Agent Cooper was confronted
with, which presupposes that the number of friends equals however the cookies can
be divided as stated.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Sep 23 18:40:37 2018 209.159.255.231)
Mid Day drive by!!!

Happy Sunday everyone!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Sep 23 12:55:47 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today Sunday, September 23rd 2018 C.E.

We have EIGHT (8) Birthdays!


andeeh
Angelik
AngelLover24-7
Caroline
DrkPoet101
Evil makeup artist of Angel
Lissie
Mt Sunrise

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to andeeh, Angelik, AngelLover24-7, Caroline
DrkPoet101, Evil makeup artist of Angel, Lissie, Mt Sunrise!



Am I supposed to be changing my clothes a lot? Is that the helpful thing to do?
Anya, 'The Body''


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Maverick says:
(Sun Sep 23 02:25:44 2018 68.51.139.52)
Agent Cooper: Ahhh, another English comprehension problem disguised as a Math problem. So, what's their idea of the solution to the problem? I DID put Some effort into thinking about this problem so I would like to learn something about it, even if what I learn is that they no speaka da English too good. After all, I DO have a B.S. in Mathematics from Pitt, so what's their expected answer? At least I can, in my mind, rewrite the problem so everyone (and his brother) can know what's expected of a valid answer. Come on, spill the beans (or provide a link to the online answers.)


Birthday Happies to DeAn


Maverick


I Have Dreamed




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Sep 22 23:54:18 2018 209.159.255.231)
Finally, the end of the week is here!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Sep 22 14:43:26 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today Saturday, September
22nd 2018 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


Buffanatic2002
Carol
cassandra
DeAn
Jendiver
Medalion

Happy Birthday from the Bronze,
to Buffanatic2002, Carol,
cassandra, DeAn
Jendiver, Medalion!



Pretty cool except for the
part where I was really terrified
and now my knees are all dizzy.
Willow, 'Listening to Fear''


to be added to the birthday list,
please email
oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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lostinamerica says:
(Sat Sep 22 13:18:59 2018 174.195.129.180)
Agent Cooper--No where in
the question does it state ALL the
cookies need to be used, so she can
divide them any way she wants and
eat the rest herself :)

Fight the machine!



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Sep 22 06:17:04 2018 71.56.125.67)
Edited: Sat Sep 22 06:18:05 2018
XANDER
(to Dawn)
You're not special (beat) You're extraordinary.


From Potential


Great episode, though Buffy's speech and commentary are uneven. Kennedy shines
both as the only potential who will run towards a fight and the one among the
potentials who turned the conversation to Amanda's solo slaying.

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Sat Sep 22 02:53:18 2018 100.4.217.136)
Thanks for the input folks. I actually had to cheat
and find the answer online. It makes sense once
you realize what is expected but still I think the
problem is worded ambiguously at best.



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Sep 22 02:26:19 2018 4.28.180.2)
Edited: Sat Sep 22 02:27:43 2018
Agent Cooper,

OTOH

I just re-read the problem and I believe I misunderstood what was asked.
Here's part of the problem with the key words underlined ...

"... so that each container has the same number of each kind of
cookie
..."


I take this to mean each container is to have both types of cookies. Given
this and the constraints noted in my previous post, I now change my answer.

New Answer: 6 containers

Each container will have 12 chocolate chip cookies and 5 oatmeal cookies.

Do you wish the reasoning behind this answer?


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Sep 22 01:58:21 2018 4.28.180.2)
Agent Cooper,

My answer: 17 containers


From the stated problem ...

"She wants to divide the cookies into identical containers so that each
container has the same number of each kind of cookie...
"


30 oatmeal cookies

48 chocolate chip cookies


We need the same number, so I first factored each number:

30 = 5 x 3 x 2

48 = 4 x 3 x 2 x 2


The numbers 3 and 2 are common to both, but the problem goes on to say...

"...she wants each container to have the greatest number of cookies
possible
"

The greatest number common to both 30 and 48 is (3 x 2) which is 6.


So you would need 5 containers of 6 cookies each for the oatmeal and 12
containers of 6 cookies each for the chocolate chip.

Added together, 5 containers + 12 containers = 17 containers.



WG



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white wings says:
(Sat Sep 22 01:55:01 2018 70.112.135.184)
Edited: Sat Sep 22 01:56:26 2018
Yay greengirl!

Happy Birthday B.Lady, Lealu, Lord of the Dance, Lurking Holtfa, Spikey, and Wise Ones!


Christopher Marlowe - Job interview? For you? For someone else? Hmmm.


Agent Cooper - Could that be the New Math, where there doesn't need to be an answer as long as the victim student presents a worksheet showing that s/he thought about it and maybe even tried to come up with an answer?

How many people does she want to feed? What is meant by "teacher friends"? Friends who are teachers? Or in this sad day of no grammar and no proofreading, is it "teachers and friends", or possibly "friends of her teacher"? Is each person to have a container, or can some go without? Is each container to have equal numbers of oatmeal and chocolate chip cookies, or is each container to have the same number of oatmeal as every other and the same number of chocolate chip as every other, but there can be a different number of oI atmeal and chocolate chip? Can there be cookies left over for her to eat? Is the verbiage present to give a pretense of real world application, while the goal is to simply divvy up the cookies equally? While I note that 30 and 48 can both be divided by 2,3, and 6, I think Kiara should put them all in one box and let the "teacher friends" get what they want.

The most important thing about it is that I do not have to expend anything but idle curiosity on the mess.

ETA: Maverick and I did not share notes. *g*



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Maverick says:
(Sat Sep 22 01:25:40 2018 68.51.139.52)
Agent Cooper: A possible answer is 6, but there IS something missing (confusing) in the word problem, so this may be the wrong answer. How many "teacher friends" does she have, and is it important that EACH gets a container with cookies in them? When they specify that each container have the same number of each cookie, do they mean that each container should have the same number of oatmeal cookies as chocolate chip cookies? Or do they mean that each container should have the same number of oatmeal cookies as every other container and the same number of chocolate chip cookies as every other container? The problem with being the student, however, is that you not question the teacher and point out their irrationalities. If you get the wrong answer, you CAN then say, "I thought you meant . . ."


Wolfguard: Muslims did not become the dominant religion in the country (Egypt, Turkey, others) by letting people slide indefinitely. The thing is, however, that as their numbers increase in the population, the more dogmatic they can become. They do not assimilate. Famously the young girls who want to rebel from the strictures of Islam are "honor-killed" by their families. Muslims do not believe that there is some "good works" or "belief" path to heaven; the only way to be assured of going to heaven is to die in the act of defending (or enforcing) their faith. The problem, though, is that, just like black on black crime, many of these internal Muslim acts of violence are not reported.


Maverick


Beginnings




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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Sep 21 23:55:14 2018 209.159.255.231)
Another busy day and night. Testing in the morning, job interview in the afternoon and a different kind of interview at 5 pm!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Sep 21 23:08:52 2018 100.4.217.136)
OK, my daughter just brought some math problems home. As far as I can tell they have no answers. I think something is missing. Here's an example:

"Kiara Baked 30 oatmeal cookies and 48 chocolate chip cookies to package in plastic containers for her teacher friends at school. She wants to divide the cookies into identical containers so that each container has the same number of each kind of cookie. If she wants each container to have the greatest number of cookies possible, how many plastic containers does she need?"

I've been staring at this for a while. I don't think there's an answer. How can there be a right answer when there is no way of knowing how many cookies fit into each container, or how many containers are needed?

Am I crazy?



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Sep 21 23:00:13 2018 4.28.180.2)
Maverick,

Several years ago there was a similar story from the Netherlands. Many
Muslims like to name their sons after the Prophet ... or perhaps they have
little imagination? *g* I wonder how many people who are
Hispanic1 named their sons Jesus? I wonder how many parents of
recent newborn sons named them "Donald"? Off that, I wonder how many boys
were named "Obama" during his administration?

A few weeks ago when you were posting on the ~Muslim Threat~, I googled
numbers, conversion rates, and the like. Didn't post at the time, because I
kept meaning to donwload a browser that would let me do proper links. Still
haven't got around to it. But off my memory ...

Currently there are more Christians in the world than Muslims, but sometime
in the mid-century they two groups will be near equal in number and
thereafter the Muslims will increase in number over Christians. Population
forecasts have an advantage in demographic inertia, but the human factor can
always load the dice so these numbers may not play out.

Another site said something like 20-25% of the Muslims in the US had, for
various reasons, left Islam. Based on your past statements we should have
seen a bloodbath as these apostates were killed. I believe the reason this
reality is different from your belief is because these former Muslims live
in America.2


1 I was going to comment on Hispanic as an identifier, but
realized it would be too long for a footnote. *g*

2 The article mention many of these American-Muslims (my label)
had fled Iran after the Shah's fall. Probably a major reason they fled was
they realized their beliefs or inclinations would not fare well under the
new Islamic Republic. To me, your view of Islam misses the details of Islam
and the dynamics of how worldviews can change.



WG



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Maverick says:
(Fri Sep 21 22:29:11 2018 68.51.139.52)
Trivia Girl: I may date myself but I remember Florence Chadwick, the American, who was the first woman to swim the English Channel both ways.


Wolfguard: Muhammad and its variations is the most popular male baby name in England and Wales for the 6th year running.


Maverick


Till I Hear It From You




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Agent Cooper says:
(Fri Sep 21 16:24:49 2018 66.152.102.250)
5pm can't come fast enough today!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Fri Sep 21 14:17:59 2018 199.127.148.4)
Sorry about that.



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Sep 21 13:46:02 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today Sunday, September 3rd 2018 C.E.

We have SIX (6) Birthdays!


B.Lady
Lealu
Lurking Holtfa
Lord of the Dance
Spikey
Wise_ones

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to B.Lady, Lealu, Lord of the Dance, Lurking Holtfa, Spikey, Wise Ones!



Mal: You were dead! Tracy: Hunh? Oh. Right. Suppose I was. Hey there, Zoe.
'The Message''


to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Sep 21 13:07:47 2018 209.159.255.231)
yay greengirl!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Fri Sep 21 10:38:04 2018 73.58.128.92)
Yay! greengirl!



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Fri Sep 21 10:20:55 2018 100.6.46.90)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for greengirl!

yay greengirl!


Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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white wings says:
(Fri Sep 21 03:20:52 2018 70.112.135.184)
Happy Birthday AngelUK, B'naa, cymru_lover, devil, faithdust, jessanne, Jocor, Krow, Lexie, Samantha, SpikeMe, The Angel E, and Tralfamadore2001!

Ebdim9th - Congratulations on your progress!

wolfguard - Ahh, generator. That requires a little more effort to have available.

Agent Cooper - You certainly made the choices very clear. ;-)

Christopher Marlowe - I hope you get your head above water soon. *g*



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Sep 21 02:00:21 2018 209.159.255.231)
Agent Cooper I'll have more
normal hours next week, so I should
be a more consistent face then.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri Sep 21 00:27:39 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: Who played Numfar?
answer: Joss whedon

Trivia Dancing the Dance of Victory! Agent Cooper and notsoShyGirl!



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Sep 20 20:56:10 2018 73.58.128.92)
Agent Cooper--That's good,
much better song. . .

"WTH Boris, he LIKES it!"



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu Sep 20 19:26:08 2018 199.127.148.10)
Just found out Wikipedia there was a Nero Wolfe series planned in the late 50s starring Kurt Kasznar with William Shatner as Archie Goodwin, sigh. It didn't sell because the pilot was too good for a half-hour show but there was no available hour slot on cBS for it.

More to t eh point of our presence here, I'm wondering on whom I should include if I e ver fic any of the events around Buffy & Angel 's wedding in my main ficverse, who should be there. I first visualized this before I had actually seen S-7 or S4/5 of *angel*.
The wedding party accounts for Willow & Wesley, Giles & Jenny, Dawn & Connor, Tara & Gunn, Anya and Lorne, Xander and Cordelia, and Oz and Fred. Faith sir d definitely attending; her boyfriend Doug is bsuy working ona case he's prosecuting so she brings Xander's cousin Lee, whose wife is attending a family function at which her human husband isn't very welcome.
I'm not sure about Harmony and Jonathan, who a re already an item by then.
Andrew of course sings a song at the wedding and Spike s hwos up at the reception. But who really ought to be there that I'm missing?



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Sep 20 16:55:02 2018 66.152.102.250)
And now it's not Year of the Cat playing on my youtube list...it's MANDY!

Ohhhh Mannndddyyy!!!!!!!!!!

Heh.



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Sep 20 16:38:04 2018 66.152.102.250)
Trivia Girl: Joss!

Hey, I actually KNEW that one. Seriously! For reals!



Notsoshygirl stop looking at me like that...



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu Sep 20 15:07:51 2018 206.124.19.175)
Trivia Girl
Joss Whedon



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Sep 20 12:46:03 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Angel
Question: Who played Numfar?



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Sep 20 12:45:30 2018 66.152.102.250)
Chris Marlowe: You need to decide what's more important. Real life activities and relationships that affect actual people and further your personal and professional goals, OR a loosely affiliated group of semi-imaginary strangers on a posting board focusing on a TV show that stopped airing 20 years ago.

Personally, I think the choice is pretty clear.

So when can you get back to posting regularly?

:-)

CC- White Wings



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Sep 20 12:40:27 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today Thursday, September 20th 2018 C.E.

We have THIRETEEN(13) Birthdays!


AngelUK
B'naa
cymru_lover
devil
faithdust
jessanne
Jocor
Krow
Lexie
samantha
SpikeMe
The Angel E
Tralfamadore2001

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to AngelUK, B'naa, cymru_lover, devil
faithdust, jessanne, Jocor, Krow, Lexie, samantha, SpikeMe, The Angel E
Tralfamadore2001!



Wash: Were I unwed, I would take you in a manly fashion. Kaylee: 'Cause I'm pretty? Wash: 'Cause you're pretty. 'Heart Of Gold'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Sep 20 12:29:31 2018 209.159.255.231)
Agent Cooper Yes I know! No help for it at the moment thought, but things should be better posting-wise, next week!



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Sep 20 06:17:10 2018 71.56.125.67)
Yay Leather Jacket!!


Lostinamerica,

I don't remember making such a comparison, so will have to go back and look
through my posts.


White Wings,

I think he has a small-generator or two. Tuesday power was restored to his
business. He texted he was going to buy an uber-generator for the business and
home.


Good Night to All

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Sep 20 03:53:48 2018 4.28.180.2)
Lostinamerica & White Wings,

Replies in an hour or so. :(


Ersatz Trivia Girl,

DaddyCatASLSO

Question 1: Full credit

Question 2: Half credit (90+% of the Chinese population live to the east of
the Hu line on about 36% of the land)

Question 3: 1/40th of a point (and I'm being nice *g*)

Sasaetsurikomiashi is a specific Judo throw. Once upon a time, Judo had 40
throws organized into five series of 8 throws.1 There are now
more throws, but I do not know how many or how they are now organized.

1 Judo's repertoire also consist of groundwork: pins, chokes, and
joint-locks.



WG



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Ebdim9th says:
(Thu Sep 20 03:39:53 2018 174.235.153.215)

Yayy Leather Jacket yayy!



and greetings to the rest of you all everybody! Im up to season four of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and catching up, watched Captain America: Winter Soldier before that....



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white wings says:
(Thu Sep 20 03:37:48 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay Leather Jacket!

Happy Birthday amberlynne, Angelicsoul, Carebear, CharlieX, chiquens, Falco, Gryphon, and SlayerGirl!

Dianne - *waves*

lostinamerica - We can certainly agree that wolfguard's brother shouldn't do it again. Next time there might be a 20' storm surge, which I understand will not only sweep raised houses off their stilts, but also wash away the foundations they stand on. When I watch the house hunter shows, I think I've only seen one where the people were deeply concerned about their proposed house being hurricane-proof, but they wanted to be sure that it would be standing when they came back. But I suspect that harassing wolfguard about it won't cut much ice with his brother. *g*

wolfguard - A question? With power going off and on, and mostly off, how did your brother keep his cell phone powered? How do people in general manage? Rationing use, battery chargers, solar chargers, all of the before? I've never had to deal with it, and I'm curious.

Agent Cooper - Christopher Marlowe's workaholic tendencies do seem to be getting worse. *g*



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Dianne says:
(Thu Sep 20 01:51:57 2018 98.66.210.156)
Yay! Leather Jacket!



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Sep 20 01:12:57 2018 73.58.128.92)
wolguard--What was your
intention in your post comparing
deaths from Florence to those on a
single day on a particular beach?
Because whether you're the only
one, or one of many, when you're
dead, you're dead.

I'm glad to hear your brother came
out OK. Now tell him not to do it
again.

cc white wings


Comma--I wish Shaker
Village wasn't so far away :(


Yay! Leather Jacket!


Happy Belated Birthday
DeMoriel
and Jaan Quidam!



Belated Yay! Foot Tapper
and Closet Buffyholic!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Wed Sep 19 20:33:01 2018 66.152.102.250)
Chris Marlowe - This whole having a real life is starting to have a negative effect on your responsibilities here at the Bronze. I think you need to take a step back and prioritize.



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Wed Sep 19 19:18:06 2018 199.127.148.4)
wolfguard
1-Plato.

2- A demo-geographic line in china separating the larger sparsely inhabited area West from the thickly populated East.

3- The "forty throws" of Judo schools.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Sep 19 18:25:15 2018 71.56.125.67)
Ersatz Trivia Girl

Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit


Category 1: Authorship

Question 1: Who first wrote on "Atlantis"?


Category 2: Geography

Question 2: What is the "Hu Line"?


Category 3: Martial Arts

Question 3: What is 'Sasae-tsuri-komi-ashi"

Research hint: I used hyphens to make it easier to read. If you
google, you may have to remove the hyphens.




WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Wed Sep 19 14:24:35 2018 209.159.255.231)
No trivia today because I'll be offline from now until probably 10 pm tonight!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Wed Sep 19 13:46:22 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today Wednesday, September 19th 2018 C.E.

We have EIGHT (8) Birthdays!


amberlynne
Angelicsoul
Carebear
CharlieX
chiquens
Falco
Gryphon
SlayerGirl

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to amberlynne, Angelicsoul, Carebear
CharlieX, chiquens, Falco, Gryphon, SlayerGirl!



Bye, now. Have good sex., Kaylee, 'Jaynestown'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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YayOftheDay says:
(Wed Sep 19 13:34:59 2018 209.159.255.231)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for leather jacket!

yay leather jacket!

todays deadguy memorial angel wednesday question is brought to you by:

The Sunnydale Glee Club - We accept Sad and Bad people too!

What would be a good cheer for the Sunnydale Sports Teams?


Happy Non-Angel Wednesday!



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Sep 19 06:08:25 2018 71.56.125.67)
Christopher Marlowe,

You'll miss so much here. *g*

Watched Bring on the Night and watching Showtime. Anya wears
glasses! *g*

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Sep 19 03:53:14 2018 209.159.255.231)
Edited: Wed Sep 19 03:55:21 2018
wolfguard Thank you! I get paid ten cents a word, so I want to choose my words carefully. *g* I'm supposed to do a piece on the Black Hills Astronomy Society and a local observatory.

Just a heads up that I won't be around tomorrow night, an out of town trip to run a focus group at a university and dinner with a friend afterwards.



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white wings says:
(Wed Sep 19 03:36:32 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay Closet Buffyholic!

Happy Birthday GlassesNanny, Jaan Quidam, and SMGfan!

Christopher Marlowe - Have fun (and success) with the 800 words!

I'm unusually sleepy tonight. I think I'll have to go deal with that.



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wolfguard says:
(Wed Sep 19 01:23:07 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

Using 12-point font, double-spaced, one will average 250 words per page.
Single-space, 500 words. So depending on the spacing an 800 word piece will
run just under two to four pages.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Wed Sep 19 01:14:52 2018 209.159.255.231)
800 words, that's the number of words I need to write for my first paid gig as a writer.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Sep 18 23:24:47 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: What was Anya's name
before she became a Vengeance
Demon?
Answer: Aud

Trivia Oddities: notSoShyGirl, wolfguard, Agent Cooper!



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Tue Sep 18 23:18:18 2018 209.159.255.231)
home!



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Agent Cooper says:
(Tue Sep 18 20:40:11 2018 66.152.102.250)
Trivia Girl - Aud!



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Sep 18 18:19:13 2018 71.56.125.67)
Trivia Girl,

Aud Lang Syne, yes?

*g*



DaddyCatALSO,

Joss forgot?!

I think it's ridiculous.

LOL


WG



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Tue Sep 18 14:51:09 2018 206.124.19.175)
Trivia Girl
Aud



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Sep 18 12:42:53 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Buffy
Question: What was Anya's name
before she became a Vengeance
Demon?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Tue Sep 18 12:16:48 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today Tuesday, September 18th 2018 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


GlassesNanny
Jaan Quidam
SMGfan

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to GlassesNanny, Jaan Quidam, SMGfan!



The girl's not playing with a full deck, Giles. She has almost no deck. She has a three.
Buffy, 'Faith, Hope & Trick''


to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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YayofTheDay says:
(Tue Sep 18 12:08:53 2018 209.159.255.231)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for closet buffyholic

yay closet buffyholic!

todays deadguy memorial buffy tuesday question is brought to you by:

the sunnydale high alumni association

which of the sunnydale alums we have met are most likely to show up at a reunion?


Happy Non-Buffy Tuesday!



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Tue Sep 18 11:55:45 2018 199.127.148.10)
wolfguard I figured you would be, why is your being "hereabouts" an issue?

Joss first said he forgot the First had been Warren, then claimed Warren's heart had stopped before Amy r escued him.
I think it's ridiculous. To my mind, Warren was in a hell-dimension and, as can happen in things like D&D, he was sent back to do mischief.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Sep 18 08:12:37 2018 71.56.125.67)
Edited: Tue Sep 18 08:14:35 2018
White Wing,

It's true. I've been texting with my brother. His cell reception is on and
off, but it's his only source of outside information. There's no power and
no idea when power will be restored.

....

Just finished rewatching 7th season's Never Leave Me. Questions. The
First appears as Warren. The First could only appear in the form of a dead
person. Since Willow killed Warren in 6th season, there was nothing wrong
with having The First appear as Warren. But as I understand it in the comics
Warren survived. How then was the First able to appear as Warren?

Also in the episode Principal Woods buries Jonathan. I don't recall it
having been said what lead Woods to do it. Since the episode shows Spike
under the thrall of the First, perhaps the writers felt why not Woods? I
believe the writers might have needed to add a couple scenes and thought
having Woods bury Johnathan was cool and spooky so they wrote
it.



WG



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Trivia Girl says:
(Tue Sep 18 03:32:35 2018 209.159.255.231)
Apologies for the lateness...I worked a 10 hour shift and then attended a four hour council meeting.


Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: History
Question: Gertrude Ederle was the first woman to do what?
Answer: Swim the English Channel



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white wings says:
(Tue Sep 18 02:57:51 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay Foot Tapper!

Happy Birthday LB and Ana!

Cosmic Bob - Good to see you! I add my congratulations to Eliza.

wolfguard - I could never say that the Carolinas got "lucky", but at least the coastal areas did not also have to deal with Cat 5 winds and a 20+ foot storm surge, as was feared for a while. What has happened and will be happening has been horrible enough. The surge of volunteers, such as the Cajun Navy, has been heartwarming. It's never enough, but it's something.

NuPhalanx - The place is still here, and some of us wander in and out. It's comforting.



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wolfguard says:
(Tue Sep 18 01:25:35 2018 4.28.180.2)
NuPhalanx,

Thanks to Phoenix and a few diehards. *g* It's now more like one of
early 90's bulletin boards.

WG



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NuPhalanx says:
(Tue Sep 18 00:22:01 2018 99.34.138.39)
This place still exists? Neat.



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Sep 17 23:44:41 2018 4.28.180.2)
DaddyCatALSO,

I am still hereabouts. *g*

WG



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Mon Sep 17 19:22:14 2018 199.127.148.10)
Found out somebody as stilla round I didn't expect Forrest Compton (GOmer Pyle USMC, The Edge of Night) turned 89 yesterday.



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Sep 17 18:24:38 2018 71.56.125.67)
White Wings,

Thank you.


News items on "Florence" and its effects on North Carolina ...

Yesterday, Sunday, NC's Department of Transportation was telling drivers to
detour around North Carolina.

Today, NC authorities are telling North Carolinians not to be on the roads.
1

Authorities are warning people not to use GPS devices, because these devices
are not or cannot adjust quickly enough to reflect ground truth. Follow
detour signs and Highway Patrol directives.

It is not possible to get to towns and cities on the coast by road.
2

Some towns that are already flooded have more water coming later in the week
as rain flows into rivers and rivers flow to the coast.

The hurricane season is not over.


1 As of this afternoon 20 people are confirmed dead from the
effects of 'Florence'. One was a 1-yr old child who drown after his mother's
car was swept from the road by flood waters.


2 The interstate running north-south near the coast is I-95. In
places in NC I-95 is not really that near, because NC has a lot of inlets,
bays, sounds, and estuaries indenting the coast.




WG



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Mon Sep 17 14:24:49 2018 206.124.19.175)
Trivia Girl
Swim across the English Channel



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Cosmic Bob says:
(Mon Sep 17 12:47:00 2018 104.129.196.80)
Congratulations to Eliza.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Mon Sep 17 12:42:13 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: History
Question: Gertrude Ederle was the first woman to do what?



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Mon Sep 17 12:26:40 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today Monday, September 17th 2018 C.E.

We have TWO (2) Birthdays!


LB
Ana

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to LB, Ana!



Harmony: Somebody remembered to pick me up the sweetest unicorn. Guess someone was feeling guilty for standing me up in tenth grade. Brad: What? Had to get her something. She sired me. Peaches: Sire-whipped. 'Real Me''

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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YayOfTheDay says:
(Mon Sep 17 12:14:07 2018 209.159.255.231)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for foot tapper!

yay foot tapper!
Goodbye Blue Monday!



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white wings says:
(Mon Sep 17 02:02:50 2018 70.112.135.184)
Happy Birthday DeMoriel, minifan, and typical het boy!

wolfguard - The Boll Weevil statue is hilarious! I'm glad to have it
confirmed that your brother is OK to date. With luck the river flooding will
flow to the sea and find egress other ways than by going over barrier islands.

Comma - There are the Hutto hippos. Hutto has become a bedroom
community for Austin, but it has older roots. I have seen for myself that
there is a concrete hippo statue in almost every yard. I thought it was
because it was the high school mascot and shrugged it off. High school
football is big down here. But after you asked, I googled. There are three
origin stories, and any or all of them could be true. One is that in 1915 a
circus train stopped at the station in Hutto and a hippopotamus got loose and
went walkabout to a local creek for a while. Another is that some opposing
team saw the rather large Swedish and German farm boys they'd have to play and
was aghast and and wondered how they could play against such hippos. The
third is that the team had no uniforms in the early years so they wore flour
sack tops and the opposing coach said that they looked like hippos. Be that
as it may, the article said that there are 3000 hippo statues in Hutto, and
it's been going on since the 1920s, which I find quite impressive. Some are
painted and some are au naturelle.



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wolfguard says:
(Mon Sep 17 00:33:51 2018 71.56.125.67)
COMMA,

I only know about the Weevil. Came across it in an American economic history
book. As I recall, the Bo Weevil so destroyed the cotton crop that Enterprise
looked to diversifying their local economy. They were successful, but figured
they never would have tried had they not been forced to by the Bo Weevil.

WG



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Agent Cooper says:
(Mon Sep 17 00:01:06 2018 100.4.179.172)
Happy tonight cuz just registered for the local game con, and Daughter Cooper is coming with me for the first time. Should be fun!



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Comma says:
(Sun Sep 16 22:25:38 2018 75.143.154.113)
wolfguard: I know about Enterprise. I once stole that statue before we3, as in Dothan High School. played them. I am referring to statues, all over town, with a certain theme.

Comma



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sun Sep 16 20:43:45 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today Sunday, September 16th 2018 C.E.

We have THREE (3) Birthdays!


DeMoriel
minifan (alyssa)
typical het boy


Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to DeMoriel, minifan, typical het boy!



Zoe: Uh huh. River, honey? He's putting the hair away now. River: It'll still be there... waiting. 'Jaynestown'

to be added to the birthday list, please email oldbdeyes@hotmail.com



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Sep 16 16:20:14 2018 71.56.125.67)
Comma,

Google "Statue Boweevil". It's in Enterprise, Alabama.

WG



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Comma says:
(Sun Sep 16 12:57:41 2018 75.143.154.113)
I just saw where Bern, NC, has bear statues and some have wondered away in the flooding. I know that Dothan, AL has peanut statues, OK City has buffalo statues, and Cherokee, NC has real looking bear statues painted in different Native American themes, while advertising the owners. Do any of all know of any other towns/cities that have unique painted statues that show off the theme of the area?

Comma



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sun Sep 16 12:57:41 2018 209.159.255.231)
Good morning beta! Birthdays at
noon!



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wolfguard says:
(Sun Sep 16 07:21:23 2018 71.56.125.67)
White Wings,

He's weathered the surge, there's still heavy rain. The hurricane covered so
much area with heavy rain that it may be some places inland will receive
more damage than the coastal areas.



ANYA
I'd kill for him!

WILLOW
You'd kill for chocolate

...

ANYA
What are you going to do? Change him into a woman? (off Willow's YES!) Damn!

Him



WEBSTER
I'm here to kill you, not to judge you.

Conversations with Dead People



WG



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white wings says:
(Sun Sep 16 04:41:36 2018 70.112.135.184)
Happy Birthday Beth M, Calypso, E0win, Gothworld, Jennejenn, Loup-Garou, MrGellar, and shamelessly!


wolfguard - I would classify staying home to tend to home and business as "keeping the home fires burning", even if it's not the little woman doing it. But you could call it careful judgement or necessity if it pleases you, and I can't say you would be wrong. ;-) I gather that your brother has weathered the storm, since you've not said otherwise, and I see that people are being allowed back to the outer banks. That may depend on people's ability to get past the trees, sand, and sinkholes on the roads, of course.

Many years ago some hurricane was aiming for the Gulf Coast, maybe around Corpus Christi. It made it, for that matter. Anyway, a lot of people flew their private planes up to the airport in Austin to keep them safe. Austin didn't get the heavy rains or hurricane winds, but the hurricane spawned several tornadoes that hit in pretty much one place - the Austin private airport.

Dogmeat - *Flo* who? ;-)

Christopher Marlowe - We had rain off and on all day. Even after an unusually wet September, it hasn't lost its charms. Also, the Longhorns won a game, and it seemed as though they deserved it by being good. I feel hope that I haven't felt for a long time. There are several generations (in University terms) of students who have no idea what it feels like!



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Comma says:
(Sun Sep 16 00:02:05 2018 75.143.154.113)
lostinamerica: The Shaker Village is one of our favorite day trips. They have a farm weekend, once a year, that is great. Kids and adults learn a lot from it. The last time, that we were up there, there were four Shakers left alive. I think that all were living in Pennsylvania. I really hope that someone has taken the time to interview the remaining Shakers.

I took Monica on vacation last week. Davenport, IA, Harpers Ferry, IA where there is a Federal Park of effigy mounds, into Wisconsin and Minnesota, spent the night in Decorah, IA, where I got to see the grounds of the Decorah Eagles, on to visit our daughter in Perrysburg, OH, then back home. I got a glimpse of two of the Eagle juveniles, that I saw hatched this year, while at the fish hatchery in Decorah. Great trip. Back to D.C. next week.


I went out to Fort Campbell today and looked at the full airfields. There are military aircraft from northern Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, and southern Virginia. I also talked to some troops from Fort Bragg. It seems that Bragg has been mostly evacuated. The bad thing is, there are more storms out there!


I have seen convoys. of electric trucks, already heading east. I have not knowledge of how far east that they are allow to go now. Hats off to anyone heading into the area to help in anyway.


All have a good one.

Comma



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Sat Sep 15 22:37:05 2018 209.159.255.231)
I hope everyone had a good day!



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Dogmeat says:
(Sat Sep 15 21:59:26 2018 68.129.190.148)
white wing
*Flo*



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Sat Sep 15 14:17:34 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today Saturday, September 15th 2018 C.E.

We have EIGHT (8)) Birthdays!


Beth M
Calypso
E0win
Gothworld
Jennejenn
Loup-Garou
MrGellar
shamelessly

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Beth M, Calypso, E0win, Gothworld, Jennejenn
Loup-Garou, MrGellar, shamelessly!



Hands! Hands in new places! Willow, 'Doppelgangland'

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wolfguard says:
(Sat Sep 15 07:03:38 2018 71.56.125.67)
Yay Seniorslayer!


Belated Deadguy Memorial Angel Wednesday Question


If Giles were at a convention, who would he fanboy over meeting?

We would not recognize the name.


Belated Deadguy memorial Buffy Tuesday Question

Which of the Sunnydale alums we have met are most likely to show up at a
reunion?


The two girls who won Homecoming Queen in the scoobies senior year
(seeHomecoming) (5.3)



Good Night to All

WG



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Sep 15 06:47:02 2018 71.56.125.67)
Christopher Marlowe & White Wings

I just watched BtVS episode Help (7.4)

WILLOW
(to Buffy)
You could google her,

XANDER
Willow, she's a 17-year old girl!

WILLOW
It's a search engine.


(2002, 2002 *g*)



White Wings,

I don't think my brother staid as an act of bravado or to ~keep the fires
burning. I think he staid so when it's over he can immediately go assess the
damage to their business. If he had gone inland, then it may have been days,
if not weeks, before he'd been let back on the island. OTOH, twenty-odd
years ago, when facing his first hurricane near the coast, my father decided
to sit it out. Afterwards he said next time he'd go further inland. OTO-OH,
I recall one hurricane where some folks left the coast for Raleigh, about
100 miles inland. The hurricane hooked around the coastal towns and went
directly across Raleigh (you may have use a map to appreciate how this could
happen). *g*


WG



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white wings says:
(Sat Sep 15 05:21:02 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay seniorslayer!

Happy Birthday Diablo, grabodddream, Karisma, Joey Emma, Diablo, grabodddream, Karisma, Joey Emma, SlvrStar, St George, and Texaswook!


Christopher Marlowe - I'm glad you escaped from work.

The young whippersnappers of the current generation might have difficulty imagining a world without cell phones, but it seems to me that they could relate to Buffy in most other ways. Possibly I am too far away from them to judge accurately, but they are still people (however unlikely that might seem) and have the same emotions that made us relate. And I see that wolfguard beat me to that. *g*

wolfguard - Some of the men who evacuated their families and stayed behind to keep the home fires burning were contacted by the news. One said that it was the stupidest thing he'd ever done. He was a little worried that his wife would learn he had admitted it, as she had apparently not been in favor of his staying. His house was by a river, and he spent the night watching the water come up and wondering what would happen if it got up to the second story. Fortunately for him, the water went back down. Another sounded a little shaken as he described all the trees in his yard falling down, but he was buoyed up by having all the neighbors join together to help each other, even going out at the height of the storm. I hope he rethinks the wisdom of the activities, if not the community bonding. Fortunately no one was killed by flying debris.

During Ike, there were people on Galveston Island who were not fortunate. There's a fine line between careful judgement and necessity, being lucky and bravado. I tend to think it's better to run away and live another day, but it's very individual.



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wolfguard says:
(Sat Sep 15 02:11:37 2018 4.28.180.2)
Edited: Sat Sep 15 02:23:47 2018
Christopher Marlowe,

I believe so. Some of the pop culture will be missed, but the teen-age rites
of passage will probably remain true. Some writer or critic said the only
thing about a story that has to right is the emotional truth(s).


Lostinamerica,

The island lost its last pier - of part of it. The city of New Bern, around
45 minutes drive north from the island, has experienced major flooding. The
last news report on deaths attributed to "Florence" were five:

1) Mother and child killed in their home by a falling tree.

2) A person had a heart attack and died before first responders could arrive
with the delay being given as road conditions.

4) A person operating or trying to operate a generator.

5) A person went out to check on the dogs and was killed by something
related to the high wind.


For comparison, sometime last week three people drowned in a rip tide on a
single day at a single beach.

ETA I got the riptide story wrong. Just googled. The story was
reported by ABC on July 22nd (Sunday). It said on Saturday three people had
drown due to riptides. A 20-yr old man at Sunset Beach, a 40-yr old man at
Holden Beach, and a "swimmer" at Wrightsville Beach. The 40-yr old man was
trying to help another person having trouble (in the riptide?). The person
having trouble was saved.

Note: rip "tides" are caused by seawater draining back down the beach into
the sea. Sometimes seawater will get funneled into underwater mini-ravine or
channel which creates a relatively strong current flowing out to sea. This
current is the "riptide". People who get caught in it find themselves being
taken away from shore so they start trying to swim back, often against the
current. They usually find it doesn't work, they panic, try harder, wear
out, sometimes drown. What to do?

The riptide current is usually not that wide and often loses strength not
too far from shore. So the recommended action is to swim at right angles to
the current till you're out of it.




WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Sep 14 23:42:34 2018 209.159.255.231)
white wings Here I am!!!

wolfguard Can Buffy still resonate with young people these days?



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Sep 14 22:08:19 2018 209.159.255.231)
I have been called back to work!



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white wings says:
(Fri Sep 14 20:38:59 2018 70.112.135.184)
Who's there?



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Dogmeat says:
(Fri Sep 14 16:25:39 2018 68.129.190.148)
*knock knock*



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lostinamerica says:
(Fri Sep 14 12:32:11 2018 73.58.128.92)
Yay! seniorslayer!



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Fri Sep 14 12:24:07 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today Friday, September 14th 2018 C.E.

We have SEVEN (7) Birthdays!


Diablo
grabodddream
Karisma
Joey Emma
SlvrStar
st george
Texaswook

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to Diablo, grabodddream, Karisma,Joey Emma
SlvrStar, st george, Texaswook!



Pretty cool except for the part where I was really terrified and now my knees are all dizzy. Willow, 'Listening to Fear''''

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YayofTheDay says:
(Fri Sep 14 12:03:21 2018 209.159.255.231)
let's hear a great big bronze cheer for seniorslayer!

yay seniorslayer! Happy Thank Joss It's Friday!



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lostinamerica says:
(Fri Sep 14 10:39:44 2018 73.58.128.92)
wolfguard--I understand where he's coming from, but your life trumps home
or business. Even if you've successfully ridden out other hurricanes, this is a
completely different hurricane and you don't know what it will do.

Odds are he will be able to successfully ride out this one too. But somebody has
to be the one in a million, and I wouldn't want to be that somebody.

cc white wings, DaddyCatALSO



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white wings says:
(Fri Sep 14 03:30:35 2018 70.112.135.184)
wolfguard - The phenomenon of receding oceans in advance of tsunamis was well described in James Michener's Hawaii, as well.

Your brother isn't wrong about not being allowed back in. I hope his house is high and strong. Florence appears to have weakened somewhat (according to my wishes), but it also appears to be trying to emulate Harvey, which isn't nice. Fingers crossed and prayers, whichever works. Always good to have an anchor out to leeward.



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wolfguard says:
(Fri Sep 14 02:19:35 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

A hurricane always brings surge, rain, and high winds. There will usually be
tornadoes. What is not certain are the heights, amounts, speeds and duration.

WG



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Fri Sep 14 01:12:40 2018 209.159.255.231)
wolfguard I had heard those stories about the tsunamis too. It's good when information like that really saves lives. I can't see a similar thing happening for hurricanes, as each one is very different.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Fri Sep 14 00:03:13 2018 209.159.255.231)
unnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Sports
Question: What sportsman was known as the 'Golden Bear'?
Answer: Jack Nicklaus

Trivia Holes in One: notsoShyGirl!



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Maverick says:
(Thu Sep 13 23:25:18 2018 68.51.139.52)




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wolfguard says:
(Thu Sep 13 23:21:05 2018 4.28.180.2)
Reading an article on housing prices across the world.

"More than a third of London's population was born abroad. For Toronto, the
share is more than half..."

The Economist, "Housing Correction", August 11th 2018, p.61


WG



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Sep 13 20:51:47 2018 4.28.180.2)
Welcome back Agent Cooper


White Wings,

Thank you.


Lostinamerica,

I remember two similar stories on the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami. The first
was about a coastal community whose folklore included the warning ~ if the
ocean recedes, then run to high ground. When the ocean receded, they ran. I
believe only a handful of them died. The second story was of a young girl
who had recently learned about tsunamis in school. Her family was
vacationing in the area when the ocean receded. She yelled, ~ 'We have to
run up'. Her family heeded her.

Hurricanes don't have this 'signal'. OTOH, rising winds and waters can be
their own warning. Yesterday I caught part of the story about a group that
looks after wild horses native to the islands. The spokesperson said the
horses will gather in the maritime forests1 for shelter. She said
the wild horses are familial and territorial, but during such storms they
make a truce and tolerate each others' company.

My brother's business and home are on the island. I believe he and others
with similar ties are worried if they leave they may not be allowed back for
weeks. The counter-argument is if you're dead it won't matter. Another
explanation is personal history. Many of these folks have staid and survived
past storms and hurricanes, often after being warned to leave or risk death.
They look at their and the authorities' track records and trust the dice
will roll their way again.


1 As DaddyCatALSO noted, some of the barrier islands are
really narrow, but this is not true of all of them. Some will have a series
or dunes with meadows and even stunted forests in between and a marsh on the
landward side. That said, their widths are small compared to the waters
available to swamp them.


WG



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TheBirthdayGnomette says:
(Thu Sep 13 17:00:58 2018 209.159.255.231)
Today Thursday, September 13th, 2018 C.E.

We have TWO (2) Birthdays!


FOSman
Mintaka

Happy Birthday from the Bronze, to FOSman, Mintaka!



Zoe: She shot you. Mal: Well, yeah, she did a bit... still --'Serenity'

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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Sep 13 16:47:53 2018 66.152.102.250)
Trivia Girl: Spike!



Are their "inner banks?"



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Agent Cooper says:
(Thu Sep 13 15:00:24 2018 66.152.102.250)
Geez, what a rough week! Things looking up now I think. Hopefully.



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notsoShyGirl says:
(Thu Sep 13 14:32:50 2018 206.124.19.175)
Trivia Girl
Jack Nicklaus



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DaddyCatALSO says:
(Thu Sep 13 14:23:24 2018 199.127.148.4)
LostinamericaYes, I've been to the Outer Banks. As I recall, basically it's a two lane blacktop, then buildigns on either side, then each building has a "back yard" of beach, then that's it.



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Trivia Girl says:
(Thu Sep 13 13:56:18 2018 209.159.255.231)
Sunnydale's Trivial Pursuit

Category: Sports
Question: What sportsman was known as the 'Golden Bear'?



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Sep 13 12:48:58 2018 73.58.128.92)
wolfguard--OK, I just saw a
news report that area wildlife
officials have reported animals
moving to higher ground. I
distinctly remember this also
happening before the tsunami that
hit Thailand in the early 2000s.

All right, he's made his point,
now LEAVE!



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lostinamerica says:
(Thu Sep 13 12:35:46 2018 73.58.128.92)
DaddyCatALSO--This
particular community lasted over
100 years, so there's that. But
you're really asking people to
give up a lot to remain celibate
while there--basically it was a
group of nuns and monks living and
working together.


wolfguard--Tell your
brother to LEAVE NOW. He lives on
a barrier island--what does he
think that means? It means his
island is the first line of
defense for the mainland and the
first to be hit by the force of
the hurricane!

cc white wings


Belated Yay! Closet
Buffyholic!



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white wings says:
(Thu Sep 13 07:35:54 2018 70.112.135.184)
wolfguard - I hope your brother has changed his mind, but Im also hoping that the whole
system weakens, which might lessen the storm surge. I hope he suffers no harm.

The wildfires encroach on wilderness and civilization alike. ;-)



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Sep 13 06:16:34 2018 71.56.125.67)
Christopher Marlowe,

Well yours is a creative solution. *g*


White Wings,

Civilization has been encroaching on the wilderness. *g*

One of my brothers and his wife have a business on one of NC's barrier
islands. She and the kids headed inland a few days ago, but my brother was
going to stay on the island. Storm surge forecast 9 feet. I hoped he's changed
his mind. The surge kills more than the wind.


WG



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white wings says:
(Thu Sep 13 04:34:47 2018 70.112.135.184)
Yay Closet Buffyholic!

Happy Birthday andyourlittledogtoo, Annointed 1, Chrystal_Durnby, fire&ice, Kameko, Leila, Rose, Slayer_Spike, and Spacey!

wolfguard - It looks as though you are about to get a bit of rain.

It's true, a hurricane would not be a good analogue for a terrorist event. At least I certainly hope not. However, a fire should work. A number of the more recent fires have had human origin, possibly with malicious intent. Those are wildfires rather than city fires, which get squelched relatively quickly, but we are seeing more wildfires that encroach uncontrollably on civilization.

lostinamerica - I did not know that about the Shakers. Two left? Ah well, another piece of Americana going fast.

Christopher Marlowe - Gee, you are being unmolested by the weather at present. I hope you are able to enjoy the peace.



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ChristopherMarlowe says:
(Thu Sep 13 02:25:03 2018 209.159.255.231)
wofguard We can create one! Plrtz Glrb doesn't have any vowels...lets start there.

Pluritz Galrab, the first person to have opened a portal to other worlds! When folks attempted to pronounce his name, it came ut Plrtz Glrb.



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wolfguard says:
(Thu Sep 13 01:57:41 2018 4.28.180.2)
Christopher Marlowe,

I demand the backstory! *g*

WG


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